The Syndicate

Perhaps the best thing to do is be mindful not to use common mafia lingo such as baddie, civvie, etc. I wonder if there's any chance for clarification on what words are within the realm of possibility. I would naturally imagine that prepositions and articles would not be allowed to be chosen as the magic word, for example.

I hope today finds our lovely host much improved!

I'm glad that our tables are all full

Dilan Bluemoss wrote:Dilan Bluemoss would like to observe that the Google Translate method, in addition to being clumsy and cumbersome, will do little to prevent Rumpelstiltskin from carrying out his mandate, as he can simply select a frequently used morpheme from whatever dialect is being employed. Unpredictability is the key.

I disagree that this precludes foreign languages. We could easily choose one at the beginning of each day period, after he's sent his PM but before saying anything else that could make it work. However, it is possible that option would hinder discussion, which is a legitimate concern. I don't really see a no-risk option, as simply ignoring his power risks him potentially running lynches himself.

If only we had Little Orphan Annie Secret Decoder Rings...

I'm not sure how I feel about using foreign languages. But then again, that might just be my laziness speaking. If someone can find a language that filters fairly well through Google Translate or some other online translator, then I would be willing to try it.

I suspect our illustrious hosts will not look kindly upon any efforts to circumvent the little bugger's power in any case. I'm inclined to just play the cards we're dealt.

Dallon Redwarlock wrote:Perhaps the best thing to do is be mindful not to use common mafia lingo such as baddie, civvie, etc. I wonder if there's any chance for clarification on what words are within the realm of possibility. I would naturally imagine that prepositions and articles would not be allowed to be chosen as the magic word, for example.

I like this, as well as trying to stretch vocabulary; languages will be harder for people posting on phones, for instance, and translator drift is also a problem, nuance will be lost and sometimes nuance is very important.

Gobnait Gingeruite wrote:

Dilan Bluemoss wrote:Dilan Bluemoss would like to observe that the Google Translate method, in addition to being clumsy and cumbersome, will do little to prevent Rumpelstiltskin from carrying out his mandate, as he can simply select a frequently used morpheme from whatever dialect is being employed. Unpredictability is the key.

I disagree that this precludes foreign languages. We could easily choose one at the beginning of each day period, after he's sent his PM but before saying anything else that could make it work. However, it is possible that option would hinder discussion, which is a legitimate concern. I don't really see a no-risk option, as simply ignoring his power risks him potentially running lynches himself.

If only we had Little Orphan Annie Secret Decoder Rings...

That reminds me of, "A Christmas Story" I love that movie

The Purple Sea Elves have a question for our hosts that we believe is fair and not out of the bounds of reasonableness.

Is Rumplestilkskin allowed to choose a proper name, such as that of one of the players?

If the answer comes back in the affirmative or if no answer is given, I would recommend that we try to refrain from referring to each other directly by name whenever possible.

Very good question

Day 0

Which Table will you sit at?

You may select 1 option


Table of Love 6

Dierdre Wonderbird (5), Caillic Lustroushair (6), Miyuki Lovelymoth (8), Jorhan Poisondart (12), Gobnait Gingeruite (19), Dallon Redwarlock (21) Etain Royalskull (29)

Table of Happiness 10

Dilan Bluemoss (4), Grutfud Orangesprite (10), Fane Winebattle (14), Eurolyvn Blissfulone (15), Mainchin Ironbeast (20), Laine Crystalsteam (22), Anchorete Playfulure (24), Finnian Metalfox (25), Izett Cruelsinger (27), Ameerah Frolicstag (28)

Table of Peace 7

Shand Azureye (9), Bac Wunderelin (13), Queran Gloomsoul (16), Bronwyn Mightyfeet (17), Lyel Lambboat (18), Carmen Brightsun (23), Gaerwen Gleamingrace (26)

On the Floor/Hosts/Nons 5

Roxy (1), bea (2), MovingPictures07 (3), insertnamehere (7), S~V~S (11)
Total votes : 29

Dilan Bluemoss wrote:The Purple Sea Elves have a question for our hosts that we believe is fair and not out of the bounds of reasonableness.

Is Rumplestilkskin allowed to choose a proper name, such as that of one of the players?

If the answer comes back in the affirmative or if no answer is given, I would recommend that we try to refrain from referring to each other directly by name whenever possible.

Please no more questions about Rumplestiltskin's Ability.

Trust me no regular words nor names proper or otherwise will be used.

Dilan Bluemoss apologizes to the hosts for asking too many questions and looks forward to hunting evildoers and driving them from the realm with their tails between their legs.

I hope some lovely person can post who sat at what table? pretty please

Izett Cruelsinger wrote:I hope some lovely person can post who sat at what table? pretty please

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=149&p=19328#p19328
We have made a separate thread that will have the polls for you mafia gaming pleasure.

Woot game's started!

So numerically, Happiness holds the cards here with ten voters. It is going to be difficult in the extreme to lynch someone with a consensus vote with this system.

Beauteous Hostladies: Is there a consequence for not voting? Would ties be pleasing or displeasing to our Great & Merciful Overladies?

I don't want to vote for any of my jolly friends, but if I must. Those evildoers shall not defeat us

Thanks for the chart, Shand Azureye.

A death already? Wow! This is exciting stuff. Let's hope it was a baddie

Yeah thanks for the chart shand, very helpful, amd a great use of photoshop, very creative!!! And HOMER!!!

Not much has happened to make me vote anyone yet, hopefully that will change soon.

Roxy your posts are awesome!

Bac Wunderelin wrote:So numerically, Happiness holds the cards here with ten voters. It is going to be difficult in the extreme to lynch someone with a consensus vote with this system.

Beauteous Hostladies: Is there a consequence for not voting? Would ties be pleasing or displeasing to our Great & Merciful Overladies?

I think you know this answer.
Yes ofc there are consequences if you do not vote.

I will tell everyone now if you do not vote you will be unable to use your ability at night.

Ties are no prob. I do not know how Bea feels about them though.

Lyel Lambboat wrote:@lovely hosts when we lynch someone will their role be revealed even if they are not currently listed?

Yes ofc!

It's ok Rox. Most important thing is for you to feel better.

I don't have any ideas yet for suspects at the Love table. I don't know about you guys, but I'm having a little trouble here at the beginning keeping straight which person is saying what because all the names are unfamiliar as well as being a mouthful. Hopefully that will change as we go through this first day.

Bronwyn Mightyfeet wrote:It's ok Rox. Most important thing is for you to feel better.

I don't have any ideas yet for suspects at the Love table. I don't know about you guys, but I'm having a little trouble here at the beginning keeping straight which person is saying what because all the names are unfamiliar as well as being a mouthful. Hopefully that will change as we go through this first day.

I am glad I am not the only one.

Thank you for the visual of the seating chart.

Roxy...pain meds are your friend....snap away

I haven't seen much in the way of suspicion yet~

Love the twist to the day one poll! This will making voting very interesting indeed!

Well, this is kind of interesting how we are mandated to vote for a particular table. I don't have much in the way of suspicion, the only ping I've had so far whatsoever was Izett saying she didn't know how the hosts would handle rumples role but she thought it probably wouldn't matter how it was treated. I got the feeling it was possible she knew it because it was her role or the role of her teammate, I'm sure that's a question the mafia would have asked the hostesses to elaborate on for them privately. I can totally see this being a completely innocent attempt to be helpful as well however, what do others think?

Dallon, if you're referring to when she said she'd probably count a word whether it was scrunched or not, that didn't ping me particularly. It just kind of seemed like speculating on what she'd do if she were host.

I was a bit pinged by Caillic saying he won't even try to circumvent Rumplestiltskin's power; it seems like that would be in the civs' best interests. However, it did seem like he said that because he was worried about host repercussions. I doubt it would merit a vote even if I could vote for him, but I'll have an eye on him in any case.

It seems like someone from the Table of Peace is statistically likely to die, given the high number of Happiness votes. Maybe we should discuss some of them so we can hopefully get a baddie from there? Of course, if everyone feels really really strongly about someone from another table, we could try to get a unanimous vote and have the Happiness voters split their votes, but it's Day 1 so I personally doubt a unanimous lynch candidate will show up.

Fane Winebattle wrote: That reminds me of, "A Christmas Story" I love that movie

Oh, and one more thing! When does this poll end?

Fane, I'm really glad someone got my reference!

I don't have any particular suspicions from the Table of Peace, so I would welcome any input from you, my Gargoyle friend.

Gobnait, I noticed in the hosts post they said the poll would end 6:00 pm Eastern time on Wednesday.

I don't have any particular suspicions period! :P

Apologies for my short absence - I was indisposed and unable to get here. Roxy, good to see you are okay after your accident!

Interesting lynch poll twist! I voted Table of Happiness and must choose one of the Table of Peace voters - Shand Azureye Bac Wunderelin Queran Gloomsoul Bronwyn Mightyfeet Lyel Lambboat Carmen Brightsun Gaerwen Gleamingrace - I don't have any opinions on these peeps yet, so will take a bit of time and read their posts.

Back later!

Also, just wanted to advise that I will be a bit sporadic for a few days yet - but I am still playing

Thanks for the chart, Shand! I think that will be very helpful for me since I'm used to going through and looking at people's avatars to identify who is who.

Unfortunately, I don't have much of a read on anyone from the Love Table right now. I will have to go back and reread to see what I find.

Yeah, I have no idea. I have to keep another tab open to see who it is sitting at the Love table. Certainly, I have no inclination to place a ballot for one as opposed to another.

I will have to observe and report my thoughts on the people at the Love table before I make a decision to vote. But all in good time. For now, in customary Moonlit Kracken Fashion, I will silently brood.

I don't have anything to go on right now. Homer Simpson is making me nervous though.

Dallon Redwarlock wrote:Well, this is kind of interesting how we are mandated to vote for a particular table. I don't have much in the way of suspicion, the only ping I've had so far whatsoever was Izett saying she didn't know how the hosts would handle rumples role but she thought it probably wouldn't matter how it was treated. I got the feeling it was possible she knew it because it was her role or the role of her teammate, I'm sure that's a question the mafia would have asked the hostesses to elaborate on for them privately. I can totally see this being a completely innocent attempt to be helpful as well however, what do others think?

Sometimes, when I am playing a bad person, I ask a host a question in advance so I know what they will say and then ask it again in the thread in order to give this very appearance. And when I am playing an innocent, I just ask in the thread, so yeah, it could go either way. I will say that Izett is not someone I can vote for, but you are. And since I see your point, I will not be voting for you becasue you are trying to root out evil, and that gives me a nice warm civilian feel in my tummy (although if you confess or acted outrageously suspicious, well, that would negate this, plus it isn't really a vow or an oath, just an extended observation, you understand).

I am most likely to vote for the lowest posting person at the Love table, barring that confession or outrageously suspicious behavior.

I'm also likely to vote the lowest poster from the Love table unless something makes me suspicious during the day tomorrow which may very well happen. I believe there is someone sitting at the Love table who has not posted at all in the thread, Royalskull so s/he won't appear on the list. I hate defaulting to low poster so I hope something comes up tomorrow but just in case, that is my plan.

It will be difficult choosing a happy person to vote. Everyone is on their best behavior.

Bac Wunderelin wrote:

Dallon Redwarlock wrote:Well, this is kind of interesting how we are mandated to vote for a particular table. I don't have much in the way of suspicion, the only ping I've had so far whatsoever was Izett saying she didn't know how the hosts would handle rumples role but she thought it probably wouldn't matter how it was treated. I got the feeling it was possible she knew it because it was her role or the role of her teammate, I'm sure that's a question the mafia would have asked the hostesses to elaborate on for them privately. I can totally see this being a completely innocent attempt to be helpful as well however, what do others think?

Sometimes, when I am playing a bad person, I ask a host a question in advance so I know what they will say and then ask it again in the thread in order to give this very appearance. And when I am playing an innocent, I just ask in the thread, so yeah, it could go either way. I will say that Izett is not someone I can vote for, but you are. And since I see your point, I will not be voting for you becasue you are trying to root out evil, and that gives me a nice warm civilian feel in my tummy (although if you confess or acted outrageously suspicious, well, that would negate this, plus it isn't really a vow or an oath, just an extended observation, you understand).

I am most likely to vote for the lowest posting person at the Love table, barring that confession or outrageously suspicious behavior.

Dallon is correct in what I was saying. I have hosted many times and it is what I would do if I was a host. I can see how you would think otherwise, but I assure you it is not the case.

Wow, this game is tough on a phone!

Dilan Bluemoss wrote:I don't have any particular suspicions from the Table of Peace, so I would welcome any input from you, my Gargoyle friend.

Dilan, I don't have any strong suspicions of anyone there yet. I think that Shand, Bac, and Bronwyn, and to a lesser degree Gaerwen, have all made helpful contributions so far, so I have slightly civ reads on them for now. If I hadto vote for a Peace player I'd choose one of the other three. Just on gut I feel least good about Carmen, but it's only Day 1 so gut still has a lot of potential to be wrong.

Speaking of it being Day 1, I am, as always, very against voting no-shows, or even low posters. First of all, some people take longer to get into the game or may not have noticed it's on. Secondly and more importantly, our wonderful hostesses seem to have already demonstrated their willingness to kill non-participants. I'd give people another day, and if they're voting and not posting and not mod killed I think it would be safe to assume they're laying low at that point. That's just me though

I random voted anchorete. not much time to concentrate on this tonight or tomorrow morning.

I'm not sure how I feel about the discussion about Rumpel's ability. The concern is genuine, and he and his team can wreck havoc if we let him go unchecked with his magic words. On the other hand, people who first brought it up could very easily have been using it as a ruse to make us believe they are not part of the evil gang. I'm also confused about the suggestions brought up, speakinglikethis, or in a different language and using google translate. On the one hand, they could be genuine suggestions from helpful townies, or knowing how Rumpel's ability works they could just be ways of making it difficult for townies to discuss suspicions in the thread. Right now, I'm tending towards not considering either side of the argument as overly suspicious, but I will be keeping an eye on those who seemed to subtly oppose the proposed workarounds against Rumpel.

With that said, I don't know who I will vote for today. I don't want to put a random vote, or pick a low-poster, if at all possible. But that will be my last resort.

Ugh day 1.

I know some people hate the idea, but I may just cast a random vote from the Table of Peace. I will look through their posts first to get some idea who I'm voting for.

I am voting for the lowest poster from Love, Jorhan. One post.

Shand Azureye wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about the discussion about Rumpel's ability. The concern is genuine, and he and his team can wreck havoc if we let him go unchecked with his magic words. On the other hand, people who first brought it up could very easily have been using it as a ruse to make us believe they are not part of the evil gang. I'm also confused about the suggestions brought up, speakinglikethis, or in a different language and using google translate. On the one hand, they could be genuine suggestions from helpful townies, or knowing how Rumpel's ability works they could just be ways of making it difficult for townies to discuss suspicions in the thread. Right now, I'm tending towards not considering either side of the argument as overly suspicious, but I will be keeping an eye on those who seemed to subtly oppose the proposed workarounds against Rumpel.

With that said, I don't know who I will vote for today. I don't want to put a random vote, or pick a low-poster, if at all possible. But that will be my last resort.

Ugh day 1.

I think having conversation regarding how to foil an evildoer is an outstanding activity. Some of the potential solutions may be unworkable, but some may not. Saying that putting forth possible solutions may be a nefarious activity raises my hackles. Pixies have hackles, you know, Tiny little hackles.

Dilan Bluemoss posts his current observations of the members of the Peace Table for all to read and enjoy:

Bac: Has been very forthcoming and helpful thus far, creating the first seating chart and offering lots of ideas
Shand: Created the more visual seating charts, which was very helpful, but Bac has a point about his criticism of attempts to thwart Rumplestiltskin.
Bronwyn: Has presented himself as rather confused and hapless, which could equally be a sincere reaction to an admittedly confusing sock game, or a calculated ploy.
Carmen: Has posted virtually nothing, and certainly nothing of substance for us to go on.
Queran: Despite a rather spotty history between the Krackens and the Sea Elves, Queran has been generally helpful and complimentary so far. His ideas have struck me as good ones.
Gaerwen: I don't know how we are supposed o trust Forbidden Puppet Magicians (indeed, a more evil combination of words can hardly be conceived) but nothing Gaerwen has done yet arouses any suspicions.
Lyel: Has been very quiet, asking one host question and not yet contributing much of substance. This could be attributable to the Giants' general lack of verbal skills, however.

EBWOP: Many apologies to Bronwyn, whom I now notice is female, not male.

The Purple Sea Elves have held a vote and have decided to cast our ballot for Bronwyn Mightyfeet, Vicerine of the Yellow Gypsies. Lyel and Carmen should be advised that their names were mentioned as well and we would very much like to hear more from them in the future.