The Syndicate

Rej wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:14 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 11:59 am Isn't Mac just listing the people who got assessed a vote for not voting correctly? I didn't take his post seriously.

Meanwhile we have to vote for someone today and it's going to be hard if people aren't posting content. So far nobody has said anything I can make a read off of yet. Does anyone have anything they think looks suspicious?

Today is my birthday by the way and I'm in another game too so I will be in and out.

Happy birthday!
I am suspicious of this Mac guy for now, because of the way he entered this day phase. He either knows something or he plays with us. I see it as a not wisemove to list yourself as town, that way he might approach us to trust him, but the nr 1 rule is not to trust anyone. I would vote off someone like him, so I expect him to tell us why he lists himself as town and this while we have no information.

That's funny, I'm the only person on my town list right now.

Rej wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:19 am I went sleep and came back and that's it? It is day one if I am correct and the people above me actually fluffed? Am I reading that correctly?

Wait, what is fluffing in this context?

Rej wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:14 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 11:59 am Isn't Mac just listing the people who got assessed a vote for not voting correctly? I didn't take his post seriously.

Meanwhile we have to vote for someone today and it's going to be hard if people aren't posting content. So far nobody has said anything I can make a read off of yet. Does anyone have anything they think looks suspicious?

Today is my birthday by the way and I'm in another game too so I will be in and out.

Happy birthday!
I am suspicious of this Mac guy for now, because of the way he entered this day phase. He either knows something or he plays with us. I see it as a not wisemove to list yourself as town, that way he might approach us to trust him, but the nr 1 rule is not to trust anyone. I would vote off someone like him, so I expect him to tell us why he lists himself as town and this while we have no information.

Thanks Rej!

I've given my opinion about why Mac names those names so it's probably best if others tell you what they see (it would be best if Mac explained himself but he is in a time zone where he is asleep during our daylight hours and probably will not get here until late this afternoon). I will also say that a lot of times when I see people give a list of who they think is good they include themselves, which makes no sense to me but I wanted to alert you that happens regularly on this site. Anyway, hopefully others will arrive soon and we can continue this discussion and get other discussions going as well.

linki

juliets wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:44 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:14 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 11:59 am Isn't Mac just listing the people who got assessed a vote for not voting correctly? I didn't take his post seriously.

Meanwhile we have to vote for someone today and it's going to be hard if people aren't posting content. So far nobody has said anything I can make a read off of yet. Does anyone have anything they think looks suspicious?

Today is my birthday by the way and I'm in another game too so I will be in and out.

Happy birthday!
I am suspicious of this Mac guy for now, because of the way he entered this day phase. He either knows something or he plays with us. I see it as a not wisemove to list yourself as town, that way he might approach us to trust him, but the nr 1 rule is not to trust anyone. I would vote off someone like him, so I expect him to tell us why he lists himself as town and this while we have no information.

Thanks Rej!

I've given my opinion about why Mac names those names so it's probably best if others tell you what they see (it would be best if Mac explained himself but he is in a time zone where he is asleep during our daylight hours and probably will not get here until late this afternoon). I will also say that a lot of times when I see people give a list of who they think is good they include themselves, which makes no sense to me but I wanted to alert you that happens regularly on this site. Anyway, hopefully others will arrive soon and we can continue this discussion and get other discussions going as well.

linki

thanks Juliet, I didn't knew people do it, for me it's an obvious thing that you should keep for yourself because with my current expertise such statements can cause a distraction (like now for me lol). doesn't change the fact that mac claims them all to be town (those guys with an extra vote on them). As noone spills information about it, we gotta have to test our luck this DP, I will be online for 3 more hours from now on. Hope something happens where I can investigate my reads into.

Rej wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:14 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 11:59 am Isn't Mac just listing the people who got assessed a vote for not voting correctly? I didn't take his post seriously.

Meanwhile we have to vote for someone today and it's going to be hard if people aren't posting content. So far nobody has said anything I can make a read off of yet. Does anyone have anything they think looks suspicious?

Today is my birthday by the way and I'm in another game too so I will be in and out.

Happy birthday!
I am suspicious of this Mac guy for now, because of the way he entered this day phase. He either knows something or he plays with us. I see it as a not wisemove to list yourself as town, that way he might approach us to trust him, but the nr 1 rule is not to trust anyone. I would vote off someone like him, so I expect him to tell us why he lists himself as town and this while we have no information.

I know I'm town. Does that mean I deserve a vote too?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:40 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:19 am I went sleep and came back and that's it? It is day one if I am correct and the people above me actually fluffed? Am I reading that correctly?

Wait, what is fluffing in this context?

Not spilling out the beans and playing AROUND the information. Like in Macs case, why he think them all are townies, but the comments on his case were kinda contentless.

birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:06 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:14 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 11:59 am Isn't Mac just listing the people who got assessed a vote for not voting correctly? I didn't take his post seriously.

Meanwhile we have to vote for someone today and it's going to be hard if people aren't posting content. So far nobody has said anything I can make a read off of yet. Does anyone have anything they think looks suspicious?

Today is my birthday by the way and I'm in another game too so I will be in and out.

Happy birthday!
I am suspicious of this Mac guy for now, because of the way he entered this day phase. He either knows something or he plays with us. I see it as a not wisemove to list yourself as town, that way he might approach us to trust him, but the nr 1 rule is not to trust anyone. I would vote off someone like him, so I expect him to tell us why he lists himself as town and this while we have no information.

I know I'm town. Does that mean I deserve a vote too?

The thing with saying "I am town" is so baseless, because at this point of the game we have no invest results, which means that scum could also say "I am town". So I am not used to it, If someone is town he should stand up and make a real play.

We have 5 people that have a +1 vote on themselves, due to lackluster useage of mechanics, and who is giving us the guarantee of them being town when everyone could have been in their position even wolves.

Rej wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:06 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:40 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:19 am I went sleep and came back and that's it? It is day one if I am correct and the people above me actually fluffed? Am I reading that correctly?

Wait, what is fluffing in this context?

Not spilling out the beans and playing AROUND the information. Like in Macs case, why he think them all are townies, but the comments on his case were kinda contentless.

And that was enough to go ahead and throw a vote on him? Would anyone else who creates such a list of who they believe to be town be worthy of such a vote too?

Linki: Well if you're not used to it, that makes sense. I know some people do it based on personal playstyles/what mafia environment they come from or are used to. But to each his own I guess.

There could be some people who benefited from voting a certain way on Day 0 and had information as such. I wouldn't put it past Spacedaisy to include that as a mechanic.

Honestly, that's something I wouldn't mind exploring further. The hostess clearly stated that there needed to be an equal number of votes for each option. Are we really going to believe that 7 people just didn't read that clarification?

If I have time this afternoon, I want to go back and explore that.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine is mafia, i'm 9000% confinent

90000%

birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:16 pm Honestly, that's something I wouldn't mind exploring further. The hostess clearly stated that there needed to be an equal number of votes for each option. Are we really going to believe that 7 people just didn't read that clarification?

If I have time this afternoon, I want to go back and explore that.

That's an interesting thought. It used to happen all the time back in the olden days of mafia but I haven't seen it done recently. I don't have time today to go back and explore it but let us know if you see anything.

I thought maybe Mac's thinking was that scum would be more likely to read the rules thoroughly and to want to be careful to avoid the extra vote thing. And I say this as a civilian who read the rules thoroughly but also I just voted early enough that it didn't matter lol.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:44 pm I thought maybe Mac's thinking was that scum would be more likely to read the rules thoroughly and to want to be careful to avoid the extra vote thing. And I say this as a civilian who read the rules thoroughly but also I just voted early enough that it didn't matter lol.

That makes perfect sense based on what I know of the way Mac thinks.

So this is getting into meta, I cry, does it mean he set up his statement? Want me to unvote?

birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:15 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:06 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:40 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:19 am I went sleep and came back and that's it? It is day one if I am correct and the people above me actually fluffed? Am I reading that correctly?

Wait, what is fluffing in this context?

Not spilling out the beans and playing AROUND the information. Like in Macs case, why he think them all are townies, but the comments on his case were kinda contentless.

And that was enough to go ahead and throw a vote on him? Would anyone else who creates such a list of who they believe to be town be worthy of such a vote too?

Linki: Well if you're not used to it, that makes sense. I know some people do it based on personal playstyles/what mafia environment they come from or are used to. But to each his own I guess.

There could be some people who benefited from voting a certain way on Day 0 and had information as such. I wouldn't put it past Spacedaisy to include that as a mechanic.

Aight man I understand, I am ready to cooperate, because it also seems I have to figure out some meta reads here as some was mentioned.

birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:16 pm Honestly, that's something I wouldn't mind exploring further. The hostess clearly stated that there needed to be an equal number of votes for each option. Are we really going to believe that 7 people just didn't read that clarification?

If I have time this afternoon, I want to go back and explore that.

Three people... the first four to vote were as legit as the rest of you, and not in danger of punishment. One of the three, Epi, already said he got drunk and forgot.

Rej wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:10 pm

birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:06 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:14 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 11:59 am Isn't Mac just listing the people who got assessed a vote for not voting correctly? I didn't take his post seriously.

Meanwhile we have to vote for someone today and it's going to be hard if people aren't posting content. So far nobody has said anything I can make a read off of yet. Does anyone have anything they think looks suspicious?

Today is my birthday by the way and I'm in another game too so I will be in and out.

Happy birthday!
I am suspicious of this Mac guy for now, because of the way he entered this day phase. He either knows something or he plays with us. I see it as a not wisemove to list yourself as town, that way he might approach us to trust him, but the nr 1 rule is not to trust anyone. I would vote off someone like him, so I expect him to tell us why he lists himself as town and this while we have no information.

I know I'm town. Does that mean I deserve a vote too?

The thing with saying "I am town" is so baseless, because at this point of the game we have no invest results, which means that scum could also say "I am town". So I am not used to it, If someone is town he should stand up and make a real play.

We have 5 people that have a +1 vote on themselves, due to lackluster useage of mechanics, and who is giving us the guarantee of them being town when everyone could have been in their position even wolves.

I don’t know if you are new to mafia or this site, but sometimes, people say they are town because one of the roles might be a lie detector role. Although in games where everyone is making a town claim, mafia can too, but it seems like a harmless enough statement to make.

I’ll be scarce today, because I have company and cooking to do for tonight. I won’t miss the vote but I have no clue about who to vote.

[mention]Spacedaisy[/mention] the poll doesn't appear to have an end time ((

Matahari wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:53 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:10 pm

birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:06 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:14 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 11:59 am Isn't Mac just listing the people who got assessed a vote for not voting correctly? I didn't take his post seriously.

Meanwhile we have to vote for someone today and it's going to be hard if people aren't posting content. So far nobody has said anything I can make a read off of yet. Does anyone have anything they think looks suspicious?

Today is my birthday by the way and I'm in another game too so I will be in and out.

Happy birthday!
I am suspicious of this Mac guy for now, because of the way he entered this day phase. He either knows something or he plays with us. I see it as a not wisemove to list yourself as town, that way he might approach us to trust him, but the nr 1 rule is not to trust anyone. I would vote off someone like him, so I expect him to tell us why he lists himself as town and this while we have no information.

I know I'm town. Does that mean I deserve a vote too?

The thing with saying "I am town" is so baseless, because at this point of the game we have no invest results, which means that scum could also say "I am town". So I am not used to it, If someone is town he should stand up and make a real play.

We have 5 people that have a +1 vote on themselves, due to lackluster useage of mechanics, and who is giving us the guarantee of them being town when everyone could have been in their position even wolves.

I don’t know if you are new to mafia or this site, but sometimes, people say they are town because one of the roles might be a lie detector role. Although in games where everyone is making a town claim, mafia can too, but it seems like a harmless enough statement to make.

I’ll be scarce today, because I have company and cooking to do for tonight. I won’t miss the vote but I have no clue about who to vote.

But I think a lie detector shouldn't be able to dig information out of a "list". Anyway I got it. I am also town and trying out to find scum.

I didn't get the notification and now it's night time where I live. So I won't be active for quite a while, but I'll take part for a little time

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:20 pm

birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:16 pm Honestly, that's something I wouldn't mind exploring further. The hostess clearly stated that there needed to be an equal number of votes for each option. Are we really going to believe that 7 people just didn't read that clarification?

If I have time this afternoon, I want to go back and explore that.

Three people... the first four to vote were as legit as the rest of you, and not in danger of punishment. One of the three, Epi, already said he got drunk and forgot.

Who are the other two? Either I'm missing in the posts who they were or they never posted stating they were voting for space.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:36 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine is mafia, i'm 9000% confinent

You're really acting like Inferno390.

Yeah so I was just a dumb and didn't read it right, not sure why I completely missed the part about it being an even choice across the board like it was supposed to be. I literally was just being a dumb and didn't read it right. LOL - In regards to that theme vote. I saw choose your cubical theme and my instant reaction was "Space". Now I'm paying the price for not reading the post carefully.

Yeah to touch back on something someone said, I think its strange to vote ones self as a Civi on the basis that its kind of a given. Why would you just outright come out and say "I'm bad" so its strange and a confusing misdirection to me for someone to try and already press that they specifically are a "Civilian" in this case.

Kyle - why such a strong and sudden jump on Creature?
What makes you 900000% sure enough to drop a vote?

I think she knows me from somewhere but doesn't want to admit it.

Its kind of going all in on someone hard without making much of a case other than. "9000%" Sure. That's pretty aggressive and with no explanation. Sounds like they think they know you, but without supporting evidence this bothers me.

Nah, it's just stupid.

If they know me well enough to claim that "certainty" on me, I don't expect them to believe I can be mislynched.

guess I'm gonna have to carry this game.

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 4:17 pm Sounds like they think they know you, but without supporting evidence this bothers me.

You sounded opportunistic here btw.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 8:38 pm Dragomir
Epignosis
MacDougall
Oreki
SokothQultuq

Civilians

Bad post.

also alphabetical order looks like a mafia tell.

Rej can be town

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 4:08 pm Kyle - why such a strong and sudden jump on Creature?
What makes you 900000% sure enough to drop a vote?

just 90000%

Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 4:53 pm

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 4:17 pm Sounds like they think they know you, but without supporting evidence this bothers me.

You sounded opportunistic here btw.

Yeah I can see that. But its true to me. It does bother me when someone claims someone is something and does not provide supporting evidence. They are just making a case for me in this instance. I'm just calling it how I see it in this case.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:00 pm

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 4:08 pm Kyle - why such a strong and sudden jump on Creature?
What makes you 900000% sure enough to drop a vote?

just 90000%

Sorry, my bad... LOL But that feels a bit like your dodging answering the question. Unless your about to drop some mad knowledge on us...
Why 90000%?
I'd be interested in hearing your case for this vote and claim.

my reasoning is that he seems anxious, he made posts about how there's been nothing going on and how it's bothered him but hasn't made much personal effort to stir discussion up himself. he's made offhand comments but no running comments until basically an hour ago. that's not to say he's the only one in that boat but he sticks out to me because of that/ it seems disingenuous.

when is the poll supposed to end btw? i want to be around. i know it's 6 but like,... what time zone

Glad other people also start to see how confusing the post from mac has been, that is quite townish behaviour that I like.
Kylemii seems a mystery to me according to his statements...

Rej wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:14 pm Glad other people also start to see how confusing the post from mac has been, that is quite townish behaviour that I like.
Kylemii seems a mystery to me according to his statements...

ok he spilled out the beans, my sincerst apology

Rej wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:14 pm Glad other people also start to see how confusing the post from mac has been, that is quite townish behaviour that I like.
Kylemii seems a mystery to me according to his statements...

So for me to look like a civilian to you, all I needed to do was act confused about Mac's post?

what is creatures like normally? in normal games

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:15 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:14 pm Glad other people also start to see how confusing the post from mac has been, that is quite townish behaviour that I like.
Kylemii seems a mystery to me according to his statements...

So for me to look like a civilian to you, all I needed to do was act confused about Mac's post?

what else, there is not much content here, it's D1

not to imply that this isn't a normal game i just mean in other games than this one

I view MacDougall and Rej as civilians.

Kylemii's - Thank you for that information. Buy why not come out with that from the get go? Why did it have to be coaxed out of you? Shouldn't you open with that instead of just dropping a random vote and an obscure note?

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:25 pm Kylemii's - Thank you for that information. Buy why not come out with that from the get go? Why did it have to be coaxed out of you? Shouldn't you open with that instead of just dropping a random vote and an obscure note?

He got a reaction out of you.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:13 pm my reasoning is that he seems anxious, he made posts about how there's been nothing going on and how it's bothered him but hasn't made much personal effort to stir discussion up himself. he's made offhand comments but no running comments until basically an hour ago. that's not to say he's the only one in that boat but he sticks out to me because of that/ it seems disingenuous.

Kyle, when I looked at Daisy's post that began the day it was posted at 7:18 my time (eastern daylight) so I'm assuming this phase would end sometime around then.

I am not at all sure who to vote for. No one is standing out to me so far. I'll look over your point on Creature, Kyle.