Phenon: Origins REDUX [MAFIA WIN]
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Less than one hour til end of day here. Perhaps we can muster some energy to at least have a good final hour?
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There are currently votes on all but four people and yet no greater than two votes. I am one of those with two votes. This is not an optimal setup for a successful lynch. We need to consolidate. As I said, Golf is my preferred lynch today. I don't see any reason for votes on Kilo and I don't think Golf's vote on Charlie is a good one. As it stands Golf is positioned to lynch me out of self preservation which is again, significantly non optimal as they won't even have to be held to account for it.
Civilians, do something about this.
Civilians, do something about this.
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I know OMGUS is rarely valuable, but given the status of the game (little content, and little in the way of perceived consequences to bad voting) this vote is awful. Foxtrot is positioned to give no effort in this game, therefore give us no chance to solve them, therefore should be solved via lynch.
Both Golf and Foxtrot are good lynches. I am a bad lynch. A very bad lynch.
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I am not feeling confident that there is going to be an influx of effort here.
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Given that I doubt there's going to be much effort, and that Golf can self pres me to lynch me outright so will unlikely just go into a tie with me, and Foxtrot has no votes, I am forced to bring someone else into a tie with me.
It won't be Charlie or Kilo. I have to look at the other options here.
It won't be Charlie or Kilo. I have to look at the other options here.
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So Golf is now in a position where if they self preservation vote, the day becomes Golf vs. Echo.
After re-analysing the thread, while I suspect Golf, there are several others that have contributed less. I have particular concerns about India, Delta and Foxtrot. They have offered nothing.
We cannot win this game if they are civilians and are continue putting forth this effort. If we lynch Golf (or Echo) and they flip civilian, there is a strong chance that we will lose this game. As strange as it sounds, in a low effort game it is imperative that we don't lynch players who are civilian and putting forth efforts. Therefore I would prefer we lynch one from the aforementioned pile as opposed to Golf. We can solve Golf, as Golf has at least made a commitment to playing the game.
India and Foxtrot has zero votes. Delta has a vote from Hotel. So I will switch to Delta.
After re-analysing the thread, while I suspect Golf, there are several others that have contributed less. I have particular concerns about India, Delta and Foxtrot. They have offered nothing.
We cannot win this game if they are civilians and are continue putting forth this effort. If we lynch Golf (or Echo) and they flip civilian, there is a strong chance that we will lose this game. As strange as it sounds, in a low effort game it is imperative that we don't lynch players who are civilian and putting forth efforts. Therefore I would prefer we lynch one from the aforementioned pile as opposed to Golf. We can solve Golf, as Golf has at least made a commitment to playing the game.
India and Foxtrot has zero votes. Delta has a vote from Hotel. So I will switch to Delta.
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There is now less than half an hour until end of day and there is very little effort. This game is in dire health. I implore civilians to lift.
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Solve Golf now. Is Golf a civilian or a baddie?Echo wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:51 pm So Golf is now in a position where if they self preservation vote, the day becomes Golf vs. Echo.
After re-analysing the thread, while I suspect Golf, there are several others that have contributed less. I have particular concerns about India, Delta and Foxtrot. They have offered nothing.
We cannot win this game if they are civilians and are continue putting forth this effort. If we lynch Golf (or Echo) and they flip civilian, there is a strong chance that we will lose this game. As strange as it sounds, in a low effort game it is imperative that we don't lynch players who are civilian and putting forth efforts. Therefore I would prefer we lynch one from the aforementioned pile as opposed to Golf. We can solve Golf, as Golf has at least made a commitment to playing the game.
India and Foxtrot has zero votes. Delta has a vote from Hotel. So I will switch to Delta.
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I think Golf is suspicious but unless we get more people in here we can put Golf into a lynching position that doesn't give them the avenue of tying with me.
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we can't*
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How is that relevant? Voting Delta isn't going to help your concerns of Golf having an avenue to tie the lynch.
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Security was cautious about Juliet because the exchange with Alpha had the potential to escalate into one guest taking advantage of the vulnerability of another. It does not appear that anything came of it one way or the other.
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That is assuming Golf doesn't show up. Why are you assuming he's not going to show up if the votes stay the them? While at the same, dreading that he'll show up if you put it 3 v 2 v 1, which would guarantee you not being mislynched.
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I have also now given Golf the chance to vote for Delta instead of me out of self preservation. I am more comfortable here.
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If he doesn't show up, I will switch back to golf in time in order for Golf to be lynched instead of me.
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Do you see anything suspicious in Delta's post? Or is it default?
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Basically as it was before then Golf's only avenue if they show up is to vote me into a tie.
In this situation, Golf or Delta can choose to vote for either me, and my response will be to vote THEM into a tie. Or they can vote for Delta. I am quite okay with Golf or Delta (and very not okay with my own lynch).
Should they just not show up, then the logical thing for me to do is to vote for Golf.
If they both show up and they both vote me and cause my lynch, well that'll be up to the civilians to solve whether they did so for good or bad reasons once I flip.
In this situation, Golf or Delta can choose to vote for either me, and my response will be to vote THEM into a tie. Or they can vote for Delta. I am quite okay with Golf or Delta (and very not okay with my own lynch).
Should they just not show up, then the logical thing for me to do is to vote for Golf.
If they both show up and they both vote me and cause my lynch, well that'll be up to the civilians to solve whether they did so for good or bad reasons once I flip.
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Bravo seems rather perturbed by the notion of Delta being lynched. Noted.
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I would not mind evicting Foxtrot from the inn. Their vote left a very repugnant stink in the lobby which still has not gone away.
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Switching to Golf.
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Hotel vote Golf to cover their escape route.
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Never mind. Thank you for your help Bravo.
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I did not know we were at the deadline.
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Well you can't now because the day is ended.
It would have been because at that stage it was either Golf or me getting lynched and me getting lynched would have sucked.
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The hotel's position is one which does not support the idea of you being lynched. We simply lost track of the time.
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Well Golf is being lynched so Hotel's got nothing to worry about.
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The Daring Escape
As the 11 people argued about their room a terrible crashing was coming from the one and only barricaded door to their location. Based off of the terrible noises and gunfire from before, they knew that something awful was attempting to break in.
At an impasse the group knew that they needed to be anywhere but in that room. And worked out that they could take the ventilation shaft to escape. But it was in an awkward spot of the room so someone would have to lift up the others to the vent so that they could get inside.
Golf was one who volunteered to be last man up, but the decision ended up costing them their life. As the last person scrambled up to the vent, the sound of tables and equipment being scattered and flung about was heard and Golf was swarmed by whatever horrors had managed to get in. The rest of the group briefly mourned the loss but knew they had to move on to somewhere else. Hopefully a safe passage, a way out, a place that isn’t here.
Thanks for playing Golf
But you’ve been lynched
Night 1 starts and ends in 23 hours or 10pm EST tomorrow
As the 11 people argued about their room a terrible crashing was coming from the one and only barricaded door to their location. Based off of the terrible noises and gunfire from before, they knew that something awful was attempting to break in.
At an impasse the group knew that they needed to be anywhere but in that room. And worked out that they could take the ventilation shaft to escape. But it was in an awkward spot of the room so someone would have to lift up the others to the vent so that they could get inside.
Golf was one who volunteered to be last man up, but the decision ended up costing them their life. As the last person scrambled up to the vent, the sound of tables and equipment being scattered and flung about was heard and Golf was swarmed by whatever horrors had managed to get in. The rest of the group briefly mourned the loss but knew they had to move on to somewhere else. Hopefully a safe passage, a way out, a place that isn’t here.
Thanks for playing Golf
But you’ve been lynched
Night 1 starts and ends in 23 hours or 10pm EST tomorrow
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Day 1 Votes:
A-0
B-1-K
C-1-G
D-1-H
E-2-C,F
F-0
G-3-A,E,B
H-0
I-0
J-0
K-1-J
No vote: Delta, India
A-0
B-1-K
C-1-G
D-1-H
E-2-C,F
F-0
G-3-A,E,B
H-0
I-0
J-0
K-1-J
No vote: Delta, India
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Interesting that I am far from the only low or inactive yet somehow there seemed to be a push for me because of my absence. Think that shit needs looked over.
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One down already. Good job!
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Bravo!
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One down? Where does it say that? Am I blind or are the flips not telling us who has flipped?
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The flips do not tell us who flipped. So how does Bravo know Golf was bad?
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No reveals on lynch? That does remove a huge part of the game.
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I mean yeah but did you really do anything that made you deserve not to be lynched?
Considering the situation, picking one of the inactives at random wasn't unfair.
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I’m not saying I did something worth not getting lynched, my point was that I was int he same position as at least two or three other people but somehow there was a frantic push for me? Why? I have the luxury of knowing I am civ, so it looks hella suspicious to me.
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Picking a random inactive is one thing. But there was a strong attempt to coordinate movement to me, which looks to me like a save attempt. It wasn’t just like, well there is no one better so why not an inactive? It was an attempt to get me lynched instead. Shady shit imo.
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Well, it was an attempt to get you lynched. But we aren't getting anyone lynched unless we actually coordinate to get more than 1 vote on them. If we randomly split the votes among all the inactives, we'd always lynch active players.
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Saving who?Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:48 am Picking a random inactive is one thing. But there was a strong attempt to coordinate movement to me, which looks to me like a save attempt. It wasn’t just like, well there is no one better so why not an inactive? It was an attempt to get me lynched instead. Shady shit imo.
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I feel like you are ignoring my point, but frankly I’m not interested in arguing it.
I’ve done a read through of the whole thread so far and this is where I currently stand
Alpha - civ
I like the look of the progression of his thoughts and votes. Early on his rp was a bit empty, but once pushed he moved into what looks fine like legit scum hunting.
Bravo - slight bad
I didn’t care for early votes placed with no reasoning offered. Not a good look. But I liked Bravo’s response to Echo’s vote on me. Not just because it was on me, but because they seemed to pick up on exactly what I find suspect in Echo’s vote. But then after the lynch that comment about one down, I don’t like it. I’m leaning slight bad right now on Bravo.
Charlie - civ
I don’t see anything suspect in his comment about Golf’s vote. We question things that looked forced all the time and I read his statement as that. And every single other post I’ve seen from charlie reads civ to me.
Echo - slight bad
I did not care for his entrance. His easy vote coupled with the way he responded to being called out looked all sorts of bad. Then his vote in the lynch. It looked like someone who really didn’t want to have to vote for a teammate so he tried to make me a viable option. If he suspected Golf as he claimed he should have just voted there and lobbied others to vote there too. Thatis how a civ would normally handle a lynch they fear they might lose. The reason I downgrade him to slight bad instead of full bad read is because of his point about Golf’s statement that someone is their hard town read, also his catching what Bravo said post lynch as well.
Foxtrot - slight civ
I expected to have a null read, but his one post with content was his vote post. He was seeing what I was seeing I think about Echo. I like that vote and reason. But I need more to move him to a solid civ read.
Hotel - civ
Despite rp Hotel has offered solid thoughts and seems to be legit scum hunting so I read them as solid civ right now.
India - null
Nothing to go on.
Juliet - slight bad
After reading through Juliet’s ISO, I have to agree that a lot of it looks forced to me. There was one thing though that looked like a natural suspicion and that was looking at Charlie and Echo as possible teammates. I don’t agree with the conclusion they come to, but I do like the look of this from Juliet. That’s what made me put them at slight bad instead of full bad.
Kilo - slight civ
Despite my current little back and forth with them over Echo’s treatment of me (possible tie here), I feel like I like Kilo’s look. Looks like legit scum hunting, though sometimes I disagree with their conclusions.
I’ve done a read through of the whole thread so far and this is where I currently stand
Alpha - civ
I like the look of the progression of his thoughts and votes. Early on his rp was a bit empty, but once pushed he moved into what looks fine like legit scum hunting.
Bravo - slight bad
I didn’t care for early votes placed with no reasoning offered. Not a good look. But I liked Bravo’s response to Echo’s vote on me. Not just because it was on me, but because they seemed to pick up on exactly what I find suspect in Echo’s vote. But then after the lynch that comment about one down, I don’t like it. I’m leaning slight bad right now on Bravo.
Charlie - civ
I don’t see anything suspect in his comment about Golf’s vote. We question things that looked forced all the time and I read his statement as that. And every single other post I’ve seen from charlie reads civ to me.
Echo - slight bad
I did not care for his entrance. His easy vote coupled with the way he responded to being called out looked all sorts of bad. Then his vote in the lynch. It looked like someone who really didn’t want to have to vote for a teammate so he tried to make me a viable option. If he suspected Golf as he claimed he should have just voted there and lobbied others to vote there too. Thatis how a civ would normally handle a lynch they fear they might lose. The reason I downgrade him to slight bad instead of full bad read is because of his point about Golf’s statement that someone is their hard town read, also his catching what Bravo said post lynch as well.
Foxtrot - slight civ
I expected to have a null read, but his one post with content was his vote post. He was seeing what I was seeing I think about Echo. I like that vote and reason. But I need more to move him to a solid civ read.
Hotel - civ
Despite rp Hotel has offered solid thoughts and seems to be legit scum hunting so I read them as solid civ right now.
India - null
Nothing to go on.
Juliet - slight bad
After reading through Juliet’s ISO, I have to agree that a lot of it looks forced to me. There was one thing though that looked like a natural suspicion and that was looking at Charlie and Echo as possible teammates. I don’t agree with the conclusion they come to, but I do like the look of this from Juliet. That’s what made me put them at slight bad instead of full bad.
Kilo - slight civ
Despite my current little back and forth with them over Echo’s treatment of me (possible tie here), I feel like I like Kilo’s look. Looks like legit scum hunting, though sometimes I disagree with their conclusions.
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Golf. It looked very much to me like Echo was trying to keep an avenue open for Golf until he didn’t think he could safely do that for himself any longer.
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I was going to take a look at possible teammate ties with Golf and everyone but I can’t be bothered. Too much work corn me and just not how my brain works.
Can anyone post an ISO list? I’m playing on my mobile and it’s a pita to find everyone’s ISOs.
Can anyone post an ISO list? I’m playing on my mobile and it’s a pita to find everyone’s ISOs.