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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:38 pm
by nutella
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:32 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:30 pm
Hot take tony and jack w/w
Tell me about Jacqueline Onassis of Heart
He's kinda buddied me already (lightly, with agreeing about you) which isn't too surprising since we recently hydraed together in a game on MU (and were scum) but I don't want to fall for it if he is scum. And uhhh I had reasons for linking him to Tony but I already forgot lol.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:39 pm
by nutella
Oh right because they both found mac's speed mistake suspicious where I just thought it was a brain fart lol.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:40 pm
by nutella
Or maybe it was deliberate bait, but I don't think so. Either way it was an easy thing to jump on and they both bit.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:42 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:40 pm
Or maybe it was deliberate bait, but I don't think so. Either way it was an easy thing to jump on and they both bit.
Yup I figure accidental bait.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:46 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:39 pm
Oh right because they both found mac's speed mistake suspicious where I just thought it was a brain fart lol.
There are words being put into my mouth here. I thought Mac was joking about us posting song lyrics. I noticed and laughed and said something. I guess read it as you want
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:49 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
ebwop
... read it as you want but don’t try to say that I’m saying anything that I’m not
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:50 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Dragomir
Creature
MacDougall
Long Con
Rej
nutella
sprityo
Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005
TonyStarkPrime
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:50 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:50 pm
Dragomir
Creature
MacDougall
Long Con
Rej
nutella
sprityo
Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005
TonyStarkPrime
What differentiates Jack and Drago for you?
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:52 pm
by nutella
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:50 pm
Dragomir
Creature
MacDougall
Long Con
Rej
nutella
sprityo
Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005
TonyStarkPrime
Wow replace my name with your own and I can pretty much agree.

Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:53 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:50 pm
What differentiates Jack and Drago for you?
I described why I believe Dragomir to be authentic
here. I don't have any such notion by which I can afford Jack credit. He piggy-backed on nutella's suspicion of me and my own trust of Dragomir, so he's got that blend-by-agreeableness vibe.
Why do you pair those two when you ask this question?
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:54 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:52 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:50 pm
Dragomir
Creature
MacDougall
Long Con
Rej
nutella
sprityo
Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005
TonyStarkPrime
Wow replace my name with your own and I can pretty much agree.
Same question as for JJJ I guess (don’t mention the Mac thing unless that’s really all)
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:56 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:53 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:50 pm
What differentiates Jack and Drago for you?
I described why I believe Dragomir to be authentic
here. I don't have any such notion by which I can afford Jack credit. He piggy-backed on nutella's suspicion of me and my own trust of Dragomir, so he's got that blend-by-agreeableness vibe.
Why do you pair those two when you ask this question?
Both of them had similar entrances with the same set of views (steaming a scum read of you mostly). I would probably have tiered them about the same
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:57 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:56 pm
Both of them had similar entrances with the same set of views (steaming a scum read of you mostly).
I would probably have tiered them about the same
Where does that tier reside on the civilian-mafia spectrum?
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:57 pm
by nutella
I don't see what you see similar about them. Drago is pure, Jack is a yes man.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:58 pm
by nutella
Ah you grouped them as both suspecting Jay. Drago came to it independently though while jack just sheeped me.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:08 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:58 pm
Ah you grouped them as both suspecting Jay. Drago came to it independently though while jack just sheeped me.
That’s worse. Scum puts in more effort. Drago came in, said something someone else had said, came up with basically the same reasoning, and that was it. I wouldn’t call that coming to it independently
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:09 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:57 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:56 pm
Both of them had similar entrances with the same set of views (steaming a scum read of you mostly).
I would probably have tiered them about the same
Where does that tier reside on the civilian-mafia spectrum?
Slight orange- moderate lean scum.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:13 pm
by nutella
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:08 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:58 pm
Ah you grouped them as both suspecting Jay. Drago came to it independently though while jack just sheeped me.
That’s worse. Scum puts in more effort. Drago came in, said something someone else had said, came up with basically the same reasoning, and that was it. I wouldn’t call that coming to it independently
You think he made up the reaction to seeing my post after the fact?
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:14 pm
by nutella
Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:44 pm
Oh wow, Nutella pretty much said exactly what I was thinking about Jay.
He said this after stating boldly that he suspected Jay, implying he hadn't seen my post when he made his original assertion.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:15 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:14 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:44 pm
Oh wow, Nutella pretty much said exactly what I was thinking about Jay.
He said this after stating boldly that he suspected Jay, implying he hadn't seen my post when he made his original assertion.
So if he had said this first without having said that he suspected Jay you’d suspect him equally to Jack?
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:21 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:30 pm
Hot take tony and jack w/w
Lol hot take Nutella town anyways.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:22 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I think Dragomir just looks more authentic than Jack looks independent of the timing of anything.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:24 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:37 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:29 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:25 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:23 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:22 pm
I mean I was literally parodying myself in that ISO.
Oh I got that, lol. I just found it suspicious rather than just trying to have fun. I can get behind fun. As long as it's not anti-town.
Hot take: Fun is inherently anti-alignment for whoever’s having it.
Lmao that's a very hot take that would prove mafia is a bad game, like literally bad at being a game bc games are supposed to be fun to do well at. Like I guess many games are stressful and people get a certain kind of pleasure from the stress though
I play a lot of board games at various levels of competition (I was at a point regional scholastic chess champion and I play mtg and heroclix at various competitive levels). When you’re playing at top levels it’s not “fun”, at least by the common sense. There’s still satisfaction, there’s still enjoyment, but it’s not “fun”. Mafia works the same way. When you’re competing, and like actually competing, it gets more stressful and the enjoyment isn’t from any sort of amusement even if to some people that can be a better experience.
FYI I’m a top level mafia player and on average roughly 50% of my content is jokes. So. You’re living your entire life incorrectly, bro.

Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:25 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:38 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:32 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:30 pm
Hot take tony and jack w/w
Tell me about Jacqueline Onassis of Heart
He's kinda buddied me already (lightly, with agreeing about you) which isn't too surprising since we recently hydraed together in a game on MU (and were scum) but I don't want to fall for it if he is scum. And uhhh I had reasons for linking him to Tony but I already forgot lol.
Probably cause we’re both so handsome.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:25 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:39 pm
Oh right because they both found mac's speed mistake suspicious where I just thought it was a brain fart lol.
I didn’t say it was suspicious. I want to know why he thought it.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:26 pm
by nutella
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:15 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:14 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:44 pm
Oh wow, Nutella pretty much said exactly what I was thinking about Jay.
He said this after stating boldly that he suspected Jay, implying he hadn't seen my post when he made his original assertion.
So if he had said this first without having said that he suspected Jay you’d suspect him equally to Jack?
Nah bc his other posts are pure as a heckin pupper.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:26 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:50 pm
Dragomir
Creature
MacDougall
Long Con
Rej
nutella
sprityo
Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005
TonyStarkPrime
Lol convenient.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:28 pm
by nutella
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:25 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:39 pm
Oh right because they both found mac's speed mistake suspicious where I just thought it was a brain fart lol.
I didn’t say it was suspicious. I want to know why he thought it.
Whatever, still pressing on it as a topic worth further attention, same diff.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:28 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:29 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:57 pm
I don't see what you see similar about them. Drago is pure, Jack is a yes man.
No I’m not.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:29 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
That your readlist is exactly Nutella’s.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:30 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:29 pm
That your readlist is exactly Nutella’s.
Did I steal it from her?
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:30 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:28 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:25 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:39 pm
Oh right because they both found mac's speed mistake suspicious where I just thought it was a brain fart lol.
I didn’t say it was suspicious. I want to know why he thought it.
Whatever, still pressing on it as a topic worth further attention, same diff.
It’s worth attention but shut up about it and let Mac speak for himself eh?
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:31 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:30 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:29 pm
That your readlist is exactly Nutella’s.
Did I steal it from her?
Maybe the last two bits.
Feels fake. Whatever.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:32 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:31 pm
Maybe the last two bits.
Feels fake. Whatever.
She can have credit for raising suspicion of you first at least!

Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:35 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:53 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:50 pm
What differentiates Jack and Drago for you?
I described why I believe Dragomir to be authentic
here. I don't have any such notion by which I can afford Jack credit. He piggy-backed on nutella's suspicion of me and my own trust of Dragomir, so he's got that blend-by-agreeableness vibe.
Why do you pair those two when you ask this question?
Honestly now. I’m the least blendy person always desperate for attention.
I wanna pull out Jack Frost gifs this game not Gilgamesh ones, faker.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:36 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:35 pm
Honestly now. I’m the least blendy person always desperate for attention.
One can blend while in the spotlight.

Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:36 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:57 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:56 pm
Both of them had similar entrances with the same set of views (steaming a scum read of you mostly).
I would probably have tiered them about the same
Where does that tier reside on the civilian-mafia spectrum?
Slight orange- moderate lean scum.

Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:38 pm
by Epignosis
nutella and JJJ are like Tom Brady and Antonio Brown.
Overachieving teammates who work for the devil.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:41 pm
by Dragomir
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:00 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:56 pm
Why?
For questioning Jay right away.
It’s less “this is Drago’s town meta” cause I don’t pretend to know that and more “this seems like a townie outlook.”
I don't understand the logic behind such a reason to conclude that a player is town. How does how fast I question Jay make things alignment indicative?
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:43 pm
by Dragomir
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:54 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:05 pm
It makes perfect sense after the scrimmage game for Dragomir to take that ISO seriously.
It doesn’t make sense for nutella to take it seriously.
The fuck you talking about even? We both
didn't take it seriously, that was the point? Like I know you're throwing shit at the wall man. You did it badly.
Wait what? What do you mean didn't take it seriously? You just made a post talking about how bad Jay's posts are and you're saying that they weren't serious?
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:43 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:35 pm
Honestly now. I’m the least blendy person always desperate for attention.
One can blend while in the spotlight.

Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:44 pm
by nutella
Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:43 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:54 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:05 pm
It makes perfect sense after the scrimmage game for Dragomir to take that ISO seriously.
It doesn’t make sense for nutella to take it seriously.
The fuck you talking about even? We both
didn't take it seriously, that was the point? Like I know you're throwing shit at the wall man. You did it badly.
Wait what? What do you mean didn't take it seriously? You just made a post talking about how bad Jay's posts are and you're saying that they weren't serious?
Don't worry about it, we're past that. There was a lot of misinterpretation of what "serious" meant and I don't really want to get back into it.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:45 pm
by Dragomir
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:05 pm
You can't just drop some jayish crap on d0 and expect to get credit for it. You have to actually care about the subsequent analysis and about actually finding scum. You don't.
>Nutella first says she didn't take it seriously
>Is taking Jay's posts very seriously in this post
Do you see the contradiction?
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:46 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:00 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:56 pm
Why?
For questioning Jay right away.
It’s less “this is Drago’s town meta” cause I don’t pretend to know that and more “this seems like a townie outlook.”
I don't understand the logic behind such a reason to conclude that a player is town. How does how fast I question Jay make things alignment indicative?
Just take what I give you okay?
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:47 pm
by Dragomir
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:44 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:43 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:54 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:05 pm
It makes perfect sense after the scrimmage game for Dragomir to take that ISO seriously.
It doesn’t make sense for nutella to take it seriously.
The fuck you talking about even? We both
didn't take it seriously, that was the point? Like I know you're throwing shit at the wall man. You did it badly.
Wait what? What do you mean didn't take it seriously? You just made a post talking about how bad Jay's posts are and you're saying that they weren't serious?
Don't worry about it, we're past that. There was a lot of misinterpretation of what "serious" meant and I don't really want to get back into it.
Why not? Would you rather I be left running with confused thoughts that make me lean to you being mafia?
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:48 pm
by Dragomir
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:46 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:00 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:56 pm
Why?
For questioning Jay right away.
It’s less “this is Drago’s town meta” cause I don’t pretend to know that and more “this seems like a townie outlook.”
I don't understand the logic behind such a reason to conclude that a player is town. How does how fast I question Jay make things alignment indicative?
Just take what I give you okay?
Let me understand you at least.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:49 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:00 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:56 pm
Why?
For questioning Jay right away.
It’s less “this is Drago’s town meta” cause I don’t pretend to know that and more “this seems like a townie outlook.”
I don't understand the logic behind such a reason to conclude that a player is town. How does how fast I question Jay make things alignment indicative?
Just take what I give you okay?
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:49 pm
by Epignosis
Dragomir is like Christian McCaffery. My favorite player right now. Doing work.
Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:49 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Oh. I thought I had a linki