The Syndicate

Posted: **Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:54 pm**

tbh I thought the "guy who tends to get himself lynched all on his own" was a reference to Dom.

Posted: **Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:05 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:54 pm tbh I thought the "guy who tends to get himself lynched all on his own" was a reference to Dom.

I thought it was too.

Posted: **Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:22 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:53 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:51 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:48 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:34 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:04 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:58 pm

You're mafia.
No you.

If I was mafia, I wouldn’t start the game with a push on a guy who tends to get himself lynched all on his own.
I don’t see why not.

[VOTE: Jackuvfarts] aubergine
Seriously. When is the last time DF wasn’t just “resolved” by the town without anyone even scumreading him?

I’m trying to for once have a read on him before it gets to that point. That starts with him posting.
And I appreciate that. But it doesn't necessitate town jack in this game right now.
And wolf Jack doesn’t need to do it either.

Glad we agree it’s nai at worst. So why are you voting me, mate?
Because we're 12 hours into Day 1 and nothing else is happening. Why are you concerned?

Cause I’m trying to read you.

And also because I forgot you throw your vote around like a frisbee.

Posted: **Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:22 pm**

Not everyone has checked in yet. I hope that changes by tomorrow morning (IRL time).

Epi has me confused. Does he think I’m civ or did he write the wrong name down? Not a sus issue; just a point of clarification.

It’s too early yet for me to have any thoughts. I’ll give the full thread a re-read tomorrow over raisin bran and apple cinnamon cheerios.

In the meantime, all these acronyms and different terms remind me of this scene from Gilligan’s Island:

Posted: **Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:24 pm**

Hey everyone! I hope we're not all acting Australian somehow, because I don't know how to do that and I'd end up going Crocodile Dundee.

Posted: **Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:29 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:24 pm Hey everyone! I hope we're not all acting Australian somehow, because I don't know how to do that and I'd end up going Crocodile Dundee.

Now that’s freaky.

Posted: **Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:12 pm**

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:23 am Now that the game has begun in earnest, I have a few questions:

1) Can anyone give me a rundown of what's normal to expect from Lady LambdaDelta, Michelle, sabie12, and TonyStarkPrime? I played one or two games with Sabie, but that was a while ago. I may have played once with Tony, but I will have to go back and check the master spreadsheet. The other two are new to me. Are these usually talkative or quiet? How they cool, calm, and collected, or are they more emotional with their posts? I don't want their newness to me leaving me focused too much on the devils I know.

2) When do most of you see yourselves as able to vote in the poll? Given that the game is running on some form of Australia time, how can we best structure our discussions? There's an awful lot of overnight for many of us right before the deadline. Let's not fall into the trap of delay and panic. We must also be careful to watch out for late phase manipulation for the same time zone reasons. We cannot just make a hard push in the North American time zones in the evening and just assume things will remain the same the final hours while we sleep. Vigilance, folks. Vigilance.

3) Since both @Dom and @Quin are both playing another murder mystery game set in Australia, are we going to see an epic sequel to their Mad Max dueling? :grin

G!!!

I'm pretty unfamiliar with the newbs too. But Mad Max brought back some good memories.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:23 am G-man self meta is lame so I will let Jack to talk about my meta, I played with him more than with the others, as both alignaments.

I like this post.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:55 pm I’m going to [VOTE: Dom] aubergine and see what happens.

All the players I’m least confident in reading aren’t here yet.

the fuck?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:03 pm Dom is easy though

Don't talk about my personal life like that.

...y'all are obsessed with me.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:28 pm @DFaraday

You have a history of missing day phases and ending games with under 10 posts. I understand that irl stuff happens but It has become a pattern.

I would absolutely love to play a mafia game with you but that’s going to require you to play a mafia game with me as well.

Please post.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that was

-ing this post.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:54 pm tbh I thought the "guy who tends to get himself lynched all on his own" was a reference to Dom.

which dom do you play with?

Posted: **Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:16 pm**

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:54 pm tbh I thought the "guy who tends to get himself lynched all on his own" was a reference to Dom.
which dom do you play with?

I should clarify that I thought jack was talking about you because that's where his vote was. I have no comment on whether or not I would agree with that assessment of you.

Posted: **Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:22 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:16 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:54 pm tbh I thought the "guy who tends to get himself lynched all on his own" was a reference to Dom.
which dom do you play with?
I should clarify that I thought jack was talking about you because that's where his vote was. I have no comment on whether or not I would agree with that assessment of you.

So you commented on something you have no comment on?

Posted: **Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:23 pm**

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:16 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:54 pm tbh I thought the "guy who tends to get himself lynched all on his own" was a reference to Dom.
which dom do you play with?
I should clarify that I thought jack was talking about you because that's where his vote was. I have no comment on whether or not I would agree with that assessment of you.
So you commented on something you have no comment on?

I clarified my position so as to not be mistaken for commenting on that which I have made no comment on.

Posted: **Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:24 pm**

[mention]Dom[/mention]

Why is that post suspicious?

Posted: **Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:25 pm**

Dom doesn’t get himself lynched.

When was the last time Dom got lynched at all? DF gets lynched practically every game.

Posted: **Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:32 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:24 pm @Dom

Why is that post suspicious?

What was your aim?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:25 pm Dom doesn’t get himself lynched.

When was the last time Dom got lynched at all? DF gets lynched practically every game.

I'm unclear as to what you point is.

Posted: **Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:55 pm**

...yeah jack prodding DF this much is nagl

.....sorry acronyms

(not a good look)

Posted: **Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:57 pm**

Jack is the nazgul?

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:00 am**

Why is Jack’s behavior Not A Good Look?

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:07 am**

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:32 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:24 pm @Dom

Why is that post suspicious?
What was your aim?
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:25 pm Dom doesn’t get himself lynched.

When was the last time Dom got lynched at all? DF gets lynched practically every game.
I'm unclear as to what you point is.

To get DF to post. Because he doesn’t. And I don’t want to roll the dice on his alignment. I want him to play.

Again, why is it suspicious?

My point is two people said they though I was talking about you and I wasn’t. Clearing that up.

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:07 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:55 pm ...yeah jack prodding DF this much is nagl

.....sorry acronyms

(not a good look)

Um...why is that exactly?

Cause it was once.

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:09 am**

It's like you haven't decided whether you're buddying him or pushing for his lunch, you're bjust looking for someone easy to talk about

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:17 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:09 am It's like you haven't decided whether you're buddying him or pushing for his lunch, you're bjust looking for someone easy to talk about

Oh? It’s easy to talk about the guy who averages less than a post a day?

Four people have given me shit for a single post wherein I asked DF to please play. I’m quite a bit more interested in talking about that.

I need you to do me a favor, Nutella. Since I’m good at reading you and you’ve already said two misleading things and it’s only D1, here’s what I’d like you to do. Go to your discord or your chatzy and ask your friends to remind you which townie here is unlynchable.

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:20 am**

Why would I fucking buddy DF even if I was a wolf? There’s only about a 25% chance he even votes today.

I don’t believe you believe the things you are saying.

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:42 am**

LIke I said I don't know if you were buddying him or not. But it was a very strange post and felt uncharacteristic of you.

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:49 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:42 am LIke I said I don't know if you were buddying him or not. But it was a very strange post and felt uncharacteristic of you.

Why would you think I was buddying him?

Is it because I didn’t just say “Hey DF. Play or replace out cause I’m sick of you not really playing?”

I try to be nice sometimes.

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:50 am**

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:24 pm Hey everyone! I hope we're not all acting Australian somehow, because I don't know how to do that and I'd end up going Crocodile Dundee.

Because this is his only post and it’s nothing at all.

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:51 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:49 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:42 am LIke I said I don't know if you were buddying him or not. But it was a very strange post and felt uncharacteristic of you.
Why would you think I was buddying him?

Is it because I didn’t just say “Hey DF. Play or replace out cause I’m sick of you not really playing?”

I try to be nice sometimes.

Idk cause you're a pocket monster

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:51 am**

Gotta catch em all

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:59 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:51 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:49 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:42 am LIke I said I don't know if you were buddying him or not. But it was a very strange post and felt uncharacteristic of you.
Why would you think I was buddying him?

Is it because I didn’t just say “Hey DF. Play or replace out cause I’m sick of you not really playing?”

I try to be nice sometimes.
Idk cause you're a pocket monster

Ydk cause you’re a wolf.

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:05 am**

Lol nah

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:17 am**

Jack is never this out of character as scum I think. I also tend to be able to sort him out by day 3 unless I die so as always not lynching him

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:19 am**

I haven’t played a game with a setup like this is a while lemme recap for myself. Three bad lynches allowed, find scum within six days.

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:32 am**

morning evreyone ^^

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:23 pm @Michelle it's a shame you haven't gotten to play with Ricochet, he's our other Romanian

maybe he will come and play one day

I never played irl and never in other language than english. which is a shame for my creativity

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:35 am**

did I understood correct, Jack is suspicious because he pinged a low poster to play?

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:41 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:35 am did I understood correct, Jack is suspicious because he pinged a low poster to play?

well, and because of how he played it off after the fact. his wording was inconsistent, it seems like he was implying he was pushing some lynch pressure onto DF when that implication had not really been present in the original post. I was just confused by the whole thing and why any of it existed

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:43 am**

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:39 pm nah, jack is fair dinkum right now.

google said you think Jack is honest, is that correct?

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:49 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:43 am
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:39 pm nah, jack is fair dinkum right now.
google said you think Jack is honest, is that correct?

nah yeah he's a good bloke i reckon

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:54 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:41 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:35 am did I understood correct, Jack is suspicious because he pinged a low poster to play?
well, and because of how he played it off after the fact. his wording was inconsistent, it seems like he was implying he was pushing some lynch pressure onto DF when that implication had not really been present in the original post. I was just confused by the whole thing and why any of it existed

I am pinging myself on my homesite everyone to post tbh so that looked rather good for me.

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:59 am**

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:49 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:43 am
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:39 pm nah, jack is fair dinkum right now.
google said you think Jack is honest, is that correct?
nah yeah he's a good bloke i reckon

ay you're Crocodile Dundee indeed -_-

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:03 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:11 pm As scum, Michelle never seems to want it more. As town, she sometimes does just a bit too late.

the only 2 games when I really tried as scum I played with you lol

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:20 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:13 pm I also have identified a specific town tell from Michelle from the few games I have played with her, will see if it happens

mind to share it? I can't observe myself very well.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:19 am I haven’t played a game with a setup like this is a while lemme recap for myself. Three bad lynches allowed, find scum within six days.

doing the math in day 1? You are usually counting how many mislynches are needed for a scum win?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:17 am Jack is never this out of character as scum I think. I also tend to be able to sort him out by day 3 unless I die so as always not lynching him

why was Jack out if character?

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:26 am**

work time for me, i'll be back

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:52 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:09 am It's like you haven't decided whether you're buddying him or pushing for his lunch, you're bjust looking for someone easy to talk about

Someone easy to talk about. That rings true. [VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:54 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:50 am [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:24 pm Hey everyone! I hope we're not all acting Australian somehow, because I don't know how to do that and I'd end up going Crocodile Dundee.
Because this is his only post and it’s nothing at all.

Hey, don't vote me! We're voting Jack.

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:55 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:53 pm
DFaraday wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:51 pm Cheers, dingoes ate my baby, didgeridoo!

I can’t read anyone so I’m not going to pretend to try.
what're you gonna do instead?

Hopefully play the way I used to: Look at inconsistencies in players' statements, observe voting patterns (if I live that long), and examine how effects of role abilities could be linked to specific players.

My initial comment meant "I can't read anyone's meta." I've never been any good at differentiating a player's town game from their scum game, so I mostly just approach every player on a game by game basis.

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:55 am**

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:56 am**

DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:55 amMy initial comment meant "I can't read anyone's meta." I've never been any good at differentiating a player's town game from their scum game, so I mostly just approach every player on a game by game basis.

Me too, man! Wanna bro it up?

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:02 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:04 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:28 pm @DFaraday

You have a history of missing day phases and ending games with under 10 posts. I understand that irl stuff happens but It has become a pattern.

I would absolutely love to play a mafia game with you but that’s going to require you to play a mafia game with me as well.

Please post.
You're mafia.
No you.

If I was mafia, I wouldn’t start the game with a push on a guy who tends to get himself lynched all on his own.

Why wouldn't you? In a game with so few players, nearly all of which are vanilla, every town vote is significant. The usual approach of leaving me for late game won't fly here, since in a few phases I could conceivably pop back in after a hiatus and cast a deciding vote. It might be a better approach for the Mafia to go for a softball right out of the gate to get a jump on the numbers without really putting themselves on the line in the way they might in trying to fabricate a case on a more prominent player.

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:04 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:56 am
DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:55 amMy initial comment meant "I can't read anyone's meta." I've never been any good at differentiating a player's town game from their scum game, so I mostly just approach every player on a game by game basis.
Me too, man! Wanna bro it up?

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:12 am**

After catching up, I don't feel super strong about most of the field so far, but Nutella is a standout as seeming towny to me. She's offering thoughts on a lot of players, asking questions, not being waffly.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:20 am Why would I fucking buddy DF even if I was a wolf? There’s only about a 25% chance he even votes today.

I don’t believe you believe the things you are saying.

Gonna go ahead and vote [VOTE: Jack] aubergine for now.

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:26 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:54 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:50 am [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:24 pm Hey everyone! I hope we're not all acting Australian somehow, because I don't know how to do that and I'd end up going Crocodile Dundee.
Because this is his only post and it’s nothing at all.
Hey, don't vote me! We're voting Jack.

lol I wanted to question your sheeping of me but this is legit, you can have a townread

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:30 am**

DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:02 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:04 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:28 pm @DFaraday

You have a history of missing day phases and ending games with under 10 posts. I understand that irl stuff happens but It has become a pattern.

I would absolutely love to play a mafia game with you but that’s going to require you to play a mafia game with me as well.

Please post.
You're mafia.
No you.

If I was mafia, I wouldn’t start the game with a push on a guy who tends to get himself lynched all on his own.
Why wouldn't you? In a game with so few players, nearly all of which are vanilla, every town vote is significant. The usual approach of leaving me for late game won't fly here, since in a few phases I could conceivably pop back in after a hiatus and cast a deciding vote. It might be a better approach for the Mafia to go for a softball right out of the gate to get a jump on the numbers without really putting themselves on the line in the way they might in trying to fabricate a case on a more prominent player.

yeah. this is why "mislynch bait"/going after low-hanging fruit is a problem. it almost always ends up in the scum's favor

but I still feel like my initial concern wasn't even answered. Jack were you "pushing" DF with the post or not?

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