The Syndicate

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:36 pm**

My role secret is that I love each and every one of you very much.

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:39 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:36 pm My role secret is that I love each and every one of you very much.

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:41 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:36 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:25 pm Also third times the charm, creature has to be civ in this game and sloonie has to be mafia
There are 15 civs this game though?

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:47 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:23 am It was only a matter of time before battle royale formats conquered the mafia forums as well

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:49 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:56 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:51 am so monokuma is the bad guy?
Monokumka inflicts despair on one role each night, which looks basically like "recruit them to the Mafia", I think.

Yea I'd say Monokumka hereby dubbed bearo is a chaotic third party which does probably make the mafia team. But has another goal.

I do find it curious for people saying we should lynch Bearo since my understanding is he's unlyncable. I also agree with the people who are against lynching and am eyeing jack for saying we should lynch people.

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:49 pm**

This game could get wifomy real quick

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:52 pm**

Just Monokuma doesn't pull the trigger himself, he uses culted people to shoot.
So the Cultafia has a faction killer performing a kill with the performer being another recruit each time?
How do they kill? it just says "the recruited people basically have to kill ONE player then survive". If that's their wincon then how do they obtain a nightkill or do they have to cause a mislynch?

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:54 pm**

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:39 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:36 pm My role secret is that I love each and every one of you very much.

I know, I know. Not much of a secret.

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:12 pm**

I think the main puzzle is whether Monokuma is lynchable or not. The setup says he is unkillable, but says nothing about lynchable. The stuff about him being "found" does suggest what would happen after a flip, though. COuld mean he flips when he is hit with a night kill, but could also mean a lynch. Or being correctly guessed by a specific player.

If he is lynchable, then it's worth it to try to lynch someone Day 1, because this is a cult game and cults are dealt with by taking down the cult leader ASAP.

If he is unlynchable, then the expected value of the lynch depends on whether lynching him makes us gain anything. It has to be something very good though, to justify a 1/16 chance at missing.

I don't know.

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:24 pm**

Our objective is to find the recruited students, which I assume there are none of yet, but we don't know that for sure

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:42 pm**

If the game starts on Day 1, I’ll assume that we have something to do.

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:18 pm**

It's all Montezuma this, Montezuma that. Who gives a shit? Pick someone at random and get on with it.

Also just so everyone knows, I refuse to post anything about killing students.

FYI

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:54 pm**

hello i had not realized it started

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:55 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:18 pm It's all Montezuma this, Montezuma that. Who gives a shit? Pick someone at random and get on with it.

Also just so everyone knows, I refuse to post anything about killing students.

FYI

Same !

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:28 pm**

Day 1 - To Survive

And with that the bear disappears as quickly as he had appeared. You are left to wonder what exactly is going on.

Day 1 Starts now and ends in 24 hours or 0230 GMT

Alive:
1. Dragon D. Luffy
2. Trustworthy Liberal
3. Rej
4. sig
5. Macdougall
6. Fayt
7. TonyStarkPrime
8. Jackofhearts2005
9. Long Con
10. Dom
11. tedxtr
12. Epignosis
13. Okosan
14. Sloonei
15. Creature
16. Turnip Head

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:53 pm**

What do now?

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:56 pm**

idk

Do we know if someone was recruited or not?

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:02 pm**

Chose at random and got tedxtr.

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:04 pm**

All of you:

Pick somebody.

Vote.

Hope.

Stop acting like you can figure something out. You can't. Move on.

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:05 pm**

At this point, we should lynch someone or not lynch someone.

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:17 pm**

My point is stop discussing nonsense you won't know.

Throw votes on the board. Move them around. Make Montezuma uncomfortable.

Who gives a shit who ends up lynched? Just go. Do.

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:52 pm**

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:30 am**

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:31 am**

As a friendly reminder

If you die, you don’t win

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:34 am**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:17 pm My point is stop discussing nonsense you won't know.

Throw votes on the board. Move them around. Make Montezuma uncomfortable.

Who gives a shit who ends up lynched? Just go. Do.

I don’t feel like I should have to explain to you how a player base of 15 townies and 1 (probably) unlynchable wolf doesn’t lead to much in the way of good outcomes for a lynch.

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:35 am**

No lynch doesn’t appear to be an option though.

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:05 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:35 am No lynch doesn’t appear to be an option though.

It would appear that our only option is to lynch then

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:14 am**

[v] Mac [/v]

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:15 am**

[VOTE: MacDougall ] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:00 am**

[VOTE: ted] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:36 am**

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:53 am**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:04 pm All of you:

Pick somebody.

Vote.

Hope.

Stop acting like you can figure something out. You can't. Move on.

Epi = jester
[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:15 am**

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:53 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:04 pm All of you:

Pick somebody.

Vote.

Hope.

Stop acting like you can figure something out. You can't. Move on.
Epi = jester
[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Then why are you voting for him at all?

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:21 am**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:15 am
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:53 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:04 pm All of you:

Pick somebody.

Vote.

Hope.

Stop acting like you can figure something out. You can't. Move on.
Epi = jester
[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Then why are you voting for him at all?

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine

better than kicking out a civ

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:34 am**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:12 pm I think the main puzzle is whether Monokuma is lynchable or not. The setup says he is unkillable, but says nothing about lynchable. The stuff about him being "found" does suggest what would happen after a flip, though. COuld mean he flips when he is hit with a night kill, but could also mean a lynch. Or being correctly guessed by a specific player.

If he is lynchable, then it's worth it to try to lynch someone Day 1, because this is a cult game and cults are dealt with by taking down the cult leader ASAP.

If he is unlynchable, then the expected value of the lynch depends on whether lynching him makes us gain anything. It has to be something very good though, to justify a 1/16 chance at missing.

I don't know.

I think he need to be lynched to progress the game. I don’t think he dies right away in this case. Games that can end on day 1 aren’t fun

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:35 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:05 pm At this point, we should lynch someone or not lynch someone.

There are a lot of ways to gain information in the setup.

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:36 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:20 am Or, there could be a single mafia that carries out the kill because it would be weird not to have a night kill. Not sure if the processing the night kill the same time you were converted is viable, but it’s definitely worth considering.

On D1 we should no-lynch, discuss.

Wrong.

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:40 am**

Cooo! (So to vote do we use the poll at the top or just manually write it or what? Still new to this site)

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:41 am**

I’m fairly certain this is like a 1 in 5.

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:43 am**

Okosan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:40 am Cooo! (So to vote do we use the poll at the top or just manually write it or what? Still new to this site)

Generally people manually enter it with the [VOTE: [/qvote] tag but the poll is what counts.] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:43 am**

Rip that didn’t work

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:47 am**

Let's all make 2-2-2-2-2 whatever wagons and let it RNG.

The gods of town that are watching from above will award us with the bear lynch

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:51 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:47 am Let's all make 2-2-2-2-2 whatever wagons and let it RNG.

The gods of town that are watching from above will award us with the bear lynch

Cooooo! (Alright Monukuma. Ties are broken by Kiyotaka Ishimaru but it's cool you want to know who that is)

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:54 am**

oh wait you're right

but i don't get how me being monokuma and someone deciding a tie gives me the tie decider on a silver platter?

i guess it does only if it's in a 2 person scenario but i suggested a lot more wagons

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:54 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:47 am Let's all make 2-2-2-2-2 whatever wagons and let it RNG.

The gods of town that are watching from above will award us with the bear lynch

Tedextrr is too aggressive to be the bear cross him off the list

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:56 am**

Cooo! COO! (Test vote)

[VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:58 am**

Cooo! (Cool Okosan got it)

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:00 am**

Okosan, answer my question or I’ll let loose atcha

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:02 am**

Coooooo! (If we make 8, 2 vote wagons it gives narrows the tie breaker to 2 different people regardless of who gets lynched. That being the tie breaker and whoever else voted with them. Unless Okosan is misunderstanding that and the tie breaker gets to choose after all the votes are cast or something, but that seems incorrect)

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:07 am**

COO! (Plus it's probably better to vote actual susses and not let it RNG in the first place. We know we're all town right now except for Monokuma (or if there's a secret in play to be fair) so why not push people we find suspicious and see if their views change later for no reason?)

Coooooo! (Also is there not a no lynch option? Okosan doesn't see one in the poll. Just curious in case we decide to go that route (though Okosan still thinks we shouldn't tbh) )

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