falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:47 pm
Why would I slide them into my town reads? I don't believe claiming a role in an open setup in the first few hours of the game is towny. Why should I keep quiet? You think Maf didn't notice?
so why was your first response to pressure him to out specifics about his role if you think he's fakeclaiming
Time to celebrate w/ some Gray Goose & Russian Prince
Re: Baby Mafia (D1)
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:51 pm
by DrWilgy
Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:48 pm
Not a fan of the shade that Wigly is throwing around so throwing some in that direction.
Luckbox makes no sense
Would you rather me sit here?
Catch no bad babies?
Re: Baby Mafia (D1)
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:51 pm
by Dyslexicon
Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:48 pm
Not a fan of the shade that Wigly is throwing around so throwing some in that direction.
I'm a fan. =p
Re: Baby Mafia (D1)
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:52 pm
by Millium
Also let's say they actually claimed a role? What context assumes they are being malicious and not trying to maybe eat a night kill? I'd rather just read them on continuing posts before I decide they were trying to ghost the thread with a possible PR claim for easy town reads
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:47 pm
Why would I slide them into my town reads? I don't believe claiming a role in an open setup in the first few hours of the game is towny. Why should I keep quiet? You think Maf didn't notice?
so why was your first response to pressure him to out specifics about his role if you think he's fakeclaiming
Its an open setup, there's only 2 roles possible. He's the one who claimed, under no pressure btw, so he may as well just come clean if he is in fact what he claims.
Why are you acting like it's more complicated than that? Again, your reasoning doesn't really make sense from a town perspective
Re: Baby Mafia (D1)
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:54 pm
by Dyslexicon
Gira wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:48 pm
well, i have no particular desire to get into the towncore of someone i have no read on in the first 2 hours of day 1, that sort of thing isn't interesting to me
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:47 pm
Why would I slide them into my town reads? I don't believe claiming a role in an open setup in the first few hours of the game is towny. Why should I keep quiet? You think Maf didn't notice?
so why was your first response to pressure him to out specifics about his role if you think he's fakeclaiming
Its an open setup, there's only 2 roles possible. He's the one who claimed, under no pressure btw, so he may as well just come clean if he is in fact what he claims.
Why are you acting like it's more complicated than that? Again, your reasoning doesn't really make sense from a town perspective
Actually, it is more complicated than that.
Cause town and mafia fake claim shit all the time.
We just played a game where both town and mafia did.
Lucky claiming means nothing.
There's no need to pressure him about it or try to make him out his role further than what he has already stated.
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:47 pm
Why would I slide them into my town reads? I don't believe claiming a role in an open setup in the first few hours of the game is towny. Why should I keep quiet? You think Maf didn't notice?
so why was your first response to pressure him to out specifics about his role if you think he's fakeclaiming
Its an open setup, there's only 2 roles possible. He's the one who claimed, under no pressure btw, so he may as well just come clean if he is in fact what he claims.
Why are you acting like it's more complicated than that? Again, your reasoning doesn't really make sense from a town perspective
Actually, it is more complicated than that.
Cause town and mafia fake claim shit all the time.
We just played a game where both town and mafia did.
Lucky claiming means nothing.
There's no need to pressure him about it or try to make him out his role further than what he has already stated.
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:47 pm
Why would I slide them into my town reads? I don't believe claiming a role in an open setup in the first few hours of the game is towny. Why should I keep quiet? You think Maf didn't notice?
so why was your first response to pressure him to out specifics about his role if you think he's fakeclaiming
Its an open setup, there's only 2 roles possible. He's the one who claimed, under no pressure btw, so he may as well just come clean if he is in fact what he claims.
Why are you acting like it's more complicated than that? Again, your reasoning doesn't really make sense from a town perspective
okay but you just said you don't think it's towny
so why would you care at all
the necessity to "coming clean" implies the perspective that he could be making that statement as town
further, why would specifically outing be necessary at all rather than letting mafia take a guess as whether he's claiming for real or wifoming them
the pressure there from you doesn't make sense
Re: Baby Mafia (D1)
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:57 pm
by Millium
Where is this claim? Can someone quote it?
Re: Baby Mafia (D1)
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:59 pm
by Dyslexicon
Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:57 pm
Where is this claim? Can someone quote it?
The claim literally doesn't matter. He would do it as any role in this setup, just like me.
Gira wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:48 pm
well, i have no particular desire to get into the towncore of someone i have no read on in the first 2 hours of day 1, that sort of thing isn't interesting to me
Disappoint.
i don't want to seem easy by accepting this fast
Re: Baby Mafia (D1)
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:01 pm
by Dyslexicon
Gira wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:59 pmi don't want to seem easy by accepting this fast
Fun fact: Scum are more likely to decline invitations for town core or alliances early on than town are in my experience.
Gira wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:59 pmi don't want to seem easy by accepting this fast
Fun fact: Scum are more likely to decline invitations for town core or alliances early on than town are in my experience.
huh, dang, and here i declined thinking you were expecting the exact opposite of that
yes, this is a very self-aware post
So you declined in order for me to town read you? You straight up an EVUL BABBY, Gira?
i would say i assumed the thing was an attempt to gauge my reactions and responded in a way i assumed was expected, thereby making my response exactly null, especially as i am admitting to this in-thread
Re: Baby Mafia (D1)
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:11 pm
by Gira
anyway likin' luckbox so far, silly early games feels but it's something
that's all from me for a while
Re: Baby Mafia (D1)
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:12 pm
by Dyslexicon
Gira wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:09 pmi would say i assumed the thing was an attempt to gauge my reactions and responded in a way i assumed was expected, thereby making my response exactly null, especially as i am admitting to this in-thread
But this makes me suspect you and I don't want to.
More relevantly, it really is that time of the year where I get the urge to rewatch Twin Peaks, isn't ut huh
Gira wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:59 pmi don't want to seem easy by accepting this fast
Fun fact: Scum are more likely to decline invitations for town core or alliances early on than town are in my experience.
huh, dang, and here i declined thinking you were expecting the exact opposite of that
yes, this is a very self-aware post
So you declined in order for me to town read you? You straight up an EVUL BABBY, Gira?
i would say i assumed the thing was an attempt to gauge my reactions and responded in a way i assumed was expected, thereby making my response exactly null, especially as i am admitting to this in-thread
But this would imply
You fret about the response
Even if it's null
Re: Baby Mafia (D1)
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:13 pm
by Dyslexicon
Gira wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:11 pm
anyway likin' luckbox so far, silly early games feels but it's something
that's all from me for a while
Yaaaas!
I know I said I suspected you, but that is only from obligation.
I have a feeling you may have randed town here, and I hope that is true.
Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:57 pm
Where is this claim? Can someone quote it?
The claim literally doesn't matter. He would do it as any role in this setup, just like me.
I just want to see the post, Jesus
U don't have to tell me what is irrelevant or not, I have already been taken a more middle ground approach around posts calling out the said claim. I was under the impression, that is was more of a soft not a claim. And again it doesn't really matter, I just want to post, for reference, please and thank you
Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:57 pm
Where is this claim? Can someone quote it?
The claim literally doesn't matter. He would do it as any role in this setup, just like me.
I just want to see the post, Jesus
U don't have to tell me what is irrelevant or not, I have already been taken a more middle ground approach around posts calling out the said claim. I was under the impression, that is was more of a soft not a claim. And again it doesn't really matter, I just want to post, for reference, please and thank you
I didn't mean to be annoying, that is just a byproduct of being in a mafia game. I'm sorry for that.
In fact, I checked, and it looks like Lucky didn't actually claim anything at all, but that Falcon derived from what Lucky said that he had "a role". (We all have a role, but the implication being that it's a power role). I don't think it says anything about Lucky's actual role. It may say something about Falcon's alignment, which is what Gira is investigating, it looks like.
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:47 pm
Why would I slide them into my town reads? I don't believe claiming a role in an open setup in the first few hours of the game is towny. Why should I keep quiet? You think Maf didn't notice?
so why was your first response to pressure him to out specifics about his role if you think he's fakeclaiming
Its an open setup, there's only 2 roles possible. He's the one who claimed, under no pressure btw, so he may as well just come clean if he is in fact what he claims.
Why are you acting like it's more complicated than that? Again, your reasoning doesn't really make sense from a town perspective
Actually, it is more complicated than that.
Cause town and mafia fake claim shit all the time.
We just played a game where both town and mafia did.
Lucky claiming means nothing.
There's no need to pressure him about it or try to make him out his role further than what he has already stated.
So the question is fair: Why are you doing that?
I disagree. If player's want to make claims, then they should make the claim, not soft around the edges.
Again, HE claimed w/ no pressure, and now you think he shouldn't be pressured to elaborate so we can deal with the info? Yeah, not buying it
Re: Baby Mafia (D1)
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:21 pm
by Dyslexicon
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:20 pmAgain, HE claimed w/ no pressure, and now you think he shouldn't be pressured to elaborate so we can deal with the info? Yeah, not buying it
But he didn't even claim. You just said that he should claim lol.
Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:57 pm
Where is this claim? Can someone quote it?
The claim literally doesn't matter. He would do it as any role in this setup, just like me.
I just want to see the post, Jesus
U don't have to tell me what is irrelevant or not, I have already been taken a more middle ground approach around posts calling out the said claim. I was under the impression, that is was more of a soft not a claim. And again it doesn't really matter, I just want to post, for reference, please and thank you
I didn't mean to be annoying, that is just a byproduct of being in a mafia game. I'm sorry for that.
In fact, I checked, and it looks like Lucky didn't actually claim anything at all, but that Falcon derived from what Lucky said that he had "a role". (We all have a role, but the implication being that it's a power role). I don't think it says anything about Lucky's actual role. It may say something about Falcon's alignment, which is what Gira is investigating, it looks like.
Ahh, that's what I thought as well, thanks for clarifying though, and no worries
It's an open setup, so it's not like you can hide what your role is. Why did you claim this early?
this is all so intriguing, but I pretty much 100% claim power villager in any role fwiw
I do think this is actually lean town indicative even if they aren’t PR because baiting yourself early in a game like this is a smart play.
While it can come from scum I’m gonna lean them town for now due to their actions here.
Re: Baby Mafia (D1)
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:22 pm
by Gavial
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:16 pm
Let's wagon a town player.
[VOTE:
Falcon] aubergine
This post makes me want to vote you.
Re: Baby Mafia (D1)
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:22 pm
by Dyslexicon
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:20 pmI disagree. If player's want to make claims, then they should make the claim, not soft around the edges.
Also, this is all good and well to say. But people joke claim, cover claim, wifom claim etc all the time. What are you going to do about it? Policy vote and not solve the game? I think not.
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:47 pm
Why would I slide them into my town reads? I don't believe claiming a role in an open setup in the first few hours of the game is towny. Why should I keep quiet? You think Maf didn't notice?
so why was your first response to pressure him to out specifics about his role if you think he's fakeclaiming
Its an open setup, there's only 2 roles possible. He's the one who claimed, under no pressure btw, so he may as well just come clean if he is in fact what he claims.
Why are you acting like it's more complicated than that? Again, your reasoning doesn't really make sense from a town perspective
okay but you just said you don't think it's towny
so why would you care at all
the necessity to "coming clean" implies the perspective that he could be making that statement as town
further, why would specifically outing be necessary at all rather than letting mafia take a guess as whether he's claiming for real or wifoming them
the pressure there from you doesn't make sense
Oh, well you see Town don't have info...they're trying to get info. So asking for more info is what I'm doing, and I care cuz' I'm town.
Yeah, he could be town. That's why I want more info, and that's why I'm pressuring him...for info. Cuz town ya know...don't have that.
Gira wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:48 pm
well, i have no particular desire to get into the towncore of someone i have no read on in the first 2 hours of day 1, that sort of thing isn't interesting to me
Gira wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:48 pm
well, i have no particular desire to get into the towncore of someone i have no read on in the first 2 hours of day 1, that sort of thing isn't interesting to me
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:20 pmI disagree. If player's want to make claims, then they should make the claim, not soft around the edges.
Also, this is all good and well to say. But people joke claim, cover claim, wifom claim etc all the time. What are you going to do about it? Policy vote and not solve the game? I think not.
It very well could be a joke, cover, wifom, etc etc. I don't know.
I don't see the point of questioning me over questioning an unforced claim.
It's an open setup, so it's not like you can hide what your role is. Why did you claim this early?
this is all so intriguing, but I pretty much 100% claim power villager in any role fwiw
I do think this is actually lean town indicative even if they aren’t PR because baiting yourself early in a game like this is a smart play.
While it can come from scum I’m gonna lean them town for now due to their actions here.
While I am actually village here, it is definitely role neutral for me, as is pointing out that it's role neutral...
