The Syndicate

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:17 pm**

I'm unconvinced by c4's case on MR but I think noticing it is townie.

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:17 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:16 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:12 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:59 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:58 pm jay, why is radishes the towniest town to ever town?
I bet I can answer this and if Jay explains what's in my head I'll return the lock town read on him.
Radish hypes up the whole did he think what I thought he thought thing, making it sound like there's a high bar for Jay to clear here

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:59 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:58 pm jay, why is radishes the towniest town to ever town?
his reception of Nanook doing the "Jay and Mac are outed" thing and conversion of that into "Nanook and Mac are outed" looked very real to me, even if he didn't intend for it to be taken as incredibly serious. The brain that happened in MR's brain to facilitate that read is something I don't figure mafia are braining on Page 1
All Jay has to offer is describing what Radish did and saying "this feels like town"

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:00 pm Yep Jay town.
And that's enough for Radish apparently

Bit of a letdown
and you’re also town

But what about Radish's alignment

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:18 pm**

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:13 pm I might just keep playing without knowing my alignment. Thoughts?
Sounds good to me since I know it anyway

I would hope not given I'm a VT.

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:20 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:18 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:13 pm I might just keep playing without knowing my alignment. Thoughts?
Sounds good to me since I know it anyway
I would hope not given I'm a VT.

What, so it would be okay if you were a PR?

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:20 pm**

I change my mind. Hally could be town.

With Jimmay, c4 and probably possibly Radish.

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:20 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:15 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:09 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:01 pm [VOTE: Hally] aubergine

Serious vote.
sup?
I think you'd scrutinize Dizzy a little harder if you found his behavior jarring, since I got the impression you were miffed at wrongly townreading him in GOC.

it’s jarring, i just don’t think really think it’s AI

dizzy is more than capable of faking tone/vibe as a wolf so i believe that he’s just down regardless of alignment

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:20 pm**

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:21 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:20 pm [VOTE: Alison] aubergine

i'm fascinated please tell me more and clear yourself in so doing

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:24 pm**

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:17 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:16 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:12 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:59 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:58 pm jay, why is radishes the towniest town to ever town?
I bet I can answer this and if Jay explains what's in my head I'll return the lock town read on him.
Radish hypes up the whole did he think what I thought he thought thing, making it sound like there's a high bar for Jay to clear here

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:59 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:58 pm jay, why is radishes the towniest town to ever town?
his reception of Nanook doing the "Jay and Mac are outed" thing and conversion of that into "Nanook and Mac are outed" looked very real to me, even if he didn't intend for it to be taken as incredibly serious. The brain that happened in MR's brain to facilitate that read is something I don't figure mafia are braining on Page 1
All Jay has to offer is describing what Radish did and saying "this feels like town"

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:00 pm Yep Jay town.
And that's enough for Radish apparently

Bit of a letdown
and you’re also town
But what about Radish's alignment

no idea, it’s page 2

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:24 pm**

err, page 3

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:24 pm**

*fart*

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:26 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:24 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:17 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:16 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:12 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:59 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:58 pm jay, why is radishes the towniest town to ever town?
I bet I can answer this and if Jay explains what's in my head I'll return the lock town read on him.
Radish hypes up the whole did he think what I thought he thought thing, making it sound like there's a high bar for Jay to clear here

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:59 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:58 pm jay, why is radishes the towniest town to ever town?
his reception of Nanook doing the "Jay and Mac are outed" thing and conversion of that into "Nanook and Mac are outed" looked very real to me, even if he didn't intend for it to be taken as incredibly serious. The brain that happened in MR's brain to facilitate that read is something I don't figure mafia are braining on Page 1
All Jay has to offer is describing what Radish did and saying "this feels like town"

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:00 pm Yep Jay town.
And that's enough for Radish apparently

Bit of a letdown
and you’re also town
But what about Radish's alignment
no idea, it’s page 2

...

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:27 pm**

The following are reads. The categories are reads. The categories aren't ordered so it's not like a rainbow list, k

Having a good time on the highway into town
c4
Dizzy
MR

Having a good time, but maybe driving the wrong way
Nanook
Mac

Driving cautiously, both blinkers activated
Alison
Hally

Stopped in the right lane at a red light preventing people from turning right behind him
NAA

Haven't hit the road yet
DrWilgy
Marmot

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:27 pm**

Can you just... say you don't think the points are good if you don't think the points are good

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:28 pm**

@Alison

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:54 pm @Hally can you describe the vibe Dizzy gave you? he seems to be having fun

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:58 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:56 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:54 pm @Hally can you describe the vibe Dizzy gave you? he seems to be having fun
really? he seems a lot more subdued/flat to me than i’m used to
i dunno could be. i'm not "used" to anything anymore i barely play

but his posts didn't strike me that way. whaddya think of Dizzy saying you're a suspicious stinker

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:02 pm I was exploring the possibility that Hally's instinct was to respond to Dizzy's accusation with a sort of "offensive" (meaning "on the attack" rather than "being defensive") emotional appeal -- it'd be a bit of a suspicious thingy

i buy this sequence from jay as a real exploration of my response to dizzy

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:33 pm**

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:27 pm Can you just... say you don't think the points are good if you don't think the points are good

slow down there tiger, we have a lot of game to play

when i decide what i think of radishy you’ll be the first to know

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:33 pm**

I kinda wanna just let Jay go and see if he still has his superpowers.

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:33 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:33 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:27 pm Can you just... say you don't think the points are good if you don't think the points are good
slow down there tiger, we have a lot of game to play

when i decide what i think of radishy you’ll be the first to know

you're pretty fart here ngl

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:34 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:28 pm @Alison
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:54 pm @Hally can you describe the vibe Dizzy gave you? he seems to be having fun

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:58 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:56 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:54 pm @Hally can you describe the vibe Dizzy gave you? he seems to be having fun
really? he seems a lot more subdued/flat to me than i’m used to
i dunno could be. i'm not "used" to anything anymore i barely play

but his posts didn't strike me that way. whaddya think of Dizzy saying you're a suspicious stinker

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:02 pm I was exploring the possibility that Hally's instinct was to respond to Dizzy's accusation with a sort of "offensive" (meaning "on the attack" rather than "being defensive") emotional appeal -- it'd be a bit of a suspicious thingy
i buy this sequence from jay as a real exploration of my response to dizzy

I feel obligated to respond to this because it's a play by discovery read

Think it's good enough, there's some evidence of exhibit C in exhibits A and B

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:34 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:27 pm The following are reads. The categories are reads. The categories aren't ordered so it's not like a rainbow list, k

Having a good time on the highway into town
c4
Dizzy
MR
Town reads

Having a good time, but maybe driving the wrong way
Nanook
Mac
Dunno but gun to my head, town

Driving cautiously, both blinkers activated
Alison
Hally
Dunno kinda iffy

Stopped in the right lane at a red light preventing people from turning right behind him
NAA
"suspicious" I guess

Haven't hit the road yet
DrWilgy
Marmot
Eagerly awaiting

I decided to rainbow them so people know what the hell I am talking about

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:35 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:33 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:33 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:27 pm Can you just... say you don't think the points are good if you don't think the points are good
slow down there tiger, we have a lot of game to play

when i decide what i think of radishy you’ll be the first to know
you're pretty fart here ngl

if you smelt it you dealt it

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:37 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:34 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:27 pm The following are reads. The categories are reads. The categories aren't ordered so it's not like a rainbow list, k

Having a good time on the highway into town
c4
Dizzy
MR
Town reads

Having a good time, but maybe driving the wrong way
Nanook
Mac
Dunno but gun to my head, town

Driving cautiously, both blinkers activated
Alison
Hally
Dunno kinda iffy

Stopped in the right lane at a red light preventing people from turning right behind him
NAA
"suspicious" I guess

Haven't hit the road yet
DrWilgy
Marmot
Eagerly awaiting
I decided to rainbow them so people know what the hell I am talking about

#shouldhavestayedinretirement

I'm good with sheeping Alison and see where it goes.

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:37 pm**

I jest, but those reads

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:38 pm**

Not rly vibing Alison tbh

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:38 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:33 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:27 pm Can you just... say you don't think the points are good if you don't think the points are good
slow down there tiger, we have a lot of game to play

when i decide what i think of radishy you’ll be the first to know

What I'm getting annoyed at is that you raise "It's page 3" to imply there isn't enough to work off of
While in the meantime I'm gesturing toward *thing to work off of* in what I think is a pretty accessible way

I'm not asking for your holistic read on Radish, I get that it's fair for that to not exist yet, but what about this specific thing I wrote in order to talk about

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:38 pm**

@NotAnAxehole why did u have c4 as outed mafia?

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:39 pm**

c4 going against the grain on MR and making that catch on him is the villageriest thing itt so far

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:39 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:17 pm Jay has done nothing alignment indicative and anyone who believes he has is forcing a read or fooling themselves.

not entirely convinced town Alison feels the need to make this post if she has no read on me on page 2

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:43 pm**

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:38 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:33 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:27 pm Can you just... say you don't think the points are good if you don't think the points are good
slow down there tiger, we have a lot of game to play

when i decide what i think of radishy you’ll be the first to know
What I'm getting annoyed at is that you raise "It's page 3" to imply there isn't enough to work off of
While in the meantime I'm gesturing toward *thing to work off of* in what I think is a pretty accessible way

I'm not asking for your holistic read on Radish, I get that it's fair for that to not exist yet, but what about this specific thing I wrote in order to talk about

i think your perception that there was nothing there in jay’s read that could resonate with radishes is a bit uncharitable

also hope you don’t mind but one thing i’ve noticed about your town game is you tend to come in a bit hard when i think especially this early it would have been better to question radishes about what he saw instead of assuming there was nothing

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:43 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:38 pm @NotAnAxehole why did u have c4 as outed mafia?

A minor technicality.

I thought their reaction to it was bad too.

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:44 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:39 pm c4 going against the grain on MR and making that catch on him is the villageriest thing itt so far

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:45 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:38 pm @NotAnAxehole why did u have c4 as outed mafia?
A minor technicality.

I thought their reaction to it was bad too.

why do your reads strike me as fake?

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:45 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:38 pm @NotAnAxehole why did u have c4 as outed mafia?
A minor technicality.

I thought their reaction to it was bad too.

What technicality soz?

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:46 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:45 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:38 pm @NotAnAxehole why did u have c4 as outed mafia?
A minor technicality.

I thought their reaction to it was bad too.
why do your reads strike me as fake?

A lack of understanding + I haven't actually seriously evaluated.

Combination.

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:46 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:39 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:17 pm Jay has done nothing alignment indicative and anyone who believes he has is forcing a read or fooling themselves.
not entirely convinced town Alison feels the need to make this post if she has no read on me on page 2

Yeah and her next post wasn't any better.

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:46 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:39 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:17 pm Jay has done nothing alignment indicative and anyone who believes he has is forcing a read or fooling themselves.
not entirely convinced town Alison feels the need to make this post if she has no read on me on page 2

i thought her take on me was overly harsh too

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:47 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:46 pm A lack of understanding + I haven't actually seriously evaluated.

Combination.

okee dokee

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:47 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:44 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:39 pm c4 going against the grain on MR and making that catch on him is the villageriest thing itt so far

can i help you?

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:49 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:47 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:44 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:39 pm c4 going against the grain on MR and making that catch on him is the villageriest thing itt so far

can i help you?

Probably not, I think you're mafia proxy Alison and I don't understand the point of this read on C4 / it almost seems like TMI for the sake of pocketing.

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:51 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:39 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:17 pm Jay has done nothing alignment indicative and anyone who believes he has is forcing a read or fooling themselves.
not entirely convinced town Alison feels the need to make this post if she has no read on me on page 2

This just makes me think you two are the mafia. Congrats.

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:53 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:51 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:39 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:17 pm Jay has done nothing alignment indicative and anyone who believes he has is forcing a read or fooling themselves.
not entirely convinced town Alison feels the need to make this post if she has no read on me on page 2
This just makes me think you two are the mafia. Congrats.

now that's not what I wanted!

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:53 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:49 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:47 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:44 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:39 pm c4 going against the grain on MR and making that catch on him is the villageriest thing itt so far

can i help you?
Probably not, I think you're mafia proxy Alison and I don't understand the point of this read on C4 / it almost seems like TMI for the sake of pocketing.

you don’t seem to be making an effort to understand my read

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:54 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:43 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:38 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:33 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:27 pm Can you just... say you don't think the points are good if you don't think the points are good
slow down there tiger, we have a lot of game to play

when i decide what i think of radishy you’ll be the first to know
What I'm getting annoyed at is that you raise "It's page 3" to imply there isn't enough to work off of
While in the meantime I'm gesturing toward *thing to work off of* in what I think is a pretty accessible way

I'm not asking for your holistic read on Radish, I get that it's fair for that to not exist yet, but what about this specific thing I wrote in order to talk about
i think your perception that there was nothing there in jay’s read that could resonate with radishes is a bit uncharitable

also hope you don’t mind but one thing i’ve noticed about your town game is you tend to come in a bit hard when i think especially this early it would have been better to question radishes about what he saw instead of assuming there was nothing

Don't mind, I've noticed it too and probably would've said something more aggressively worded than "Bit of a letdown" otherwise

But I'm confused what else Radish could've seen in Jay's read at all, let alone resonate with, because it was truly just "thing feels town"
If there's some reason that resonated with Radish I'm open to hearing it, but I'll probably still be skeptical considering his first post about it

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:55 pm**

my suspects among people with posts are:

Alison
Hally
NAA

no particular order. we have a team of two. I already don't especially like a pairing of NAA with Hally or of Alison with Hally.

So an immediate POE emerges: NAA, Alison, Marmot, Wilgy

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:55 pm**

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:03 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:02 pm I should've thought of a witty opening post.
You only have to think of one in your career and paste it into every game

Watch out, he just might do it.

I stole one of Radish's for my GoC opening, so he definitely has at leastt one good one.

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:56 pm**

technically Hally can fit with the 0 posters too, so make it 5 if you want. I don't think I want. I might town read Hally. you're confused.

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:56 pm**

[VOTE: NAA] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:56 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:53 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:51 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:39 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:17 pm Jay has done nothing alignment indicative and anyone who believes he has is forcing a read or fooling themselves.
not entirely convinced town Alison feels the need to make this post if she has no read on me on page 2
This just makes me think you two are the mafia. Congrats.
now that's not what I wanted!

Actually, I read that as you town reading Alison for some reason. But it's mostly Alison's original post that makes me go hmmmm.

But I still don't car so

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:57 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:55 pm my suspects among people with posts are:

Alison
Hally
NAA

no particular order. we have a team of two. I already don't especially like a pairing of NAA with Hally or of Alison with Hally.

So an immediate POE emerges: NAA, Alison, Marmot, Wilgy

If a POE that includes me for not posting solves the game, count me in.

I'm flying to Ohio atm to visit my family for the weekend. I probably won't have much time to contribute until Saturday.

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:58 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:57 pmIf a POE that includes me for not posting solves the game, count me in.

I'm flying to Ohio atm to visit my family for the weekend. I probably won't have much time to contribute until Saturday.

Marmot mafia confirmed tbh

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