Re: Rave Master Mafia
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:40 am
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/sfm-as ... /1856/5935Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:30 amHow many times have you been wolf? Can you quote me two recent wolf games of yours?Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:27 amoh honestly the one game I played with alison she didn't start like this so I found it mildly off putting and your pushing of her felt naturally townie I guess? god I hope I dont come to eat those wordsSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:25 amI'm also not sober, so sorry.Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:20 amsorry can you reword "You seem to imply Alison is the wolf you third" i'm not sober and my brain doesnt make sense of itSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:17 amYou seem to imply Alison is the wolf you third. Can you quote the posts you were looking at to conclude this? Preferably wirh explanations as to why they caused you to third? The game is small so this should be easy.
You said "thirded" to a post that was about me or Alison having to be a wolf, then after I asked you, you strongly implied that you were considering Alison as the wolf.
Please quote the posts that Alison posted that made you suspicious of Alison and please explain your suspicion.
And what is your read on me?Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:38 amI think they received a sudden spike of pressure for a relatively casual vibes read and are scrambling as a result of this.
I am playing differently than usual; I don't begrudge them (or you) the suspicion towards me. Based on what I have seen of Porscha the scrambling is NAI.
I have a slight townread on them, because I think they would be too intimidated to commit to a position that one of me or you is a wolf early on.
I don't have one.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:41 amAnd what is your read on me?Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:38 amI think they received a sudden spike of pressure for a relatively casual vibes read and are scrambling as a result of this.
I am playing differently than usual; I don't begrudge them (or you) the suspicion towards me. Based on what I have seen of Porscha the scrambling is NAI.
I have a slight townread on them, because I think they would be too intimidated to commit to a position that one of me or you is a wolf early on.
Really?Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:42 amI don't have one.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:41 amAnd what is your read on me?Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:38 amI think they received a sudden spike of pressure for a relatively casual vibes read and are scrambling as a result of this.
I am playing differently than usual; I don't begrudge them (or you) the suspicion towards me. Based on what I have seen of Porscha the scrambling is NAI.
I have a slight townread on them, because I think they would be too intimidated to commit to a position that one of me or you is a wolf early on.
Yes.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:47 amReally?Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:42 amI don't have one.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:41 amAnd what is your read on me?Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:38 amI think they received a sudden spike of pressure for a relatively casual vibes read and are scrambling as a result of this.
I am playing differently than usual; I don't begrudge them (or you) the suspicion towards me. Based on what I have seen of Porscha the scrambling is NAI.
I have a slight townread on them, because I think they would be too intimidated to commit to a position that one of me or you is a wolf early on.
How many times have you been wolf?Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:41 amhttps://www.fortressoflies.com/t/sfm-as ... /1856/5935Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:30 amHow many times have you been wolf? Can you quote me two recent wolf games of yours?Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:27 amoh honestly the one game I played with alison she didn't start like this so I found it mildly off putting and your pushing of her felt naturally townie I guess? god I hope I dont come to eat those wordsSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:25 amI'm also not sober, so sorry.Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:20 amsorry can you reword "You seem to imply Alison is the wolf you third" i'm not sober and my brain doesnt make sense of it
You said "thirded" to a post that was about me or Alison having to be a wolf, then after I asked you, you strongly implied that you were considering Alison as the wolf.
Please quote the posts that Alison posted that made you suspicious of Alison and please explain your suspicion.
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/prehis ... /1550/4549
sorry they are both on FoL lol
Can I vote you a second time?Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:47 amYes.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:47 amReally?Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:42 amI don't have one.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:41 amAnd what is your read on me?Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:38 amI think they received a sudden spike of pressure for a relatively casual vibes read and are scrambling as a result of this.
I am playing differently than usual; I don't begrudge them (or you) the suspicion towards me. Based on what I have seen of Porscha the scrambling is NAI.
I have a slight townread on them, because I think they would be too intimidated to commit to a position that one of me or you is a wolf early on.
I think these posts are scummy. Discuss.
You can try.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:48 amCan I vote you a second time?Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:47 amYes.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:47 amReally?Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:42 amI don't have one.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:41 amAnd what is your read on me?Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:38 amI think they received a sudden spike of pressure for a relatively casual vibes read and are scrambling as a result of this.
I am playing differently than usual; I don't begrudge them (or you) the suspicion towards me. Based on what I have seen of Porscha the scrambling is NAI.
I have a slight townread on them, because I think they would be too intimidated to commit to a position that one of me or you is a wolf early on.
those 2 times lolSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:48 amHow many times have you been wolf?Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:41 amhttps://www.fortressoflies.com/t/sfm-as ... /1856/5935Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:30 amHow many times have you been wolf? Can you quote me two recent wolf games of yours?Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:27 amoh honestly the one game I played with alison she didn't start like this so I found it mildly off putting and your pushing of her felt naturally townie I guess? god I hope I dont come to eat those wordsSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:25 amI'm also not sober, so sorry.
You said "thirded" to a post that was about me or Alison having to be a wolf, then after I asked you, you strongly implied that you were considering Alison as the wolf.
Please quote the posts that Alison posted that made you suspicious of Alison and please explain your suspicion.
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/prehis ... /1550/4549
sorry they are both on FoL lol
Alison is wolf. I am reasonably confident in this. Please anyone who is not Alison please speak up if they disagree. Otherwise I am currently calling for a D1 Alison Elim.
You might wish to see a doctor.DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:02 am I drank so much caffeine that my legs/heart feel uneasy and my head hurts.
wouldn't be surprised to have a seizure tonight, but w.e can't sleep
nah, it's happened beforeAlison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:03 amYou might wish to see a doctor.DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:02 am I drank so much caffeine that my legs/heart feel uneasy and my head hurts.
wouldn't be surprised to have a seizure tonight, but w.e can't sleep
I know you well enough to know that you know me well enough that you'd have a read on me if you were town. You can claim you're busy, and I believe that you're busy, but regardless of your business, you're just a wolf. Sorry about your rand.
I think they bring more value to the game than most other posts on that page because they state reads and the other posts are just chilling. That's not why I dislike them.DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:10 amI don't think either post brings anything of value to the game
elaborate please. What do you think about my post?Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:14 am:o lol
Why would me knowing you well mean that I would definitely have a read on you as town?
I feel like you saw me call your previous posts aggressive and in your mind you thought, "porscha hasn't SEEN aggressive yet" and then proceeded to type out that neck choking postSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:16 amelaborate please. What do you think about my post?Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:14 am:o lol
Why indeed. You tell me.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:16 amWhy would me knowing you well mean that I would definitely have a read on you as town?
How do you feel about Alison? I'd like a clear read along with details if possible.Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:20 amI feel like you saw me call your previous posts aggressive and in your mind you thought, "porscha hasn't SEEN aggressive yet" and then proceeded to type out that neck choking postSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:16 amelaborate please. What do you think about my post?Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:14 am:o lol
why must you ask so much of meSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:22 amHow do you feel about Alison? I'd like a clear read along with details if possible.Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:20 amI feel like you saw me call your previous posts aggressive and in your mind you thought, "porscha hasn't SEEN aggressive yet" and then proceeded to type out that neck choking postSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:16 amelaborate please. What do you think about my post?Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:14 am:o lol
honestly i've only played I think 1 game with alison so I don't have a lot of experience with them and tbf she could absolutely just be playing casually since she's busy doing irl stuff so I'm not by any means hard sold on her being wolf, but I don't mind you pushing her more anyway since i'm not town reading her eitherPorscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:24 amwhy must you ask so much of meSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:22 amHow do you feel about Alison? I'd like a clear read along with details if possible.Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:20 amI feel like you saw me call your previous posts aggressive and in your mind you thought, "porscha hasn't SEEN aggressive yet" and then proceeded to type out that neck choking postSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:16 amelaborate please. What do you think about my post?Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:14 am:o lol
I'd appreciate your answer. I very strongly think Alison is an outed wolf. You earlier seemed to think so too. Why? Is that so weird a question?Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:24 amwhy must you ask so much of meSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:22 amHow do you feel about Alison? I'd like a clear read along with details if possible.Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:20 amI feel like you saw me call your previous posts aggressive and in your mind you thought, "porscha hasn't SEEN aggressive yet" and then proceeded to type out that neck choking postSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:16 amelaborate please. What do you think about my post?Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:14 am:o lol
no but I wouldn't call how I felt about it as her being an outed wolf. just didn't think this was theater between you two and I feel like sometimes interactions like this end up hitting wolves, so between the 2 of you, since you were doing so much pushing, I didn't think it would be youSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:27 amI'd appreciate your answer. I very strongly think Alison is an outed wolf. You earlier seemed to think so too. Why? Is that so weird a question?Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:24 amwhy must you ask so much of meSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:22 amHow do you feel about Alison? I'd like a clear read along with details if possible.Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:20 amI feel like you saw me call your previous posts aggressive and in your mind you thought, "porscha hasn't SEEN aggressive yet" and then proceeded to type out that neck choking post
Here are my full thoughts on you.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:20 amWhy indeed. You tell me.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:16 amWhy would me knowing you well mean that I would definitely have a read on you as town?
In particular, what is your read one me right now? please don't say "I don't have one", but please tell me exactly what you think of me and my alignment
Can I vote you again?Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:34 amHere are my full thoughts on you.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:20 amWhy indeed. You tell me.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:16 amWhy would me knowing you well mean that I would definitely have a read on you as town?
In particular, what is your read one me right now? please don't say "I don't have one", but please tell me exactly what you think of me and my alignment
I have three tells that I am confident are good at determining your alignment before flips happen. The first is that you are appease-y and try to avoid causing offense as wolf. The second tell is that you are a "grumpy Boomer" (not my words) as town, making hostile and somtimes contrarian remarks to fish reactions out of people or apply pressure. The third tell is a specific line that I have seen you use repeatedly as town and only town, which is when you turn up the pressure on someone to try to get them to attempt to pocket you by reading you town, only to challenge them on why they are reading you town, invoking the line "I have done nothing townie" or similar.
You are not appease-y this game, but neither are you as prickly as I expect you to be. For instance, when you briefly voted and questioned Porscha, you let them off with fairly softball questions asking them to clarify their meaning and provide some wolf games before backing off. The only person you have really turned up the aggression against is me... but I am not someone who is easily ruffled or pressured into cracking, and furthermore, I have applied the "prickly grumpy Boomer" tell enough times in the past that if you were faking it, I would be the one you would be performing for the most intensely.
I have been waiting for you to use the "I have done nothing townie" line; Porscha gave you an opportunity, and you didn't take it. I stonewalled you with posts like the "morale" joke, and "I agree", to frustrate you and see if you would push elsewhere and demonstrate that town tell. You haven't, except for a brief foray onto Porscha; you've mostly stayed tunnelled on me.
I was waiting for you to do something I can confidently read before saying anything, hence: "I have no read on you". If you put a gun to my head and asked me to name you either town or mafia, I would say I am leaning towards mafia, because the way you have targeted specifically me with your aggression, persisting despite a stonewall, feels targeted to pocket me through the meta that you know I read you on. But I am uncertain of this.
That's how I feel about you.
I wrote a townie post and you doubled down on your wolfread.
This one.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:34 amHere are my full thoughts on you.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:20 amWhy indeed. You tell me.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:16 amWhy would me knowing you well mean that I would definitely have a read on you as town?
In particular, what is your read one me right now? please don't say "I don't have one", but please tell me exactly what you think of me and my alignment
I have three tells that I am confident are good at determining your alignment before flips happen. The first is that you are appease-y and try to avoid causing offense as wolf. The second tell is that you are a "grumpy Boomer" (not my words) as town, making hostile and somtimes contrarian remarks to fish reactions out of people or apply pressure. The third tell is a specific line that I have seen you use repeatedly as town and only town, which is when you turn up the pressure on someone to try to get them to attempt to pocket you by reading you town, only to challenge them on why they are reading you town, invoking the line "I have done nothing townie" or similar.
You are not appease-y this game, but neither are you as prickly as I expect you to be. For instance, when you briefly voted and questioned Porscha, you let them off with fairly softball questions asking them to clarify their meaning and provide some wolf games before backing off. The only person you have really turned up the aggression against is me... but I am not someone who is easily ruffled or pressured into cracking, and furthermore, I have applied the "prickly grumpy Boomer" tell enough times in the past that if you were faking it, I would be the one you would be performing for the most intensely.
I have been waiting for you to use the "I have done nothing townie" line; Porscha gave you an opportunity, and you didn't take it. I stonewalled you with posts like the "morale" joke, and "I agree", to frustrate you and see if you would push elsewhere and demonstrate that town tell. You haven't, except for a brief foray onto Porscha; you've mostly stayed tunnelled on me.
I was waiting for you to do something I can confidently read before saying anything, hence: "I have no read on you". If you put a gun to my head and asked me to name you either town or mafia, I would say I am leaning towards mafia, because the way you have targeted specifically me with your aggression, persisting despite a stonewall, feels targeted to pocket me through the meta that you know I read you on. But I am uncertain of this.
That's how I feel about you.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:53 amThis one.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:34 amHere are my full thoughts on you.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:20 amWhy indeed. You tell me.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:16 amWhy would me knowing you well mean that I would definitely have a read on you as town?
In particular, what is your read one me right now? please don't say "I don't have one", but please tell me exactly what you think of me and my alignment
I have three tells that I am confident are good at determining your alignment before flips happen. The first is that you are appease-y and try to avoid causing offense as wolf. The second tell is that you are a "grumpy Boomer" (not my words) as town, making hostile and somtimes contrarian remarks to fish reactions out of people or apply pressure. The third tell is a specific line that I have seen you use repeatedly as town and only town, which is when you turn up the pressure on someone to try to get them to attempt to pocket you by reading you town, only to challenge them on why they are reading you town, invoking the line "I have done nothing townie" or similar.
You are not appease-y this game, but neither are you as prickly as I expect you to be. For instance, when you briefly voted and questioned Porscha, you let them off with fairly softball questions asking them to clarify their meaning and provide some wolf games before backing off. The only person you have really turned up the aggression against is me... but I am not someone who is easily ruffled or pressured into cracking, and furthermore, I have applied the "prickly grumpy Boomer" tell enough times in the past that if you were faking it, I would be the one you would be performing for the most intensely.
I have been waiting for you to use the "I have done nothing townie" line; Porscha gave you an opportunity, and you didn't take it. I stonewalled you with posts like the "morale" joke, and "I agree", to frustrate you and see if you would push elsewhere and demonstrate that town tell. You haven't, except for a brief foray onto Porscha; you've mostly stayed tunnelled on me.
I was waiting for you to do something I can confidently read before saying anything, hence: "I have no read on you". If you put a gun to my head and asked me to name you either town or mafia, I would say I am leaning towards mafia, because the way you have targeted specifically me with your aggression, persisting despite a stonewall, feels targeted to pocket me through the meta that you know I read you on. But I am uncertain of this.
That's how I feel about you.