Willow [Endgame]

#101

i will only edit cuss words and will note it in the posts (unless the host says not to, in which case i will not). But he wants a clean thread and was not here to remove the cuss.

#102

S~V~S wrote:i will only edit cuss words and will note it in the posts (unless the host says not to, in which case i will not). But he wants a clean thread and was not here to remove the cuss.

I made the right choice voting for you today.

#103

Epignosis wrote:The power to control the [profanity content of the thread] is in which person?

S~V~S 1 thellama73 (9)

#104

#105

S~V~S wrote:i will only edit cuss words and will note it in the posts (unless the host says not to, in which case i will not). But he wants a clean thread and was not here to remove the cuss.

Thank you for your vigilance.

#106

I'm voting for Kate..... Let's have it be a battle between mother and son who wins this thing!

#107

If you vote for me today, Citizens of Nelwyn, I promise to never impede your freedom of speech, and will never edit any of your posts.

#108

Turnip Head wrote:If you vote for me today, Citizens of Nelwyn, I promise to never impede your freedom of speech, and will never edit any of your posts.

A pretty empty promise since you don't have that power anyway.

#109

My freedom of speech is still intact. I can say whatever I want because I just don't know any bad words.

#110

You're quite the chatty group, aren't you?
Like I said, I don't have time to stick around much, but just some questions:

I feel this is a need to know basis and I need to know. What's all this talk about Andrew? From what I've read, he's Kate's kid...and a kid. How old are we talking about that you think that even though Epi said he was going to randomize in the sign up thread, he would give Andrew a civie role no matter what?

If that's really the case, then I can definitely see at least some of those voting for him, being scum and trying to manipulate him. I've only played with a kid once, in a live game. She was 14 and we were 3 players left in the game, me the baddie and her and the other person the civs. I used her like crazy. I was going to win but my conscience got in the way at the end, and I just told them I was the baddie. I felt like I was corrupting the poor girl's soul. So if you baddies are trying to get on Andrew's good side, you're going to hell for this

I'm contemplating who to vote for. Who do I like the best? Right now, it's between llama, Bea and TH. I'll think about it a few more minutes

#111

FZ. wrote: I'm contemplating who to vote for. Who do I like the best? Right now, it's between llama, Bea and TH. I'll think about it a few more minutes

I have always been nice to you.

#112

He said that in the sign up thread? My bad, i did not read the sign up thread, i only read what is in the game thread as being canonical.

Well, the odds are still in Andrews favor. I am OK with my vote.

#113

thellama73 wrote:
FZ. wrote: I'm contemplating who to vote for. Who do I like the best? Right now, it's between llama, Bea and TH. I'll think about it a few more minutes
I have always been nice to you.

Hence why I like you

But let's not forget you killed me last game

S~V~S wrote:He said that in the sign up thread? My bad, i did not read the sign up thread, i only read what is in the game thread as being canonical.

Well, the odds are still in Andrews favor. I am OK with my vote.

Don't let the facts confuse you

The odds are still with any player in the game.

#114

I know what the odds mean, what i am saying is that even if it was random, odds are good he is a civ in any case, so i am OK having voted for him, and trusting that he will do the right thing if he wins.

#115

S~V~S wrote:I know what the odds mean, what i am saying is that even if it was random, odds are good he is a civ in any case, so i am OK having voted for him, and trusting that he will do the right thing if he wins.

I know what you mean, I was just enjoying teasing you

But what I do find funny is, you all think he's too young to be a baddie yet you trust him to know what to do if he gets something good. Hmm...

#116

Becasue i know him~ hes a smart kid, and a sophisticated one, but I still think he would have troubles being part of a decision to NK his Mom.

#117

S~V~S wrote:Becasue i know him~ hes a smart kid, and a sophisticated one, but I still think he would have troubles being part of a decision to NK his Mom.

So you believe that if he were randomly assigned the NK role he would prefer to lose the game than NK Kate? I don't think I understand your point.

#118

DharmaHelper wrote:I voted for Andrew to get the prize. But don't be fooled, I'm not in the camp that thinks we ought to play with kid gloves where Andrew is concerned. If he flubs up at any point and shows his hand as a baddie, I'll be there!

Also, thanks for the vote, Andrew, I appreciate your confidence.

So why did you vote him? You are doing just that- treating him differently.
Again, can I ask how old Andrew is that everyone's acting so funny about him?

#119

Llama, Do you know any 8 year olds?

Linki~ lol

#120

S~V~S wrote:Llama, Do you know any 8 year olds?

Linki~ lol

Lots. I used to teach piano lessons. Most of them would be delighted for a chance to kill their parents in a game.

#121

Plus, even if I accept you premise that if Andrew were bad, he wouldn't kill his mom, he would still kill the rest of us and we would still need him dead to win, so I don't see what that has to do with anything.

#122

thellama73 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Becasue i know him~ hes a smart kid, and a sophisticated one, but I still think he would have troubles being part of a decision to NK his Mom.
So you believe that if he were randomly assigned the NK role he would prefer to lose the game than NK Kate? I don't think I understand your point.

I think any little kid would be uncomfortable with this decision. And i don't understand why you are making such a huge deal out of this. This is my opinion. i could be wrong.

Linki~ I disagree, tbh. As usual.

#123

He's 8? Whoa

Yeah, okay, totally different story. I thought 12.
Could definitely see Epi giving him a civ role.

#124

S~V~S wrote: I think any little kid would be uncomfortable with this decision. And i don't understand why you are making such a huge deal out of this.

Because I like logic, and "Andrew would be uncomfortable killing Kate, therefore Andrew is civvie" does not follow.

#125

thellama73 wrote:
S~V~S wrote: I think any little kid would be uncomfortable with this decision. And i don't understand why you are making such a huge deal out of this.
Because I like logic, and "Andrew would be uncomfortable killing Kate, therefore Andrew is civvie" does not follow.

I have an 8 year old. I'd never let him play (not being judgmental), but having to deal with all the lies and deceiving is something I wouldn't want him to do, even without his mother playing the game. It's too much pressure in my opinion. So if I were hosting, I can definitely see myself making him a civ.

#126

FZ. wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
S~V~S wrote: I think any little kid would be uncomfortable with this decision. And i don't understand why you are making such a huge deal out of this.
Because I like logic, and "Andrew would be uncomfortable killing Kate, therefore Andrew is civvie" does not follow.
I have an 8 year old. I'd never let him play (not being judgmental), but having to deal with all the lies and deceiving is something I wouldn't want him to do, even without his mother playing the game. It's too much pressure in my opinion. So if I were hosting, I can definitely see myself making him a civ.

If it is deemed that a player is not emotionally equipped to play, don't let them play. Otherwise, I find the suggestion that Andrew is incapable of playing the game properly because of his age, and therefore must be protected, condescending and offensive. I have played mafia with him before and he did great. I played games with my parents all the time when I was eight, and had no difficulty playing to win.

#127

thellama73 wrote:
FZ. wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
S~V~S wrote: I think any little kid would be uncomfortable with this decision. And i don't understand why you are making such a huge deal out of this.
Because I like logic, and "Andrew would be uncomfortable killing Kate, therefore Andrew is civvie" does not follow.
I have an 8 year old. I'd never let him play (not being judgmental), but having to deal with all the lies and deceiving is something I wouldn't want him to do, even without his mother playing the game. It's too much pressure in my opinion. So if I were hosting, I can definitely see myself making him a civ.
If it is deemed that a player is not emotionally equipped to play, don't let them play. Otherwise, I find the suggestion that Andrew is incapable of playing the game properly because of his age, and therefore must be protected, condescending and offensive. I have played mafia with him before and he did great. I played games with my parents all the time when I was eight, and had no difficulty playing to win.

I apologize.I didn't mean for it to come off condescending and offensive, just that it's something I wouldn't want my kid to play, especially not with grown ups. Like I said, I've done it, and we all agreed that we shouldn't do it again. That said, I'm not in charge of anyone and don't decide who plays and who doesn't, and I'm sure he's a great kid and going by what people say, a very smart one, so I do agree that if someone plays, we treat him like we treat everyone and don't make assumptions. That said, it's one things saying it and quite another practicing it...

#128

FZ. wrote: I apologize.I didn't mean for it to come off condescending and offensive, just that it's something I wouldn't want my kid to play, especially not with grown ups. Like I said, I've done it, and we all agreed that we shouldn't do it again. That said, I'm not in charge of anyone and don't decide who plays and who doesn't, and I'm sure he's a great kid and going by what people say, a very smart one, so I do agree that if someone plays, we treat him like we treat everyone and don't make assumptions. That said, it's one things saying it and quite another practicing it...

No apology necessary.

I think that's a completely reasonable position to take as a parent and I agree with everything in this post.

(vote for me)

#129

I'm giving my vote to Kate and leaving

#130

thellama73 wrote:
FZ. wrote: I apologize.I didn't mean for it to come off condescending and offensive, just that it's something I wouldn't want my kid to play, especially not with grown ups. Like I said, I've done it, and we all agreed that we shouldn't do it again. That said, I'm not in charge of anyone and don't decide who plays and who doesn't, and I'm sure he's a great kid and going by what people say, a very smart one, so I do agree that if someone plays, we treat him like we treat everyone and don't make assumptions. That said, it's one things saying it and quite another practicing it...
No apology necessary. I think that's a completely reasonable position to take as a parent and I agree with everything in this post.

(vote for me)

Haha, so you agreed with me for the vote?

#131

FZ. wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
FZ. wrote: I apologize.I didn't mean for it to come off condescending and offensive, just that it's something I wouldn't want my kid to play, especially not with grown ups. Like I said, I've done it, and we all agreed that we shouldn't do it again. That said, I'm not in charge of anyone and don't decide who plays and who doesn't, and I'm sure he's a great kid and going by what people say, a very smart one, so I do agree that if someone plays, we treat him like we treat everyone and don't make assumptions. That said, it's one things saying it and quite another practicing it...
No apology necessary. I think that's a completely reasonable position to take as a parent and I agree with everything in this post.

(vote for me)
Haha, so you agreed with me for the vote?

Well, not just for the vote. I'm changing my vote to Kate too. I like ties.

#132

thellama73 wrote:
FZ. wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
FZ. wrote: I apologize.I didn't mean for it to come off condescending and offensive, just that it's something I wouldn't want my kid to play, especially not with grown ups. Like I said, I've done it, and we all agreed that we shouldn't do it again. That said, I'm not in charge of anyone and don't decide who plays and who doesn't, and I'm sure he's a great kid and going by what people say, a very smart one, so I do agree that if someone plays, we treat him like we treat everyone and don't make assumptions. That said, it's one things saying it and quite another practicing it...
No apology necessary. I think that's a completely reasonable position to take as a parent and I agree with everything in this post.

(vote for me)
Haha, so you agreed with me for the vote?
Well, not just for the vote. I'm changing my vote to Kate too. I like ties.

Yeah, that was my reason too. But I forgot to vote. Okay, doing it now.
Bye

#133

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#134

The power to control the universe is in which person?

Poll runs till Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:27 pm
You may select 1 option

Andrew
5
Kate (3), insertnamehere (4), S~V~S (5), bea (10), DharmaHelper (12)
31%

bea
0
No votes

birdwithteeth11
0
No votes

DharmaHelper
1
Andrew (8)
6%

Dom
0
No votes

Elohcin
0
No votes

FZ.
0
No votes

insertnamehere
1
Turnip Head (9)
6%

Kate
5
birdwithteeth11 (2), Dom (13), Sorsha (14), thellama73 (15), FZ. (16)
31%

Metalmarsh89
0
No votes

Sorsha
0
No votes

S~V~S
0
No votes

thellama73
1
Metalmarsh89 (6)
6%

Turnip Head
1
Elohcin (11)
6%

George Lucas (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
2
Epignosis (1), kneel4justice (7)
13%

Total votes : 16

#135

Day 1: Ignore the Bird; Follow the River

“Andrew! Andrew!” cried the crowd.

“But he’s only eight-years-old! How can he be trusted with so great a responsibility?” asked thellema73.

“Silence! It has been decided.”

The cheers of the crowd turned into cries of terror when a group of death dogs lunged into the village. The Nelwyn villagers fought with farm instruments and fire. Soon there was quiet.

“They were looking for someone’s baby!” a villager said, noting a broken crib.

It is now Day 1. You have 24 hours to lynch someone.

#136

See what happens when you trust children? Death dogs.

It's astonishing how infrequently people listen to me.

#137

Instead of saying "kill" or "murder", let's be honest. This is a silly forum game that we eliminate each other from to win. It's not personal, and shouldn't be treated as such. I feel like Andrew would not have a problem with eliminating his mom, because it's a game. But, I think Andrew is more likely to be a civ because he may not be able to keep it a secret from Kate. Now, if they were both on a baddie team, they would possibly be unstoppable. If he is civ, Andrew is going to be a huge target tonight.

So, I'm going to be around at night before I go to bed, and in the morning. This means I'm going to have to vote in the morning. I'll probably randomize. This will last until Wednesday.

#138

FZ, why did you vote to lynch Kate without saying anything?

#139

thellama73 wrote:See what happens when you trust children? Death dogs.

It's astonishing how infrequently people listen to me.

I had that same feeling last game. Pretty rotten.

#140

bea wrote:(I'm guessing it was the naughty word you edited out. )

I'm bad at words.

#141

thellama73 wrote:FZ, why did you vote to lynch Kate without saying anything?

I did? I didn't even notice that. I have no idea how that vote came to be. I refreshed the page or something. That's the last thing I remember doing.
I'll change it, but I have no idea who to vote for. I might go for Elo, since I didn't like how she was "trying to get into Epi's head"

Or DH, for voting for Andrew for no good reason.

#142

Well, that was a weird result.

And I thought (assumed) DH voted Andrew for voting him? If I recall correctly, Andrew got along pretty well with DH in Thomas. But i have no idea if that was actually the case, it was just an assumption on my part.

#143

So, I randomized and got Sorsha. Sorry.

#144

S~V~S wrote:Well, that was a weird result.

And I thought (assumed) DH voted Andrew for voting him? If I recall correctly, Andrew got along pretty well with DH in Thomas. But i have no idea if that was actually the case, it was just an assumption on my part.

Weird how?

#145

I expected it to sound more...totally positive, i guess? The "Yay" thing turned into vicious dogs attacking (which was an odd coincidence due to the death dogs in D & D yesterday, but that was not what I meant). The death dogs part was unexpected, I guess.

#146

Man I hate Death Dogs.

#147

S~V~S wrote:Well, that was a weird result.

And I thought (assumed) DH voted Andrew for voting him? If I recall correctly, Andrew got along pretty well with DH in Thomas. But i have no idea if that was actually the case, it was just an assumption on my part.

Why are you explaining young Andrew's motivations?

#148

Turnip Head wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Well, that was a weird result.

And I thought (assumed) DH voted Andrew for voting him? If I recall correctly, Andrew got along pretty well with DH in Thomas. But i have no idea if that was actually the case, it was just an assumption on my part.
Why are you explaining young Andrew's motivations?

I was not, I was responding to this remark that FZ made:

FZ. wrote:
thellama73 wrote:FZ, why did you vote to lynch Kate without saying anything?
I did? I didn't even notice that. I have no idea how that vote came to be. I refreshed the page or something. That's the last thing I remember doing.
I'll change it, but I have no idea who to vote for. I might go for Elo, since I didn't like how she was "trying to get into Epi's head" Or DH, for voting for Andrew for no good reason.

So actually, to be precise, i was explaining what i thought to be DHs motivations. If you read my post, then you read that one, which was the one right before it

Why are you taking remarks out of context?

#149

See what I did there?

#150

I have no idea why I read your post wrong, lol. I find myself suspicious of your tone so far, and thought I had found a way to make a similar jab as one you recently made at me in a different game. :P

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