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Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:59 pm
by Marmot
Boogs wrote:Hi guys. Voting fire Cus I like fire :)
What kind of kitty likes fire?

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:00 pm
by Marmot
We are making a big mistake today. If there is an island on fire, why would we want to be over it? :confused:

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:04 pm
by Snow Dog
I voted Tiger Mountain because I always liked the album title "Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy"

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:16 pm
by Mongoose
Vompatti wrote:I want to lose.
Why, we've not even started Day 1 yet? Get some pizza and get buckled in.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:01 pm
by nijuukyugou
Hello, all! Interesting strategy we're going for, but what the hell - you've picked a fantastic (and by that I mean horribly-stressful-my-face-will-break-out-and-I-won't-sleep-til-Friday-kind-of-work) week for such a plan. Participation win trophies for everyone! :biggrin:

I had never even heard of Eno before I signed up for this game, and as of now have only listened to one of the songs posted on the other page - Over Fire Island. I liked the beat. And it was short. But mostly, the name caught my attention because long ago, a friend of mine gave me an absurd choose-your-own-adventure book called Escape From Fire Island. I will say no more.

Also, I will vote Over Fire Island.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:28 pm
by S~V~S
Metalmarsh89 wrote:We are making a big mistake today. If there is an island on fire, why would we want to be over it? :confused:
Since Fire Island is near the Hamptons, and both are Rock Star style party places, I presume that the song is about this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_Island

Not about an island on fire.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:26 pm
by Mongoose
nijuukyugou wrote:Hello, all! Interesting strategy we're going for, but what the hell - you've picked a fantastic (and by that I mean horribly-stressful-my-face-will-break-out-and-I-won't-sleep-til-Friday-kind-of-work) week for such a plan. Participation win trophies for everyone! :biggrin:

I had never even heard of Eno before I signed up for this game, and as of now have only listened to one of the songs posted on the other page - Over Fire Island. I liked the beat. And it was short. But mostly, the name caught my attention because long ago, a friend of mine gave me an absurd choose-your-own-adventure book called Escape From Fire Island. I will say no more.

Also, I will vote Over Fire Island.

I know what you mean, blooper. I'm buried in hearings and hearing prep this week. A perfect time to procrastinate!

Are we going to fall into a burning ring of fire? Are we going to go down, down, down and the flames'll grow higher?

Fun fact: I had a friend in college who wasnt allowed to listen to that song because her parents were convinced that it was about pooping.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:51 pm
by nijuukyugou
Mongoose wrote:
Are we going to fall into a burning ring of fire? Are we going to go down, down, down and the flames'll grow higher?

Fun fact: I had a friend in college who wasnt allowed to listen to that song because her parents were convinced that it was about pooping.
I just choked on my cereal. Thanks for that :haha:

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:12 pm
by Vompatti
The murderer must be somebody in this room!

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:32 pm
by Mongoose
Vompatti wrote:The murderer must be somebody in this room!
Is it you?

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:34 pm
by Vompatti
Mongoose wrote:
Vompatti wrote:The murderer must be somebody in this room!
Is it you?
There's only one way to find out.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:38 pm
by insertnamehere

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:03 pm
by Marmot
Vompatti wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
Vompatti wrote:The murderer must be somebody in this room!
Is it you?
There's only one way to find out.

MM promptly spills his drink on Vompatti's suit.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:40 pm
by thellama73
Day 1: Over Fire Island
Image
Fire Island was not, as many had feared, actually on fire, as the mist gave way to the beautiful and serene strip of land standing alone in a vast ocean. The group looked down at the landscape below with awe and wonder. Just then, the sun burst over the horizon in a ball of glorious flame. Its light must have awakened the sleeping wildlife on the island, and an arc of doves fluttered powerfully through the air, their white backs gleaming with the reflected glow of morning.

Inspired by the peaceful nature of their surroundings, insertnamehere proposed a treaty of sorts, one that, he thought, would let them all escape this dream world with their skins intact. Yet it required an animal sacrifice, and the cooperation of all to carry it off. Intrigued yet nervous, the group looked at each other, and at MovingPictures07 in particular, who had courageously (foolhardily?) offered his own neck up for the slaughter.

Did they really have the heart to do it?

Meanwhile, off in some rarified corner, the Host reflected on the people who haven’t yet participated, and wondered what would happen if he decided to modkill them. Hmmm, indeed.

You have 24 hours to lynch someone.

Oblique Strategies Polling Thread

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:40 pm
by thellama73
Where ought we to begin?

Poll runs till Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:39:08 pm
You may select 1 option

Over Fire Island
7
MovingPictures07 (4), S~V~S (5), insertnamehere (12), Dom (13), Bass_the_Clever (14), Boogs (15), nijuukyugou (17)
41%

In Dark Trees
1
Vompatti (3)
6%

By This River
3
triceratopzeuhl (6), juliets (7), Roxy (11)
18%

Tiger Mountain
3
Snow Dog (2), Mongoose (9), Metalmarsh89 (10)
18%

China My China
1
DFaraday (16)
6%

On Some Faraway Beach
0
No votes

Staycation (Host/NP/Mod/Dead)
2
thellama73 (1), Epignosis (8)
12%


Total votes : 17

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:44 pm
by Mongoose
David Byrne as the non-player option? Supafrown.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:46 pm
by thellama73
Mongoose wrote:David Byrne as the non-player option? Supafrown.
You brought this on yourself.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:56 pm
by Marmot
Sorry MP, but non-players being modkilled could ruin your strategy anyway.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:39 pm
by S~V~S
Voting MP~ going with the plan unless/until something happens to disrupt it. And MM, it was INHs' strategy; MP picked up his ball and ran with it.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:40 pm
by Mongoose
Sincere question -- is there a reason y'all are voting so early instead of watching how things play out over the next day?

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:49 pm
by Vompatti
I have hard evidence that MP is not the culprit, and I don't feel like randomizing at the moment.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:51 pm
by insertnamehere
insertnamehere wrote:Yessss, game!

So, from looking at the roles, it looks like there is a way for everyone to win.

What about this: We only lynch Animals. This would require that the Animals reveal their team. Blank Frank and Baby's on Fire refuse to use their NK. Then, after 6 days and nights, we are left with
6 Gals, who all instantly win, 6 Fellas, who all instantly win, and 6 dead Animals, who (due to the fact that members of their team can win while dead) instantly win also.

It's a win-win-win.

Who's with me? : :omg:
REPOSTING FOR MONGOOSE AND VOMPATTI

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:51 pm
by insertnamehere
MovingPictures07 wrote:You know, just to show how committed I am to this and how I really think it's the best option for everyone:

I am an Animal.

Feel free to lynch me on Day 1.

That way no one else has to team claim and we can see how this plan is going to play out. I'm willing to sacrifice my life in order to pursue this.
REPOSTING FOR MONGOOSE AND VOMPATTI

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:53 pm
by Vompatti
Killing animals is wrong unless we eat them.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:56 pm
by insertnamehere
Vompatti wrote:Killing animals is wrong unless we eat them.
Can I get a Vompatti translator over here?

So, you disagree with the plan? Do you have a reason why?

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:57 pm
by S~V~S
Mongoose wrote:Sincere question -- is there a reason y'all are voting so early instead of watching how things play out over the next day?
Did you not read the plan? Most boring Mafia game ever but everyone wins. I have my doubts, it is TOO easy (read the win con's and rules) but worth a try until someone uses their powers OR there is a modkill OR an animal doesn't volunteer.

So basically so long as someone volunteers and there are no NKs or modkills, in theory it should work.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:58 pm
by Mongoose
My bad, I read the plan, but I just went back and read MP's posts -- I hadn't caught that he had outed himself as an Animal.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:58 pm
by Vompatti
insertnamehere wrote:
Vompatti wrote:Killing animals is wrong unless we eat them.
Can I get a Vompatti translator over here?

So, you disagree with the plan? Do you have a reason why?
You have no proof that MP or anyone else claiming to be an animal is an animal. Ergo the plan is flawed!

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:59 pm
by insertnamehere
Vompatti wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
Vompatti wrote:Killing animals is wrong unless we eat them.
Can I get a Vompatti translator over here?

So, you disagree with the plan? Do you have a reason why?
You have no proof that MP or anyone else claiming to be an animal is an animal. Ergo the plan is flawed!
Why would MP lie? And do you have anything better to base this lynch off of?

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:00 pm
by S~V~S
If MP is not an animal claiming he is would be rather a quixotic thing to do. MP may be many things, but I don';t think "quixotic" is one of them.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:01 pm
by Vompatti
insertnamehere wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
Vompatti wrote:Killing animals is wrong unless we eat them.
Can I get a Vompatti translator over here?

So, you disagree with the plan? Do you have a reason why?
You have no proof that MP or anyone else claiming to be an animal is an animal. Ergo the plan is flawed!
Why would MP lie? And do you have anything better to base this lynch off of?
I could see myself voting for you for suggesting a plan that's likely to fail. :mafia:

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:03 pm
by Mongoose
I'm cynical that this is going to work, but I have no reason to doubt MP. I can't think of one reason he'd lie about that.

Unless a lynch attempt powers him up somehow? Probably not, right.

Sure, I'm in.

linki @ Vomps - that's not an invalid line of thinking, sug.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:07 pm
by S~V~S
Not interested in a thread where not going along with, or fully understanding, the plan is cause for attack. I agree with Mongoose in that i will believe it when i see it. It's TOO easy; it can't be as straightforward as it seems.

People sign up for games hoping to play, INH. I would rather have fun & lose than vote for volunteers, but it is what it is, I guess. I already voted for the animal volunteer. C'ya.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:25 pm
by Bass_the_Clever
So let me get this right, Mp wants us to lynch only animals and people aren't suppose to use their night kills so everyone wins? Do I have that right??

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:32 pm
by Marmot
Vompatti wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
Vompatti wrote:Killing animals is wrong unless we eat them.
Can I get a Vompatti translator over here?

So, you disagree with the plan? Do you have a reason why?
You have no proof that MP or anyone else claiming to be an animal is an animal. Ergo the plan is flawed!
So if we don't kill an animal, then we kill a liar.

Both are edible.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:39 pm
by juliets
But why would MP tell us he's an animal and to lynch him, if he's not an animal?

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:51 pm
by Tangrowth
I don't understand the cynicism from ANYONE.

Whose best interest is it to sabotage this plan? No one's.

We can all win. Why not accomplish it?

If nonparticipants get modkilled and that ruins the plan, what's the problem with trying? We don't know whether Llama is going to modkill anyone randomly for any reason, or whether he'll have a host event that causes an imbalance -- all perhaps unlikely, IMO, but totally uncontrollable and thus not worth analyzing.

Everything that is within every player's control this game is whether we all win.

Voting myself.

Can we all actually trust each other for once when we have the once in a lifetime mafia chance where it makes sense to do so?

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:54 pm
by Bass_the_Clever
MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't understand the cynicism from ANYONE.

Whose best interest is it to sabotage this plan? No one's.

We can all win. Why not accomplish it?

If nonparticipants get modkilled and that ruins the plan, what's the problem with trying? We don't know whether Llama is going to modkill anyone randomly for any reason, or whether he'll have a host event that causes an imbalance -- all perhaps unlikely, IMO, but totally uncontrollable and thus not worth analyzing.

Everything that is within every player's control this game is whether we all win.

Voting myself.

Can we all actually trust each other for once when we have the once in a lifetime mafia chance where it makes sense to do so?
I think if there is a shot of everyone winning we should try it.
Voting MP

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:57 pm
by Tangrowth
Indeed.

Apparently the only one that might disagree is Vompatti, but considering he trolls half the time, he's probably just as uncontrollable as a host event.

I'm putting my faith in the plan (that INH proposed) because I think it's actually able to be accomplished, as long as every single one of us refuses to kill and use our night powers.

As I've said, I also think -- just to ensure in case there is resistance or unforeseen circumstances, that only ONE Animal volunteer him or herself up at the beginning of every lynch.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:58 pm
by Mongoose
I mean a win is a win, but it doesn't feel as good as you win on a technicality. And I'd be as sad as a bison if it happened in my game.

BUT for Day 1, this is as good a place as any to start.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:59 pm
by Marmot
I'm voting myself because frankly, I just feel like it.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:01 pm
by Tangrowth
Mongoose wrote:I mean a win is a win, but it doesn't feel as good as you win on a technicality. And I'd be as sad as a bison if it happened in my game.

BUT for Day 1, this is as good a place as any to start.
What?

What's wrong with it?

If anything, it's completely in the spirit of the game, and I'm certain it's a scenario Llama considered.




Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm voting myself because frankly, I just feel like it.
:|

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:03 pm
by Vompatti
I vote for INH because it's the right thing to do.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:14 pm
by Mongoose
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Mongoose wrote:I mean a win is a win, but it doesn't feel as good as you win on a technicality. And I'd be as sad as a bison if it happened in my game.

BUT for Day 1, this is as good a place as any to start.
What?

What's wrong with it?

If anything, it's completely in the spirit of the game, and I'm certain it's a scenario Llama considered.
It's certainly an oblique strategy!

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:14 pm
by insertnamehere
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Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:15 pm
by Tangrowth
I echo INH's sentiment. Lol.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:16 pm
by Tangrowth
Nonetheless, I still want try my part in ensuring a possible win, and that's all I can do.

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:16 pm
by Mongoose
Can't we go one game without the passive-aggressive wall o' smileys?

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:18 pm
by insertnamehere
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
Vompatti wrote:Killing animals is wrong unless we eat them.
Can I get a Vompatti translator over here?

So, you disagree with the plan? Do you have a reason why?
You have no proof that MP or anyone else claiming to be an animal is an animal. Ergo the plan is flawed!
So if we don't kill an animal, then we kill a liar.

Both are edible.
How am I lying? I could see how I could be called stupid, or even wrong, but how am I lying?

Re: Oblique Strategies - an Eno Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:20 pm
by Marmot
insertnamehere wrote: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall: :solitary: :wall:
This would make for a good Talking Heads cover graphic.