The Donner Party - Day 7

[thellama73]

I haven't gone on a really good low poster crusade since American Gods. It might be time.

[S~V~S]

[Tangrowth]

Everyone should send in their night actions already so we can start lunching people.

[Epignosis]

How about we lynch Epi on D1?

I taste terrible. Unless you like Rocky Mountain Oysters.

[S~V~S]

You taste like calf testicles?

[Tangrowth]

So I realize now that there will be at least some semblance of evidence, even on D1. Because there is so much BTSC, obviously players will be hesitant to lynch anyone else in their own BTSC group. Typically, civilians would be hesitant to defend teammates, but in a game such as this where roles and alignments could switch, there is less incentive to worry about being NKed as a result of defending a civilian teammate. Of course, baddies will be doing this as well, but even if roles are switching, we should still be able to compile information at snapshots, rather than over time.

[Tangrowth]

Nonetheless, I'm not advocating any outing or hinting (god knows we've had enough of that recently), but there MUST be a way to avoid random, meaningless lynches, and I think we can piece together events and evidence as they happen -- it will just be difficult at first, and will require some out of the box thinking.

I also implore all of the civilian BTSC groups to come up with a mechanism, if possible, to discern whether one of your current BTSCmates flips baddie later, by catching them in a lie. I am in the process of developing such a mechanism myself, and I think I finally have something. If different BTSC groups can come up with different mechanisms, perhaps it will be possible to tell whether a civilian flips baddie using more than snapshot lynch evidence.

In addition, I think I've uncovered the reason why roles and alignments are subject to switching; it's because of Wasatch Mountains. Obviously, if someone were to get lynched in someone else's place, not only would we lose a baddie, but we would know who the Mountains are. So perhaps the switching is mostly a mechanism by which to not unfairly punish that baddie team. I suppose we will find out how often and how much switching occurs once it happens though, but I suspect that maybe it won't be as much as I was thinking before (not sure if anyone else was thinking this, but I figured everyone would switch every cycle).

[Epignosis]

You taste like calf testicles?

I'm udderly fantastic and full of bull, so I guess.

[Marmot]

According to the poll, this is the only poll that means nothing, which means that every other poll in this game will mean something. But we've run into a problem. That means this poll means something, because it carries a message on the rest of the game. So we must assume that this poll is a lie, and that we know nothing about what will happen the rest of the game. We must also be careful and carefully consider how many spreadsheets Roxy uses for games, as it may have implications on future occurrences.

Addendum: I'm self-voting.

[Tangrowth]

I will vote for you, MM, if you self vote. I think that sets a ridiculous precedent and no civilian should EVER self vote when he or she could at least vote for someone else, who isn't in their BTSC group, at random -- and have a chance at catching someone bad.

Self voters beware. I will vote for you on D1.

[thellama73]

I will vote for you, MM, if you self vote. I think that sets a ridiculous precedent and no civilian should EVER self vote when he or she could at least vote for someone else, who isn't in their BTSC group, at random -- and have a chance at catching someone bad.

Self voters beware. I will vote for you on D1.

What if everyone self-votes? You can't lunch us all!

[Tangrowth]

The civilian self-voting needs to stop.

At least randomize your vote, for goodness sake. Who would have ever thought I'd be saying THAT?

Then I will vote the first person who does it because I think it's ridiculously stupid.

[Marmot]

I will vote for you, MM, if you self vote. I think that sets a ridiculous precedent and no civilian should EVER self vote when he or she could at least vote for someone else, who isn't in their BTSC group, at random -- and have a chance at catching someone bad.

Self voters beware. I will vote for you on D1.

Don't worry. I checked the poll and I'm not on it, so my plan has failed... for now.

I'd rather eat marmot than sock though.

[Zombarella]

That does look like a pretty disgusting sock.

[Marmot]

Henry Cow probably wouldn't taste bad, probably better than Rob.

[Tangrowth]

That does look like a pretty disgusting sock.

Yes, all the more reason you shouldn't lunch me D1.

But the music contained within is so, so good.

[thellama73]

That does look like a pretty disgusting sock.

Yes, all the more reason you shouldn't lunch me D1.

But the music contained within is so, so good.

I wouldn't know since Amazon still hasn't tracked down a copy of Western Culture. You guys should all order one, so thta maybe the increased demand will spur them into action.

[Marmot]

That does look like a pretty disgusting sock.

Yes, all the more reason you shouldn't lunch me D1.

But the music contained within is so, so good.

I wouldn't know since Amazon still hasn't tracked down a copy of Western Culture. You guys should all order one, so thta maybe the increased demand will spur them into action.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HENRY-COW-WESTE ... 58b80218d8

These guys are sellers on Amazon.

[thellama73]

That does look like a pretty disgusting sock.

Yes, all the more reason you shouldn't lunch me D1.

But the music contained within is so, so good.

I wouldn't know since Amazon still hasn't tracked down a copy of Western Culture. You guys should all order one, so thta maybe the increased demand will spur them into action.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HENRY-COW-WESTE ... 58b80218d8

These guys are sellers on Amazon.

I've already placed my order, and it was with a gift card, and I'm worried if I try to change it, I won't be able to use the money for something else. I can wait.

[triceratopzeuhl]

You taste like calf testicles?

I thought those were called prairie oysters. There are not a lot of cattle in the rocky mountains

[Epignosis]

Since I can't die, I'm going to just say that Ricochet sounds like a newbie bad guy to me.

[Dom]

Since I can't die, I'm going to just say that Ricochet sounds like a newbie bad guy to me.

He's in another game too

[Epignosis]

Since I can't die, I'm going to just say that Ricochet sounds like a newbie bad guy to me.

He's in another game too

Ah, so you're defending him then.

Got it.

Touches nose.

Moves on.

[Zombarella]

Since I can't die, I'm going to just say that Ricochet sounds like a newbie bad guy to me.

He's in another game too

Ah, so you're defending him then.

Got it.

Touches nose.

Moves on.

He who smelt it, dealt it.

[Epignosis]

Since I can't die, I'm going to just say that Ricochet sounds like a newbie bad guy to me.

He's in another game too

Ah, so you're defending him then.

Got it.

Touches nose.

Moves on.

He who smelt it, dealt it.

Infodumping.

[Tangrowth]

Since I can't die, I'm going to just say that Ricochet sounds like a newbie bad guy to me.

Why?

[Snowman]

Why indeed, and why is Epignosis trying so hard to stir the pot? Guilty much?

[Epignosis]

Since I can't die, I'm going to just say that Ricochet sounds like a newbie bad guy to me.

Why?

It doesn't matter anymore. Dom vouched for him.

I'll just wait until I think Ricochet has a bad role and then I'll push for his lynch.

[Epignosis]

Why indeed, and why is Epignosis trying so hard to stir the pot? Guilty much?

Ooo...you are good.

Nice avatar.

[thellama73]

I think Ricochet is bad too, but then I always think that about him.

[Marmot]

I think Ricochet is bad too, but then I always think that about him.

Before you know it, your suspicion will be moot.

[Zombarella]

Since I can't die, I'm going to just say that Ricochet sounds like a newbie bad guy to me.

He's in another game too

Ah, so you're defending him then.

Got it.

Touches nose.

Moves on.

He who smelt it, dealt it.

Infodumping.

Hold up. Are you accusing me? Explain....explain....(since I'm new, not because I'm a dalek)

[Epignosis]

Are you bad? Then yes, I am accusing you.

Are you good? Then nope! Just passing by.

[Zombarella]

Are you bad? Then yes, I am accusing you.

Are you good? Then nope! Just passing by.

Sorry - I mean accusing me of infodumping.

[Russtifinko]

WARNING!!
I will not be making a poll thread you will have to track votes yourselves this game!
Day 0 ends very shortly-----

Oh my god this smiley....

So I realize now that there will be at least some semblance of evidence, even on D1. Because there is so much BTSC, obviously players will be hesitant to lynch anyone else in their own BTSC group. Typically, civilians would be hesitant to defend teammates, but in a game such as this where roles and alignments could switch, there is less incentive to worry about being NKed as a result of defending a civilian teammate. Of course, baddies will be doing this as well, but even if roles are switching, we should still be able to compile information at snapshots, rather than over time.

As to the first part of this post, MP, why not? If were all switching anyway, I can't see any reason at all not to push for the lynch of my current teammates.

Unless of course they would all turn and vote for me for voting one of them, but that assumes they ascribe to an unwritten code of not lynching BTSC mates that really holds no value for them, and that they have arbitrary but strong and misplaced senses of justice.

Why indeed, and why is Epignosis trying so hard to stir the pot? Guilty much?

He stirs a lot of pots; he's training to be a wizard. <-- (closest to a wizard I could get. FIX IT, MIGHTY SOCKMAN!)

But seriously, he probably is bad. Let's lunch him.

And Roxy has 6 spreadsheets. She told me in our BTSC.

[Russtifinko]

Do you think one of these will show up?? I fervently hope so (hint, hint, hostess!)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendigo

[Tangrowth]

Why indeed, and why is Epignosis trying so hard to stir the pot? Guilty much?

Haha, love it.

But I wouldn't say this is atypical of Epi; he and Llama are perhaps the most notorious for stirring up the pot early on in games, regardless of alignment.

So I realize now that there will be at least some semblance of evidence, even on D1. Because there is so much BTSC, obviously players will be hesitant to lynch anyone else in their own BTSC group. Typically, civilians would be hesitant to defend teammates, but in a game such as this where roles and alignments could switch, there is less incentive to worry about being NKed as a result of defending a civilian teammate. Of course, baddies will be doing this as well, but even if roles are switching, we should still be able to compile information at snapshots, rather than over time.

As to the first part of this post, MP, why not? If were all switching anyway, I can't see any reason at all not to push for the lynch of my current teammates.

Unless of course they would all turn and vote for me for voting one of them, but that assumes they ascribe to an unwritten code of not lynching BTSC mates that really holds no value for them, and that they have arbitrary but strong and misplaced senses of justice.

What? That doesn't make sense, for two reasons:
1) If you KNOW your civilian teammates are civilian right now, why would you lead their lynch right now? Just because they might not be aligned with you later does not change the fact that they are civilian right now.
2) We don't know how the switch mechanism is going to work just yet, so it could very well be possible that not all of us switch every cycle.

[Tangrowth]

Right now, Russ. Right now. :P

Reading over my post, I didn't realize I said that three times.

[Dom]

Since I can't die, I'm going to just say that Ricochet sounds like a newbie bad guy to me.

He's in another game too

Ah, so you're defending him then.

Got it.

Touches nose.

Moves on.

yup

Since I can't die, I'm going to just say that Ricochet sounds like a newbie bad guy to me.

Why?

It doesn't matter anymore. Dom vouched for him.

I'll just wait until I think Ricochet has a bad role and then I'll push for his lynch.

LOL

[Marmot]

Why indeed, and why is Epignosis trying so hard to stir the pot? Guilty much?

Haha, love it.

But I wouldn't say this is atypical of Epi; he and Llama are perhaps the most notorious for stirring up the pot early on in games, regardless of alignment.

What am I, chopped liver?

[Zombarella]

Why indeed, and why is Epignosis trying so hard to stir the pot? Guilty much?

Haha, love it.

But I wouldn't say this is atypical of Epi; he and Llama are perhaps the most notorious for stirring up the pot early on in games, regardless of alignment.

What am I, chopped liver?

Chopped marmot liver...yum

[Marmot]

Why indeed, and why is Epignosis trying so hard to stir the pot? Guilty much?

Haha, love it.

But I wouldn't say this is atypical of Epi; he and Llama are perhaps the most notorious for stirring up the pot early on in games, regardless of alignment.

What am I, chopped liver?

Chopped marmot liver...yum

Alex invited some strange people to play with us already strange folk.

I think we should sacrifice a newbie for the Day 1 lunch.

[Zombarella]

Why indeed, and why is Epignosis trying so hard to stir the pot? Guilty much?

Haha, love it.

But I wouldn't say this is atypical of Epi; he and Llama are perhaps the most notorious for stirring up the pot early on in games, regardless of alignment.

What am I, chopped liver?

Chopped marmot liver...yum

Alex invited some strange people to play with us already strange folk.

I think we should sacrifice a newbie for the Day 1 lunch.

Yikes!

[triceratopzeuhl]

I could go for some nice tender young newbie flesh

[triceratopzeuhl]

that statement somehow seems that much worse with my avatar

[Marmot]

that statement somehow seems that much worse with my avatar

[Snowman]

that statement somehow seems that much worse with my avatar

Agreed. Normally I'd suggest a nice aged veteran player for Lunch, but given your avatar, I'm pretty sure I'd leave the meal with a cold sore.

[Tangrowth]

Why indeed, and why is Epignosis trying so hard to stir the pot? Guilty much?

Haha, love it.

But I wouldn't say this is atypical of Epi; he and Llama are perhaps the most notorious for stirring up the pot early on in games, regardless of alignment.

What am I, chopped liver?

Chopped marmot liver...yum

Alex invited some strange people to play with us already strange folk.

I think we should sacrifice a newbie for the Day 1 lunch.

Man, you're just trying everything to get my vote on D1, aren't you?

[Marmot]

Why indeed, and why is Epignosis trying so hard to stir the pot? Guilty much?

Haha, love it.

But I wouldn't say this is atypical of Epi; he and Llama are perhaps the most notorious for stirring up the pot early on in games, regardless of alignment.

What am I, chopped liver?

Chopped marmot liver...yum

Alex invited some strange people to play with us already strange folk.

I think we should sacrifice a newbie for the Day 1 lunch.

Man, you're just trying everything to get my vote on D1, aren't you?

Or we could have Spacedaisy for lunch.

[Tangrowth]

Or we could have Spacedaisy for lunch.

She's not even playing, but if she was: