The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:20 pm**

Long Con, don't wrek me bro

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:12 pm**

DrWilgy wrote:Long Con, don't wrek me bro

Ok bro. I only moved my vote to you because it was a whole array of one-vote folks, and you made DFaraday the only two-vote guy. I thought putting a pressure vote on someone else who had a single vote might result in more information than leaving it in a sea of one-votes.

Now things are different, and I think Floyd's 2 posts leave some to be desired. Currently tying the vote at two-apiece between DFaraday, DrWilgy, and TheFloyd73.

*votes TheFloyd73*

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:34 pm**

Long Con wrote:
Typhoony wrote:Long Con
Why Long Con, Typh ol' buddy ol' pal?

Wilgy asked for baddies to vote him.
You voted Wilgy.
So you've got some explaining to do

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:12 pm**

Typhoony wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Typhoony wrote:Long Con
Why Long Con, Typh ol' buddy ol' pal?
Wilgy asked for baddies to vote him.
You voted Wilgy.
So you've got some explaining to do

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:03 pm**

Typhoony wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Typhoony wrote:Long Con
Why Long Con, Typh ol' buddy ol' pal?
Wilgy asked for baddies to vote him.
You voted Wilgy.
So you've got some explaining to do

That is rather criminally incriminating, but I did just explain my Wilgy vote, and I had already changed my vote to Floyd before you mentioned it, so I think that's all in order.

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:12 pm**

Going to make this a 4 way tie and vote for Matt, for now.

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:28 pm**

Hey Matt, if you vote Long Con with me, it's a 5-way tie

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:28 pm**

I might end up voting Matt just for being a butt but I've not yet decided. From looking at the way votes have fallen I wouldn't be surprised if we end up having a tie between everybody!

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:35 pm**

Oh I see you haven't voted yet. Vote Long Con with me Bullz!

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:40 pm**

I suppose I can get behind a five-way tie for the time being... May change later though!

*LC*

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:41 pm**

In fact I almost definitely will change my vote at some point but this huge tie just looks cool.

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:50 pm**

Bullzeye wrote:In fact I almost definitely will change my vote at some point but this huge tie just looks cool.

Want to see something else that's huge and looks cool, Bulldog? Got it right here.

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:14 pm**

SVS and Sorsha - Came home from work and saw two votes on me from ya all!

On the real, in case ya all didn't know, Bullz is one of my favoritest players in Mafia, and I always have fun with him. He was also my baddie teammate in Beatles Mafia (first game ever) and for some reason, I can never shake the feeling that he's bad. I don't consider what I'm doing as "picking on him", and I don't think he does either. Bullz, seriously, speak up dude.

Here are some quotes from recent games...

Mafia: A World Reborn

Matt wrote:
DFaraday wrote:
Matt F wrote:Why do you want to look over my posts, DF, do you think I'm bad?
I'm just not entirely convinced you wanted to save Luke just because he's new. But as that's pretty much the only ping I have from you, I'm definitely more interested in Floyd right now.
I'm interested in Metalmarsh. And Turnip Head. Maybe both of them.

Oh and Bullzeye, always Bullzeye

Talking Heads

Here's a post I made after the game was over...

Matt wrote:Here are my targets for each night... On Night's 3 and 5, I targetted Bullz with another RYMer because I assumed Bullz was a Syndicateer. However, Bullz replaced san mateo. I'm not sure if MP let the Night 3 slide, but on Night 5 I believe I was told my power didn't go through that night because we found the error.

Anyway...

Night 1. Hit Long Con Secondary Targets: Wilgy and 3J (2 out of 3 baddies!)

Night 3. Hit Devin (Draconus) Secondary Targets: Choutas and Bullzeye (1 out of 3 baddies!)

Night 4. Hit Bullzeye Secondary Targets: MacDougall and Devin (Draconus) (2 out of 3 baddies!)

Night 5. Hit Floyd Secondary Targets: Bullzeye and 3J (2 out of 3 baddies!)

Night 7. Hit Epignosis Secondary Targets: motel room and Russ (1 out of 3 baddies!)

Night 9. Hit 3J Secondary Targets: Ricochet and motel room (0 out of 3 baddies )

Looking back, I had a way better night action game then I realized.

Smashfest Season 2 Signups and Draft

[quote="Matt]In! I don't know what this is, but Bullz is dissing Mega Man so he must be bad?[/quote]

***

I would invite you both to remove your votes off me and place them on Bullz as he is most likely bad in this game as well.

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:29 pm**

Bullzeye wrote:I suppose I can get behind a five-way tie for the time being... May change later though!

*LC*

Originally, it was a fun changeable vote, but after several players have looked at me hardcore for daring to suspect poor Bullz, and then posts like this...

Why do you want a five way tie?

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:27 pm**

I am not a socialist, although some people tell me I put too many different spices in my spaghetti sauce if you know what I mean.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:29 am**

a2thezebra wrote:I am not a socialist, although some people tell me I put too many different spices in my spaghetti sauce if you know what I mean.

*nods slowly with unsure expression*

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:16 am**

I'm votin for my spottieottiedopaliscious nutella. Damn damn damn damn.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:48 am**

@Matt- I didn't think you were picking on him. You just started out kinda jokey about the bullz thing then turned serious about it when no one was agreeing.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:15 am**

Arrivederci!

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:05 am**

Chucking a vote on Matt for the moment. I don't know why his reason for voting for Bullz is "he was scum in other games, must be scum here," it's pedestrian at best.

Long Con wrote:Now things are different, and I think Floyd's 2 posts leave some to be desired. Currently tying the vote at two-apiece between DFaraday, DrWilgy, and TheFloyd73.

*votes TheFloyd73*

Desire be desire go, my friend. Ask away.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:02 am**

a2thezebra wrote:Arrivederci!

Why good morning!

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:28 am**

Matt wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:I suppose I can get behind a five-way tie for the time being... May change later though!

*LC*
Originally, it was a fun changeable vote, but after several players have looked at me hardcore for daring to suspect poor Bullz, and then posts like this...

Why do you want a five way tie?

Why shouldn't I? Should I be taking day 1 more seriously? This is ridiculous. You say you always suspect me and all this but you never come right out of the gate before I've even had the chance to contribute and start trying to set me up for a lynch. Now you've found fault with a fun vote as if that justifies your weak arguments in any way. I'll break the tie if it means so much to you. *Votes Matt*

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:32 am**

I'm not familiar with Matt's baddie game. I am however familiar with his civ and indy game, and this seems in tune with that.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:33 am**

I am tempted to vote Floyd for breaking this glorious tie, or Epi for not making it an even bigger tie.

But I'll change my vote to SVS for now, because she seemed to be setting up a vote on DF if Matt wasn't going to post something suspicious here, which he seemingly has done now. I don't see it, but okay.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:49 am**

SVS is good. She's my strongest town read so far.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:52 am**

So who's your least strong civ read?

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:06 am**

Interesting question. Do you actually mean baddie reads, or just the weakest of my civ reads?

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:16 am**

a2thezebra wrote:SVS is good. She's my strongest town read so far.

Well, the fact is that I am. But I have to commend you on this, as I have not said much srs here . I will fear you when I am bad.

The whole Wilgy/faraday thing is weird. I don't know that extreme distancing is a working strategy in games with 13 people, though.

And Matt, I am not a fan of joke votes or voting for people for silly reasons, even if votes are changeable. Especially on Day One. If that person gets lynched, you have ruined their game over a joke. Now if theyare bad, well, thats the risk one take when bad. And I am sure you would bask in the glory of catching a baddie. But if they are not bad, then the person who led the lynch (and dude, I am not lecturing, I have been the one leading the charge myself that killed a civ Day One more than once, or thrice) is all like, "Aw, it was just a joke, all those people did not need to follow me".

So I don't necessarily true believe you are bad here or not~ although for all I know that extreme distancing comment I made applies to you & Bullz as well as, or instead of, Wilgy & faraday. But I really don't like your pushing of a joke (or is it a joke?) as a suspicion, and not liking someone vote is as good a reason for voting them on Day One as anyother. So for now I am leaving the vote where it is, I should be home before the day is over and will pop in during the day.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:18 am**

a2thezebra wrote:Interesting question. Do you actually mean baddie reads, or just the weakest of my civ reads?

They are the same as far as I'm concerned.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:02 am**

S~V~S wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:SVS is good. She's my strongest town read so far.
Well, the fact is that I am. But I have to commend you on this, as I have not said much srs here . I will fear you when I am bad.

Dawwww thanks

Typhoony wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:Interesting question. Do you actually mean baddie reads, or just the weakest of my civ reads?
They are the same as far as I'm concerned.

Good point, considering how early we are into the game. I'm afraid Wilgy is still my top suspect, for reasons I stated when I voted for him. I don't strongly suspect him but so far he's pinged me the most. His play style so far is identical to Star Wars where I was his teammate, and yet he's acknowledged before that his meta is to intentionally change his play style each game. He's got plenty of room and time to redeem his alignment in my view, but he's yet to take the opportunity to do so. Who do you suspect besides SVS?

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:18 am**

Typhoony wrote:I am tempted to vote Floyd for breaking this glorious tie, or Epi for not making it an even bigger tie.

But I'll change my vote to SVS for now, because she seemed to be setting up a vote on DF if Matt wasn't going to post something suspicious here, which he seemingly has done now. I don't see it, but okay.

It was a good point, though. Do you think your point was not good? And of Wilgy/faraday, the thing that most seemed off to me was his silly-early self save vote. So yeah, I was setting myself up for a potential switch to faraday should Matt convince me of his earnestness. Which he has not. You think only baddies do this? But it's still nice to know that you don't read me as well as I would expect you too.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:18 am**

OMG, expect you *to* not too

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:38 am**

S~V~S wrote:
Typhoony wrote:I am tempted to vote Floyd for breaking this glorious tie, or Epi for not making it an even bigger tie.

But I'll change my vote to SVS for now, because she seemed to be setting up a vote on DF if Matt wasn't going to post something suspicious here, which he seemingly has done now. I don't see it, but okay.
It was a good point, though. Do you think your point was not good? And of Wilgy/faraday, the thing that most seemed off to me was his silly-early self save vote. So yeah, I was setting myself up for a potential switch to faraday should Matt convince me of his earnestness. Which he has not. You think only baddies do this? But it's still nice to know that you don't read me as well as I would expect you too.

I don't think I can read you well at all. I don't know why you think I can honestly.
I was mostly testing the waters, seeing how you would respond. Which was fine for now. I like to get clearer reads on people that have the ability to convince me early on, and you are one of those people.

@ Zebra: I don't know who I suspect. It doesn't really help that the one time a poll ends at a decent time for me, I probably will not be around at the end so I have to vote pretty soon. I'll see what I can come up with in the next hour.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:57 am**

Woof.

Sorry for not being around all the past day- it's been quite busy and isn't slowing down. I'm literally the epitome of who I would vote for on day 1.

My original vote for DFaraday was because he was the only one that hadn't checked in. Now that he's checked in, I need to start looking at people that raise my fancy. I hate Day 1.

I'm at work on phone and will be up until the deadline, so I not gonna bother quoting right now and sorry about not formatting:
-LC has been all over the place this day 1. He's seemingly swaying with the wind.
-Matt made a joke vote, but then came back with a detailed post about why he is seriously considering Bullz. Seemed a little out of left field.
-Nutella has voted for Floyd because [reasons??]
-Epignosis looks great in a ripped plaid shirt
-SVS is getting a little haughty about "ruining someone's game" by putting a joke vote. I don't understand how Matt voting for Bullz ruined anyone's game.
-Floyd isn't striking me as bad right now.
-As for the Wilgy thing, I see nothing suspicious as of now with how he has acted/voted. (But I swear to god I will kill him in his sleep if he backstabs me) He said he was voting with me, so what's the big deal?
-DFaraday voting to "save himself" a day and a half early does make me a bit wary, but I'm not one to talk on account of my absence in the thread.

All that amounts to some people looking suspicious, but then who the hell knows. I envy people that can pick apart people's few posts without data to catch a baddie.

@Wilgy who is your biggest suspicion right now? I'll vote with you if you're feeling more convinced on someone.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:08 am**

Typhoony wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Typhoony wrote:I am tempted to vote Floyd for breaking this glorious tie, or Epi for not making it an even bigger tie.

But I'll change my vote to SVS for now, because she seemed to be setting up a vote on DF if Matt wasn't going to post something suspicious here, which he seemingly has done now. I don't see it, but okay.
It was a good point, though. Do you think your point was not good? And of Wilgy/faraday, the thing that most seemed off to me was his silly-early self save vote. So yeah, I was setting myself up for a potential switch to faraday should Matt convince me of his earnestness. Which he has not. You think only baddies do this? But it's still nice to know that you don't read me as well as I would expect you too.
I don't think I can read you well at all. I don't know why you think I can honestly.
I was mostly testing the waters, seeing how you would respond. Which was fine for now. I like to get clearer reads on people that have the ability to convince me early on, and you are one of those people.

@ Zebra: I don't know who I suspect. It doesn't really help that the one time a poll ends at a decent time for me, I probably will not be around at the end so I have to vote pretty soon. I'll see what I can come up with in the next hour.

I thought that mainly becasue of that one game on RM, trish hosted it I think with Unfurl maybe, I forget the theme, like a haunted house or something like that, it was soon after Rabbits LOST game. You pegged me as bad almost immediately for totally correct reasons.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:23 am**

House of Secrets. I went back and looked at it. Boy I was really agressive in that game

It was not almost immediately, it was Night 4 and it was based on very substantial stuff. Ask me again Night 4 if we ever get there and I'll tell you what I think.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:37 am**

Ok, no idea if the votes will stay like this at all, but I have to make a final vote now.

I don't find Matt suspicious, so I'm voting one of the peeps that have 2 votes atm.

- Floyd: 3 posts, but asks questions, is involved in those posts. Not suspicious to me at the moment.
- Wilgy: 9 posts. Wilgy gonna Wilgy. Zebra says he's playing the same as he was in Star Wars where he's bad. I can't make heads or tails of his posts atm.
- Dfaraday: 5 posts. Weird early self-preservation vote. Don't find the rest of his posts suspicious.

Guess I'll vote dfaraday for his early self-preservation vote. Good luck nubs.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:04 am**

@Scotty eh... Probably Zebra, I've noticed that baddies have a tendency to target me day one for Meta reasons simply because it's hard to punish. I change my game all the time so "let's slap a suspish sticker on it" seems to be the opportunism that is generated.

And Dfaraday's I'm self preserving early is also suspish. I don't see anyone doing that so early without a team commitment.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:09 am**

The plot thickens.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:48 pm**

Whoa whoa whoa. Four votes because I was having fun with Bullz?

This is messed up right here. I'm going to switch to DFaraday for preservation, and I know he said he'd switch to me for preservation, so I'm going to need someone to help me out here.

SVS - Is a joke vote any worse then a random or a self vote? Especially when it's changeable? I think you're being insincere, I don't ever recall you going after anyone else in games on Day one for making changeable joke votes. I also think you're using some extreme language with "ruining someone's game".

Sorsha - It did start out as a joke vote, but once I started getting heat for it from three different players (including yourself), it made me think someone was protecting Bullz. I'd also like to explore Bullz and Typh's (sorry Typh, thanks for not suspecting me! ha!) "Let's make a five way tie!" dealio, but I see I'm going to be in defense mode all day.

Floyd - Please don't. Let's lynch DF!

Bullz - I don't see how a five way tie benefits town at all. Please explain why you do.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:55 pm**

This was a tough choice, but I'm more confident that Matt is good than DFaraday being bad or good.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:55 pm**

And I'm willing to bet that one of them is bad. Two civ wagons on Day 1, I hope not.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:04 pm**

Matt wrote: Bullz - I don't see how a five way tie benefits town at all. Please explain why you do.

Quote me saying anything remotely close to "I think a five way tie benefits town" and then I will.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:15 pm**

Bullz, do you really think I'm bad or are you just sour because I suspected you? Maybe SVS is right and you don't enjoy my poking and prodding of you in every game? If so, my bad. Just havin' funsies, dude, I figured you knew that.

And no, I will not find a quote like that. However, you just agreeing with Typh on creating a five way tie is definitely suspish, and I'm amazed that nobody else sees that.

To anyone saying it's weird that my vote started as a joke and then developed into a real ping, are you saying I'm no longer allowed to suspect Bullz because I already jokingly suspected him? Someone please inform Metalmarsh of this new rule, I don't know what he'll do with hiimself.

Zebra - Thanks dudette! However, if you think we can get a bunch of people to pull their votes off of me AND DF and put them where they belong, on Bullz, I'm down!

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:19 pm**

Bullz is fine. Wilgy is bad.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:25 pm**

a2thezebra wrote:Bullz is fine. Wilgy is bad.

If you think Wilgy is bad, and Wilgy voted DF and DF voted Wilgy, and you voted DF...does this mean you think DF and Wilgy are partners who are distancing?

Why not Bullz? You don't find him agreeing with Typh on a five way tie is suspish? Bullz said it was a joke but...

Which reminds me. SVS. You apparently hate Day 1 joke votes. What is your opinion of Bullzeye voting for Long Con just for laughs and giggles to create a five way tie on Day one? You must take some kind of issue with that, yes?

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:37 pm**

Matt wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:Bullz is fine. Wilgy is bad.
If you think Wilgy is bad, and Wilgy voted DF and DF voted Wilgy, and you voted DF...does this mean you think DF and Wilgy are partners who are distancing?

No. I'm not confident about any of my reads at the moment, there just isn't enough to go on for me to make a conclusion that elaborate. I'm majorly pinged by Wilgy and I'm minorly pinged by DF.

Why not Bullz? You don't find him agreeing with Typh on a five way tie is suspish? Bullz said it was a joke but...

You haven't given me a decent reason to vote for Bullz.

Which reminds me. SVS. You apparently hate Day 1 joke votes. What is your opinion of Bullzeye voting for Long Con just for laughs and giggles to create a five way tie on Day one? You must take some kind of issue with that, yes?

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:38 pm**

I'm more confident about my town reads than my mafia reads, which discourages me since normally it's the other way around.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:50 pm**

I don't have any town reads atm.

Epig, nutella, Long Con...

Friends, buddies, how ya doin'? Nutella, Darkness old pal, how about a switch to DF? Long Con, you're that guy who created one of the best mafia games ever! How about a DF vote? Epig! Ummm Epig! DF?

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:57 pm**

Why would I want to save a tax-sucking, welfare-state-loving, spread-the-wealth-around, you-didn't-build-that Tuft-Head like you? On this island, the market is free, but the products ain't. You need something from me? Well...step right up and take a look. Just know that there's always a price.

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