Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Dammit, who the hell DIDN'T pick Ice Mountains? LOL.LittleTiger wrote:I keep meaning to mention the Stridor info - I picked Ice Mountains. Not much to say about that place and little to recommend it.
I'm beginning to fear what kind of effect being thrown into a slime pit might have had on DH. I can't imagine why he would say "Not happy" about surviving a supposed lynch.DharmaHelper wrote:Not happy
Carter is the plan cannot move.MovingPictures07 wrote:Can you elaborate publicly, DH? What's going on?
BWT - I would like you to explain why you thought my post addressing MP and outlining why I felt a bit pinged BY HIM, was me being defensive. I had wanted to bring this up during the last day period, but obviously, was unable to do so due to some nasty spider consumption.birdwithteeth11 wrote:Well now that I've re-read your initial post BF, I agree with what you were saying. I think I was just trying to say the same thing but might have used poor wording. However, this response to Vompatti got my attention:
Honestly, it makes you sound a bit wishy-washy. However, I'm not going to base my vote much on vehicle choices this early on. I think there are more substantial things we could be going off of.blindfaeth wrote:yes, yes i did. the point being my theory thinks its more likely that baddies are in the non-stridor votes, yet I'm voting for the baddie I found in the stridor vote
Two people that have surprised me so far have been boomslang and LT. I know both can sometimes come off as overly defensive, but it really seems to stick out in spades here. If I had to vote now I would lean for one of those two, but more likely Boomslang.
I won't quote all of the posts on this subject, but you seem to want to waste another lynch on Timmer, when, imo, it is clear that he is not on either baddie team. You also seem a bit flip floppy....birdwithteeth11 wrote:Btw I'm voting for Boardwalk and llama since they were the first two to volunteer for this task.
Also, I disagree with llama's assumption that Timmer has to be an indy, but I don't think it necessarily makes llama bad. I'd need more evidence to determine that.
on you, BWT!My main suspicion of Daisy stemmed from her day 1 vote - ignored all the suspicion in the thread and voted for someone who had not even been brought up. Tried to throw a No U at you.... just general baddie vibe from her direction. It would seem that another civvie also picked up on that suspicion, since she was killed by a civvie.MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't understand what DH just said there. I'm assuming he's insanified?
LT: Can you please elaborate? I think your thoughts are not be taken lightly and I'm glad you can speak again this period. BWT has been pinging me off and on all game, he was one of the people I was definitely hoping to re-read this weekend. I agree he has been flip floppy.
Why were you reading llama as good and Daisy as bad, out of curiosity? I am tempted to agree with both based on my gut reactions to their posts throughout the game, but I haven't much more than that, and I wouldn't say I'm close to confident on my gut reads for both. I was beginning to wonder if llama might be Horde if he was teamed with timmer, but I do still think timmer fitting Zodac would make sense, so if you can provide credence supporting that, that would be helpful.
Makes sense. Why are you so sure about timmer being Zodac? Are you insinuating that players trying to really push he was on The Horde might in fact be on The Horde instead? Just trying to understand your train of thought here.LittleTiger wrote:My main suspicion of Daisy stemmed from her day 1 vote - ignored all the suspicion in the thread and voted for someone who had not even been brought up. Tried to throw a No U at you.... just general baddie vibe from her direction. It would seem that another civvie also picked up on that suspicion, since she was killed by a civvie.MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't understand what DH just said there. I'm assuming he's insanified?
LT: Can you please elaborate? I think your thoughts are not be taken lightly and I'm glad you can speak again this period. BWT has been pinging me off and on all game, he was one of the people I was definitely hoping to re-read this weekend. I agree he has been flip floppy.
Why were you reading llama as good and Daisy as bad, out of curiosity? I am tempted to agree with both based on my gut reactions to their posts throughout the game, but I haven't much more than that, and I wouldn't say I'm close to confident on my gut reads for both. I was beginning to wonder if llama might be Horde if he was teamed with timmer, but I do still think timmer fitting Zodac would make sense, so if you can provide credence supporting that, that would be helpful.
I think llama was being helpful, thoughtful and being a high poster, he was for sure civvie. I agreed with a lot of what he had to say, tbh. As for Timmer, I really cannot understand why anyone would think he was on either baddie team, as I have already mentioned. The vote against him was practically unanimous, and the wording of the host post.... I'd say it is a safe bet that he is Zodac.
The problem is, Timmer didn't just survive the lynch - someone else got lynched instead of him. Who knows, maybe Timmer didn't switch it himself and somebody else did. But assuming Timmer did it, he couldn't be Teela or He-Man or She-Ra or Moss Man - because they can't make someone else die in their place. At least, that's what I gather. The consensus seems to be he is likely one of the roles with secrets, question is, which one.orsonkidd wrote:did i miss the vote? i thought it wasn't over til like nine?
I agree that the evil lynn thing might be explained by the player being moss man, who can't be lynched and that the post read more like that than being modok (sp)
For the first part, I'm a bit confused. What part of that quote you pulled pinged you?LittleTiger wrote:RIPiwg Vomp and Spacedaisy - although I was leaning bad for Daisy, and RIP to thellama73, as I am pretty sure you were civvie.
BWT - I would like you to explain why you thought my post addressing MP and outlining why I felt a bit pinged BY HIM, was me being defensive. I had wanted to bring this up during the last day period, but obviously, was unable to do so due to some nasty spider consumption.birdwithteeth11 wrote:Well now that I've re-read your initial post BF, I agree with what you were saying. I think I was just trying to say the same thing but might have used poor wording. However, this response to Vompatti got my attention:
Honestly, it makes you sound a bit wishy-washy. However, I'm not going to base my vote much on vehicle choices this early on. I think there are more substantial things we could be going off of.blindfaeth wrote:yes, yes i did. the point being my theory thinks its more likely that baddies are in the non-stridor votes, yet I'm voting for the baddie I found in the stridor vote
Two people that have surprised me so far have been boomslang and LT. I know both can sometimes come off as overly defensive, but it really seems to stick out in spades here. If I had to vote now I would lean for one of those two, but more likely Boomslang.
Also, I find that as I read your posts, you are pinging me in a big way.
I won't quote all of the posts on this subject, but you seem to want to waste another lynch on Timmer, when, imo, it is clear that he is not on either baddie team. You also seem a bit flip floppy....birdwithteeth11 wrote:Btw I'm voting for Boardwalk and llama since they were the first two to volunteer for this task.
Also, I disagree with llama's assumption that Timmer has to be an indy, but I don't think it necessarily makes llama bad. I'd need more evidence to determine that.
linki: DH! What is wrong?
You see where a gung ho attitude gets you? I am truly sorry you died, not just because I know but because I got a good vibe about you. Sorry I voted for you now but I believe you died because you had fewer votes than the other guy (Boardwalk?)...so blame it on not enough people voting for you.thellama73 wrote:Curse you, Webstor! You've not seen the last of me!
I meant to say..I am truly sorry you died, not just because I know you but becauseSnow Dog wrote:You see where a gung ho attitude gets you? I am truly sorry you died, not just because I know but because I got a good vibe about you. Sorry I voted for you now but I believe you died because you had fewer votes than the other guy (Boardwalk?)...so blame it on not enough people voting for you.thellama73 wrote:Curse you, Webstor! You've not seen the last of me!
But what a night!!! I am a bit shocked here by the whole thing. I presume if a person dies other than a lynch the identity is not revealed? Plus what is "killed by Snake Mountain!"?
I'm wondering the same thing.Snow Dog wrote: Plus what is "killed by Snake Mountain!"?
He-Man wrote:Rip everyone.
I still got my eye on DH
Isn't that technically a fall from grace?DharmaHelper wrote:He-Man wrote:Rip everyone.
I still got my eye on DH
Celebrity height
"Killed by Snake Mountain" likely refers to Snake Mountain's NK (night kill) capacity. All players who are lynched generally have their roles revealed. All players who get NKed (night killed) generally do NOT have their roles revealed.Snow Dog wrote: I presume if a person dies other than a lynch the identity is not revealed? Plus what is "killed by Snake Mountain!"?
I'll reread the recent posts and see if I remember.Come on, based on RL experiences you should know it was all skillRusstifinko wrote:Sooo I had a dream last night...has that happened to anyone else?
And by the way, excellent work Man-E-Faces! Brave. Ripiywg llama and vompatti, and good riddance to daisy. Looks like you got lucky, AATB
The more I think about it the more this post bothers me MP. Man-e-faces has a role check ability and he is a civvie. Why wouldn't daisy be bad?MovingPictures07 wrote:Wow, lots of death. RIPIYWG to all three. I guess that means we won't know about thellama or Daisy after all. I was leaning civvie on Vompatti, so that's a shame.
And, yeah, it seems DH wasn't lynched. Weird.
As in a host PM or something telling you your role had a dream? Bc in real life I have one every night lol. That's interesting, I wonder if that has anything to do with Madame razz or the sorceress.Russtifinko wrote:Sooo I had a dream last night...has that happened to anyone else?
And by the way, excellent work Man-E-Faces! Brave. Ripiywg llama and vompatti, and good riddance to daisy. Looks like you got lucky, AATB
So, you cannot remember that you found my posts to MP "defensive"?birdwithteeth11 wrote:Isn't that technically a fall from grace?DharmaHelper wrote:He-Man wrote:Rip everyone.
I still got my eye on DH
Celebrity height
@LT: I must be a durr-durr head or I'm skipping over it in my re-reading, but would you mind pulling up the quote between you and MP that you were referring to in your previous post?
LittleTiger wrote:
Here is what I think - I think you were a baddie looking for somewhere to stick a vote, specifically, a bandwagon where you could hide your baddie self. You saw an opportunity when MP and I started our little chat - aha! LT is usually a good place to start and MP is calling her "defensive", hops on. Unfortunately, you quickly realized that train wasn't leaving the station so you hopped another one. MP also caught that and when he asked you, you claimed you were not saying I was bad... yet you had already said that you were leaning towards a vote for me.
Go Tiger! Haha!As I said, I definitely found you being "defensive", but perhaps "over-defensive" was a big strong in terms of word choice, so I apologize for that. I am curious though as to why you didn't bother to bring this up any during Day 2. Is there a reason why?LittleTiger wrote:So, you cannot remember that you found my posts to MP "defensive"?birdwithteeth11 wrote:Isn't that technically a fall from grace?DharmaHelper wrote:He-Man wrote:Rip everyone.
I still got my eye on DH
Celebrity height
@LT: I must be a durr-durr head or I'm skipping over it in my re-reading, but would you mind pulling up the quote between you and MP that you were referring to in your previous post?
No, I remember what I said way back when. I just couldn't find it. As it turns out, I didn't go back far enough because I thought it happened more recently than it did.
Lets review, shall we? Sorry you were not able to find your own posts....and thus mine that you claimed were me being "over defensive":
Here is my first post mentioning my ping regarding MP.
I can understand not wanting the non-voters looked at on Day 1. I think most of the non-voters that early are civvies. If they were baddies, they would be getting more pressure from their teammates to start participating. In fact, you say right there that after his explanation of it, you agree with him.
Here is MP's response to my post accepting his explanation for his thoughts, and then also is my response to his continuing to defend even though I had accepted his explanation.
Nothing I don't disagree with you there. I do think MP can get a bit overly-aggressive at times, but I think that's just his playing style.
Here is where MP accused ME of being in defensive mode, which really had me scratching my head since I was not "defending" anything, I was accusing.
Yes, you were accusing him there of trying to take focus off the non-voters. He gave his reasons for wanting to stick away from that, and you said you accepted his explanation. Then you come back later and say you are suspicious of him because he keeps "hammering this thing home" all because you keep asking him about it? I don't get it. To me, it really sounds like you are twisting his words.
Here is my calm response to that.
In retrospect, some of this might appear really obvious on MP's part, since boomslang has since come back baddie. Maybe "overly-defensive" isn't the right choice of words, since I feel your version of "overly-defensive" tends to be emotionally-charged and a lot more negative/virulent. But to me, it still reads as you being defensive.
Here is you calling me "overly-defensive".
See previous response. Again, you don't seem to be getting really emotional or angry yet, but it is still defensive to me.
here, you will find quoted posts where first you state that you had been leaning towards boomslang and LT, but vote BF then when Mp says he found that "pingy" and if you brought LT up, why not he-man... you flip flop and say that you didn't think I was bad. Yet you clearly said you had been leaning towards a vote for me.
I never said I found you bad. I even clarified later on that I never said I found you bad (in one of the posts you quoted from me even, idk how you missed that one). I said I had found you to be ping-worthy. And honestly, most of my Day 1 votes tend to fall on who I feel is the most ping-worthy. I felt BF's reaction was more over-the-top than yours, which is why I ended up voting for him over you. I wouldn't necessarily call that flip-flopping.
here I ask again what it was that was "defensive" about me addressing something I found pingy about MP.
I am still awaiting a response from you on that.
Here is what I think - I think you were a baddie looking for somewhere to stick a vote, specifically, a bandwagon where you could hide your baddie self. You saw an opportunity when MP and I started our little chat - aha! LT is usually a good place to start and MP is calling her "defensive", hops on. Unfortunately, you quickly realized that train wasn't leaving the station so you hopped another one. MP also caught that and when he asked you, you claimed you were not saying I was bad... yet you had already said that you were leaning towards a vote for me.
Not really. Did you bother re-reading any of the conversation between BF and myself? I thought I clarified why I ended up voting for him over you, but apparently not. Might want to pay a bit more attention next time LT.
So, once again, why did you characterize my posts addressed to MP as "over defensive"?
Again, what about my posts accusing MP were "defensive"? I was the aggressor, not the defendee. So, how could I possibly be in "defensive" mode? It seemed odd to me then and still does. I do believe that I am correct in that you were looking for a place to hide your baddie vote.birdwithteeth11 wrote:Thanks for this, LT. I ended up going back and re-reading that entire day in context and it's given me a whole new light to look through.
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As I said, I definitely found you being "defensive", but perhaps "over-defensive" was a big strong in terms of word choice, so I apologize for that. I am curious though as to why you didn't bother to bring this up any during Day 2. Is there a reason why?
I think that you missed a possibilitybirdwithteeth11 wrote:In conclusion, I think this means there are 1 of 2 possibilities with you right now:
1) You are bad, and you are trying to frame me as bad because of my choice of words, and twisting my words against me while ignoring other important things I have said.
2) You are being forced by Skeletor to vote for me. So you went and started trying to build a case against me.
Neither of those you posit are correct.And here you go again. What EXACTLY about my current accusation of YOU is "overly-emotional" and "frustrated"? I think I am being quite cool, calm and collected. You, on the other hand, are sounding like a baddie trying to turn the tables.birdwithteeth11 wrote:If you have any other quotes or aspects of the game you would like me to address, feel free to do so and I will get to them at some point. But this post reeks much more of your overly-emotional and more frustrated side, which traditionally has read as your baddie game to me.
Because I had the feeling that Llama was bad. Both AATBW and Indiglo, I have no read on whatsoever. I didn't know who to pick since it was not clear if it was a good thing or a bad thing, so I went with 2 who seemed to want it and I had no strong feelings about.Vompatti wrote:Why boardwalk but not thellama?Kate wrote:Ill vote all along the boardwalk and indiglo.
