The Syndicate

nijuukyugou wrote:Mmmmmm, malt.

Sloonei wrote:

LoRab wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

LoRab wrote:Frig. Totally thought the vote ended tomorrow. I seriously need to get my head in this game. Also frig to the result. Didn't really get the INH case, and probably woudn't have voted there (especially after being so wrong about him last game)--not a judgement necessarily against those who voted him, just my own opinion of him. He's an easy false case. So, yeah. Meh.

What did you dislike about the case?

I didn't think it was indicitive of a baddie INH? I'm not sure I understand what you're asking.

You said you would not have vote for him; why not?

Boomslang wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote: Also, I find your two statements contradictory. How can he be pretty much impossible to read and yet you lean town on him?

Did you read my post? I said I leaned town on Epi because I didn't think his gimmick was doing any damage to the town effort. Beyond obfuscating his own alignment, of course.

Sloonei wrote:Why do you like Scotty avoiding the INH vote?

He had a correct read on INH and promoted that read in the thread. Had we followed that advice, it would've been profitable to the town effort. That's more town evidence than we have for most people at this point.

Also, voted the mini-market because food.

LoRab wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

LoRab wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

LoRab wrote:Frig. Totally thought the vote ended tomorrow. I seriously need to get my head in this game. Also frig to the result. Didn't really get the INH case, and probably woudn't have voted there (especially after being so wrong about him last game)--not a judgement necessarily against those who voted him, just my own opinion of him. He's an easy false case. So, yeah. Meh.

What did you dislike about the case?

I didn't think it was indicitive of a baddie INH? I'm not sure I understand what you're asking.

You said you would not have vote for him; why not?

Because I didn't think he seemed bad and I nothing that was said about him made me think he was bad. I don't remember the particular points, but as I read through them, they didn't convince me that he was bad. I also read them with the eye of thinking that he was a player who was easy for players to manipulate feelings against and make seem bad to be falsely lynched (see last game), so that probably colored my reading). But, basically, I didn't think he seemed bad, so I wouldn't have voted for him. What am I missing in your question?

Boomslang wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Why do you like Scotty avoiding the INH vote?

He had a correct read on INH and promoted that read in the thread. Had we followed that advice, it would've been profitable to the town effort. That's more town evidence than we have for most people at this point.

Also, voted the mini-market because food.

triceratopzeuhl wrote:

Dom wrote: go through each of epi's posts and show me the useless ones.

At the time I voted for him, this was 100% of his posts:

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Epignosis wrote:All My Posts Will Be Potential Titles for Post-Rock Songs

Epignosis wrote:We Are Closing on the Mint House on the Cul-de-Sac in December

Epignosis wrote:POE is Rolling Around in His Grave (Which is in Baltimore, 515 W Fayette Street, in Case You Wanted to Go There)

Epignosis wrote:Townie is Such a Pussy Word

Epignosis wrote:You are Preaching to the Choir, Which is Wearing Robes Made by Unchristian Foreigners

Epignosis wrote:This is Boring, but at Least The Children Are Asleep

Epignosis wrote:Some People Just Like Big Numbers Under Their Names

Epignosis wrote:This is Not a Rainbow; It is Green Snot and Gray Snot

Epignosis wrote:LoRab is Not a Cold Dead Person

Epignosis wrote:Jesus Christ, Six Pages

Epignosis wrote:This Includes Content

Epignosis wrote:It's a Sin to Kill a Bird With Teeth on the First Day.

The third one could potentially be interpreted as him saying he doesn't like MP's POE strategy, and the last one is saying he thinks BWT is good. The rest? compost

Scotty wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Vompatti wrote:Would you believe me if I told you all the INH voters are bad?

I would not k.

What makes you think that?

Why else would they have voted for a civilian?

In hindsight, I still think he was the best choice for a Day 1 vote. Nobody else convinced me otherwise, but Scotty came close for me.

I think I would have liked to leave my vote on bwt.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Scotty wrote:I don't trust several people on this lynch and I don't think Inh will flip bad.

And JJJ: I'm sorry you hate that post.

I still stand by my first post of this game

You're bad.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Sloonei, I'm not too sure how to answer your question with any conviction because I'm really not sure what to think of Dom. A large part of it is definitely gut, but I thought I had a bit more to town read him than I actually do, upon recollection. There's this at least:

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MovingPictures07 wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:What would be a better answer?

An answer which details a reasonable perspective you have/had about what I might be doing as a baddie when I poked MP on Day 0 which bears the appearance of being genuine. I don't know what that'd be, but I'd imagine it's plausible for it to exist.

Dom wrote:What would be a worse answer?

An answer which details an unreasonable perspective you have/had about what I might be doing as a baddie when I poked MP on Day 0 which does not bear the appearance of being genuine. I thought you might be shading me for opportunism re: MP via implication without directly stating it, which would be a dubious assertion given the fuller context of my dialogue with MP.

To your credit, you didn't go there. You didn't provide a "reasonable perspective" either; you left your answer at its most basic: "I thought your accusation was b/s and it was a ping". It's not a thorough explanation, but it's also not one that looks made up. I can on some level appreciate the take-it-or-leave-it frankness.

This is a good point. I can believe that a baddie Dom would have engaged in the latter.

But I do see a lack of townie fire/spark in him and plenty of potential for manufactured content in his posts. I don't know. He could very easily be a mafia read; it was mostly a current gut-based assertion.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Sloonei, I'm not too sure how to answer your question with any conviction because I'm really not sure what to think of Dom. A large part of it is definitely gut, but I thought I had a bit more to town read him than I actually do, upon recollection. There's this at least:

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MovingPictures07 wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:What would be a better answer?

An answer which details a reasonable perspective you have/had about what I might be doing as a baddie when I poked MP on Day 0 which bears the appearance of being genuine. I don't know what that'd be, but I'd imagine it's plausible for it to exist.

Dom wrote:What would be a worse answer?

An answer which details an unreasonable perspective you have/had about what I might be doing as a baddie when I poked MP on Day 0 which does not bear the appearance of being genuine. I thought you might be shading me for opportunism re: MP via implication without directly stating it, which would be a dubious assertion given the fuller context of my dialogue with MP.

To your credit, you didn't go there. You didn't provide a "reasonable perspective" either; you left your answer at its most basic: "I thought your accusation was b/s and it was a ping". It's not a thorough explanation, but it's also not one that looks made up. I can on some level appreciate the take-it-or-leave-it frankness.

This is a good point. I can believe that a baddie Dom would have engaged in the latter.

But I do see a lack of townie fire/spark in him and plenty of potential for manufactured content in his posts. I don't know. He could very easily be a mafia read; it was mostly a current gut-based assertion.

Sloonei wrote:

A Person wrote:so who are the good guys and who are the bad guys

MetalMarsh is a bad guy, Epignosis is a good guy.

Sloonei wrote:That's twice people have agreed with me saying Metalmarsh is bad. I don't even think that. I don't not think it either. But I was just throwing a pair of names at A Person to give them something to work with.

Sloonei wrote:That's twice people have agreed with me saying Metalmarsh is bad. I don't even think that. I don't not think it either. But I was just throwing a pair of names at A Person to give them something to work with.

Sloonei wrote:Over 1000 posts before Day 2. Way to go, team.

Vompatti wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Over 1000 posts before Day 2. Way to go, team.

Would you believe me if I told you I wouldn't mind the mafia and/or serial killer killing all the high posters so the rest of us can keep up?

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Sloonei wrote:That's twice people have agreed with me saying Metalmarsh is bad. I don't even think that. I don't not think it either. But I was just throwing a pair of names at A Person to give them something to work with.

Why throw it out there if you don't think it? Because to me, A Person is the type of player who might take that and run with it.

FWIW, I've previously stated why I think MM might be bad.

Dom wrote:BWT why did you ask Epi that question when he had already answered it?

Dom wrote:I think one or two high posters in particular are responsibble tho

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Question for the masses.

I make arbitrary and nonsensical votes, and nobody gives a shit.

I catch something I find suspicious and vote based on that, and people do give a shit.

For those of you whose read of me matches up with these statements, why is it so? I don't understand.

Dom wrote:

triceratopzeuhl wrote:

Dom wrote: go through each of epi's posts and show me the useless ones.

At the time I voted for him, this was 100% of his posts:

Spoiler: show

Epignosis wrote:All My Posts Will Be Potential Titles for Post-Rock Songs

Epignosis wrote:We Are Closing on the Mint House on the Cul-de-Sac in December

Epignosis wrote:POE is Rolling Around in His Grave (Which is in Baltimore, 515 W Fayette Street, in Case You Wanted to Go There)

Epignosis wrote:Townie is Such a Pussy Word

Epignosis wrote:You are Preaching to the Choir, Which is Wearing Robes Made by Unchristian Foreigners

Epignosis wrote:This is Boring, but at Least The Children Are Asleep

Epignosis wrote:Some People Just Like Big Numbers Under Their Names

Epignosis wrote:This is Not a Rainbow; It is Green Snot and Gray Snot

Epignosis wrote:LoRab is Not a Cold Dead Person

Epignosis wrote:Jesus Christ, Six Pages

Epignosis wrote:This Includes Content

Epignosis wrote:It's a Sin to Kill a Bird With Teeth on the First Day.

The third one could potentially be interpreted as him saying he doesn't like MP's POE strategy, and the last one is saying he thinks BWT is good. The rest? compost

OK
But that isn't his current posting. Why are you still deeming him useless?

triceratopzeuhl wrote: At the time I voted for him,

Sloonei wrote:That's twice people have agreed with me saying Metalmarsh is bad. I don't even think that. I don't not think it either. But I was just throwing a pair of names at A Person to give them something to work with.

LoRab wrote:Frig. Totally thought the vote ended tomorrow. I seriously need to get my head in this game. Also frig to the result. Didn't really get the INH case, and probably woudn't have voted there (especially after being so wrong about him last game)--not a judgement necessarily against those who voted him, just my own opinion of him. He's an easy false case. So, yeah. Meh.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:This Includes Content

I get your whole schtick for this game, but are you planning on incorporating any actual content in at some point?

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:It's a Sin to Kill a Bird With Teeth on the First Day.

What do you feel about the cases against me so far?

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:I don't think it is unreasonable for BWT to ask Epi that question.

It Was a Dumb Question.

How was it a dumb question? I'm curious.

triceratopzeuhl wrote:

Sloonei wrote:That's twice people have agreed with me saying Metalmarsh is bad. I don't even think that. I don't not think it either. But I was just throwing a pair of names at A Person to give them something to work with.

Speaking of changing your vote often, how many times did you change your vote yesterday, 3?

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Question for the masses.

I make arbitrary and nonsensical votes, and nobody gives a shit.

I catch something I find suspicious and vote based on that, and people do give a shit.

For those of you whose read of me matches up with these statements, why is it so? I don't understand.

I think because the first few votes from you were arbitrary and nonsensical. Whenever someone changes their vote that often on Day 1, it always pings me really hard.

Doesn't mean I think you're bad, but it will make me put an eye on you.

triceratopzeuhl wrote:According to the poll thread: MP MM and Sloonei all changed votes 3 times, Wilgy twice, scotty golden and timmer once

I don't know what I think about that, but BWT was mentioning it was a potential thing to look at and I wanted to point out it was more than just metalmarsh doing that

Sloonei wrote:

triceratopzeuhl wrote:According to the poll thread: MP MM and Sloonei all changed votes 3 times, Wilgy twice, scotty golden and timmer once

I don't know what I think about that, but BWT was mentioning it was a potential thing to look at and I wanted to point out it was more than just metalmarsh doing that

fair deal. I come from a Mafia background where changing votes frequently is a common thing. I like to use my votes just to emphasize current suspicions and I never consider anything final until the deadline hits.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Question for the masses.

I make arbitrary and nonsensical votes, and nobody gives a shit.

I catch something I find suspicious and vote based on that, and people do give a shit.

For those of you whose read of me matches up with these statements, why is it so? I don't understand.

Sloonei wrote:

Dom wrote:I think one or two high posters in particular are responsibble tho

Which ones?

triceratopzeuhl wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I am less thrilled with the Epi wagon. It seems lazy or worse to get through this thick pile of posts from Day 0 to now and arrive there. I also think "hiding behind a gimmick/roleplay" is a weak accusation that comes from baddies more often ghan the average accusation.

I've been criticized for this opinion before but I don't think lynching people who are purposely being useless is a terrible choice, even if they flip town.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:These are the questions I have asked Epig so far:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:This Includes Content

I get your whole schtick for this game, but are you planning on incorporating any actual content in at some point?

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:It's a Sin to Kill a Bird With Teeth on the First Day.

What do you feel about the cases against me so far?

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:I don't think it is unreasonable for BWT to ask Epi that question.

It Was a Dumb Question.

How was it a dumb question? I'm curious.

Dom, which of these are you saying he had answered previously? Because I went back and I'm not seeing it.

Vompatti wrote:wtf

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Question for the masses.

I make arbitrary and nonsensical votes, and nobody gives a shit.

I catch something I find suspicious and vote based on that, and people do give a shit.

For those of you whose read of me matches up with these statements, why is it so? I don't understand.

I think because the first few votes from you were arbitrary and nonsensical. Whenever someone changes their vote that often on Day 1, it always pings me really hard.

Doesn't mean I think you're bad, but it will make me put an eye on you.

Looking back, I remember now that you did give a shit before.

I don't know how much everyone else changed their votes. But I'm sure I was one of the few to consistently state my vote changes in thread.

It's also a way of generating content (even if I haven't had any time to observe it), and one of the reasons I prefer changeable votes to unchangeable.

Dom wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:These are the questions I have asked Epig so far:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:This Includes Content

I get your whole schtick for this game, but are you planning on incorporating any actual content in at some point?

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:It's a Sin to Kill a Bird With Teeth on the First Day.

What do you feel about the cases against me so far?

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:I don't think it is unreasonable for BWT to ask Epi that question.

It Was a Dumb Question.

How was it a dumb question? I'm curious.

Dom, which of these are you saying he had answered previously? Because I went back and I'm not seeing it.

The second one.
Because the post you responded to is an answer to that question.

Sloonei wrote:

LoRab wrote:Frig. Totally thought the vote ended tomorrow. I seriously need to get my head in this game. Also frig to the result. Didn't really get the INH case, and probably woudn't have voted there (especially after being so wrong about him last game)--not a judgement necessarily against those who voted him, just my own opinion of him. He's an easy false case. So, yeah. Meh.

In case I'm about to end up dead, I want to clarify why I've been intermittently grilling LoRab tonight. The first couple sentences (underlined) suggest to me that she is not caught up or fully involved in this game, but then in the middle portion (italics) she condemns the case against INH as one she would not have supported.

By no means is it impossible for her to have enough of a footing in this game to have gathered some understanding of the reasons people gave to vote for INH, but the contrast from "I am out of the loop" to "that was a bad lynch which I would not have participated in" was something that stood out to me.

Dom wrote:you asked abotu the cases not the people but w.e.

LoRab wrote:So, what's my motivation to tell you more opinions exactly?

Epignosis wrote:I Will Make You Hurt

Epignosis wrote:I Will Make You Hurt

birdwithteeth11 wrote:But really, who are you planning on hurting?

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Quick note, my most opportune times to be active in this phase are tonight and tomorrow morning. After that I probably won't be back until really close to EOD for Day 2. So if I'm a bit quieter this time around that is why.