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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:43 pm
by timmer
Actually self-voting feels weird. Moved my vote to Quin, to put it somewhere.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:44 pm
by timmer
Has anyone recently watched the film? Who were Frank Booth's associates, and are thus probably his mafia buddies? What were their names? I've goggled it a bit but can't find anything, really.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:46 pm
by Ricochet
insertnamehere wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:49 pm

TheLlama73 has died. He was Frank Booth, a mafia leader.

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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:46 pm
by timmer
Also, I may as well throw out there that I was the other guy choosing to mutiny the other night, so a big eff you to speedchuck. However, that does confirm him as a civ, for me at least, since we have not had a mutiny effort since that night.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:55 pm
by nutella
Oh dang, nice!! Rip daisy but awesome to see llama is a dead mafioso.

By my POE instincts I think the baddies are within Sloonei, SVS, and/or Quin. I'll vote for one of them.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:58 pm
by Long Con
Well, that's a nice surprise. Late lynch result? Or does this mean that we have a Mafia lynch-stopper, and a Civ vigilante who just don't give up when he sees a baddie?

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:59 pm
by Long Con
timmer wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:46 pm Also, I may as well throw out there that I was the other guy choosing to mutiny the other night, so a big eff you to speedchuck. However, that does confirm him as a civ, for me at least, since we have not had a mutiny effort since that night.
Can you explain your logic there some more? Does that mean that we should assume you are also Civ, because you tried to mutiny?

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:00 pm
by Long Con
nutella wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:55 pm Oh dang, nice!! Rip daisy but awesome to see llama is a dead mafioso.

By my POE instincts I think the baddies are within Sloonei, SVS, and/or Quin. I'll vote for one of them.
Why not Timmer and speedchuck, in your words?

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:01 pm
by Quin
timmer wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:43 pm Actually self-voting feels weird. Moved my vote to Quin, to put it somewhere.
rude

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:03 pm
by DharmaHelper
LLama voted to protect Dyslexicon/Quin during that event.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:09 pm
by timmer
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:59 pm
Can you explain your logic there some more? Does that mean that we should assume you are also Civ, because you tried to mutiny?
From my pov, absolutely, yes. But if you don't, it's all good fam. Once there is another mutiny attempt anyone who seems civ is potentially changed, but speedchuck is correct, the first mutiny was indeed aborted due to his absence.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:09 pm
by timmer
DharmaHelper wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:03 pm LLama voted to protect Dyslexicon/Quin during that event.
I believe my vote is staying put for now, then. Dys pinged me right from Day 1, iir.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:12 pm
by nutella
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:00 pm
nutella wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:55 pm Oh dang, nice!! Rip daisy but awesome to see llama is a dead mafioso.

By my POE instincts I think the baddies are within Sloonei, SVS, and/or Quin. I'll vote for one of them.
Why not Timmer and speedchuck, in your words?
I think speedchuck is most likely civ because of the mutiny thing. I think Timmer is most likely civ because -- well, also the mutiny thing apparently, but he just revealed that, and I've thought he was civ the whole game mostly because of his posts during LMS-gate on day 0 and the way he described interpreting his own role pm, and he's seemed reasonable/civ-like since then.

Linki: Oooo, now that's interesting, re Dys/Quin.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:18 pm
by Quin
nutella wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:12 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:00 pm
nutella wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:55 pm Oh dang, nice!! Rip daisy but awesome to see llama is a dead mafioso.

By my POE instincts I think the baddies are within Sloonei, SVS, and/or Quin. I'll vote for one of them.
Why not Timmer and speedchuck, in your words?
I think speedchuck is most likely civ because of the mutiny thing. I think Timmer is most likely civ because -- well, also the mutiny thing apparently, but he just revealed that, and I've thought he was civ the whole game mostly because of his posts during LMS-gate on day 0 and the way he described interpreting his own role pm, and he's seemed reasonable/civ-like since then.

Linki: Oooo, now that's interesting, re Dys/Quin.
speedchuck, sure. He brought unwanted attention to himself at a time it would be dumb for him to. timmer? No. He can be either alignment right now and look not-bad from his coming out about the mutiny.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:30 pm
by timmer
nutella wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:55 pm Oh dang, nice!! Rip daisy but awesome to see llama is a dead mafioso.

By my POE instincts I think the baddies are within Sloonei, SVS, and/or Quin. I'll vote for one of them.
Looking back at Day 1, there was some b-n-f between Sloonei and Dys/Quin that suggests to me that they are not likely teamies. If one flips bad, I'd say the other is civ, based on that quick read.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:42 pm
by Epignosis
timmer wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:46 pm Also, I may as well throw out there that I was the other guy choosing to mutiny the other night, so a big eff you to speedchuck. However, that does confirm him as a civ, for me at least, since we have not had a mutiny effort since that night.
speedchuck's family is on vacation and he has had no Internet. He's written about it twice now. No reason to be mean to the fellow.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:44 pm
by Epignosis
I went off on thellama73 who asked for a replacement.

I went off on Dyslexicon who asked for a replacement.

Long Con, when are you going to ask for a replacement?

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:47 pm
by timmer
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:42 pm
timmer wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:46 pm Also, I may as well throw out there that I was the other guy choosing to mutiny the other night, so a big eff you to speedchuck. However, that does confirm him as a civ, for me at least, since we have not had a mutiny effort since that night.
speedchuck's family is on vacation and he has had no Internet. He's written about it twice now. No reason to be mean to the fellow.


:noble:

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:49 pm
by Epignosis
Long Con has raised the question of why we should let a non-mutiny speedchuck live.

There is definitely a mafia to destroy.

Why did Long Con raise his pitchfork against speedchuck?

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:55 pm
by Quin
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:49 pm Long Con has raised the question of why we should let a non-mutiny speedchuck live.

There is definitely a mafia to destroy.

Why did Long Con raise his pitchfork against speedchuck?
Is-is it because he's bad?

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:59 pm
by Epignosis
Quin wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:55 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:49 pm Long Con has raised the question of why we should let a non-mutiny speedchuck live.

There is definitely a mafia to destroy.

Why did Long Con raise his pitchfork against speedchuck?
Is-is it because he's bad?
I think so.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:00 pm
by DharmaHelper
Spicy theory.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:03 pm
by Long Con
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:44 pm I went off on thellama73 who asked for a replacement.

I went off on Dyslexicon who asked for a replacement.

Long Con, when are you going to ask for a replacement?
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:49 pm Long Con has raised the question of why we should let a non-mutiny speedchuck live.

There is definitely a mafia to destroy.

Why did Long Con raise his pitchfork against speedchuck?
Are these the posts of a Civ who's trying to find Mafia? Are open-ended questions real hunting tools, or are you trying to trick other people into coming to the conclusions you want them to?

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:06 pm
by Epignosis
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:03 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:44 pm I went off on thellama73 who asked for a replacement.

I went off on Dyslexicon who asked for a replacement.

Long Con, when are you going to ask for a replacement?
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:49 pm Long Con has raised the question of why we should let a non-mutiny speedchuck live.

There is definitely a mafia to destroy.

Why did Long Con raise his pitchfork against speedchuck?
Are these the posts of a Civ who's trying to find Mafia? Are open-ended questions real hunting tools, or are you trying to trick other people into coming to the conclusions you want them to?
Are open-ended questions not hunting tools?

What kind of questions should I be asking?

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:17 pm
by speedchuck
Internet looks like it's back to stay. Thanks Comcast. Only took 4 days for you to fix it.

Sorry Timmer. I wanted to mutiny with you.

More thoughts in a moment.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:22 pm
by speedchuck
So, the PM I got regarding mutiny said nothing about the alignment of the other mutineer. Neither Timmer nor I have any info that way. HOWEVER I think it likely Timmer is town. Mafia has less reason to defect and teammates that would possibly call them out on it, or be pissed and such. Especially in this game, where mafia was ahead that night.

I probably need to reread both LC and Epi in light of the Llama flip. I had them as town players pegging at each other over nothing (skim reading is fun) but now that we have some info, those interactions might be interesting. Hm.

Or I could just jump on Sloonei because I'm so behind.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:24 pm
by speedchuck
Wow, this poll really wants you guys to lynch me to death, and then lynch me again.

Why else would I be on the double lynch poll twice?

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:25 pm
by Epignosis
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:58 pm Well, that's a nice surprise. Late lynch result? Or does this mean that we have a Mafia lynch-stopper, and a Civ vigilante who just don't give up when he sees a baddie?
For all your knowledge about me, guess what?

I killed thellama73.

I also know somebody else is a civilian, because I told this person my role and ability, and this person didn't kill me.

Tremble Mafia. We ain't rolling over.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:31 pm
by DharmaHelper
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:25 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:58 pm Well, that's a nice surprise. Late lynch result? Or does this mean that we have a Mafia lynch-stopper, and a Civ vigilante who just don't give up when he sees a baddie?
For all your knowledge about me, guess what?

I killed thellama73.

I also know somebody else is a civilian, because I told this person my role and ability, and this person didn't kill me.

Tremble Mafia. We ain't rolling over.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:34 pm
by DharmaHelper
So Epi is a killing role?

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:36 pm
by Epignosis
DharmaHelper wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:34 pm So Epi is a killing role?
Perhaps.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:37 pm
by Epignosis
Long Con and thellama73 both voted for me. LC has been pushing my death since God created Adam.

What does one make of that?

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:38 pm
by DharmaHelper
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:36 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:34 pm So Epi is a killing role?
Perhaps.
Is you is or is you ain't my baby?

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:39 pm
by Epignosis
DharmaHelper wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:36 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:34 pm So Epi is a killing role?
Perhaps.
Is you is or is you ain't my baby?
Love that number.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:41 pm
by Long Con
Ok, good luck Civs, I'm out.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:43 pm
by DharmaHelper
Flashback to Sherlock mafia when me and Bullz went full on Godfather and blew everybodies shit up

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:44 pm
by Quin
I wish someone would tell me their role and abilities so I could not kill them.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:46 pm
by Epignosis
Quin wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:44 pm I wish someone would tell me their role and abilities so I could not kill them.
thellama73
Dyslexicon / Quin
Long Con

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:47 pm
by Long Con
Nope

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:23 am
by DharmaHelper
Well if there are 3 mafia and two of them are left we certainly have some good ass odds.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:40 am
by Sloonei
nutella wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:55 pm Oh dang, nice!! Rip daisy but awesome to see llama is a dead mafioso.

By my POE instincts I think the baddies are within Sloonei, SVS, and/or Quin. I'll vote for one of them.
If nutella's POE is accurate, then I have a 100% of voting right today. Should I trust nutella?

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:41 am
by Sloonei
EBWOP: 100% chance

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:56 am
by nutella
Epignosis is lying. Maybe he's been lying the whole time (*cough* like when he told me his role); that would be a pretty impressive ploy. A... a long con, if you will. Then again, maybe he really is civ and is lying about killing llama for some other inexplicable reason. Who knows. :shrug2:
Sloonei wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:40 am
nutella wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:55 pm Oh dang, nice!! Rip daisy but awesome to see llama is a dead mafioso.

By my POE instincts I think the baddies are within Sloonei, SVS, and/or Quin. I'll vote for one of them.
If nutella's POE is accurate, then I have a 100% of voting right today. Should I trust nutella?
I don't understand this. Explain?

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:56 am
by Quin
Sloonei wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:41 am EBWOP: 100% chance
Look into side eyeing Chloe's eyes and tell her that she's bad.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:02 am
by nutella
Okay.
*votes Quin*

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:05 am
by Quin
nutella wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:02 am Okay.
*votes Quin*
I wasn't asking you, ice cream sandwich.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:07 am
by Sloonei
nutella wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:56 am Epignosis is lying. Maybe he's been lying the whole time (*cough* like when he told me his role); that would be a pretty impressive ploy. A... a long con, if you will. Then again, maybe he really is civ and is lying about killing llama for some other inexplicable reason. Who knows. :shrug2:
Sloonei wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:40 am
nutella wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:55 pm Oh dang, nice!! Rip daisy but awesome to see llama is a dead mafioso.

By my POE instincts I think the baddies are within Sloonei, SVS, and/or Quin. I'll vote for one of them.
If nutella's POE is accurate, then I have a 100% of voting right today. Should I trust nutella?
I don't understand this. Explain?
Why are we your POE choices?

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:08 am
by Sloonei
Quin wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:56 am
Sloonei wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:41 am EBWOP: 100% chance
Look into side eyeing Chloe's eyes and tell her that she's bad.
You're bad. Is this statement true or false?

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:09 am
by Quin
Sloonei wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:08 am
Quin wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:56 am
Sloonei wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:41 am EBWOP: 100% chance
Look into side eyeing Chloe's eyes and tell her that she's bad.
You're bad. Is this statement true or false?
It is false.

Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:36 am
by Sloonei
Quin wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:09 am
Sloonei wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:08 am
Quin wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:56 am
Sloonei wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:41 am EBWOP: 100% chance
Look into side eyeing Chloe's eyes and tell her that she's bad.
You're bad. Is this statement true or false?
It is false.
What do you think of nutella's process of elimination? SVS and myself were the other two players she named. Are we both bad? One of us? Neither?