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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:02 pm
by Long Con
Michelle wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:07 am
Long Con wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:41 am And if JJJ is scum then that makes two baddies you have defended.
i defended you too pretty much. If you are scum the second part of your sentence is still valid.

You lack something. Townish anger at my vote. Your tone is bland.
Unfortunately i don't have meta so i take it like it may be a wrong take from me. *shrugs
I feel pretty bland about it. I'm not going to get angry, vote me if you like.

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:04 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I always completely dominate the decision processes on my teams. :blush:

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:04 pm
by sprityo
Dom wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:50 am
MacDougall wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:08 am Well you played yourself and your team if you are a townie and really thought that I'd buy that defence Jay.
lol
sprityo wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:11 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:43 pm Never mind I think Nova is probably town too here.

This is just all town on town hate imo. I want new voices. speedchuck sprityo nutella TonyStarkPrime Fayt Michelle Long Con can you please read Epi's Jay hate wall and comment.
now that ive been unjustly lynched again, i can put my full attention here now :workit:
This stinks.
you smell like day old aftershave and cheap cologne :meany:

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:04 pm
by speedchuck
nutella wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:43 am
speedchuck wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:37 am Whew, caught up
And yet I have no idea where you stand on any of it
"Fair", sure.

"Hypocritical as hell," also sure.

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:05 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
speedchuck wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:02 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine
Tell me more go Grease Lightning

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:06 pm
by Long Con
speedchuck wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:01 pm LC, nutella, Sprit, TSP, Dragomir, and Michelle. JJJ can be subbed in for either of the last two if I'm wrong about the reliability of character calls.

Oh no is it a salad

@JaggedJimmyJay It's your favorite, POE! Come get it, boy. *whistles*
I'm surprised to see the ways people get themselves to believe that the Day 1 lynch incriminates me rather than the opposite. I thought I'd be more at risk of a nightkill after that, not a lynch.

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:07 pm
by sprityo
Should I Lynch Jay Yes or No?

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:08 pm
by speedchuck
Long Con wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:06 pm
speedchuck wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:01 pm LC, nutella, Sprit, TSP, Dragomir, and Michelle. JJJ can be subbed in for either of the last two if I'm wrong about the reliability of character calls.

Oh no is it a salad

@JaggedJimmyJay It's your favorite, POE! Come get it, boy. *whistles*
I'm surprised to see the ways people get themselves to believe that the Day 1 lynch incriminates me rather than the opposite. I thought I'd be more at risk of a nightkill after that, not a lynch.
Anti-alignment becomes distancing and not voting for the scum wagon, according to JJJ, is considered a boon, because WIFOM.

Nothing is safe.

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:08 pm
by speedchuck
sprityo wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:07 pm Should I Lynch Jay Yes or No?
Do you believe he would have killed TH, and therefore is lying about that?

The question is close to the same.

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:10 pm
by sprityo
speedchuck wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:08 pm
sprityo wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:07 pm Should I Lynch Jay Yes or No?
Do you believe he would have killed TH, and therefore is lying about that?

The question is close to the same.
would TH have a good enough idea of how to figure out JJJ if he was bad?

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:11 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
sprityo wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:07 pm Should I Lynch Jay Yes or No?
“Could someone please give me permission to mislynch Jay?”

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:11 pm
by sprityo
LC wagon gives me the heeby jeebies

inki: exactly! :haha:

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:12 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
sprityo wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:11 pm LC wagon gives me the heeby jeebies

inki: exactly! :haha:
Why does the LC wagon give you heeby jeebies?

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:12 pm
by sprityo
[mention]speedchuck[/mention] Do you like ties?

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:13 pm
by sprityo
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:12 pm
sprityo wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:11 pm LC wagon gives me the heeby jeebies

inki: exactly! :haha:
Why does the LC wagon give you heeby jeebies?
im unfamiliar with those players

i havent read the game, my bias is new players tend to be shy and stay away from controntation

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:14 pm
by sprityo
confrontation*

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:18 pm
by Long Con
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:05 pm
speedchuck wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:02 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine
Tell me more go Grease Lightning
Now that you mention it, your lack of Grease-related understanding earlier suspicious. Like, you were too aware of how you were presenting yourself and reacting to get the joke. Hard to explain... best I have is the way Watson caught the guy in Sherlock Holmes: Game of Shadows. He was so focused on acting a certain way that he didn't leave room for surprise reactions, so when Watson broke a glass or something he was the only one who didn't react. Something like that. :haha:

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:21 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Long Con wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:18 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:05 pm
speedchuck wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:02 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine
Tell me more go Grease Lightning
Now that you mention it, your lack of Grease-related understanding earlier suspicious. Like, you were too aware of how you were presenting yourself and reacting to get the joke. Hard to explain... best I have is the way Watson caught the guy in Sherlock Holmes: Game of Shadows. He was so focused on acting a certain way that he didn't leave room for surprise reactions, so when Watson broke a glass or something he was the only one who didn't react. Something like that. :haha:
Sure. Sad truth is I’m just a dummy. :biggrin:

I’ve even used the “tell me more” Grease gif in past games. I don’t know all the words to the songs though and even kind of hate the movie, so the car thing didn’t connect. XD

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:24 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
sprityo wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:13 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:12 pm
sprityo wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:11 pm LC wagon gives me the heeby jeebies

inki: exactly! :haha:
Why does the LC wagon give you heeby jeebies?
im unfamiliar with those players

i havent read the game, my bias is new players tend to be shy and stay away from controntation
Guess you’d better read something! Kick back, pop open a cold one, and click on an ISO.

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:26 pm
by speedchuck
sprityo wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:12 pm @speedchuck Do you like ties?
Not when they are used as an excuse for thoughtful vote placement. :dark:

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:27 pm
by nutella
speedchuck wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:47 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:44 am
nutella wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:43 am
speedchuck wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:37 am Whew, caught up
And yet I have no idea where you stand on any of it
Fair
'Caught up' is usually a promise of contribution. Shake the ants out of your pants, both of you.
I prefer the real-time reactions during catch up as I did last night. You should try it. :grin:

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:29 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I think the case against LC is poor. This isn’t uncertainty or doubt like with Rej D1, it’s just a perception that the case is *bad*. Rej’s voting behavior makes very little sense if LC is his teammate.

Dragomir could be for the refused vote. Rej waited around for a different wagon to blossom though, and it ended up being LC by no manipulation of his own. He plopped his vote on there without a care. The whole “it was coordinated distancing” spiel does not hold water for me.

I also think LC is behaving like a civilian.

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:31 pm
by Long Con
sprityo wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:12 pm Do you like ties?
I like ties, but not when I'm involved in them. :srsnod:

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:31 pm
by Long Con
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:29 pmThe whole “it was coordinated distancing” spiel does not hold water for me.
I don't recall doing anything that resembled "coordinated" that Day.

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:32 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Also, the “gamble” incident to me is just Rej projecting a civilian flip. Long Con is a “riskier” lynch, and it’s a “gamble” we can afford to take. When the flip returns civilian: “welp, I guess that’s the luck of the dice”.

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:33 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Long Con wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:31 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:29 pmThe whole “it was coordinated distancing” spiel does not hold water for me.
I don't recall doing anything that resembled "coordinated" that Day.
Same. :smile:

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:34 pm
by sprityo
i guess ill vote drago and see if jay wants to break the tie :shrug:

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:35 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
sprityo wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:34 pm i guess ill vote drago and see if jay wants to break the tie :shrug:
That’s a preferable counterwagon. :beer:

I’m still content to keep my vote right on you, mister.

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:36 pm
by sprityo
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:35 pm
sprityo wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:34 pm i guess ill vote drago and see if jay wants to break the tie :shrug:
That’s a preferable counterwagon. :beer:

I’m still content to keep my vote right on you, mister.
fair enough but i doubt you'd risk an avoidable mislynch

i dont think tony is gonna show up anytime soon

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:38 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
sprityo wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:36 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:35 pm
sprityo wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:34 pm i guess ill vote drago and see if jay wants to break the tie :shrug:
That’s a preferable counterwagon. :beer:

I’m still content to keep my vote right on you, mister.
fair enough but i doubt you'd risk an avoidable mislynch

i dont think tony is gonna show up anytime soon
I’m gone at EOD, so y’all will be free to lose your minds without interruption from me anyway. Whatever vote I place before 3pm EST is my final vote.

I’m definitely not voting Tony in any event.

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:45 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
If the present dynamic holds, my vote will be in the [Dragomir, nutella] space.

I have to step away for a bit. In case graduate school things sweep me away, my most important legacy is that you shouldn’t lynch Epignosis, Long Con, TSP, or Dom. I’m okay with you paying Dom a second thought among the four, just do so with care.

I can probably be back before 3. We’ll see.

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:49 pm
by nutella
[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:53 pm
by sprityo
nutella wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:49 pm [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine
do it bitch

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:54 pm
by nutella
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:45 pm If the present dynamic holds, my vote will be in the [Dragomir, nutella] space.
Blech. Not doing yourself any favors there. :disappoint:


I feel like I missed something about Drago. Why is he on the table

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:59 pm
by nutella
Fwiw my PoE is Dom, Jay, LC, Speed, Sprit. Everyone else is fine in my view.

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:09 pm
by Michelle
Long Con wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:02 pm
Michelle wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:07 am
Long Con wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:41 am And if JJJ is scum then that makes two baddies you have defended.
i defended you too pretty much. If you are scum the second part of your sentence is still valid.

You lack something. Townish anger at my vote. Your tone is bland.
Unfortunately i don't have meta so i take it like it may be a wrong take from me. *shrugs
I feel pretty bland about it. I'm not going to get angry, vote me if you like.
this is not villagery

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:09 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
nutella wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:54 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:45 pm If the present dynamic holds, my vote will be in the [Dragomir, nutella] space.
Blech. Not doing yourself any favors there. :disappoint:


I feel like I missed something about Drago. Why is he on the table
Don’t care. :smile:

Dragomir looks fine to me at face value. There is a case for him though, and it ties to my civilian read on Ling Con. Rej refused to vote in the Dragomir wagon when it was the prevailing counter. He gladly joined the LC wagon.

Rej has the weakest role on the mafia team. He’s an easier loss to manage than either a godfather-roleblocker or the role cop combo thing I cannot remember right now (mobile). If Dragomir is one of them, Rej’s EoD behavior makes sense.

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:10 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I feel like I’m talking to brick walls regarding LC. Someone please engage what I said just a bit ago.

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:14 pm
by Michelle
sprityo wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:53 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:49 pm [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine
do it bitch
why so rude?

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:18 pm
by Long Con
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:32 pm Also, the “gamble” incident to me is just Rej projecting a civilian flip. Long Con is a “riskier” lynch, and it’s a “gamble” we can afford to take. When the flip returns civilian: “welp, I guess that’s the luck of the dice”.
Long Con wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:05 pmI like that point about calling me a "gamble". Sounds like subconscious baddie-speak for "It's going to be a Civ lynch".
:nicenod:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:10 pm I feel like I’m talking to brick walls regarding LC. Someone please engage what I said just a bit ago.
I liked it.
Michelle wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:09 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:02 pm
Michelle wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:07 am
Long Con wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:41 am And if JJJ is scum then that makes two baddies you have defended.
i defended you too pretty much. If you are scum the second part of your sentence is still valid.

You lack something. Townish anger at my vote. Your tone is bland.
Unfortunately i don't have meta so i take it like it may be a wrong take from me. *shrugs
I feel pretty bland about it. I'm not going to get angry, vote me if you like.
this is not villagery
I tend to act like Long Con in either alignment.

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:19 pm
by Long Con
Michelle wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:14 pm
sprityo wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:53 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:49 pm [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine
do it bitch
why so rude?
Semi-classic Syndicate catchphrase.

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:48 pm
by Michelle
Long Con wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:19 pm
Michelle wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:14 pm
sprityo wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:53 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:49 pm [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine
do it bitch
why so rude?
Semi-classic Syndicate catchphrase.
uh. okay then ^^

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:49 pm
by Michelle
How acts Long Con?
What defines you as either alignament?

Who are in your Poe?

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:54 pm
by Michelle
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:48 am
nutella wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:46 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:04 am
MacDougall wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:00 am @Epignosis I think that Jay is just about the only person who WOULD kill TH in that slot based on how TH was playing. I think you may be right about him after all.
I don't kill Turnip Head in his first game back here in 900 years either. Believe me or don't, I don't care. My first priority is always the website, and Turnip Head is a major part of it.
This is a blatant lie.

[VOTE: jay] aubergine
As long as y'all who think I am the Grinch Who Stole Christmas adapt your perspectives after the game and understand that I am not actually an emotionless robot who cares for nothing but sweet victory. That's all JJJ asks.

It's the truth. :nicenod:
AtE = appealing to emotions is used as either alignament but mostly by wolves. And this thing that one wouldn't do something as wolf is usually a lie. It makes me paranoid tbh.

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:57 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:29 pm I think the case against LC is poor. This isn’t uncertainty or doubt like with Rej D1, it’s just a perception that the case is *bad*. Rej’s voting behavior makes very little sense if LC is his teammate.

Dragomir could be for the refused vote. Rej waited around for a different wagon to blossom though, and it ended up being LC by no manipulation of his own. He plopped his vote on there without a care. The whole “it was coordinated distancing” spiel does not hold water for me.

I also think LC is behaving like a civilian.
I can pls has feedback? I can pls has hole in logic?

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:59 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
[mention]nutella[/mention] why sprityo

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:02 pm
by Michelle
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:06 am My reads are pretty in flux at this point. I feel quite good about Epignosis, Dom, Long Con, and TSP. I think Mac and nova generally look fine. I think Dragomir looks good, but he also feels like a potential blind spot. I think Fayt looks bad, but she also feels like a potential blind spot. Michelle, nutella, and speedchuck are swing reads. sprityo is nothing and thus bad.

If I were to draw up a POE of 4 (I think we're allowed more at this stage) right this moment, it'd be the last four names there.
i think you choose the easiest mislynches and added Nutella because she has such a cool name. Taking apart the players you don't like is not necessary a winning receipe.
We have just 2 wolves left. Shrink your Poe

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:04 pm
by Michelle
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:57 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:29 pm I think the case against LC is poor. This isn’t uncertainty or doubt like with Rej D1, it’s just a perception that the case is *bad*. Rej’s voting behavior makes very little sense if LC is his teammate.

Dragomir could be for the refused vote. Rej waited around for a different wagon to blossom though, and it ended up being LC by no manipulation of his own. He plopped his vote on there without a care. The whole “it was coordinated distancing” spiel does not hold water for me.

I also think LC is behaving like a civilian.
I can pls has feedback? I can pls has hole in logic?
The part with Long Con acting civillian-like. I don't see it.
I am listening if you can proove it.

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:04 pm
by Long Con
Michelle wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:49 pm How acts Long Con?
What defines you as either alignament?

Who are in your Poe?
:shrug2: I act how I act. I don't do a lot of Mafia self-reflection, I just say what comes to my mind. I'm pretty laid-back, but I can start throwing things around at times when the level of ignoring me gets high enough.

I don't have a POE.

Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:04 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Michelle wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:02 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:06 am My reads are pretty in flux at this point. I feel quite good about Epignosis, Dom, Long Con, and TSP. I think Mac and nova generally look fine. I think Dragomir looks good, but he also feels like a potential blind spot. I think Fayt looks bad, but she also feels like a potential blind spot. Michelle, nutella, and speedchuck are swing reads. sprityo is nothing and thus bad.

If I were to draw up a POE of 4 (I think we're allowed more at this stage) right this moment, it'd be the last four names there.
i think you choose the easiest mislynches and added Nutella because she has such a cool name. Taking apart the players you don't like is not necessary a winning receipe.
We have just 2 wolves left. Shrink your Poe
No. My POE is actually 6, so it got bigger. :biggrin:

It's the number we need (pending failed kills or extra kills). At 11 vs. 2, we have four mislynches available. There are two mafia alive. That means we need a POE of 4 + 2 = 6 to win the game.