The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:57 am I do not know that you are prone to engage in meta discussions.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:01 pm Oh come on nova. It's 4am now.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:23 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:15 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:13 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:10 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:08 am I’m here for fifteen minutes. Please say things I can react to so I can feel like a participatory member of this game.

You’re scum for lying low yesterday.

This is a WIFOM trap and I don’t like it.

Interesting. Explain.

There is basically no normal response I could give to the post that I (and presumably you) wouldn’t be able to read and create an argument for in either direction. Now you’ve played with me a few times and so I’m not doubting that as best as I try to hide it I’d give off a sort of meta tone read but I don’t think it’s consistent.
So like:

General list of defenses

Angry response
apology
Shrug off
Meta defense


I can’t say which of these I’d be more likely to give as scum or town. Probably depends more on my mood and like whatever comes to mind first. There are players who I think I would have a better idea of what they’d do but that can be manipulated too.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:09 pm

Dom [Kima Greggs] and MacDougall [Herc] have been killed.

Spoiler: show

You are Kima Greggs!

“Who we gotta f*ck in this town to get a real office?”

[Barksdale Detail] - Each night, you may target a player and role-block them, preventing them from performing any actions.

Wincon - Eliminate all threats to Town

Spoiler: show

You are Herc!

"You're fuckin' whipped."

[Surveillance] - During odd nights, you may investigate a player and discover who visited them that phase (if any). During even nights, you may investigate a player and discover which player they visited (if any).

Wincon - Eliminate all threats to Town

Day 2 starts.
A secondary lynch will take place in this phase, you may vote twice on the poll. You have 48 hours.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:16 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:13 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:11 pm Well there goes my dom theory. I'll try better

Can I be town now?

....Yes

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:18 pm I'm voting boo and DDL.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:22 pm My 4.20am hunches. I'll come back tomorrow to justify them or change them

See yall

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:18 pm How do phone users play mafia even

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:25 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:39 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:55 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:54 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:53 pm I think Rej is fitting what little I understand of his town meta. Drago I haven't seen enough from yet to feel strongly about.

I feel like i have seen more proactive version of Dragomir in previous games. But that includes Day 1 of Inception, when he was mafia.

True.

I might hop on just for funsies/so that my vote matters more than it does now and bc I don't really see a reason for Dom to be lynched

That sounds like a weak motivation to jump on the drago wagon which you also don't feel strongly about.

If I couldn't see the poll as I'm making this catch up I would get no indication that you suspect drago more than Dom. Or that you suspect dragon enough to give up on the speed thing you were pushing before.

Sorry, the speed thing you were moaning about before. Because the only thing you did about it was vote speed early on poorly explained grounds when spend the whole day crying "why you aren't voting speed with meeee" to people.

Wow

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:01 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:54 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:27 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:23 am really though jack could have let us grill creature for a bit before nullifying it. INTERESTING

??? What is this

What do you think it is?

I honestly don't know. Explain to me why you didn't want to hear a townread on creature this early. Disappointed that he's not going to be an easy target of suspicion?

yeah

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:55 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:44 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:01 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:54 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:27 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:23 am really though jack could have let us grill creature for a bit before nullifying it. INTERESTING

??? What is this

What do you think it is?

I honestly don't know. Explain to me why you didn't want to hear a townread on creature this early. Disappointed that he's not going to be an easy target of suspicion?

That 'townread' was Jack neutering an early-game source of conflict, suspicion, and actual content by appealing to meta. It's the beginning of the game. Everything should be as volatile as possible.

But it's not a conflict if there isn't disagreement. Stating a townread should be fine for that, if you disagree you can continue on that topic.

you're

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:56 pm Speed discouraging people from contributing their townreads is bad.

right

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:03 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:58 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:55 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:44 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:01 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:54 am

What do you think it is?

I honestly don't know. Explain to me why you didn't want to hear a townread on creature this early. Disappointed that he's not going to be an easy target of suspicion?

That 'townread' was Jack neutering an early-game source of conflict, suspicion, and actual content by appealing to meta. It's the beginning of the game. Everything should be as volatile as possible.

But it's not a conflict if there isn't disagreement. Stating a townread should be fine for that, if you disagree you can continue on that topic.

I assumed Creature would disagree, and then I could say he is biased and defending himself, and we could whirl down a spiral of blame and recursive arguments and THEN Jack could stop us.

And people like you would comment on it and be all like "how scummy" and we'd have a lot to work with.

I guess that's happening anyway now, so thanks. [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

No. This is total bullshit lmao. I don't see the scenario you're describing ever happening like that, and look we are still talky about this so clearly someone successfully generated content. Your assessment of my role in this makes no sense though. Are you just openwolfing?

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

I haven't

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:58 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:32 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:03 pm oh, i think nutella is town. don't lynch her.

speedchuck is another option for me. i feel something intentional and careful in his posts and tone towards others. don't like it.

I agree with half of this post

The other half is like, what. Why.

So you don't suspect me? What did you gain from that exercise? I don't see you commenting on reactions or whatever, you seem to have just moved on.

given my reasons

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:23 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:21 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:53 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:24 am

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:44 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:32 am Well in that case, there's not really much for me to do. Could explain my read on Rej or Mac maybe. But...nah.

wow you really give zero fucks this game, you must be a civ, you would never fuck up your mafia brethern like that? playing this jaded?

did anything else in this DP caught your attention? I haven't seen many reads about Mac. He just seems to carry some energy with him, energy I haven't seen in much of his D0/D1 plays.

Is the first half of this post a sarcasm? Because it seems like one to me.

tbh I am 50/50, it's true that Dragos overall behaviour in mafia changed, from game to game he gives less a fuck, that is reasonable if you busy yourself with other things, but still a mafia drago wouldn't make himself such an easy target I feel, tho town drago tends to do help town in any kind of form

Those two fifties have completely opposite meanings

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine

So?

for suspecting speed

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:15 pm Speed isn't thinking critically on enough levels he's just calling things scummy that aren't really. He's scum

ever at all,

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:26 pm basically he's calling rej scum for not having a coherent stance on drago. I don't have a coherent stance on drago either so idk why that's sus

you got me

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:23 pm

boo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:21 pm [VOTE: zemmi] aubergine for one vote as a start, at this point if we have to lynch two people one of my votes is probably gonna be a policy vote, so will get it out of the way now.

Bad

Wait for a replacement. Lynching 0 posters = bad.

boo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:21 pm [VOTE: zemmi] aubergine for one vote as a start, at this point if we have to lynch two people one of my votes is probably gonna be a policy vote, so will get it out of the way now.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:31 am Dragon D. Luffy

I’d give you a Creature read if you give me an iso link.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:43 pm I feel worse about nutella today too. So much changes after 3 dead town.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:49 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:34 pm

boo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:32 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:27 pm

boo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:27 pm [VOTE: LC] aubergine the other one.

Why?

It's provocative. It gets the people going.

It's empty and safe.

Ohhh I'm proud of myself for this one.

im proud of u too

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine and [VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

gottem

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:03 am I'm thinking lynching zemmi is actually a good idea conceptually, now. But the fact so many people seem to be onboard with it is giving me pause.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:04 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:03 am I'm thinking lynching zemmi is actually a good idea conceptually, now. But the fact so many people seem to be onboard with it is giving me pause.

from "this is terrible" to you're thinking it's a good idea.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:31 am Dunya’s reads are garbo.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:13 am

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:01 pm Oh come on nova. It's 4am now.

You care so much more about this game than I do or else your sleep schedule really sucks.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:12 am [ytubehd][/ytubehd]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:13 am

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:01 pm Oh come on nova. It's 4am now.

You care so much more about this game than I do or else your sleep schedule really sucks.

nah, it won't happen again. my boyfriend had a bad day so i was up till around 3am then i was like, shit, i haven't even checked the thread today. then i got inspired by my sudden sloonei is bad lead and thought i'd solved the entire game because i was really feeling it man. then i was like ok, it's nearly 3.40am i'll wait for the flip wherein sloonei kills me, then nova made me wait forever, then i forgot i had to actually wake up for work today.

today i still feel boo is bad despite never playing with them. i get very bad vibes from all his posts.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:03 am I'm thinking lynching zemmi is actually a good idea conceptually, now. But the fact so many people seem to be onboard with it is giving me pause.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:26 am i like how LC contended sloonei's town read of him. it could be ballsy wifom, but i like it.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:30 am Actually lets do it

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:20 am moving my ddl vote to nutella.

keeping my other vote on boo. he makes me feel icky icky. like he got bad intentions towards me.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:16 am

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:20 am moving my ddl vote to nutella.

keeping my other vote on boo. he makes me feel icky icky. like he got bad intentions towards me.

Why on earth is Nutella scum? Her town and scum games are night and day different. She’s obviously town here. Plus we’ve mindmelded at least twice.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:27 am Tbh I think it would be sad to kill boo after we bonded over a mutual dislike of inactives and willingness to kill them with fire.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:25 am I could vote sig. He's pretty whatever in this game.