Assassin's Creed Mafia (OVER!)

[speedchuck]

Are people pivoting back to LC, because he looks better now than earlier in the day?

[Dragomir]

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

He's obviously a wolf. TSP is also. I'd say the third one is Sloonei. Wrap it up.

Literally what the fuck dude?

[ts account]

Who was it earlier in the game that earnestly made a read on JaggedJimmyJay? We should lynch whoever that was.

I do not believe it was a read on JJJ so much as them comparing another player to JJJ for seemingly no reason.

[MacDougall]

Usually much more has happened by now. This feels weird.

Right now, [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine. He is usually one of the more active people who tries to get stuff going, but right now his only contributions have been setup speculation. I'm not really seeing him trying to get any meaningful discussion going so I have to be suspicious.

I would also say the same about JaggedJimmyJay, but he's Schrödinger's player right now. I'll join you on the Sloonei vote, he has three posts and they're all about an issue that's above his pay grade as a player. In A World Asunder, town Sloonei opened Day 1 with two town reads and a vote on a suspect. [VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

Oh right it was Long Con.

Yeah let's lynch him lol.

[Turnip Head]

Sloonei vote camping off wagon for so long on a person he has no chance of lynching and hasn't even actually tried to lynch has slowly drained me of all my good will towards him.

I’m only half here today

Talk to me Sloon. You're the most level headed person here. What's going on?

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

He's obviously a wolf. TSP is also. I'd say the third one is Sloonei. Wrap it up.

Literally what the fuck dude?

I changed my mind.

[ts account]

Usually much more has happened by now. This feels weird.

Right now, [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine. He is usually one of the more active people who tries to get stuff going, but right now his only contributions have been setup speculation. I'm not really seeing him trying to get any meaningful discussion going so I have to be suspicious.

I would also say the same about JaggedJimmyJay, but he's Schrödinger's player right now. I'll join you on the Sloonei vote, he has three posts and they're all about an issue that's above his pay grade as a player. In A World Asunder, town Sloonei opened Day 1 with two town reads and a vote on a suspect. [VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

It was Long Con.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Right now the way you are behaving gives me the sense you want to be in control for the EOD, and all I can say is that does not make me feel so good about you. I do not think I would hang you today, however.

What's wrong with wanting that? Civilians should want that.

Townies usually have preferred outcomes and push toward those, whereas Dragomir's tone is the inverse and seems to be guiding people away from their unfavorable outcomes. It is something either alignment could do, but here I am leaning it wolf.

In other words Dragomir doesn't care about the roof.

This is the best terminology to come out of a mafia game ever.

What is?

It’s not that good to be honest

[MacDougall]

Sloonei vote camping off wagon for so long on a person he has no chance of lynching and hasn't even actually tried to lynch has slowly drained me of all my good will towards him.

I’m only half here today

Talk to me Sloon. You're the most level headed person here. What's going on?

[Funnygurl555]

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

He's obviously a wolf. TSP is also. I'd say the third one is Sloonei. Wrap it up.

Literally what the fuck dude?

I changed my mind.

town points. wolf wouldn't wanna go for being obviously inconsistent

[Epignosis]

Right now the way you are behaving gives me the sense you want to be in control for the EOD, and all I can say is that does not make me feel so good about you. I do not think I would hang you today, however.

What's wrong with wanting that? Civilians should want that.

Townies usually have preferred outcomes and push toward those, whereas Dragomir's tone is the inverse and seems to be guiding people away from their unfavorable outcomes. It is something either alignment could do, but here I am leaning it wolf.

In other words Dragomir doesn't care about the roof.

So what does this actually mean? What is the roof here?

We played a Fiddler on the Roof mafia once and it coined the phrase. It just generally means doesn't care about the town wincon but to me it also subtly implies that the person doesn't care about playing with the usual sense and reason either.

"it" coined the phrase.

I coined the phrase.

[Epignosis]

I am officially vetoing Long Con suspicion for the remainder of this day.

why

1 - The amount of chatter about him being suspicious is unwarranted and is consistently based on untruths.
2 - The amount of anti LC chatter makes me think that there are at least wolf or wolves pushing that narrative, and in this current threadstate there is no cause for distancing or bussing.

I think that an LC lynch day one is very likely to flip a townie.

My guy, there have been like 2 ppl that talked bad on LC. Funnygurl and I. I won't count Speed cuz he made iirc one post talking about LC. I don't know how much anti-LC you see that I haven't. Maybe I'm just so vocal about him that it seems like a lot.

For someone who gets hysterical about others not reading the game you'd think you would be paying closer attention. LC has been an overwhelmingly dominant focal point and persistently so.

I strongly disagree.

You can try all you want but LC isn't getting lynched while I have a voice.

We'll see about that.

[Dragomir]

I feel like I need to reread the thread and get some fresh and new thoughts.

But before that @Sloonei could you explain to me how you went from town reading me to being unsure? The progression for that wasn't really clear.

You are way too obsessed with how people view you.

In this instance I just want him to explain to me his progression of his read on me since I don't understand it.

[Sloonei]

I feel like I need to reread the thread and get some fresh and new thoughts.

But before that @Sloonei could you explain to me how you went from town reading me to being unsure? The progression for that wasn't really clear.

I said I “approved of you” earlier. That just meant I didn’t have any objections. I don’t have a clear sense of your direction in this game. Thus I am unsure.

[Turnip Head]

Sloonei vote camping off wagon for so long on a person he has no chance of lynching and hasn't even actually tried to lynch has slowly drained me of all my good will towards him.

I’m only half here today

Talk to me Sloon. You're the most level headed person here. What's going on?

[Dragomir]

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

He's obviously a wolf. TSP is also. I'd say the third one is Sloonei. Wrap it up.

Literally what the fuck dude?

I changed my mind.

I hate your mind.

[Epignosis]

Right now the way you are behaving gives me the sense you want to be in control for the EOD, and all I can say is that does not make me feel so good about you. I do not think I would hang you today, however.

What's wrong with wanting that? Civilians should want that.

Townies usually have preferred outcomes and push toward those, whereas Dragomir's tone is the inverse and seems to be guiding people away from their unfavorable outcomes. It is something either alignment could do, but here I am leaning it wolf.

In other words Dragomir doesn't care about the roof.

So what does this actually mean? What is the roof here?

We played a Fiddler on the Roof mafia once and it coined the phrase. It just generally means doesn't care about the town wincon but to me it also subtly implies that the person doesn't care about playing with the usual sense and reason either.

If I remember correctly, Epi coined the term but ended up being mafia.

I coined the phrase and was the civilian hero you fool!

[TonyStarkPrime]

Okay it’s not Sloonei, LC, Drago, TS
Probably not Mac, Epi, MR, FG
Could be Leetic, Speed, Ted, TH
rainbow

[Sloonei]

Sloonei vote camping off wagon for so long on a person he has no chance of lynching and hasn't even actually tried to lynch has slowly drained me of all my good will towards him.

I’m only half here today

Talk to me Sloon. You're the most level headed person here. What's going on?

A lot of people are fighting about silly things.

[Dragomir]

I feel like I need to reread the thread and get some fresh and new thoughts.

But before that @Sloonei could you explain to me how you went from town reading me to being unsure? The progression for that wasn't really clear.

I said I “approved of you” earlier. That just meant I didn’t have any objections. I don’t have a clear sense of your direction in this game. Thus I am unsure.

Why didn't you just like...ask me what direction I plan on taking in this game?

[TonyStarkPrime]

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

He's obviously a wolf. TSP is also. I'd say the third one is Sloonei. Wrap it up.

Literally what the fuck dude?

I changed my mind.

town points. wolf wouldn't wanna go for being obviously inconsistent

One time Mac said I was the towniest person in the game then that I was scum and he knew it all along and built a case and then that I was town and anyone voting for me didn’t want to win in the span of two hours. We were both scum.

[leetic]

I am about halfway through my post, but so much has changed in the last two pages that it's now all outdated lol

[speedchuck]

I am about halfway through my post, but so much has changed in the last two pages that it's now all outdated lol

That's why you gotta just spew

[Dragomir]

Sloonei vote camping off wagon for so long on a person he has no chance of lynching and hasn't even actually tried to lynch has slowly drained me of all my good will towards him.

I’m only half here today

Talk to me Sloon. You're the most level headed person here. What's going on?

A lot of people are fighting about silly things.

Could you give us examples of these silly things?

[leetic]

The Turnip Head wagon seemingly took of out of nowhere and considering that both Drago and speedchuck were on it, I'm not touching it with a ten foot pole

[Funnygurl555]

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

He's obviously a wolf. TSP is also. I'd say the third one is Sloonei. Wrap it up.

Literally what the fuck dude?

I changed my mind.

town points. wolf wouldn't wanna go for being obviously inconsistent

One time Mac said I was the towniest person in the game then that I was scum and he knew it all along and built a case and then that I was town and anyone voting for me didn’t want to win in the span of two hours. We were both scum.

points rescinded

mac is just crazy

[Dragomir]

I am about halfway through my post, but so much has changed in the last two pages that it's now all outdated lol

That's why you gotta just spew

Hey speed, do you have any reads? Ever since you came back online you made several posts lacking substance.

[leetic]

Anyway, I'll at least list my reads from towniest to scummiest (that were up to date a couple pages ago):

1. MacDougall
2. ts account
3. Sloonei
4. Master Radishes
5. Epignosis
6. Funnygurl555
7. Long Con
8. TonyStarkPrime
9. Turnip Head
10. Dragomir
11. speedchuck
12. tedxtr

[Dragomir]

Anyway, I'll at least list my reads from towniest to scummiest (that were up to date a couple pages ago):

1. MacDougall
2. ts account
3. Sloonei
4. Master Radishes
5. Epignosis
6. Funnygurl555
7. Long Con
8. TonyStarkPrime
9. Turnip Head
10. Dragomir
11. speedchuck
12. tedxtr

Why don't you explain that number 10 right there

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: Turnip Head] aubergine

Really cool. Goes nowhere

Why move away from LC?

There is absolutely nothing spicy, delightful, fantastic, wonderous or magical about LC suspicion. It's boring ass tunnelly overdone claptrap.

Yet look at you.

[Sloonei]

I feel like I need to reread the thread and get some fresh and new thoughts.

But before that @Sloonei could you explain to me how you went from town reading me to being unsure? The progression for that wasn't really clear.

I said I “approved of you” earlier. That just meant I didn’t have any objections. I don’t have a clear sense of your direction in this game. Thus I am unsure.

Why didn't you just like...ask me what direction I plan on taking in this game?

Because that’s not how this works or what I mean or anything.

[ts account]

Anyway, I'll at least list my reads from towniest to scummiest (that were up to date a couple pages ago):

1. MacDougall
2. ts account
3. Sloonei
4. Master Radishes
5. Epignosis
6. Funnygurl555
7. Long Con
8. TonyStarkPrime
9. Turnip Head
10. Dragomir
11. speedchuck
12. tedxtr

Interesting, with a capital Q. I thought you had a vague scum read on me last we checked in.

[speedchuck]

I am about halfway through my post, but so much has changed in the last two pages that it's now all outdated lol

That's why you gotta just spew

Hey speed, do you have any reads? Ever since you came back online you made several posts lacking substance.

Mac, Ted, ts account town. TH scum. LC back around null. Those are the ones I've been gnawing on.

I want to believe funnygurl is town because she seems like she's having fun, but I don't know enough about her.

[Sloonei]

Sloonei vote camping off wagon for so long on a person he has no chance of lynching and hasn't even actually tried to lynch has slowly drained me of all my good will towards him.

I’m only half here today

Talk to me Sloon. You're the most level headed person here. What's going on?

A lot of people are fighting about silly things.

Could you give us examples of these silly things?

I mean...

[leetic]

Something is wrong with Long Con. He doesn't usually play with this tight of a grip. Like a rattlesnake getting all coiled up. He often gets suspected early and I'm one of the first to rush to his defense because I recognize his town game but this is off-meta for him and I think he knows it

Would you consider voting for him?

I don't like Drago's tone here, reads like he's more focused on building wagons than anything else.

This point rings even more true now that Drago has rapidly jumped between the Turnip and LC wagons depending on which seemed the more likely lynch based on thread climate.

[Turnip Head]

[VOTE: tedextr] aubergine

This wagon has the purest votes from my POV. The other wagons just look trigger happy

[leetic]

Anyway, I'll at least list my reads from towniest to scummiest (that were up to date a couple pages ago):

1. MacDougall
2. ts account
3. Sloonei
4. Master Radishes
5. Epignosis
6. Funnygurl555
7. Long Con
8. TonyStarkPrime
9. Turnip Head
10. Dragomir
11. speedchuck
12. tedxtr

Interesting, with a capital Q. I thought you had a vague scum read on me last we checked in.

Well, that was near the beginning of the game when you were still posting weird stuff about mechanics speculation and pocketing. You seem like more your usual self as of late, we are mindmelding regarding Drago and your tone seems genuine.

[Funnygurl555]

I am about halfway through my post, but so much has changed in the last two pages that it's now all outdated lol

That's why you gotta just spew

Hey speed, do you have any reads? Ever since you came back online you made several posts lacking substance.

Mac, Ted, ts account town. TH scum. LC back around null. Those are the ones I've been gnawing on.

I want to believe funnygurl is town because she seems like she's having fun, but I don't know enough about her.

I'm pretty cool

[Dragomir]

Something is wrong with Long Con. He doesn't usually play with this tight of a grip. Like a rattlesnake getting all coiled up. He often gets suspected early and I'm one of the first to rush to his defense because I recognize his town game but this is off-meta for him and I think he knows it

Would you consider voting for him?

I don't like Drago's tone here, reads like he's more focused on building wagons than anything else.

This point rings even more true now that Drago has rapidly jumped between the Turnip and LC wagons depending on which seemed the more likely lynch based on thread climate.

You still have yet to explain to me as to why a townie shouldn't try to build a wagon on the player that they scum read.

[leetic]

Something is wrong with Long Con. He doesn't usually play with this tight of a grip. Like a rattlesnake getting all coiled up. He often gets suspected early and I'm one of the first to rush to his defense because I recognize his town game but this is off-meta for him and I think he knows it

Would you consider voting for him?

I don't like Drago's tone here, reads like he's more focused on building wagons than anything else.

This point rings even more true now that Drago has rapidly jumped between the Turnip and LC wagons depending on which seemed the more likely lynch based on thread climate.

You still have yet to explain to me as to why a townie shouldn't try to build a wagon on the player that they scum read.

A townie should build a wagon by procuring evidence on a scummy user, not by constantly pestering people until they vote your way. What is with the switch between Turnip and LC, do you believe they may be paired?

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: turnip head] aubergine

[Dragomir]

Something is wrong with Long Con. He doesn't usually play with this tight of a grip. Like a rattlesnake getting all coiled up. He often gets suspected early and I'm one of the first to rush to his defense because I recognize his town game but this is off-meta for him and I think he knows it

Would you consider voting for him?

I don't like Drago's tone here, reads like he's more focused on building wagons than anything else.

This point rings even more true now that Drago has rapidly jumped between the Turnip and LC wagons depending on which seemed the more likely lynch based on thread climate.

You still have yet to explain to me as to why a townie shouldn't try to build a wagon on the player that they scum read.

A townie should build a wagon by procuring evidence on a scummy user, not by constantly pestering people until they vote your way. What is with the switch between Turnip and LC, do you believe they may be paired?

Have I not done that? I made posts explaining why I think both of them are scum. The reasoning part is done, now I focus in the lynching part.

No. I just they're both scum.

[Sloonei]

I think we are a bit of a mess right now and the mafia team would be content to maintain the status quo. Turnip Head is a player who stands out as not rocking the boat. I don't know if that's fair to say. I am making this assessment with only one foot in the game.

[Sloonei]

So I guess a better way to present that read is this: who is participating, but not moving the needle or enabling chaos to thrive?

[Dragomir]

So I guess a better way to present that read is this: who is participating, but not moving the needle or enabling chaos to thrive?

Speedchuck.

[Turnip Head]

As if the boat needs to be rocked further

[Sloonei]

I am about halfway through my post, but so much has changed in the last two pages that it's now all outdated lol

That's why you gotta just spew

Hey speed, do you have any reads? Ever since you came back online you made several posts lacking substance.

Mac, Ted, ts account town. TH scum. LC back around null. Those are the ones I've been gnawing on.

I want to believe funnygurl is town because she seems like she's having fun, but I don't know enough about her.

I do not love this post.

[leetic]

Something is wrong with Long Con. He doesn't usually play with this tight of a grip. Like a rattlesnake getting all coiled up. He often gets suspected early and I'm one of the first to rush to his defense because I recognize his town game but this is off-meta for him and I think he knows it

Would you consider voting for him?

I don't like Drago's tone here, reads like he's more focused on building wagons than anything else.

This point rings even more true now that Drago has rapidly jumped between the Turnip and LC wagons depending on which seemed the more likely lynch based on thread climate.

You still have yet to explain to me as to why a townie shouldn't try to build a wagon on the player that they scum read.

A townie should build a wagon by procuring evidence on a scummy user, not by constantly pestering people until they vote your way. What is with the switch between Turnip and LC, do you believe they may be paired?

Have I not done that? I made posts explaining why I think both of them are scum. The reasoning part is done, now I focus in the lynching part.

No. I just they're both scum.

As far as I can see you have made one post detailing your suspicion of LC, and one post detailing your suspicion of Turnip. Every other post has been about them in relation to other users. Your progression on them has felt very CWAC, in that by a cursory glance it looks like you have a lot of posts detailing your suspicions on them, but when you actually look at it very little is actually written about them and you're mostly relying on other people posting about them and telling/suggesting to people that they're scum rather than put in any real work in detailing reads or even suspicions about these people. Of all the reasons to scumread you, this is the strongest.

[Sloonei]

As if the boat needs to be rocked further

steady the boat that is already rocking then. I dunno. Most of what I've seen in here today has been like a middle school cafeteria on a friday.

[leetic]

So I guess a better way to present that read is this: who is participating, but not moving the needle or enabling chaos to thrive?

Speedchuck.

This applies just as well to you ya know