The Syndicate

112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:21 pm oh and both NIK and KZA can easily be mafia, but I have Falc and Flanders as strong town having played many (many) games with both of them.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:55 pm Hey all I'm here! It looks like I've missed a bunch already! Craziness!

Grand Scheme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:49 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:40 pm So what are your reads then GS?

Ennnhhh....I like Joseph, nutella, 112... you seem like you always do, but Joseph said you have bad reads when you're a wolf, don't know if that's true or not. Made kind of pinged me with his wagonomics mumbo-jumbo.

I haven't read over the whole game yet, so . Nothing I'm married to yet.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:03 pm

Grand Scheme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:49 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:40 pm So what are your reads then GS?

Ennnhhh....I like Joseph, nutella, 112... you seem like you always do, but Joseph said you have bad reads when you're a wolf, don't know if that's true or not. Made kind of pinged me with his wagonomics mumbo-jumbo.

I haven't read over the whole game yet, so . Nothing I'm married to yet.

Oh. YOU'RE lc. So then whos townmctownface

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:03 pm Why can't we all hold hands and be friends

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:59 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:57 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:56 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:55 pm Hey all I'm here! It looks like I've missed a bunch already! Craziness!

We got one folks!

Wouldn't be mafia without nova accusing me on my first post everytime we play together

Appeal to history, not a good look

Lolol indeed, hope you're doing well!

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:04 pm @MacDougall what does "jump the shark" mean exactly

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:51 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:47 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:09 pm Do you have a Sloonei read Sig?

All fluff with a tiny sprinkle of gameplay, it's that tiny sprinkle that concerns me/ If he wanted to fluff D0 whatever, but it seems like he's pretending to put in effort. So guess I'd say null but on my radar.

ugh this is gross




i feel like mac/sig have a bad tagteam thing going on here and idk what that means for their alignments


fuck this setup lol

I think Sig is mafia

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:04 pm Sloonei got the disengaged vibe going for him to a certain extent. I can definitely relate to it so yeah not convinced it comes from randing Mafia, fact that it came from the start rather than being in response to being suspected is alright.

NIK wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:01 pm What have i missed?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:51 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:47 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:09 pm Do you have a Sloonei read Sig?

All fluff with a tiny sprinkle of gameplay, it's that tiny sprinkle that concerns me/ If he wanted to fluff D0 whatever, but it seems like he's pretending to put in effort. So guess I'd say null but on my radar.

ugh this is gross




i feel like mac/sig have a bad tagteam thing going on here and idk what that means for their alignments


fuck this setup lol

I think Sig is mafia

I find it super weird that you two were in lockstep for a while and then both turned on each other suddenly

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:54 pm I used to be a fan of Nutella but then she decided that hurting my feelings was a sport.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:05 pm You think we're irrelevant and over the hill players?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:00 pm Alison and Nutella are town but they've completely jumped the shark as players.

112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:55 pm Thunal's been lurking.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:08 pm 112 is in charge while I'm gone

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:24 pm You're all overthinking it. Whenever tutuu is town she is super natural and gets towncleared by everyone immediately and always engages in zany roleplays. Her entrance this game was forced/awkward and had a bunch of people feeling bad about it. She felt like she was forcing herself to act like town tutuu more than anything. The reason I feel comfortable clearing her pretty hard early on in most games is because town tutuu is very difficult to comfortably fake as scum, and I think her behavior this game matches up with scum struggling to slip into her town meta.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:03 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:03 pm

Grand Scheme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:49 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:40 pm So what are your reads then GS?

Ennnhhh....I like Joseph, nutella, 112... you seem like you always do, but Joseph said you have bad reads when you're a wolf, don't know if that's true or not. Made kind of pinged me with his wagonomics mumbo-jumbo.

I haven't read over the whole game yet, so . Nothing I'm married to yet.

Oh. YOU'RE lc. So then whos townmctownface

Nook

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:04 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:03 pm Why can't we all hold hands and be friends

I dunno ask Nutella why she's being so hurtful towards me. I kinda don't wanna play anymore because she's being mean as.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:05 pm

NIK wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:01 pm What have i missed?

We've got a red check on you, already 9 votes just a few short of a hammer. Any last words?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:01 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:55 pm Hey all I'm here! It looks like I've missed a bunch already! Craziness!

Oh hi who are your teammates?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:15 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:01 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:55 pm Hey all I'm here! It looks like I've missed a bunch already! Craziness!

Oh hi who are your teammates?

Who are YOUR teammates mac?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:25 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:24 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:19 pm Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)

112 - Hadn't posted yet but I've got them null based on the realtime
Alison - Probably just town
BoKnows - Town through Alison
Chuck - Hadn't posted
falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Grand Scheme - Hadn't posted
Joe Who? - Hadn't posted
Kylemii - One post town read
KZA - Lean mafia
Made - Hadn't posted
MartinG99 - Hadn't posted
NIK - Lean mafia
novaselineever - Hadn't posted
nutella - Slightly townie
Poison - Different to Tutuu
polypies73 - Fairly townie
Sabie12 - Hadn't posted
sigurd - Null on realtime but hadn't posted
Sloonei - Null
Stupid Sexy Flanders - Town
Thunal33 - Lean mafia
Thundercat - Null
Towny McTownface - Hadn't posted
tutuu - I kinda wanna protect her, I think she might be town

hey uh jojoe

u wolfin
???

easy to just say this, what exactly about my post is wolfy Nutella?

everything


also it got worse the more posts you made

your takes are bad and you should feel bad

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:23 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:25 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:24 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:19 pm Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)

112 - Hadn't posted yet but I've got them null based on the realtime
Alison - Probably just town
BoKnows - Town through Alison
Chuck - Hadn't posted
falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Grand Scheme - Hadn't posted
Joe Who? - Hadn't posted
Kylemii - One post town read
KZA - Lean mafia
Made - Hadn't posted
MartinG99 - Hadn't posted
NIK - Lean mafia
novaselineever - Hadn't posted
nutella - Slightly townie
Poison - Different to Tutuu
polypies73 - Fairly townie
Sabie12 - Hadn't posted
sigurd - Null on realtime but hadn't posted
Sloonei - Null
Stupid Sexy Flanders - Town
Thunal33 - Lean mafia
Thundercat - Null
Towny McTownface - Hadn't posted
tutuu - I kinda wanna protect her, I think she might be town

hey uh jojoe

u wolfin
???

easy to just say this, what exactly about my post is wolfy Nutella?

everything


also it got worse the more posts you made

your takes are bad and you should feel bad

you said i should feel bad i'm just following instructions

NIK wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:23 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:23 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:25 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:24 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:19 pm Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)

112 - Hadn't posted yet but I've got them null based on the realtime
Alison - Probably just town
BoKnows - Town through Alison
Chuck - Hadn't posted
falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Grand Scheme - Hadn't posted
Joe Who? - Hadn't posted
Kylemii - One post town read
KZA - Lean mafia
Made - Hadn't posted
MartinG99 - Hadn't posted
NIK - Lean mafia
novaselineever - Hadn't posted
nutella - Slightly townie
Poison - Different to Tutuu
polypies73 - Fairly townie
Sabie12 - Hadn't posted
sigurd - Null on realtime but hadn't posted
Sloonei - Null
Stupid Sexy Flanders - Town
Thunal33 - Lean mafia
Thundercat - Null
Towny McTownface - Hadn't posted
tutuu - I kinda wanna protect her, I think she might be town

hey uh jojoe

u wolfin
???

easy to just say this, what exactly about my post is wolfy Nutella?

everything


also it got worse the more posts you made

your takes are bad and you should feel bad

you said i should feel bad i'm just following instructions

you ready to be my bitch?

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:37 am

NIK wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:25 am Is it too late for the simple Hey enterance?

no, but why don't you have a pfp? you sus

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:32 pm pfp = profile pic = avatar

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:00 pm So here are my relevant reads:

1. 112 is my top town. Polypies seems town.
2. Alison and Nutella are town but they've completely jumped the shark as players.
3. Tutuu is probably but might not be town and same with Poison. The fact that the majority of the game has been played through reading Tutuu who has been entirely NAI from my perspective meant I just wasted nearly 2 hours of my life catching up for no reason. Poison is actually probably just town too tbh.
4. The CDC clique being given a bunched town clear is the dumbest shit I have ever heard on maths alone let alone that there are actually players within that group that are scummy and some are town.
5. Falcon and Flanders are loltown.
6. KZA, NIK, Made, Sig, Martin all have pretty high equity to be mafia.
7. Anyone pretending to have near to lock reads here has mafia equity.
8. Sloonei is a 3p.
9. Kylemii is my top mafia.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:03 pm

Grand Scheme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:49 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:40 pm So what are your reads then GS?

Ennnhhh....I like Joseph, nutella, 112... you seem like you always do, but Joseph said you have bad reads when you're a wolf, don't know if that's true or not. Made kind of pinged me with his wagonomics mumbo-jumbo.

I haven't read over the whole game yet, so . Nothing I'm married to yet.

Oh. YOU'RE lc. So then whos townmctownface

112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:21 pm oh and both NIK and KZA can easily be mafia, but I have Falc and Flanders as strong town having played many (many) games with both of them.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:26 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:24 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:19 pm Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)

falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Poison - Different to Tutuu

Explain these.

I think Falcon's best talent is looking townie. Beyond that, they probably are better off just finding townies they trust and sheeping their reads. That maybe harsh but I think Falcon (and Flanders to an extent) are very likely to make bad pushes.

Alison made a read that she felt there was one between Tutuu and Poison and only one and I tend to agree. I tend to think it's probably Poison at this point.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:48 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:19 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:14 am what's the narrative though? is it that flanders' accusations against her are shit and he's whining like a baby? I don't get it, what's the point of the story

Her defense is rather shaky eh.
I didn't like her first post, called her out, didn't like her next post because of a perspective slip and she's kinda spiraled from there.

The insult posts are never townie this early on. I've been frustrated town and resorted to name calling and insult posts leading up to nf, but I see her level of flail as very scum indicative for this stage of the game.

Ehhhh you're wrong but whatever.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:02 pm I don't get your soreness about NIK, he's been townie in the same way every CDCer in the game has been.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:09 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:06 pm What is CDC? Besides the evil government organization trying to take over the world.

The site that Falcon, Flanders, NIK, KZA and BoKnows all come from.

112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:39 pm CDC getting slammed hard this game

NIK wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:18 pm Ok SSF falc Kza im hammered give me an update
Whats happening

112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:44 pmplay, NIK

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:46 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:21 pm oh and both NIK and KZA can easily be mafia, but I have Falc and Flanders as strong town having played many (many) games with both of them.

112 is town. I agree with this way too much and her tone/energy feels good. She's completely wrecked me a few times, but 112 is town for now

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:26 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:24 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:19 pm Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)

falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Poison - Different to Tutuu

Explain these.

I think Falcon's best talent is looking townie. Beyond that, they probably are better off just finding townies they trust and sheeping their reads. That maybe harsh but I think Falcon (and Flanders to an extent) are very likely to make bad pushes.

Alison made a read that she felt there was one between Tutuu and Poison and only one and I tend to agree. I tend to think it's probably Poison at this point.

I make bad pushes all the time. Falc reads the game much better than I do.
You really think you're the bomb, which is kinda cute and dickish all at the same time. I'm townreading you. But theres no need to go around insulting the new guys because we play differently than you. The playstyle here is different than I'm used to, and normally my asshole plays to start the game don't receive as strong of a reaction or as much conversation.
For a number of pages players kept turning the conversation back onto tutuu instead of trying to move forward and allow tutuu to either spew or start solving/hunting. Thats not typical of what I see at home from town. Town will move forward then circle back on top reads closer to nf.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:48 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:19 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:14 am what's the narrative though? is it that flanders' accusations against her are shit and he's whining like a baby? I don't get it, what's the point of the story

Her defense is rather shaky eh.
I didn't like her first post, called her out, didn't like her next post because of a perspective slip and she's kinda spiraled from there.

The insult posts are never townie this early on. I've been frustrated town and resorted to name calling and insult posts leading up to nf, but I see her level of flail as very scum indicative for this stage of the game.

Ehhhh you're wrong but whatever.

Again, brand new forum with lots of new players. We don't throw tantrums until closer to nf, usually.
I had a fricken beauty last game, but that was after being scumread for 48hrs despite busting my ass in the hunt. Fucking dicks. Man they pissed me off.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:02 pm I don't get your soreness about NIK, he's been townie in the same way every CDCer in the game has been.

Disagree. NIK has done SFA, no hunting, no cheeky reads list. Just lip service and fluffage.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:09 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:06 pm What is CDC? Besides the evil government organization trying to take over the world.

The site that Falcon, Flanders, NIK, KZA and BoKnows all come from.

112, Benson and Master Radishes all hail from CDC well.

112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:39 pm CDC getting slammed hard this game

Meh, kind of. O

NIK wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:18 pm Ok SSF falc Kza im hammered give me an update
Whats happening

You tell me. Why haven't you done shit yet? Quit sucking or will not be able to keep myself from tunneling you.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:20 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:09 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:51 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:50 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:19 pm anyway, sloonei is actually lock mafia sheep me fools

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:25 pm meant his 2nd post about wishing he had a sock / not wanting ppl to read him


anyway his iso has gotten even worse recently, talking about forum tools and other non-game-relevant stuff, trying to act forcedly casual, and obviously being more aware of the mafia anon thing bringing it up and then trying to cover that up by saying he could be misreading it, i had no idea that was even a thing but clearly he did. like it's possible he had just read it carefully and noticed it but i wasn't convinced that was the correct interpretation until sprit confirmed cause it seems so wild to me, but sloonei seemed to know

Hmmmmmmm

I'm not sure if a !scum sloonei is the correct call for that sort of thing.

If he's a wolf and he's not talking about the game then he's not trying to drive the thread anywhere, for better or worse.

Ideally speaking, a wolf would want to influence the thread so its more favorable to them.

[srike]Of course, he DID win the champs and I don't exactly "know" them but I would rather not risk overthinking this[/strike]

i dont wanna bring in champs reads too much but he was only ever town in his games there so it's not really representative of his skill as wolf alignment and remember how i found him easily in grasslands

his iso here is shit.

Sloonei's ISO is very similar to what it was at the start of Grasslands. He said in wolf chat that he could fake solving but found it hard to fake motivation, and I'm not seeing much motivation here. Is Sloonei generally lower motivation as scum?

yes


@112 thunal is a she and is town shut up

sig wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:16 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:13 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:39 am I don't think it's within tutuu's scum range to use a personal attack on someone who correctly scumread her when she is a wolf. That just doesn't seem like something she would do.

You think she's too kind spirited to do that? Tutuu is sweet but I don't think getting pissed off at being tunneled by town and sounding off is beyond her.

So I don't know tuutuu's range, but I think you frequently see players get personal as mafia members if they get called out early or for bad reasoning. Which seems to be what happened there.