The Syndicate

Marmot who do u think is mafia?

Wow, Syn managed to avoid interactions with or even talk about many player who aren't a doc or at this point a dead VT. There were two exceptions though

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:05 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:51 am @Syn @Marmot sup bois where u at

nanook, mac, poison, tutuu town

esoo, marmot, ted woof

alison deep woof or great town

rest null

bask in the glory of my unexplained low-effort gut reads

tbh the only shaped read I have is on Esoo and everyone has already said everything there is to be said on that, and I hate just echoing things

We have a read list here. This also points to Ted and I not being partners, there's no way Syn would list his two partners as scumreads with a claimed doc? He had given no reason prior in the game to list either of them as scum. I guess esooa and I had votes, an easy reason, but why ted? Did he have votes Day 1?

I think everyone else has some scum equity based on this list, everyone else being DrWilgy, Alison, sig.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:42 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:36 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:59 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:59 am Ok. I agree with you that no one in this game has been particularly townie. That's one reason I feel pretty scum vibes from syn. Idk how accurate I am in any of my reads, forum is harder to read in general imo, but I don't like how he comes to the thread to echo the opinions of Alison, who has been doing next to all of the work this game. I feel similarly about nanook but if he's rly just gonna be like that then what ever. But I feel like there's a good possibility wolves are fine just going along with Alison and not adding much. That's why I never really thought you were scummy too, because you did agree with Alison but you put your own thoughts into it.

me: I haven't said much because I don't want to echo people
esooa right after: syn is scummy because all he's doing is echoing people

smh

like posting a naked reads list that is the exact mood of the thread.. And you don't have anything to say that isn't just echoing people?

if being spicy is a requirement, I'm lock-towning sig

Speaking of sig, sig somehow went from null to lock-town. And the only thing sig had said in the meantime were these two posts: 1, 2

Spicy indeed.

At this moment: ted and Wilgy

I don't like the direction of this investigation Marmot, I order you to cease and desist immediately

Though Alison does look pretty bad from this, Syn waffles just enough on her that had she flipped she'd have been fine.

I also don't see why she just willingly accepted LC wasn't the doctor with tuutuu, like the whiplash in her esooa read was extreme.

Can we talk about Alison?

I'm still having trouble connecting her pushing hard for her chop on Day 2 as a scum player. I get self-voting as scum, I do it all the time. That behavior is not something I'm familiar with aside from frustrated townie.

The only thing I can think of is that she knew that esooa was a doc and wanted to chop her. But even then, in what world would we chop esooa after flipping scum Alison?

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:15 pm I don't like the direction of this investigation Marmot, I order you to cease and desist immediately

Scum confirmed

Oh lol, you do want to talk about Alison.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:16 pm Though Alison does look pretty bad from this, Syn waffles just enough on her that had she flipped she'd have been fine.

You used she twice here, are you referring to Alison both times?

Gonna say, I'm pretty sure it's not Marmot.

I think I'd be dead if he was.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:57 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:35 am I'm not sure what to think of this. My first thought was "that's a cool gif, wtf am I reading?"

Does this make sense?

...Or am I just dumb? Could be Im just dumb... Yeah I'm too dumb to understand, let's hope Tutuu is correct.

Just please don't tell us your first post of the game was actually a doc claim.

He saw my claim and didn't shoot me lol

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:30 pm Gonna say, I'm pretty sure it's not Marmot.

I think I'd be dead if he was.

You have successfully pocketed a marmot! Would you like to add him to your party?

Or at the very least, I don't expect scum to respond to my claim openly lol.

Linki: yee

Nobody killed me after my softclaim either.

Wait, are you for serious Wilgy???

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:35 pm Wait, are you for serious Wilgy???

I am most definitely a doctor.

Do it now! Kill me scum. I'm here!

Why was Falcon killed and not someone like Tutuu?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:43 pm Why was Falcon killed and not someone like Tutuu?

pretty obviously doctors

Doctors yes.

But if the goal was to dodge a doc, why weren't either you or Alison night yeeted to push the other over the edge? I think Alison is scum, but they couldn't afford to yeet you.

Alison, you and Sig being alive at the same time rn really does point to Alison.

Is tutuu confirmed outside of hearsay?

Is tutuu alison a concept and the claim ordeal was used to save the temmie?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:30 pm Gonna say, I'm pretty sure it's not Marmot.

I think I'd be dead if he was.

Reading through Wilgy's iso, an Alison/Wilgy team is possible.

There's this post from Alison:

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:39 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:37 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:34 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:37 pm Alison can you explain your read on wiggly

It feels like he's trying kinda hard to solve the game. I think specifically the way he engaged with ted was good and authentic, and my experience with Wilgy is that he tends to slank more as scum (see: Making Friends). He also slanks as town sometimes, but there's little bursts of effort that shows he has a real townie mindset, whereas when he's scum he just hard trolls/open wolfs

I think it's pretty easy for a wolf not getting scum read who joins the thread to go back and forth between two towns, which would be the case if you are town. He was asking questions but not giving much input so I couldn't see any townie reasoning. I think it makes a lot of sense for a wolf to come into a situation with two town death tunneling eachother and they just ask questions and go between them to seem solvey and get town cred. What do you think of this?

I don't see why scum Wilgy feels obligated to do anything. He can just sit there and let me go over. No need to put his hand in the pie. I also don't think the way he treated me/you was in the position of a wolf egging two townies to attack each other - do you have posts that show why you think that way? Also, it's not particularly scummy for Wilgy to ask questions but not give much input, not sure why you think that. That's just the way he plays, and he's made genuine contributions to the gamestate.

It's not wrong. Wilgy did enter the thread in a game-solvy sort of way. Wilgy posed a scumread of Alison pretty quickly, fished for teammate ideas from ted, then eventually equating wolf Alison to frustrated townie.

I think Alison looks worse from this than Wilgy does tho.


Linki: yeah but do you have a phd? I don't know what to believe anymore

I have a phd in slanking.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:50 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:30 pm Gonna say, I'm pretty sure it's not Marmot.

I think I'd be dead if he was.

Ahhh so cringe yes. Ooooh.

I'm back to my 50/50 Alison/Ted. Not W/W but I can't figure out the damn dichotomy here.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:50 pm Is tutuu confirmed outside of hearsay?

Is tutuu alison a concept and the claim ordeal was used to save the temmie?

Is anyone confirmed though? Esooa and tutuu are confirmed just by the fact that there were two claims. But if there's three

by the way, today is the last day where if a doc didn't claim, they have to claim

any new claims in the next day aren't going to be taken into consideration

just a heads up

/villagery pop out

Now's yr chance ted

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:00 pm Now's yr chance ted

nah i'm a vanilla villager

I'm actually the doctor

Jk don't LC me

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:04 pm I'm actually the doctor

Same tho!

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine


I gotta run. But we've got some doctor stuff to resolve.

Parting thoughts. I don't think Wilgy's claim looks great. He did hint (explicitly) that he was a doctor when he entered the game, though that is a standard Wilgy entrance so it was an easy one. Also, Wilgy isn't pushing his claim until now, at a moment when he and Alison are the leading wagons.

I guess I'm a leading wagon too, but whatever

I'll take a look at esooa and tutuu later

wilgy, are you hardclaiming?

Is it more likely that marmot/wilgy has teammate potential than Alison and either of them?

If so I'm wondering if it may be more logical to take one of them out first.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:17 pm Parting thoughts. I don't think Wilgy's claim looks great. He did hint (explicitly) that he was a doctor when he entered the game, though that is a standard Wilgy entrance so it was an easy one. Also, Wilgy isn't pushing his claim until now, at a moment when he and Alison are the leading wagons.

I guess I'm a leading wagon too, but whatever

I'll take a look at esooa and tutuu later

Oh godammit Marmot friend. I thought you had seen my actual claim in the following:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:31 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:57 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:35 am I'm not sure what to think of this. My first thought was "that's a cool gif, wtf am I reading?"

Does this make sense?

...Or am I just dumb? Could be Im just dumb... Yeah I'm too dumb to understand, let's hope Tutuu is correct.

Just please don't tell us your first post of the game was actually a doc claim.

He saw my claim and didn't shoot me lol

The first character in each sentence in my original quote in this blurb. Did you not see that and then randomly commented about my intro after? I M D O C Y - I'm Doc.

Yes I'm a doctor.

after the grand reveal

i'm feeling myself a tutuu / alison team

boom

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Tutuu Alison or you and Esooa?

i think a brief re-read of EoD1 should give you the answer to that question

the yeet should obv be in the doc claims fwiw

i expect the thread to go like this:

i think wilgy is favoured in this claim battle because

>mafia didn't kill any of the docs

which makes it so that it's more likely a fake doc claim occurred early on. once a doc goes, people will question why the second doctor is still alive.

and dunno if wolf team would risk leaving true doc IC claims alive until late game when a lot of us are cleared and one mafia is down.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:54 pm i think wilgy is favoured in this claim battle because

>mafia didn't kill any of the docs

which makes it so that it's more likely a fake doc claim occurred early on. once a doc goes, people will question why the second doctor is still alive.

and dunno if wolf team would risk leaving true doc IC claims alive until late game when a lot of us are cleared and one mafia is down.

lol

mafia used up their strongman shot n1 as ive said

clapping either me or esooa last night would have been risky because both of us have had at least 1 shot remaining and we could have cross-protected

wilgy was next in the poe. his ass was grass

if ted is town, im very confused about his stance that wilgy is the towniest from this trio. is it that unreasonable to think that he felt cornered and had no option but to claim?

how can you not find me as town? how can you not find eso as town?

@tedxtr, why are you not asking wilgy the question "why didn't you claim yesterday" ?

for protocol's sake, if i was a diligent and proper and well-mannered member of the town, it is correct for me to entertain the thought of wilgy town and eso scum

however, i'd rather be realistic

@DrWilgy why did you not claim yesterday? why are you claiming now?

from your pov, if you're town, 3 other people were claiming doc yesterday and only 1 was telling the truth

why did you not speak up?

why were you complacent with letting LC get yeeted?

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:16 pm @DrWilgy why did you not claim yesterday? why are you claiming now?

I figured I'd drop the hint and see what happens with LC. Also didn't want to fall for a tricksy bait and get shot for it. Only realized that I should reveal now due to the number of remaining players.

I'll be first to admit that I'm not smart when it comes to claims or mechanically solving a game.