Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[falcon45ca]

Alison, esooa, grogu, nanook, dom, mac, chopchop, sloonei, falcon, epi, tsp all seem townish in roughly that order

C4 still obviously maf
Poison still maf
Spf still maf

Grogu has 5 posts, wtf is this happy horse shit?

[falcon45ca]

Sorry, Grogu's vote on Essoa, not Alison. My bad.

[staypositivefriend]

Alison, esooa, grogu, nanook, dom, mac, chopchop, sloonei, falcon, epi, tsp all seem townish in roughly that order

C4 still obviously maf
Poison still maf
Spf still maf

-why poison maf?

-why spf maf?

-why chopchop town?

[Jackofhearts2005]

the real clincher is #817 and #819, in which two people (who I think are both town, btw) call him out for lack of game related activity, and he brushes them off with jokes intended to deflect attention.

now I see he has conveniently started his catchup - complete with a barrage of hot takes with no reasoning attached - coincidentally right after I start a wagon on him for active lurking.

I mean...would you prefer I go into detail about my work and slack schedule instead to explain the exact level of content I have that seems to have out a stick up your bum?

Cause “Jack isn’t caught up, tells jokes and makes hot takes so therefore he’s a wolf” is a silly thing to say.

[falcon45ca]

BK's a better option IMO

I think jack is more likely a hit

If they're both scum, we should hi-five later

[c4e5g3d5]

You literally say "go read my iso" instead of just answering the question.

I give her a direct path to the information Epi's asking for. Epi finds the information immediately. That's called answering a question.

This isn't even the thing I said you were vague about. Like you are just pulling shit out of your ass.

Sir we were in the middle of discussing #631 when you entered, please read the debrief packet before asking any more questions.

[Alison]

Alison, esooa, grogu, nanook, dom, mac, chopchop, sloonei, falcon, epi, tsp all seem townish in roughly that order

C4 still obviously maf
Poison still maf
Spf still maf

remind me why poison is maf

also talk to me about mac and chopchop townreads.

[Urist]

[VOTE: c4e5g3d5] aubergine
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

[BoKnows]

BK's a better option IMO

I think jack is more likely a hit

If they're both scum, we should hi-five later

No high fives... I know at least one of us is town. That one person is me! I wouldn't lie to your face like this falcon

[Urist]

Will resp to qs tonight when i have the time

[Alison]

foresight and dom should probably stop talking to each other for the next 24 hours for thread health reasons.

[Dom]

My experience is a bunch of games, most on AoPS, some on MU, and I'm looking for AI posts like a normal person.

What the fresh hell does this mean? Vague on vague on vague. I am not entertained.
[VOTE: C4] aubergine

"I have played mafia before. I look for alignment indicative posts"
This totally sidesteps the question. It doesn't do anyone justice. When called out on this, C4 launched into a rip against me saying I picked it up for BTSC_{[citation needed]}, saying that I am being coached_{[citation needed]}, and that I am just repeating everything he is saying about me_{[citation needed]}.

I'm unclear on why anyone is taking this fool seriously. He might not be bad-- my early read can be wrong. My gut on this vague statement can be a red herring. But his posts are devoid of any analysis or substance.

[staypositivefriend]

can someone who townreads urist tell me why

[Jackofhearts2005]

Trying to fight against my natural urge to give jokes and inconclusive statements about stuff from 20 pages ago.

#selfawareness

[c4e5g3d5]

foresight and dom should probably stop talking to each other for the next 24 hours for thread health reasons.

My experience is a bunch of games, most on AoPS, some on MU, and I'm looking for AI posts like a normal person.

What the fresh hell does this mean? Vague on vague on vague. I am not entertained.
[VOTE: C4] aubergine

"I have played mafia before. I look for alignment indicative posts"
This totally sidesteps the question. It doesn't do anyone justice. When called out on this, C4 launched into a rip against me saying I picked it up for BTSC_{[citation needed]}, saying that I am being coached_{[citation needed]}, and that I am just repeating everything he is saying about me_{[citation needed]}.

I'm unclear on why anyone is taking this fool seriously. He might not be bad-- my early read can be wrong. My gut on this vague statement can be a red herring. But his posts are devoid of any analysis or substance.

Okay well at the very least this is never w/w LOL

[Jackofhearts2005]

Or posts from this page tbh.

[Jackofhearts2005]

(Did someone ask for these pro cons list? I thought they were just a running joke. I ain’t doing one.)

[falcon45ca]

BK's a better option IMO

I think jack is more likely a hit

If they're both scum, we should hi-five later

No high fives... I know at least one of us is town. That one person is me! I wouldn't lie to your face like this falcon

Hmmmmm...wouldn't you? That's a lie right there!

[Alison]

can someone who townreads urist tell me why

i think it's just nanook who explicitly townreads him

I'm used to urist and I having completely different reads in forum mafia so I'm a little weirded out that we seem to be on the same page here but I also remember there were some recent games in video mafia where we were more or less in agreement and those are more recent than the times we disagreed with each other every time

[Dom]

Anyone have the sparknotes of the first 20 pages?

BoKnows most recent post before showing up just now as on Page 14.

that's true - it's just odd to me that jack had an opinion about the dynamics of the momentum on me at all before he had a stance or an opinion on me

like, one usually comes before the other. it's not inherently wolfy for jack to have an opinion about wagon dynamics without having an opinion about the wagons themselves - it's just distinct from the type of thought process that i typically expect to come from a town mindset

I don't really disagree with you, but wanted to add some context that I couldn't tell if you were intentionally omitting or not.
Jack is someone I always watch.

You literally say "go read my iso" instead of just answering the question.

I give her a direct path to the information Epi's asking for. Epi finds the information immediately. That's called answering a question.

This isn't even the thing I said you were vague about. Like you are just pulling shit out of your ass.

Sir we were in the middle of discussing #631 when you entered, please read the debrief packet before asking any more questions.

Sir, we're playing a fun game, so maybe just get off your high horse and treat others like human beings.

foresight and dom should probably stop talking to each other for the next 24 hours for thread health reasons.

I'm not going to pretend like I have done anything other than suspect someone who happens to like to be a jerk to get a rise out of people.

can someone who townreads urist tell me why

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[BoKnows]

BK's a better option IMO

I think jack is more likely a hit

If they're both scum, we should hi-five later

No high fives... I know at least one of us is town. That one person is me! I wouldn't lie to your face like this falcon

Hmmmmm...wouldn't you? That's a lie right there!

you will see

[Jackofhearts2005]

Alison serious enough early and now they’re probably just town.

[staypositivefriend]

can someone who townreads urist tell me why

i think it's just nanook who explicitly townreads him

I'm used to urist and I having completely different reads in forum mafia so I'm a little weirded out that we seem to be on the same page here but I also remember there were some recent games in video mafia where we were more or less in agreement and those are more recent than the times we disagreed with each other every time

his reads feel kind of lazy and kind of overconfident to me - they also seem to lack a level of internal consistency. urist was so confident that long con was mafia ~12ish hours ago that he was interpreting the thread dynamics around him

and now he seems to have dropped off of his list of scum reads entirely?

it's weird. is he just one of Those players that plays w/an overly confident veneer?

[BoKnows]

I like falcons game. Tock lean

[c4e5g3d5]

Sir, we're playing a fun game, so maybe just get off your high horse and treat others like human beings.

Alison had a point.

[BoKnows]

Looking to add to my town core. So far it consists of BoKnows & no-one. It's quite lonely. Please come and join me

[Esooa]

BK's a better option IMO

I think jack is more likely a hit

If they're both scum, we should hi-five later

No high fives... I know at least one of us is town. That one person is me! I wouldn't lie to your face like this falcon

Hmmmmm...wouldn't you? That's a lie right there!

this feels like an ace attorney post

[BoKnows]

BK's a better option IMO

I think jack is more likely a hit

If they're both scum, we should hi-five later

No high fives... I know at least one of us is town. That one person is me! I wouldn't lie to your face like this falcon

Hmmmmm...wouldn't you? That's a lie right there!

this feels like an ace attorney post

? ?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Falcon probably mafia

KZA mafia

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

I will now rage quit.

I’m the only civilian in this game. Y’all can stop hiding.

Except my polyamorous masons, Long Con and Marmot. It’s us against the world.

This shit doesn’t sound like town Sloonei and I am super good at reading Sloonei now if you didn’t get the memo.

[Esooa]

Alison serious enough early and now they’re probably just town.

??? read

[Esooa]

Alison serious enough early and now they’re probably just town.

??? read

(I'm saying questionable read)

[Alison]

foresight and dom should probably stop talking to each other for the next 24 hours for thread health reasons.

I'm not going to pretend like I have done anything other than suspect someone who happens to like to be a jerk to get a rise out of people.

It's gotten to the point where nobody even reads the argument you have so you aren't convincing anyone. You're just being toxic to each other for the sake of it. You think he's mafia, vote him and move on.

[staypositivefriend]

Falcon probably mafia

KZA mafia

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

I will now rage quit.

I’m the only civilian in this game. Y’all can stop hiding.

Except my polyamorous masons, Long Con and Marmot. It’s us against the world.

This shit doesn’t sound like town Sloonei and I am super good at reading Sloonei now if you didn’t get the memo.

very very interested in hearing how this read develops as you catch up w/the thread

[c4e5g3d5]

Hey @Esooa wanna talk about Jack? I'm suddenly liking him a lot and don't know if I'm crazy.

[Esooa]

Hey @Esooa wanna talk about Jack? I'm suddenly liking him a lot and don't know if I'm crazy.

I don't really have any thoughts or cares about his posts rn in either direction

[Jackofhearts2005]

I’m gonna do a thing and it’s not all that special and I’m sure some people will be like “that’s it?” and give me grief but I’m calling the bank shot now so I can point to it later.

[Dom]

"Dom, can you stop playing the game" is always a fun request to get.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Hey @Esooa wanna talk about Jack? I'm suddenly liking him a lot and don't know if I'm crazy.

I like you too, heehokun.

[Alison]

"Dom, can you stop playing the game" is always a fun request to get.

You can talk about other players

what are your feelings about boknows

[c4e5g3d5]

Hey @Esooa wanna talk about Jack? I'm suddenly liking him a lot and don't know if I'm crazy.

I don't really have any thoughts or cares about his posts rn in either direction

They're interspersed with so many super genuine lines. Like that thing about not wanting to do trust falls or that thing about how he thinks he can read Sloon.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Alison serious enough early and now they’re probably just town.

??? read

(I'm saying questionable read)

Mmm but have you considered that I’m really good at mafia?

Sometimes I even remember to submit my night actions.

[Alison]

Hey @Esooa wanna talk about Jack? I'm suddenly liking him a lot and don't know if I'm crazy.

I don't really have any thoughts or cares about his posts rn in either direction

They're interspersed with so many super genuine lines. Like that thing about not wanting to do trust falls or that thing about how he thinks he can read Sloon.

not seeing it

those lines are trivially fakeable

[Jackofhearts2005]

Pros: Yes
Cons: Long
Gameplan: N/A
Misc.: Data missing

My dating app matched us up for same Cons. Wanna mason?

I am actually going to slap a serious-but-early town read on LC for this post. Casual joke from the implicit perspective of a civilian on Day 0. I like Bachelor #1 here.

This isn’t necessarily alignment indicative given its Sloonei but it’s a weird read when the thread is like

Twenty people making pro con list jokes.
Sloonei: This particular joke is townie.

[c4e5g3d5]

Hey @Esooa wanna talk about Jack? I'm suddenly liking him a lot and don't know if I'm crazy.

I don't really have any thoughts or cares about his posts rn in either direction

They're interspersed with so many super genuine lines. Like that thing about not wanting to do trust falls or that thing about how he thinks he can read Sloon.

not seeing it

those lines are trivially fakeable

Everything is trivially fakeable, it's about would not could.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Lol I am super genuine for joking that I’m amazing at reading Sloonei after doing it correctly like twice following like forty games of doing it wrong.

Like whatever I am town and i do think those posts are wolfy but me saying I’m good at reading Sloonei is a joke.

[Urist]

foresight and dom should probably stop talking to each other for the next 24 hours for thread health reasons.

I'm not going to pretend like I have done anything other than suspect someone who happens to like to be a jerk to get a rise out of people.

He's not being a jerk to get a rise out of you, he's throwing curses and such out to feign emotion bc he's enclave

It's like reverse hanlon's. Stop assigning anything other than malice to his actions lol

[Jackofhearts2005]

Thread's asleep cmon.

@staypositivefriend
@Sloonei

Do you believe Grogu's claim?

Frozen in record time. [VOTE: staypositivefriend] aubergine

Lol gottem.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I said I wasn’t gonna tell jokes about posts from 20 pages ago. Yeet all liars.

[Dom]

"Dom, can you stop playing the game" is always a fun request to get.

You can talk about other players

what are your feelings about boknows

Boknows?
Well I just pointed out he posted on page 14 despite asking for a summary of the whole thread and that it's highly suspect he showed up right when he started getting attention.
I don't have thoughts on his pre-attention posts because they're pretty vacant. It's the circumstances of him reacting to being called out that are -worthy

[Jackofhearts2005]

Legit idk if I’ve ever seen Dom pretend to be tilted as a wolf but I’ve seen him actually get tilted as a townie a lot. And if I was wolfDom, I don’t think I’d play the getting fake pissed card halfway through D1.

This townread is undeserved but I probably townread Dom.