The Syndicate

Not planning*

God that's a terrible typo.

[VOTE: Ratrug] aubergine

The one that I least TR out of all of them.

Ok so

Comfortable clearing mikey

Still think ratrug is town

Alison is fine and martin is only mafia if its exactly with Alison so he's fine too

Still think fingers is town

Lc probably town

Esooa >rand town

And yet this game still feels like a slog

I don't really believe quin is mafia but I'm TRing his whole wagon so

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:23 pm There's probably exactly two or exactly zero mafia at 2-3 votes rn

Why would you think that there's two mafia in there?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:48 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:23 pm There's probably exactly two or exactly zero mafia at 2-3 votes rn

Why would you think that there's two mafia in there?

Its a throwaway half joke

Makes sense.

I think its impossible for 2 mafia to be in there and there's at most 1.

There would be more thread activity if that were the case, given that would mean a potential town sweep.

It's the kind of thing a Serious Mafia Player says when there's so many static wagons

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:50 pm Makes sense.

I think its impossible for 2 mafia to be in there and there's at most 1.

There would be more thread activity if that were the case, given that would mean a potential town sweep.

I don't think that's true but I also don't really care

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:41 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:25 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:06 pm if you want to know my real opinions then it's that Alison is a wolf


I wanted competing wagons between nanook/quin to see where Alison lands, but I don't particularly care right now to push that to get it done so I'm just telling you

This makes me feel better about you. I can't shake the feeling that Alison is a wolf, and while I gave her some towny points for her analysis of Falcon's ISO at the beginning of today, doubt has been creeping back ever since. I can't imagine Alison clearing a few people off Falcon's flip is out of her scumrange (I've never seen her as scum, but I can imagine based off reputation and her town play), and when Martin mentioned the off chance that the 3 wagons (me, Quin, Ratrug) might all be town, I thought about what the game would look like if that was true, and I think Alison would almost assuredly be a wolf there. Couple that with Alison's bad reads D1, and her continued bad read on me, I have a hard time thinking town!Alison is playing this poorly.

Poorly how? Or is it strictly with independent reads you think are bad?

I don't think they've been playing poorly from either alignment's perspective, though not very great. Which is part of the trouble for me. I can't see any strong agenda signs from them unless they're planning to deep-wolf, but even then that thought kinda doesn't hold any water since they partially just let the falcon wagon happen without really pushing or defending it.

I still have Alison on the list of possible wolves, but I don't think my suspicions are strong enough to vote them yet. Especially if they continue to solve as that could likely put them and their teammate into a tough box.

I mean, I already kind of explained this yesterday, but like yesterday for a lot of the day she was trying to paint a me/BK/ratrug team into existence, and all if it hinged on me being scum, which I know is false. Today, she is still calling me scummy, and had a PoE of me/Nook/Quin/Ratrug, but soft-removed Ratrug from the PoE, and hasn't spoken at all about Nook, but has also said me and Quin are anti-teamed, so it seems like she is chasing a PoE of me/Quin, that she simultaneously believes isn't correct (and I know is at most half correct).

I don't necessarily mean her process is poor, but last game I played with her, she bragged about having something like an 80% accuracy rate for her reads, and then followed through with all-but-one of her D1 reads being spot on, but this game, I don't really see that happening. The worlds she is building might have some coincidental hits, but they aren't hits because the world is correct-ish, instead they are just lucky hits (like if Ratrug flip scum, sure one of her reads yesterday would be "correct", but since this was prefaced on me being scum, the reasoning for the read doesn't check out)

I'm tunneling martin if rutrug flips town

There is some reason to think ratrug has equity with the chess kill but

Idk its pretty uninspiring

I'd rather kill Kyle or even bo

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:52 pm I'm tunneling martin if rutrug flips town

Martin is only ever mafia with Alison imo

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:52 pm I'm tunneling martin if rutrug flips town

but only if one of quin/seanzie are mafia
otherwise it doesn't mean anything

Eh I guess bo shouldn't be flipped before quin or seanzie

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:53 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:52 pm I'm tunneling martin if rutrug flips town

Martin is only ever mafia with Alison imo

can you expand on this

I'm okay with either quin/ratrug dying realistically and if one flips town I think it makes sense for the other to be shot

ts account wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:54 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:53 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:52 pm I'm tunneling martin if rutrug flips town

Martin is only ever mafia with Alison imo

can you expand on this

Alison has a godread on martin and says hes town

Ratrug is >rand town by d1 votecount

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:52 pm I'm tunneling martin if rutrug flips town

Not sure how you're going to reconcile an alleged Martin mafia alignment with the fact that I was more concerned about TS account being w/w on Falcon before I became the 2nd or 3rd vote on him

but sure

Wait that's wrong

Idk I'm still not convinced but

Yeah ratrug is fine

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:55 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:54 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:53 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:52 pm I'm tunneling martin if rutrug flips town

Martin is only ever mafia with Alison imo

can you expand on this

Alison has a godread on martin and says hes town

Alison generally has god-reads on me but she didn't proclaim it at any point this game, only that she read me as town.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:58 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:55 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:54 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:53 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:52 pm I'm tunneling martin if rutrug flips town

Martin is only ever mafia with Alison imo

can you expand on this

Alison has a godread on martin and says hes town

Alison generally has god-reads on me but she didn't proclaim it at any point this game, only that she read me as town.

If she gives a read on you I'm treating it as a god read unless she explicitly says it isn't

Theres ostensibly a pretty narrow poe but I still don't feel super confident

Idk I really hope this hits I don't want a hard game

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:58 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:58 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:55 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:54 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:53 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:52 pm I'm tunneling martin if rutrug flips town

Martin is only ever mafia with Alison imo

can you expand on this

Alison has a godread on martin and says hes town

Alison generally has god-reads on me but she didn't proclaim it at any point this game, only that she read me as town.

If she gives a read on you I'm treating it as a god read unless she explicitly says it isn't

What is a god read?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:59 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:58 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:58 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:55 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:54 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:53 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:52 pm I'm tunneling martin if rutrug flips town

Martin is only ever mafia with Alison imo

can you expand on this

Alison has a godread on martin and says hes town

Alison generally has god-reads on me but she didn't proclaim it at any point this game, only that she read me as town.

If she gives a read on you I'm treating it as a god read unless she explicitly says it isn't

What is a god read?

What it sounds like

Super high accuracy read

Inb4 Alison is snowing us again

If j get NKed remember my legacy

who got the gun though

Darnit.

I wasn't given the chemically propelled stinger weapon.

Was hoping to be given a free public green check of myself.

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:20 pm who got the gun though

hi when does the tunnel start

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:22 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:20 pm who got the gun though

hi when does the tunnel start

I'm voting you

I will avenge you Long Con if it’s the last thing I do. And it very well may be. I am the beesparado

So I’m thinking if the mafia chose me that means I’m likely wrong about a couple things lol not to figure out what.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:00 am Alison

MartinGG99
Long Con
Esooa

BoKnows
Kylemii

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Seanzie

Ratrug
ts account
Quin

So this was the last gth read I gave during the last day phase. I reckon these people wouldn’t have picked me, because it’s obvious I’d shoot one of them. These people might have picked me, while these people would have felt completely safe from me shooting them, and maybe I’m completely wrong on my reads and it’s one of them. Maybe I’m paranoid and overthinking.

martins vote on ratrug was fr so bad

nanook can die for his vote there too

like imo he was obviously towny and it makes literally no sense to vote him there

I don’t think ratrug was “so obviously townie” but at the same time I do think it’s suspicious how many votes they got and last minute too. I wouldn’t be surprised if mafia voted there, but to go for someone “so obviously townie” as you say, there would have had to been a reason. Who were the others in danger? Was it quin and Seanzie? Was the ratrug push a save

Where is Alison when I need her
Hope she feels like playing today. I need guidance

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:02 pm nanook can die for his vote there too

I think minimally @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME should explain what he saw at the last minute that caused him to flip from "Ratrug is towny" to "Ratrug is where my vote should go".

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:44 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:00 am Alison

MartinGG99
Long Con
Esooa

BoKnows
Kylemii

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Seanzie

Ratrug
ts account
Quin

So this was the last gth read I gave during the last day phase. I reckon these people wouldn’t have picked me, because it’s obvious I’d shoot one of them. These people might have picked me, while these people would have felt completely safe from me shooting them, and maybe I’m completely wrong on my reads and it’s one of them. Maybe I’m paranoid and overthinking.

I see that you are really embracing the glow text:P

safest shot is quin, just cleans up yesterday's wagons and gives us a better idea of the movement

@Seanzie i love it. If I die in this game today, I will still be happy because this game gave me glow text lol If I could write all my posts in glow, I would.

ts account wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:52 pm safest shot is quin, just cleans up yesterday's wagons and gives us a better idea of the movement

I disagree. I voted for Quin. Why would they give me a shot, when the most likely person I would shoot is them? I think I got to go for one of the more mid suspicious people