The Syndicate

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:15 pm**

Mizery wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:14 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:13 pm I think all of the mafia are within (this is not a POE):

Dyson
Lomo
Mizery
Nanook
MacDougall
isn't this

by definition

a POE

No, a POE assumes that I have everyone else as near-lock town. Hence, the finality of "Elimination".

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:16 pm**

Motel and Falcon are not teamed. this is based off of one interaction so obviously one of my best reads

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:17 pm**

PoE by definition assumes that mafia could not possibly exist outside of it. Otheriwse you might as well just call it "reads".

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:17 pm**

My PoE is the entire game minus JJJ and Dunya

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:17 pm**

I don't like anyone who townreads TSP so if someone wanted to tell me why I should townread TSP i would love that

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:18 pm**

Falcon is nearly out of the PoE too..

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:19 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:17 pm My PoE is the entire game minus JJJ and Dunya

do you have any tinfoil for either?

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:20 pm**

lomo
Mizery
Dyson

This is my list of optimal chops.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:20 pm**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:19 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:17 pm My PoE is the entire game minus JJJ and Dunya
do you have any tinfoil for either?

No

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:21 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:50 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:48 am Town role guy should give a role to someone in upper POE/lower town. This should be decided on by the town and announced in the thread
9 posts left.

Yes announcing who i give the pr roles to in the thread is a great idea. If you are mafia. You're banned from commenting further on this subject.

I think you should give it to me

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:21 pm**

Ok, that does it for my AMA today, let's chop Dyson since we already have 1 vote frozen on him.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:21 pm**

If JJJ Dyson Nanook and Axe can all agree on a chop target I will 100% back

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:22 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:17 pm My PoE is the entire game minus JJJ and Dunya

Yah if they're mafia we probably always lose tbh, that's the correct play

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:22 pm**

Is falcon a super serious player I suppose I wanna ask that

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:22 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:22 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:17 pm My PoE is the entire game minus JJJ and Dunya
Yah if they're mafia we probably always lose tbh, that's the correct play

Game was already won or lost, we're just going through the motions.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:23 pm**

We probably should kill lomo i suppose

[VOTE: lomo] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:49 pm**

As people are now reaching the post cap, I am revealing the consequence of going over: If you continue posting after reaching your limit, your vote is nullified. So, y'know, don't. Thanks. Bonk.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:57 pm**

Alright, I'm going to vote [VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:58 pm**

I better start posting more, I only have an hour to nullify my vote

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:58 pm**

Ha, it worked! My first vote!

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:59 pm**

Votes an hour before EOD

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:01 pm**

Tomorrow I'm going to vote dunya

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:12 pm**

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:01 pm Tomorrow I'm going to vote dunya

Today I'm going to vote you

[VOTE: dyson] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:13 pm**

Jk

[VOTE: jay] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:16 pm**

[VOTE: dyson ] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:21 pm**

@lost monkey You going to vote last second?

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:33 pm**

[VOTE: dyson] aubergine along with the crowd

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:33 pm**

smh don’t vote jay

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:34 pm**

@whoeber is the gift giver give gift to Nanook please

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:36 pm**

[VOTE: scotty ] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:45 pm**

Mac's vote is still here, uncalled, essentially at the deadline. If the deadline passes and that's still the case, he's an abject mafia read. I don't care what came before, and I don't care when his bedtime is. That is terrible in every sense of the word, and I cannot fathom an appropriate explanation for it. I could easily be the Day 1 elimination right now, and that vote is essential for making it so. He has no excuse.

Nanook should know better. Whatever his read on me, in the past he has been inclined to wait with me so that either my alignment becomes clearer to him or I just get night killed. His vote is suboptimal, and in a way that he is normally attentive to. Bad look.

Dyson's suspicion of me looked okay once he explained it. I would still call him POE-caliber, and if he ends up the chop so be it. I would prefer Scotty right now.

I think NAA is town. Move Mac into the POE to compensate. I don't think I have room for Nanook, which means the POE is just going to have to be bigger than it's supposed to be. That's not a terribly surprising development, and it's primarily because of the following:

Town is playing this game very poorly. Just straight up -- it has been a brutal display. It doesn't even matter who is town and who isn't: nearly any iteration of this roster as it currently stands has not been playing a strong town game. There is next to zero cohesion. People are off in their own little worlds playing I Will Take My Ball And Go Solve By Myself. Communication is stunted and shallow. This is a loss waiting to happen if the direction doesn't improve sharply on Day 2. So long as I am the game's newest participant and one of its possible chops, I am not the best person to be taking on that mantle. If I die today I literally can't anyway.

This needn't dishearten any of you or demoralize. It's a harsh assessment, but awareness breeds change. Let's be better gang. Work as a team, or at least try. Use your post allotment. Be friendly without being sarcastic or an arse. Communicate. If I am around I pledge to try my best at doing my part. I acknowledge that I didn't use my own 50 posts as well as I could have: I wasted a few and didn't play with a ton of energy.

If today is a mafia flip, then this assessment can be softened. Well done. It won't be if it's me. If it's a town flip, look inward even if you didn't vote for it. Here's a parting POE pool:

Nanook
RondoDimBuckle
Dyson sphere
MacDougall
tutuu
lost monkey
falcon45ca
Scotty

The names are not ordered. It's one more name than it needs to be, even if one of them is about to be chopped. If I absolutely must drop one, make it tutuu. All of them need to be assessed with diligence, as do the people I didn't list. The game feels bad enough that I don't entirely trust the POE approach itself. It's less difficult than it should be to clear the bar, because the bar is too low.

I'm leaving my vote on Scotty.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:49 pm**

@TonyStarkPrime If you want to join the majority come join me on Scotty

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:53 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:45 pm Mac's vote is still here, uncalled, essentially at the deadline. If the deadline passes and that's still the case, he's an abject mafia read. I don't care what came before, and I don't care when his bedtime is. That is terrible in every sense of the word, and I cannot fathom an appropriate explanation for it. I could easily be the Day 1 elimination right now, and that vote is essential for making it so. He has no excuse.

Nanook should know better. Whatever his read on me, in the past he has been inclined to wait with me so that either my alignment becomes clearer to him or I just get night killed. His vote is suboptimal, and in a way that he is normally attentive to. Bad look.

Dyson's suspicion of me looked okay once he explained it. I would still call him POE-caliber, and if he ends up the chop so be it. I would prefer Scotty right now.

I think NAA is town. Move Mac into the POE to compensate. I don't think I have room for Nanook, which means the POE is just going to have to be bigger than it's supposed to be. That's not a terribly surprising development, and it's primarily because of the following:

Town is playing this game very poorly. Just straight up -- it has been a brutal display. It doesn't even matter who is town and who isn't: nearly any iteration of this roster as it currently stands has not been playing a strong town game. There is next to zero cohesion. People are off in their own little worlds playing I Will Take My Ball And Go Solve By Myself. Communication is stunted and shallow. This is a loss waiting to happen if the direction doesn't improve sharply on Day 2. So long as I am the game's newest participant and one of its possible chops, I am not the best person to be taking on that mantle. If I die today I literally can't anyway.

This needn't dishearten any of you or demoralize. It's a harsh assessment, but awareness breeds change. Let's be better gang. Work as a team, or at least try. Use your post allotment. Be friendly without being sarcastic or an arse. Communicate. If I am around I pledge to try my best at doing my part. I acknowledge that I didn't use my own 50 posts as well as I could have: I wasted a few and didn't play with a ton of energy.

If today is a mafia flip, then this assessment can be softened. Well done. It won't be if it's me. If it's a town flip, look inward even if you didn't vote for it. Here's a parting POE pool:

Nanook
RondoDimBuckle
Dyson sphere
MacDougall
tutuu
lost monkey
falcon45ca
Scotty

The names are not ordered. It's one more name than it needs to be, even if one of them is about to be chopped. If I absolutely must drop one, make it tutuu. All of them need to be assessed with diligence, as do the people I didn't list. The game feels bad enough that I don't entirely trust the POE approach itself. It's less difficult than it should be to clear the bar, because the bar is too low.

I'm leaving my vote on Scotty.

My read is on your predecessor, not you.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:53 pm**

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:54 pm**

I dont think your doom and gloom or your (by your standards) scathing condemnation of play today is very warranted tbh

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:56 pm**

Like to be clear i normally give you space to self resolve because I'm not particularly good at reading you early and you tend to self resolve by n2

But thats in games you start in

If you'd subbed into a null slot I'd likely be giving you that treatment. But you didn't, you subbed into a slot I think is mafia. I'm not going to abandon that just cause oh now you're here so I'm not allowed to vote Jay d1, thats dumb

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:59 pm**

Just in case I die in the night my legacy is: good luck have fun town dont take any of my reads too seriously

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:05 pm**

@Scotty was bonked. He was a Guilty Discord Member.

N1 will last for 24 hours. Please have night actions submitted to me within the next 23 hours, please.

Poll EOD D1

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:14 pm**

Posts counts as of EOD D1

Spoiler: show

Available post counts for D2; to reference, please see your "Posts in topic" amount in your avatar bit to the left.

dunya 189
Dyson sphere 131
falcon45ca 200
JaggedJimmyJay 150
lost monkey 106
MacDougall 199
Master Radishes 174
Mizery 160
motel room 136
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 169
NotAnAxehole 132
RondoDimBuckle 178
TonyStarkPrime 133
tutuu 200

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:14 pm**

@dyachei is replacing @dunya.

@Alison is replacing @lost monkey.

New available post counts for D2:

Alison 100
dyachei 100
Dyson sphere 131
falcon45ca 200
JaggedJimmyJay 150
MacDougall 199
Master Radishes 174
Mizery 160
motel room 136
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 169
NotAnAxehole 132
RondoDimBuckle 178
TonyStarkPrime 133
tutuu 200

Posted: **Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:57 pm**

@dyachei was done diddily killed. They were an Innocent Discord Member.

D2 has begun. You have 48 hours to decide the next bonk.

Host reminder: Please do not speculate why substitutions were made.

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:58 pm**

Posted: **Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:59 pm**

hihi

will write more stuff later

i think the last 2 mafia are falcon and lost monkey

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

gratz on the peeps who voted scotty. mans had me pocketed. did yall iso him? half of his posts are suckin up to me. this is why u can't trust men. all men are liars...

Posted: **Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:04 pm**

That is the absolute lamest possible kill. Come on.

Posted: **Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:04 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:04 pm That is the absolute lamest possible kill. Come on.

they just trynna win allow it fam ;-;

Posted: **Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:08 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:59 pm hihi

will write more stuff later

i think the last 2 mafia are falcon and lost monkey

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

gratz on the peeps who voted scotty. mans had me pocketed. did yall iso him? half of his posts are suckin up to me. this is why u can't trust men. all men are liars...

It’s not falcon

Posted: **Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:08 pm**

And lomo is Alison now so

Posted: **Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:08 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:08 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:59 pm hihi

will write more stuff later

i think the last 2 mafia are falcon and lost monkey

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

gratz on the peeps who voted scotty. mans had me pocketed. did yall iso him? half of his posts are suckin up to me. this is why u can't trust men. all men are liars...
It’s not falcon

did u catch him softing PR or what breh ion get it

Posted: **Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:10 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:08 pm And lomo is Alison now so

so wat

i think the wolves were powerless / afk during eod1 to let a wolf get chopped with 4 votes

so simplest explanation that its falcon who post capped himself and couldnt move/talk and monkey who was afk

lemme quote he stuff from scotty's iso i thought were w/w

Posted: **Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:11 pm**

Interactions of Scotty and Nanook

From Scotty

Scotty did not mention Nanook a single time in the game.

From Nanook

Spoiler: show

This appears to be Nanook's only mention of Scotty. By the numbers this functions as the slightest of town reads, based upon perceived lack of partners. I shrug.

~~~

Conclusion

I have no reason to remove Nanook from the POE pool. He can be Scotty's teammate.

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