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Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:29 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Nanook is a fine chop, but I’d have expected him to put on his hard hat today if he were a wolf and he hasn’t done that. Signals another partner in low poe maybe

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:29 am
by RondoDimBuckle
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:28 am Doesn’t day not end for like 7 hours
I usually sleep around 6 hours or more per night. I dont know about you

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:51 am
by ilario
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:29 am
Spoiler: show
ilario wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:26 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:33 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:34 am
ilario wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:30 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:28 am Okay, seriously I'm tunnelled here, if anyone wants to bring up a case on someone I'll listen to it. Hell I'll even listen to Nanook if he makes a case.

If you don't I'm going to go to bed with the assumption Nanook will flip and flip red.
whats ur reads outside of nook
Rather than type it all up I'll just quote what I said already.
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:06 am Town:
Lime Coke
Enderwiggin
Jackofheats2005
Scotty

Lesser Town:
TonyStarkPrime
ilario

The rest:
Gavial
falcon45ca

Lesser Scum:
Dyson Sphere

One Wolf:
RondoDimBuckle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
ilario wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:56 am
Seanzie wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:38 am Joking!

Nook town.
Seanzie wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:45 am Also Nook/Rondo probably not teamed.
looking at this again, it is really strange for him to out a townread on someone and then make a "not-teamed" read with that same person in the immediate post. if you tr someone it would normally mean they cant be teamed with anybody in the lobby...so i do wonder why he chose those 2 names specifically..
scum says nook town, scum says nook/rondo opposite teams, implication - Rondo Scum. Possibilities A) Rondo Scum, because scum told the truth B) Nanook scum, because scum lied C) Nanook and Rondo both town because scum lied D) Nanook and Rondo both wolves - attempt at deep wolf through 50/50 one must be town

Which do you think is more likely? I lean towards Nanook being scum but I am open to the possibility of both of us being town.

Hmmm it’s hard to say off the top of my head because I don’t want to base a whole read on an off-hand comment made by a scum who may have expected to be going down that day. Though gth I would say the timing of Sean calling nook town was probably done In a way to pocket nook after nook had just vocalized a townrrad on Sean. So if I had to pick a scum based on just this one quote from Sean I would probably say you? But I’ve had your posting today to be reasonably towny which might mean it’s option C.
so if we lean nanook town and me town what does that do to your reads?
Not a whole lot, I’m still at a place where I don’t have many slots cemented as lock town never rescind until lylo status , except for maybe jack heart and potentially falcon/lc? (And even then I don’t feel super confident on these slots) Which means with 11 slots alive there’s still plenty of room in my poe for both you and nook to be town here.

If I had to order my tiers I would actually have it something like this

Jackheart falcon lime coke - don’t think there’s a scum here but if these slots are alive in lylo I would reconsider

Ender gav - Have reasons to think they’re town And nothing so far that pings me to see them as scum

Which leaves my poe as nook rondo scot tsp dyson

The two bottom tiers I don’t feel very strongly about so there’s room for interchange between those.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:00 am
by Gavial
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:29 am Nanook is a fine chop, but I’d have expected him to put on his hard hat today if he were a wolf and he hasn’t done that. Signals another partner in low poe maybe
He technically has done that by putting full focus on a push on me.
Notice that it never changed though (since day 1) and he doesn’t directly have a valid reason for it.
His only direct read this game has been “Sean obvious town” which was like the same read Sean gave him (or at least close to the read being “Nanook obvious town”. Seems planned.
I remember being scum with Nanook once where he wanted to town read the entire mafia team but I think in this case he just wanted to town read his one partner Sean.

If Nanook was town he would have given more reads and he would have had a different reaction to Sean’s flip like “Oh geez my one read flipped red I was dead wrong!” Or something like that.

Also remember I am busy and probably won’t be on so much for the rest of this phase.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:01 am
by Gavial
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:29 am Nanook is a fine chop, but I’d have expected him to put on his hard hat today if he were a wolf and he hasn’t done that. Signals another partner in low poe maybe
Here made it more bigger so it’s more clear.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:01 am
by Gavial
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:29 am Nanook is a fine chop, but I’d have expected him to put on his hard hat today if he were a wolf and he hasn’t done that. Signals another partner in low poe maybe
Here made it more bigger so it’s more clear.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:03 am
by RondoDimBuckle
I am leaning towards chopping ender and nanook for [REDACTED] reasons

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:20 am
by EnderWiggin
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:03 am I am leaning towards chopping ender and nanook for [REDACTED] reasons
Yo.

I'm literally pushing Nanook.

How are we paired.

What.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:23 am
by Dyson sphere
:Mongoose:

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:28 am
by Dyson sphere
👷

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:29 am
by Dyson sphere
Look, there's the hard hat you've been looking for. I posted the ferret because it's cute.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:31 am
by RondoDimBuckle
EnderWiggin wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:20 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:03 am I am leaning towards chopping ender and nanook for [REDACTED] reasons
Yo.

I'm literally pushing Nanook.

How are we paired.

What.
Ok fair, I kinda tuned out after we got seanzie I should really ISO again tomorrow

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:37 am
by RondoDimBuckle
[VOTE: nanook ] aubergine just to make it official

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:52 am
by EnderWiggin
Going to sleep now.

Please do not do crazy wagons in the morning.

Please do not flip Gav.

I will not be up for EOD.

G'night.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:16 am
by RondoDimBuckle
Less than an hour before I sleep

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:19 am
by EnderWiggin
Minor legacy:
Use my reads but don't treat as sacred.

Verify and check. I could've gotten something wrong. I trust town

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:19 am
by EnderWiggin
Just in case I die

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:28 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Sorry I’ve been kinda not here this phase. Anything interesting I should be looking at? Anyone in particular people are unsure about that I should dig into? Otherwise, I’m just gonna catch up.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:31 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:28 am Sorry I’ve been kinda not here this phase. Anything interesting I should be looking at? Anyone in particular people are unsure about that I should dig into? Otherwise, I’m just gonna catch up.
We’re shrugging and killing Nanook earlier than normal, I’d read the Gav iso and see what you think on it. We’re delaying on Ender/Rondo/Falcon concerns until later. Just catching up is fine. Gavial broke gimmick

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:32 am
by RondoDimBuckle
I dont mind dying tomorrow

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:33 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Oh and Dyson exists which is bad for my Poe count

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:43 am
by Jackofhearts2005
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:31 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:28 am Sorry I’ve been kinda not here this phase. Anything interesting I should be looking at? Anyone in particular people are unsure about that I should dig into? Otherwise, I’m just gonna catch up.
We’re shrugging and killing Nanook earlier than normal, I’d read the Gav iso and see what you think on it. We’re delaying on Ender/Rondo/Falcon concerns until later. Just catching up is fine. Gavial broke gimmick
Shame.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:45 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Kill ender tomorrow

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:45 am
by RondoDimBuckle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:45 am Kill ender tomorrow
why not today?

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:51 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:45 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:45 am Kill ender tomorrow
why not today?
I don't really have the time to push people off of me before eod

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:52 am
by RondoDimBuckle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:51 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:45 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:45 am Kill ender tomorrow
why not today?
I don't really have the time to push people off of me before eod
ok well if you dont want to try thats fine.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:54 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:52 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:51 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:45 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:45 am Kill ender tomorrow
why not today?
I don't really have the time to push people off of me before eod
ok well if you dont want to try thats fine.
I mean, I think its fair to say i've tried most of the day. I just don't have a ton of time between now and deadline 🤷‍♀️

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:54 am
by RondoDimBuckle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:54 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:52 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:51 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:45 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:45 am Kill ender tomorrow
why not today?
I don't really have the time to push people off of me before eod
ok well if you dont want to try thats fine.
I mean, I think its fair to say i've tried most of the day. I just don't have a ton of time between now and deadline 🤷‍♀️
can I get a novelty list of POE so when you flip we can read it for spew or use it as a bible if you're town?

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:58 am
by RondoDimBuckle
Ok well good night see you after flip, I blame scotty for not being the town leader I hoped he was if we dont get a wolf /s

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:01 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:54 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:54 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:52 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:51 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:45 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:45 am Kill ender tomorrow
why not today?
I don't really have the time to push people off of me before eod
ok well if you dont want to try thats fine.
I mean, I think its fair to say i've tried most of the day. I just don't have a ton of time between now and deadline 🤷‍♀️
can I get a novelty list of POE so when you flip we can read it for spew or use it as a bible if you're town?
My thoughts are largely unchanged, adjusted a bit for one less slot theyre:

Ender is very likely mafia

Scotty poe on basis of sean probably being bussed, if ender flips town scotty has high chance of being mafia, if ender is red scotty is just middle poe

Between dyson/falcon/gav/tsp two have to be taken out. I think gav and jack are a pseudo difference check so gav is a great flip imo. For the other three, world building is king, but I haven't done that leg work so not sure which two make the most sense to take out based on that.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:03 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
My lock town reads are you, lime, and ilario. I'm not nearly as confident in those reads as I'd like, some of the logic is fairly flimsy to be totally honest, but at this point in the game I have to lock someone or the game is unsolvable

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:26 pm
by ilario
Woah, I wasn’t expecting you to have those as your lock towns, can you go into it some more ?

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:27 pm
by ilario
Personally I think a vote in tsp Scotty ender would reveal the most Info for my solve but I don’t know the likelihood of that being able to happen in the short timespan we have, esp since I’m going to sleep very soon

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:29 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
ilario wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:26 pm Woah, I wasn’t expecting you to have those as your lock towns, can you go into it some more ?
Rondo's probably town, lime did the town thing, im sponging townreads on you

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:32 pm
by ilario
[VOTE: tsp ] aubergine yolo

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:32 pm
by ilario
Probs won’t be back for eod glgl everyone

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:33 pm
by ilario
I feel like there’s one in tsp/dyson that’s what my gut tells me

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:41 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
[VOTE: tsp] aubergine ig

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:45 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

Tony’s not a good cfd.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:47 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
I’m willing to cfd onto Falcon, though. If he was bad yesterday, he’s got 17 total posts as of today.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:49 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:45 pm [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

Tony’s not a good cfd.
We could do gav instead

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:51 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:49 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:45 pm [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

Tony’s not a good cfd.
We could do gav instead
I haven’t gotten around to isoing Gav. What’s the argument for wolf!Gav?

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:52 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
No time like the present I guess.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:53 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
How much of an argument do you need

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:53 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Oh I still have 3 hours. Idk why I thought the day was ending now. Must be bad at math.

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:54 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:53 pm How much of an argument do you need
I mean…he’s null in my book but there are at least 3 sub-null players so a lot but not much? 🙃

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:56 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Two of those sub nulls are voting Tony btw. 🧐

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:57 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:54 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:53 pm How much of an argument do you need
I mean…he’s null in my book but there are at least 3 sub-null players so a lot but not much? 🙃
Gimmick was >rand mafia for him, he's largely been boring and that's >rand mafia for him

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:57 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:56 pm Two of those sub nulls are voting Tony btw. 🧐
I mean he's not my first choice, but ilario parked there so he's currently the most viable counterwagon. And he is in my poe so 🤷‍♀️

Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:01 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:57 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:54 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:53 pm How much of an argument do you need
I mean…he’s null in my book but there are at least 3 sub-null players so a lot but not much? 🙃
Gimmick was >rand mafia for him, he's largely been boring and that's >rand mafia for him
K.

How do you feel about Falcon?