you should probs claim it 24 hours in if it's just 1 person
that will allow time for discussion
not me though I'm lazy
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
Nanook, while low efforting, is giving something to work with and trying to vote according to how he feels. Also when I gave my first townlist I was thinking of putting him on it, but was afraid of pulling the trigger too early, but then he put himself on top of the list for me and I decided "Sure, I'll accept that" and I'm keeping him there the rest of the game because it's funny and would be amazing if he is indeed town.sig wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:21 pmWhy those three?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:20 pmNanook, Falcon, LP would be most confident townreads.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:08 pmwho are your top town?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:51 pmMy thing is that Gavial's mafia game is that his viewpoint is zoned in way more, as in we saw him just tunnel the hell out of Mac during our last game, and I remember him tunneling Alison all game in Baby Mafia.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:48 pmI feel I've outlined my feelings on Gav's slot pretty clearly. Do you have a specific question in mind?
I'd put Gav at 72% scum
I didn't keep up with the rest of the game after I died, how was he during the rest of the game when he was mafia? Did he give dichotomies like he's doing this game during Akemi Mafia?
Everyone else I've listed on my townlist is slightly below but I would not be voting today or any time soon.
What do you think of Falcon voting off the wagons?
@sigLime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:28 pmNanook, while low efforting, is giving something to work with and trying to vote according to how he feels. Also when I gave my first townlist I was thinking of putting him on it, but was afraid of pulling the trigger too early, but then he put himself on top of the list for me and I decided "Sure, I'll accept that" and I'm keeping him there the rest of the game because it's funny and would be amazing if he is indeed town.sig wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:21 pmWhy those three?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:20 pmNanook, Falcon, LP would be most confident townreads.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:08 pmwho are your top town?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:51 pmMy thing is that Gavial's mafia game is that his viewpoint is zoned in way more, as in we saw him just tunnel the hell out of Mac during our last game, and I remember him tunneling Alison all game in Baby Mafia.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:48 pmI feel I've outlined my feelings on Gav's slot pretty clearly. Do you have a specific question in mind?
I'd put Gav at 72% scum
I didn't keep up with the rest of the game after I died, how was he during the rest of the game when he was mafia? Did he give dichotomies like he's doing this game during Akemi Mafia?
Everyone else I've listed on my townlist is slightly below but I would not be voting today or any time soon.
What do you think of Falcon voting off the wagons?
Falcon because of posts like #649 where it's a grammatical microread that I've seen him do before as town, and I feel as though that would be difficult as fuck to simulate as mafia even with practice.
LP just overall attempting to solve and trying to figure out what the best vote is for town that actually provides something for the game. Details in reads are pretty good. Responses to pressure were fine as well, nothing over the top, and just continued to play.
Okay, I could see why you'd think that, but I'd counter as I did. So really think that's a wash. I'd not say I'm ever afraid to be a solo push I'll yammer away and get ignored if I really want to tunnel more so that I was reading up and like i said not a fan of the whole vote setting upper thing. Now I do still need to ISO you, which I'll probably do tomorrow/maybe next day.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:29 pm It just seemed a rather 180 turn around from your catchup to a hard assault as soon as a little bit of backup came.
Whihc to me indicates you were afraid just pushing me on your own would be bad.
I also saw you put me, Sabie, and Falcon as the Mafia team which seems weird since I was pushing both Sabie and Falcon a lot yesterday. I don't really think there is ever a world where pushing 2 busses day 1 is a play any Mafia takes.
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:31 pmI like Paranoia and all, but I think Mafia already know which of them did the kill, so not like the others who didn't kill would spew from pressure no?
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
You know, I didn't really consider that. That's fair not to just end discussion with a early yeet.Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:36 pmLinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:31 pmI like Paranoia and all, but I think Mafia already know which of them did the kill, so not like the others who didn't kill would spew from pressure no?
We're probably going to vote off whatever name I say, so I assume the idea is to encourage discussion instead of phoning it in early in the day after we've already got a player to chop.
If Mac jumped on, that's scummy AF. Not sure I'd he was there before tho
if you're super worried that you can't tomorrow, you can reveal now tbh
It was Mac or TSP (maybe both) who were on before mefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:39 pmIf Mac jumped on, that's scummy AF. Not sure I'd he was there before tho
OK, EOD shenanigans doesn't reflect poorly on MacMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:13 pmI voted for Seanzie about 3 hrs into the day and didn't change it. I also made no case or effort it was just an RVS vote and I got busy. If you're going to sus me please fact check your bullshit first.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:10 pm I don't recall seeing your vote on them prior to the EoD, I only remembered seeing Dolby's.
But you still are also very low posting and haven't done anything which is fairly out of character for you.
I'm allowed to gave a low effort game and sussing me for it is crap.
Probably will vget the most info from a sabie vote vs someone else. I'd like them to jump in and kinda give some thoughts though.sig wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:42 pm Sabie's a mixed bag from her iso so her mafia meta is a bit different than town mainly based off cases/votes
Mafia camp
1. She's being a lower poster which is a mafia tell for her
2. Doesn"t seem to be case building really, just jumping onto other wagons.
3. The marmot, gavil, sean jump isn't great and I do think LP made a good point re thoughts on marmot. Now that is something you see from both civ/mafia sabie, but usually her indecisiveness is based off her own cases, not existing wagons and is more like Im not sure if i should vote for person Y.
Town camp
1. Her posts seem genuine, like I've seen from her town game minus lack of hunting
2. I think she was being honest during our brief discussion/unsure. Which is also within her civ meta more so than mafia.
So right off the bat struggling to find more town than potential mafia tells I would like some other people familar with her meta to weight in though. My issue is she also gets mischopped alot.
Eh kinda pointless now that he's said he has a red yeah? Presumably mafia know who carried the kill lol
It should be NAA who started the CFD.
There's no hammer, soLinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:38 pmYou know, I didn't really consider that. That's fair not to just end discussion with a early yeet.Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:36 pmLinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:31 pmI like Paranoia and all, but I think Mafia already know which of them did the kill, so not like the others who didn't kill would spew from pressure no?
We're probably going to vote off whatever name I say, so I assume the idea is to encourage discussion instead of phoning it in early in the day after we've already got a player to chop.
I very much disagree with this statement.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:50 pmThere's no hammer, soLinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:38 pmYou know, I didn't really consider that. That's fair not to just end discussion with a early yeet.Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:36 pmLinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:31 pmI like Paranoia and all, but I think Mafia already know which of them did the kill, so not like the others who didn't kill would spew from pressure no?
We're probably going to vote off whatever name I say, so I assume the idea is to encourage discussion instead of phoning it in early in the day after we've already got a player to chop.
Making reads when there's a red check but you don't know who the red check is is fairly pointless, since you're going to have to reevaluate those reads in light of the red anyways
I found your dip scummy, and I still do.
I mean, it isn't like that at all, since you don't normally expect to have a red check lol. It's not even close to a true comparisonLinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:53 pmI very much disagree with this statement.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:50 pmThere's no hammer, soLinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:38 pmYou know, I didn't really consider that. That's fair not to just end discussion with a early yeet.Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:36 pmLinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:31 pmI like Paranoia and all, but I think Mafia already know which of them did the kill, so not like the others who didn't kill would spew from pressure no?
We're probably going to vote off whatever name I say, so I assume the idea is to encourage discussion instead of phoning it in early in the day after we've already got a player to chop.
Making reads when there's a red check but you don't know who the red check is is fairly pointless, since you're going to have to reevaluate those reads in light of the red anyways
That's like saying making any reads day 1 is pointless.
Or just read when you don't have a hard red check pointless.
Reads are still useful since it forces Mafia to back their own reads which will be default have to be fake since they already know that the person the Mafia read is not Mafia.
Reads also are good for bouncing ideas around and seeing which actually end up making sense in the long run.
True if we say X is Town and X ends up being the red check that was pointless, but you can still make inferences based on who was town reading them.
Not to mention Mafia probably want to distance from the killer now that they know they are going to die today.
I agree here/with Doby. As soon as people get a red check everyone will bounce and a fair amount of people haven't even gotten on yet.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:53 pmI very much disagree with this statement.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:50 pmThere's no hammer, soLinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:38 pmYou know, I didn't really consider that. That's fair not to just end discussion with a early yeet.Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:36 pmLinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:31 pmI like Paranoia and all, but I think Mafia already know which of them did the kill, so not like the others who didn't kill would spew from pressure no?
We're probably going to vote off whatever name I say, so I assume the idea is to encourage discussion instead of phoning it in early in the day after we've already got a player to chop.
Making reads when there's a red check but you don't know who the red check is is fairly pointless, since you're going to have to reevaluate those reads in light of the red anyways
That's like saying making any reads day 1 is pointless.
Or just read when you don't have a hard red check pointless.
Reads are still useful since it forces Mafia to back their own reads which will be default have to be fake since they already know that the person the Mafia read is not Mafia.
Reads also are good for bouncing ideas around and seeing which actually end up making sense in the long run.
True if we say X is Town and X ends up being the red check that was pointless, but you can still make inferences based on who was town reading them.
Not to mention Mafia probably want to distance from the killer now that they know they are going to die today.
Meh, really nothing to say then defense wise. I was around for the entire first portion of day 1 giving some reads and contributing as much as i can. Def more than other people, didn't bounce D0, but during D1, and literally the only pressure I actually got besides vague seem sus was a joke I made to dizzy. Not like there was anything i could counter or say in my defense with when I had like a chihuahua style player yapping at me. (No offense intended Gullio) and it was based off a very obvious string of jokes.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:54 pmI found your dip scummy, and I still do.
I found Sabie's wagon a bit sus, but given how EOD turned out I want that flip
I"ll literally requote the post that got Gullio on me.sig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:33 pmthis right here is peak town. solid green, ride and die, will sheep for first ten days.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:46 am I think it’s best if mafia role claim, but town doesn’t.
Gun aimed read setup
Marmot claims a watch on dizzy with one visitor
I mean if someone flips Mafia it calls for reevaluation since you didn't know they were Mafia beforehand.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:05 pm But we don't have to reevaluate after the TK
We can build worlds as soon as the red is outed
It's not at all the same as a normal day and idk why you keep insisting it is
It also isn't waiting for the potential of a red check, we already know there is one lol
Marmot said they watched Dizzy last night and 1 person visited him so, at this rate it's academic.