The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:55 am Mac, you don't have to have a thorough, developed explanation for your NAA read. I simply don't get it. That doesn't mean you're wrong or that you're mafia. I see the post below, interpret some measure of confidence from it (by way of the "entire iso" being referenced), and I don't really follow it. If you've nothing to expand on about it then you've nothing to expand on about it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:30 pm correction naa's entire iso is townie

and so is your face

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:32 am the thing is i can’t tell if he’s gimmicking here? his tone is weird but not in an obviously gimmicky way

I don't have the capacity for gimmicks rn. Getting married in a week.

My tone is probably off because I didn't read the first 10 pages and I'm struggling to really read anyone as scum. With the exception of c4, and I don't even get that one.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:53 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:52 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:49 am okay so presuming that alison is mafia and she is in antispew/openwolfing

the fact is that her pushing MR for bad reasons would mean MR is her partner anyway

The "kill MR then kill me if it's wrong" is certainly a way to send her to F3 if that's the case.

I don't really buy that theory, but that might be because MR hasn't pinged me.

MR hasn't really pinged me all that much either frankly I only started suspecting him because I felt compelled to compare his first 10 posts to Axe's and found him worse, with less suspicion being thrown at him at the time.

If we were to go on pings only I would say that the mafia is probably Alison and Axe lol.

wat? you just v read both of them

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:54 am Like as of right now cuz Axe started pinging me like in the last page.

oh

but when did alison ping you?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:21 am In Wilgy's defense, he had 3 votes on him before he had even posted. I don't know if I've ever seen that before. He mentioned he was in a shitty mood not long after entering the game, I dunno if that gamestate contributed.

I'm willing to give him a little grace for that.

No no lol. Games don't affect me like that.

Just a rough day.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:56 am and so is your face

my face is also townie yes

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:56 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:32 am the thing is i can’t tell if he’s gimmicking here? his tone is weird but not in an obviously gimmicky way

I don't have the capacity for gimmicks rn. Getting married in a week.

My tone is probably off because I didn't read the first 10 pages and I'm struggling to really read anyone as scum. With the exception of c4, and I don't even get that one.

Congratulations!!!!!

Also wut!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:51 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:50 am Who are the wolves Mac?

Radishes and Wilgy most likely. C4 can be mafia.

Why am I your perpetual default dad?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:55 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:52 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:50 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:53 pm I am about 70% confident that Radish is mafia and you guys are acting like I'm 95% confident. It's weird.

Where in my posts have I projected confidence? Has my solve even focused untowardly on Radish at all, except as one step in a long sequence?

Please

this is also supremely relateable because it's exactly how you rock apes are treating my read on axe and it's what overbearing towncores do

I'm an ape, and I resent this negative connotation to the term.

Also, I think there's at least 1 mafia on Alison. relatively high confidence.

care to guess whomst? there are only 4 names there.

Top Guess: JJJ

2nd Guess: Dizzy

Somehow I think the other two are more likely to vote Alison D1 as town. And I think JJJ's been scummy in general.

I suppose you could be right about Jay. He probably hasn't been as towny as he'd need to be to be as townread as he has been at least.

Jay gave a list early on that was so outrageous to me (me, Alison, Hally as top scum reads), certainly after Hally more or less left wolf range (I think - Limited/No personal experience dealing with them).

I think Alison has done some towny things... And is over scrutinized compared to her regular game.

I'm town...

So I'm wondering what compelled JJJ to release such a terrible reads list, I assume it's just that he's mafia. I think JJJ voting Alison makes it incredibly likely one of them is wolf, and JJJ has been wolfy.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:56 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:32 am the thing is i can’t tell if he’s gimmicking here? his tone is weird but not in an obviously gimmicky way

I don't have the capacity for gimmicks rn. Getting married in a week.

My tone is probably off because I didn't read the first 10 pages and I'm struggling to really read anyone as scum. With the exception of c4, and I don't even get that one.

wow congrats!

can you articulate your suspicion on c4? have you played with him before?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:59 am Jay gave a list early on that was so outrageous to me (me, Alison, Hally as top scum reads), certainly after Hally more or less left wolf range (I think - Limited/No personal experience dealing with them).

I think Alison has done some towny things... And is over scrutinized compared to her regular game.

I'm town...

So I'm wondering what compelled JJJ to release such a terrible reads list, I assume it's just that he's mafia. I think JJJ voting Alison makes it incredibly likely one of them is wolf, and JJJ has been wolfy.

Nope. You had done nothing, you accept Alison as a suspect, and Hally could be any name to fill out the three. Pretending it was "outrageous" is a caricaturized joke.

I haven't played with c4 before.

And idk. They seem like they are quite alright with many a wagon. They were on MR, Nook and Alison. They are cool with anyone going over and persistently keeps people at 4. I think they are the only one who's been on all 3 potential yeets.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:59 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:55 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:52 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:50 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:53 pm I am about 70% confident that Radish is mafia and you guys are acting like I'm 95% confident. It's weird.

Where in my posts have I projected confidence? Has my solve even focused untowardly on Radish at all, except as one step in a long sequence?

Please

this is also supremely relateable because it's exactly how you rock apes are treating my read on axe and it's what overbearing towncores do

I'm an ape, and I resent this negative connotation to the term.

Also, I think there's at least 1 mafia on Alison. relatively high confidence.

care to guess whomst? there are only 4 names there.

Top Guess: JJJ

2nd Guess: Dizzy

Somehow I think the other two are more likely to vote Alison D1 as town. And I think JJJ's been scummy in general.

I suppose you could be right about Jay. He probably hasn't been as towny as he'd need to be to be as townread as he has been at least.

Jay gave a list early on that was so outrageous to me (me, Alison, Hally as top scum reads), certainly after Hally more or less left wolf range (I think - Limited/No personal experience dealing with them).

I think Alison has done some towny things... And is over scrutinized compared to her regular game.

I'm town...

So I'm wondering what compelled JJJ to release such a terrible reads list, I assume it's just that he's mafia. I think JJJ voting Alison makes it incredibly likely one of them is wolf, and JJJ has been wolfy.

weren’t you suspecting me around that time too?

Then again, that could be completely towny. Thus I described this as tinfoil earlier, but I can't shake it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:01 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:59 am Jay gave a list early on that was so outrageous to me (me, Alison, Hally as top scum reads), certainly after Hally more or less left wolf range (I think - Limited/No personal experience dealing with them).

I think Alison has done some towny things... And is over scrutinized compared to her regular game.

I'm town...

So I'm wondering what compelled JJJ to release such a terrible reads list, I assume it's just that he's mafia. I think JJJ voting Alison makes it incredibly likely one of them is wolf, and JJJ has been wolfy.

Nope. You had done nothing, you accept Alison as a suspect, and Hally could be any name to fill out the three. Pretending it was "outrageous" is a caricaturized joke.

caricaturized joke

Hey, that's what I thought of your reads list, you can't take that from me.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:02 am I haven't played with c4 before.

And idk. They seem like they are quite alright with many a wagon. They were on MR, Nook and Alison. They are cool with anyone going over and persistently keeps people at 4. I think they are the only one who's been on all 3 potential yeets.

That's worth talking about, @c4e5g3d5. I think I like the observation for Wilgy anyway if it's accurate. I don't remember the wagons clearly.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:02 am I haven't played with c4 before.

And idk. They seem like they are quite alright with many a wagon. They were on MR, Nook and Alison. They are cool with anyone going over and persistently keeps people at 4. I think they are the only one who's been on all 3 potential yeets.

c4 never voted alison

he actually was the only one defending her for most pf the day

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:02 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:59 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:55 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:52 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:50 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:48 am

this is also supremely relateable because it's exactly how you rock apes are treating my read on axe and it's what overbearing towncores do

I'm an ape, and I resent this negative connotation to the term.

Also, I think there's at least 1 mafia on Alison. relatively high confidence.

care to guess whomst? there are only 4 names there.

Top Guess: JJJ

2nd Guess: Dizzy

Somehow I think the other two are more likely to vote Alison D1 as town. And I think JJJ's been scummy in general.

I suppose you could be right about Jay. He probably hasn't been as towny as he'd need to be to be as townread as he has been at least.

Jay gave a list early on that was so outrageous to me (me, Alison, Hally as top scum reads), certainly after Hally more or less left wolf range (I think - Limited/No personal experience dealing with them).

I think Alison has done some towny things... And is over scrutinized compared to her regular game.

I'm town...

So I'm wondering what compelled JJJ to release such a terrible reads list, I assume it's just that he's mafia. I think JJJ voting Alison makes it incredibly likely one of them is wolf, and JJJ has been wolfy.

weren’t you suspecting me around that time too?

Yeah, but I dropped it around the time when I asked why you were upset at me for basically reciprocating a "what you just did was scummy".

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:55 pm my suspects among people with posts are:

Alison
Hally
NAA

no particular order. we have a team of two. I already don't especially like a pairing of NAA with Hally or of Alison with Hally.

So an immediate POE emerges: NAA, Alison, Marmot, Wilgy

Ah yes this was a JJJ POE at one point.

What does your POE look like now Jay?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:04 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:55 pm my suspects among people with posts are:

Alison
Hally
NAA

no particular order. we have a team of two. I already don't especially like a pairing of NAA with Hally or of Alison with Hally.

So an immediate POE emerges: NAA, Alison, Marmot, Wilgy

Ah yes this was a JJJ POE at one point.

What does your POE look like now Jay?

Alison, NAA remain. Wilgy and Nanook fill it out. I have toyed with Mac, Dizzy, and MR at various points today too, but if I have to produce four names it's the first four (we get a POE pool of four).

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:56 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:32 am the thing is i can’t tell if he’s gimmicking here? his tone is weird but not in an obviously gimmicky way

I don't have the capacity for gimmicks rn. Getting married in a week.

My tone is probably off because I didn't read the first 10 pages and I'm struggling to really read anyone as scum. With the exception of c4, and I don't even get that one.

Mmmff mmf your vows and tell your wife it's a townie gimmick or gtfo

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:04 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:02 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:59 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:55 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:52 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:50 am

I'm an ape, and I resent this negative connotation to the term.

Also, I think there's at least 1 mafia on Alison. relatively high confidence.

care to guess whomst? there are only 4 names there.

Top Guess: JJJ

2nd Guess: Dizzy

Somehow I think the other two are more likely to vote Alison D1 as town. And I think JJJ's been scummy in general.

I suppose you could be right about Jay. He probably hasn't been as towny as he'd need to be to be as townread as he has been at least.

Jay gave a list early on that was so outrageous to me (me, Alison, Hally as top scum reads), certainly after Hally more or less left wolf range (I think - Limited/No personal experience dealing with them).

I think Alison has done some towny things... And is over scrutinized compared to her regular game.

I'm town...

So I'm wondering what compelled JJJ to release such a terrible reads list, I assume it's just that he's mafia. I think JJJ voting Alison makes it incredibly likely one of them is wolf, and JJJ has been wolfy.

weren’t you suspecting me around that time too?

Yeah, but I dropped it around the time when I asked why you were upset at me for basically reciprocating a "what you just did was scummy".

but that was after jay listed me as a wolf read lol

you were wolf reading me at the same time he was so why is it wolfy when he does it?

I think Mac's irritation about how his NAA read was being treated felt town.

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:09 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:04 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:02 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:59 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:55 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:52 am

care to guess whomst? there are only 4 names there.

Top Guess: JJJ

2nd Guess: Dizzy

Somehow I think the other two are more likely to vote Alison D1 as town. And I think JJJ's been scummy in general.

I suppose you could be right about Jay. He probably hasn't been as towny as he'd need to be to be as townread as he has been at least.

Jay gave a list early on that was so outrageous to me (me, Alison, Hally as top scum reads), certainly after Hally more or less left wolf range (I think - Limited/No personal experience dealing with them).

I think Alison has done some towny things... And is over scrutinized compared to her regular game.

I'm town...

So I'm wondering what compelled JJJ to release such a terrible reads list, I assume it's just that he's mafia. I think JJJ voting Alison makes it incredibly likely one of them is wolf, and JJJ has been wolfy.

weren’t you suspecting me around that time too?

Yeah, but I dropped it around the time when I asked why you were upset at me for basically reciprocating a "what you just did was scummy".

but that was after jay listed me as a wolf read lol

you were wolf reading me at the same time he was so why is it wolfy when he does it?

The timeline isn't relevant. Either the read is correct or incorrect. Reads are formed based on that check.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:11 am I think Mac's irritation about how his NAA read was being treated felt town.

yea that’s why i changed off him just now lol

his energy just now felt better

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:37 pm I jest, but those reads

The timeline is relevant when you treated my reads the same way at the time.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:14 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:37 pm I jest, but those reads

The timeline is relevant when you treated my reads the same way at the time.

Maybe I did... Still minor technicality. I didn't wolf read Hally till Alison did.

Alison is at L-1.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:15 am Alison is at L-1.

How is your resolve?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:15 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:14 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:37 pm I jest, but those reads

The timeline is relevant when you treated my reads the same way at the time.

Maybe I did... Still minor technicality. I didn't wolf read Hally till Alison did.

Yeah I don't think so. Your read on me is fake.

Feeling good about this one?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:13 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:09 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:04 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:02 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:59 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:55 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:53 am

Top Guess: JJJ

2nd Guess: Dizzy

Somehow I think the other two are more likely to vote Alison D1 as town. And I think JJJ's been scummy in general.

I suppose you could be right about Jay. He probably hasn't been as towny as he'd need to be to be as townread as he has been at least.

Jay gave a list early on that was so outrageous to me (me, Alison, Hally as top scum reads), certainly after Hally more or less left wolf range (I think - Limited/No personal experience dealing with them).

I think Alison has done some towny things... And is over scrutinized compared to her regular game.

I'm town...

So I'm wondering what compelled JJJ to release such a terrible reads list, I assume it's just that he's mafia. I think JJJ voting Alison makes it incredibly likely one of them is wolf, and JJJ has been wolfy.

weren’t you suspecting me around that time too?

Yeah, but I dropped it around the time when I asked why you were upset at me for basically reciprocating a "what you just did was scummy".

but that was after jay listed me as a wolf read lol

you were wolf reading me at the same time he was so why is it wolfy when he does it?

The timeline isn't relevant. Either the read is correct or incorrect. Reads are formed based on that check.

of course it’s relevant

if jay wolf read me when i was wolfy to you and now v reads me when you think i'm villagery you should have no issue with his read

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:15 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:15 am Alison is at L-1.

How is your resolve?

Decent, not amazing. I don't feel like moving my vote. If someone hammers then someone hammers.

Keep in mind folks that hammers are effectively pointless if the host is not present.

someone unvote alison please

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:16 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:13 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:09 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:04 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:02 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:59 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:55 am

I suppose you could be right about Jay. He probably hasn't been as towny as he'd need to be to be as townread as he has been at least.

Jay gave a list early on that was so outrageous to me (me, Alison, Hally as top scum reads), certainly after Hally more or less left wolf range (I think - Limited/No personal experience dealing with them).

I think Alison has done some towny things... And is over scrutinized compared to her regular game.

I'm town...

So I'm wondering what compelled JJJ to release such a terrible reads list, I assume it's just that he's mafia. I think JJJ voting Alison makes it incredibly likely one of them is wolf, and JJJ has been wolfy.

weren’t you suspecting me around that time too?

Yeah, but I dropped it around the time when I asked why you were upset at me for basically reciprocating a "what you just did was scummy".

but that was after jay listed me as a wolf read lol

you were wolf reading me at the same time he was so why is it wolfy when he does it?

The timeline isn't relevant. Either the read is correct or incorrect. Reads are formed based on that check.

of course it’s relevant

if jay wolf read me when i was wolfy to you and now v reads me when you think i'm villagery you should have no issue with his read

This assumes I think my ape brain has the same capacity to read you as JJJ.

I'm going to bed with Alison at L-1

did alison just get hammered??

I will forever town read anyone that hammers Alison

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:04 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:02 am I haven't played with c4 before.

And idk. They seem like they are quite alright with many a wagon. They were on MR, Nook and Alison. They are cool with anyone going over and persistently keeps people at 4. I think they are the only one who's been on all 3 potential yeets.

c4 never voted alison

he actually was the only one defending her for most pf the day

Holy shit.

My b. I feel like I jumped timelines as I swore I saw c4's name there.

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:17 am did alison just get hammered??

Yes, gonna scumread me for it?

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:16 am someone unvote alison please

If you wish.

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

Alison is my preferred chop.

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:17 am did alison just get hammered??

No we need 6 for maj

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:15 am Alison is at L-1.

why didn’t you unvote her then? wtf

There was no hammer. I don't want the wrong person (i.e. Scotty) getting confused.

Nice bail out @JaggedJimmyJay

Why are you acting like a hammer is bad lol

I knew JJJ wouldn't have the resolve to go through with an Alison kill here tbh.