The Syndicate

Pandora wrote:

Apollo wrote:

Pandora wrote: I am not sure how you can have any suspicions of me yet.

Actually, I find that sentence itself pretty suspicious.

Everyone just wants someone to point a finger at.

That sentence is pretty suspect tbh. That seems like more of a slip than anything else I've seen in this game. It sounds like you threw that "yet" in there by accident. It could be seen as you saying, "I am bad, but I haven't done anything shady for you to call me out on as of yet."

Pandora wrote:

Apollo wrote:

Pandora wrote: I am not sure how you can have any suspicions of me yet.

Actually, I find that sentence itself pretty suspicious.

Everyone just wants someone to point a finger at.

I have plenty of people to point fingers at (Phoenix, Athena, Aphrodite). I don't need to manufacture new ones. I was just calling that remark like I saw it.

I'm thinking about a herc vote today, unless I see a compelling case for someone else,or a great reason to believe he is civvie. Something about how he voted Perse and gave not much of a reason, then complained about getting votes for being absent, and then went absent again, is giving me the willies.

Phoenix wrote:

Pandora wrote:

Apollo wrote:

Pandora wrote: I am not sure how you can have any suspicions of me yet.

Actually, I find that sentence itself pretty suspicious.

Everyone just wants someone to point a finger at.

That sentence is pretty suspect tbh. That seems like more of a slip than anything else I've seen in this game. It sounds like you threw that "yet" in there by accident. It could be seen as you saying, "I am bad, but I haven't done anything shady for you to call me out on as of yet."

This is a pretty interesting analysis of that post... I think it could be right...

Apollo wrote:

Pandora wrote:

Apollo wrote:

Pandora wrote: I am not sure how you can have any suspicions of me yet.

Actually, I find that sentence itself pretty suspicious.

Everyone just wants someone to point a finger at.

I have plenty of people to point fingers at (Phoenix, Athena, Aphrodite). I don't need to manufacture new ones. I was just calling that remark like I saw it.

Apollo, can you quickly go over the case you have against Pheonix? I am a bit confused on it, partially because I can't remember a lot of it. Sorry!

Chronos wrote: Apollo, can you quickly go over the case you have against Pheonix? I am a bit confused on it, partially because I can't remember a lot of it. Sorry!

Happy to! I had Phoenix pegged as a potential Hinzelmann because he voted Day 1, which Hinzelmann must have, and he has missed several votes since then, and I believe Hinzelmann must be fairly inactive based on his lack of kills. The only other player that fits the profile better is Poseidon, and I'm choosing to trust Eros on him for the time being, because I can't see why anyone would want to defend Hinzelmann.

Apollo wrote:

Chronos wrote: Apollo, can you quickly go over the case you have against Pheonix? I am a bit confused on it, partially because I can't remember a lot of it. Sorry!

Happy to! I had Phoenix pegged as a potential Hinzelmann because he voted Day 1, which Hinzelmann must have, and he has missed several votes since then, and I believe Hinzelmann must be fairly inactive based on his lack of kills. The only other player that fits the profile better is Poseidon, and I'm choosing to trust Eros on him for the time being, because I can't see why anyone would want to defend Hinzelmann.

Thank you Apollo, this made my life a bit easier.

With that I'll either be voting Phoenix or Pandora.
I've still got my eye on Athena and Zeus... and Aphrodite, but she's insanified today, correct?

Chronos wrote: With that I'll either be voting Phoenix or Pandora.
I've still got my eye on Athena and Zeus... and Aphrodite, but she's insanified today, correct?

Correct. I had it down to Phoenix and Athena, but Pandora's latest exchange has put her into the mix as well, so it will be one of those three. I'll have to decide in the next three hours or so.

And I've got my eye on Chronos.

And Pluto.

And Hercules

Apollo wrote:

Chronos wrote: With that I'll either be voting Phoenix or Pandora.
I've still got my eye on Athena and Zeus... and Aphrodite, but she's insanified today, correct?

Correct. I had it down to Phoenix and Athena, but Pandora's latest exchange has put her into the mix as well, so it will be one of those three. I'll have to decide in the next three hours or so.

Athena is not bad.

Chronos wrote: With that I'll either be voting Phoenix or Pandora.

ORLY

S~V~S wrote:Pandora has been reborn~ she is off the poll, and will not be killable this night.

Oh, duh. I totally forgot about that.

Zeus wrote:

Apollo wrote:

Chronos wrote: With that I'll either be voting Phoenix or Pandora.
I've still got my eye on Athena and Zeus... and Aphrodite, but she's insanified today, correct?

Correct. I had it down to Phoenix and Athena, but Pandora's latest exchange has put her into the mix as well, so it will be one of those three. I'll have to decide in the next three hours or so.

Athena is not bad.

You seem to know some stuff. Care to share?

Zeus wrote:And I've got my eye on Chronos.

And Pluto.

And Hercules

Care to elaborate? Or are you just saying that you have your eye on me because I have my eye on you? I simply found your suggested lynch plan a bit strange.

Zeus wrote:

Apollo wrote:

Chronos wrote: With that I'll either be voting Phoenix or Pandora.
I've still got my eye on Athena and Zeus... and Aphrodite, but she's insanified today, correct?

Correct. I had it down to Phoenix and Athena, but Pandora's latest exchange has put her into the mix as well, so it will be one of those three. I'll have to decide in the next three hours or so.

Athena is not bad.

Care to elaborate?

Eros wrote:

Chronos wrote: With that I'll either be voting Phoenix or Pandora.

ORLY

S~V~S wrote:Pandora has been reborn~ she is off the poll, and will not be killable this night.

I want to hear Zeus' response and then I will vote. Make it good, Zeus!

Why strange Chronos? Strange to avoid any more night kills? What is strange is that you think me bad for even suggesting it. Which is why I have my eye on you.

Phoenix wrote:

Pandora wrote:

Apollo wrote:

Pandora wrote: I am not sure how you can have any suspicions of me yet.

Actually, I find that sentence itself pretty suspicious.

Everyone just wants someone to point a finger at.

That sentence is pretty suspect tbh. That seems like more of a slip than anything else I've seen in this game. It sounds like you threw that "yet" in there by accident. It could be seen as you saying, "I am bad, but I haven't done anything shady for you to call me out on as of yet."

The "yet" was intentional but I did not mean it how you interpreted it. I meant...
The old Pandora said basically nothing. I am the new Pandora and haven't even been here a full day. Day one lynch, many people talk about how there is not much to go on yet and some people end up randomizing their vote because of it. Well, this is my Day 1. When looking at Pandora, no one should have anything to go on yet. Again, yet, b/c this is like my Day 1. I'm sure that is why I am not even allowed to be voted for.

Ceres wrote:

Zeus wrote:

Apollo wrote:

Chronos wrote: With that I'll either be voting Phoenix or Pandora.
I've still got my eye on Athena and Zeus... and Aphrodite, but she's insanified today, correct?

Correct. I had it down to Phoenix and Athena, but Pandora's latest exchange has put her into the mix as well, so it will be one of those three. I'll have to decide in the next three hours or so.

Athena is not bad.

You seem to know some stuff. Care to share?

I cannot.

Right, so Zeus has given us nothing but his word to go on. My instinct is that he is a liar, one who saw the attention Eros was getting and wanted a piece of the action. Combined with my earlier suspicions, I think I will cast my vote for Athena today. I call your bluff, Zeus!

Apollo wrote:Right, so Zeus has given us nothing but his word to go on. My instinct is that he is a liar, one who saw the attention Eros was getting and wanted a piece of the action. Combined with my earlier suspicions, I think I will cast my vote for Athena today. I call your bluff, Zeus!

IF you are civ you will be sorry.

What am I talking about. You are bad aren't you Sun god.

Zeus wrote:What am I talking about. You are bad aren't you Sun god.

I'm not, but I think you might be.

Apollo wrote:

Zeus wrote:What am I talking about. You are bad aren't you Sun god.

I'm not, but I think you might be.

Ditto

So, Hercules was discussed a bit yesterday, took a few votes, but now he's ok?

Medusa wrote:So, Hercules was discussed a bit yesterday, took a few votes, but now he's ok?

Nope. I may vote him again.

I just did. There's still time for him to say something that might change my thinking. Otherwise, I'll stick with a herc vote.

Medusa wrote:I just did. There's still time for him to say something that might change my thinking. Otherwise, I'll stick with a herc vote.

Yeah. I'll probably vote Herc but I want to see some more votes come in first.

Apollo wrote:Right, so Zeus has given us nothing but his word to go on. My instinct is that he is a liar, one who saw the attention Eros was getting and wanted a piece of the action. Combined with my earlier suspicions, I think I will cast my vote for Athena today. I call your bluff, Zeus!

He is not lying. He has good reason to defend me.

I have answered anything brought up about me. And I'll say again, there really isn't a case against me as far as I've seen in the thread. There is evidence I'm not Hinzelman. That is true--I'm also not any other baddie. I survived a night kill--yes I did and yes I know how, and no I won't tell you. I've suspected and voted for other civvies--that is true. I was wrong about people (assuming their roles as revealed are accurate). I'm loud and stubborn about my suspicions--yes, yes I am.

Am I missing anything? Because all of that just describes the way I play the game.

I could be off the mark about Hercules. But I'm viewing it like this: he's been mostly absent. Then a quick insanified vote for Perse. Then says it was because of Eros, and yet, Eros votes him the next day.

Complains about taking votes for being quiet, but remains quiet. So, comparing Perse and herc, she's outspoken and mostly speaking up for fairness. He's quiet.
Outspoken vs quiet. Outspoken was nkd, quiet is still here, being quiet.

Medusa wrote:I could be off the mark about Hercules. But I'm viewing it like this: he's been mostly absent. Then a quick insanified vote for Perse. Then says it was because of Eros, and yet, Eros votes him the next day.

Complains about taking votes for being quiet, but remains quiet. So, comparing Perse and herc, she's outspoken and mostly speaking up for fairness. He's quiet.
Outspoken vs quiet. Outspoken was nkd, quiet is still here, being quiet.

For me it's what i said last time. Just a vibe...a feeling..whatever. Nothing solid. His tone maybe.

Athena wrote:

Apollo wrote:Right, so Zeus has given us nothing but his word to go on. My instinct is that he is a liar, one who saw the attention Eros was getting and wanted a piece of the action. Combined with my earlier suspicions, I think I will cast my vote for Athena today. I call your bluff, Zeus!

He is not lying. He has good reason to defend me.

I have answered anything brought up about me. And I'll say again, there really isn't a case against me as far as I've seen in the thread. There is evidence I'm not Hinzelman. That is true--I'm also not any other baddie. I survived a night kill--yes I did and yes I know how, and no I won't tell you. I've suspected and voted for other civvies--that is true. I was wrong about people (assuming their roles as revealed are accurate). I'm loud and stubborn about my suspicions--yes, yes I am.

Am I missing anything? Because all of that just describes the way I play the game.

Athena, who are you thinking of voting for?

Athena wrote:

Apollo wrote:Right, so Zeus has given us nothing but his word to go on. My instinct is that he is a liar, one who saw the attention Eros was getting and wanted a piece of the action. Combined with my earlier suspicions, I think I will cast my vote for Athena today. I call your bluff, Zeus!

He is not lying. He has good reason to defend me.

I have answered anything brought up about me. And I'll say again, there really isn't a case against me as far as I've seen in the thread. There is evidence I'm not Hinzelman. That is true--I'm also not any other baddie. I survived a night kill--yes I did and yes I know how, and no I won't tell you. I've suspected and voted for other civvies--that is true. I was wrong about people (assuming their roles as revealed are accurate). I'm loud and stubborn about my suspicions--yes, yes I am.

Am I missing anything? Because all of that just describes the way I play the game.

I'm starting to believe you, which makes me even more confused. I won't let my guard down though.

1. Why is no one looking at Poseidon?
2. Thanks for the reply Zeus. "I cannot." More confusion.
3. I don't like the no you exchange between Zeus and Apollo.
4. The Phoenix theory seems plausible, but in this game so does everything else.
5. Now you guys are making me think about Herc. And I'm not talking about his abs either.

Ceres wrote:

Athena wrote:

Apollo wrote:Right, so Zeus has given us nothing but his word to go on. My instinct is that he is a liar, one who saw the attention Eros was getting and wanted a piece of the action. Combined with my earlier suspicions, I think I will cast my vote for Athena today. I call your bluff, Zeus!

He is not lying. He has good reason to defend me.

I have answered anything brought up about me. And I'll say again, there really isn't a case against me as far as I've seen in the thread. There is evidence I'm not Hinzelman. That is true--I'm also not any other baddie. I survived a night kill--yes I did and yes I know how, and no I won't tell you. I've suspected and voted for other civvies--that is true. I was wrong about people (assuming their roles as revealed are accurate). I'm loud and stubborn about my suspicions--yes, yes I am.

Am I missing anything? Because all of that just describes the way I play the game.

I'm starting to believe you, which makes me even more confused. I won't let my guard down though.

1. Why is no one looking at Poseidon?
2. Thanks for the reply Zeus. "I cannot." More confusion.
3. I don't like the no you exchange between Zeus and Apollo.
4. The Phoenix theory seems plausible, but in this game so does everything else.
5. Now you guys are making me think about Herc. And I'm not talking about his abs either.

I say I cannot because that is it. I am asking everyone to trust me. It's a big ask I know.

Ceres wrote:1. Why is no one looking at Poseidon?

Because I asked that people kindly not do that.

Ceres wrote:2. Thanks for the reply Zeus. "I cannot." More confusion.

If Zeus somehow checked Athena, then there's no way Athena could know that Zeus would have a good reason. With one obvious (highly unlikely) exception, I don't see how they would both know the deal.

For those interested, the pair slightly butted heads over trusting me, and then there was this short exchange: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 480#p39480

Ceres wrote:3. I don't like the no you exchange between Zeus and Apollo.

I'm rather enjoying it, actually.

Ceres wrote:4. The Phoenix theory seems plausible, but in this game so does everything else.

Plausible, possible, but improbable.

Ceres wrote:5. Now you guys are making me think about Herc. And I'm not talking about his abs either.

I can take care of that for ya, if you like.

Be my guest.

I don't see that there's anything damning about Athena, and actually I thought her defence sounded fairly genuine. But I'm geting progressively more leery of Zeus. His defence of Athena could be genuine, because they're teammates, or because he's trying to establish civvie cred if she gets lynched. I think if Athena is bad, it's as part of a team with Zeus anyway, so I'd rather go for the one who strikes me as more baddie to begin with. *votes Zeus*

P.S. I don't see Herc's behavior as terribly suspicious, and I actually think it's a bit odd that people keep bringing him up each day.

Mars wrote:I don't see that there's anything damning about Athena, and actually I thought her defence sounded fairly genuine. But I'm geting progressively more leery of Zeus. His defence of Athena could be genuine, because they're teammates, or because he's trying to establish civvie cred if she gets lynched. I think if Athena is bad, it's as part of a team with Zeus anyway, so I'd rather go for the one who strikes me as more baddie to begin with. *votes Zeus*

P.S. I don't see Herc's behavior as terribly suspicious, and I actually think it's a bit odd that people keep bringing him up each day.

Woah, soldier.

Athena wrote:

Apollo wrote:Right, so Zeus has given us nothing but his word to go on. My instinct is that he is a liar, one who saw the attention Eros was getting and wanted a piece of the action. Combined with my earlier suspicions, I think I will cast my vote for Athena today. I call your bluff, Zeus!

He is not lying. He has good reason to defend me.

I have answered anything brought up about me. And I'll say again, there really isn't a case against me as far as I've seen in the thread. There is evidence I'm not Hinzelman. That is true--I'm also not any other baddie. I survived a night kill--yes I did and yes I know how, and no I won't tell you. I've suspected and voted for other civvies--that is true. I was wrong about people (assuming their roles as revealed are accurate). I'm loud and stubborn about my suspicions--yes, yes I am.

Am I missing anything? Because all of that just describes the way I play the game.

"He has good reason to defend me."

That means both parties believe each other good, and understand why.

So Zeus (as evil) trying to gain credibility by defending Athena (as good) isn't what is happening here. Their lot is one.

Zeus wrote:Why strange Chronos? Strange to avoid any more night kills? What is strange is that you think me bad for even suggesting it. Which is why I have my eye on you.

I said I have my eye on you. You are mischaracterizing me. I think your strategy was very strange because you failed to see that baddies could just say they decline to use their powers. I understand that it would stop NKs, but I think our hosts would not react kindly to us disarming their baddies.

I thought your suggestion was strange, and you are now on my RADAR for it. That is all. Your no-u to both me and Apollo has been entertaining, to say the least.

Medusa wrote:I could be off the mark about Hercules. But I'm viewing it like this: he's been mostly absent. Then a quick insanified vote for Perse. Then says it was because of Eros, and yet, Eros votes him the next day.

Complains about taking votes for being quiet, but remains quiet. So, comparing Perse and herc, she's outspoken and mostly speaking up for fairness. He's quiet.
Outspoken vs quiet. Outspoken was nkd, quiet is still here, being quiet.

That is very strange indeed.

*votes Pheonix*

Apollo wrote:

Chronos wrote: Apollo, can you quickly go over the case you have against Pheonix? I am a bit confused on it, partially because I can't remember a lot of it. Sorry!

Happy to! I had Phoenix pegged as a potential Hinzelmann because he voted Day 1, which Hinzelmann must have, and he has missed several votes since then, and I believe Hinzelmann must be fairly inactive based on his lack of kills. The only other player that fits the profile better is Poseidon, and I'm choosing to trust Eros on him for the time being, because I can't see why anyone would want to defend Hinzelmann.

2 equates to several?

Phoenix wrote:

Apollo wrote:

Chronos wrote: Apollo, can you quickly go over the case you have against Pheonix? I am a bit confused on it, partially because I can't remember a lot of it. Sorry!

Happy to! I had Phoenix pegged as a potential Hinzelmann because he voted Day 1, which Hinzelmann must have, and he has missed several votes since then, and I believe Hinzelmann must be fairly inactive based on his lack of kills. The only other player that fits the profile better is Poseidon, and I'm choosing to trust Eros on him for the time being, because I can't see why anyone would want to defend Hinzelmann.

2 equates to several?

Yep.

I guess 2/4 could be described as several. Regardless, I am not Hinzelmann. If I was I sure wouldn't be bringing focus to the fact that I did indeed miss votes by talking about it. Which nights did Hinzelmann fail to kill? I still think at least one of the non-NKs was done on purpose.

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why does pandora Olhado a fucking break but i cant Canucklehead catch a locating? what up with dat?

voting AaronLittleton because of reasons goodmannered stated

Hercules = AaronLittleton

Aphrodite wrote: honeytongued bad hustlerd

I don't know who this refers to, but I kind of hope it's me.

Apollo wrote:

Aphrodite wrote: honeytongued bad hustlerd

I don't know who this refers to, but I kind of hope it's me.

I am sure it is as the word bad is used

Apollo wrote:

Aphrodite wrote: honeytongued bad hustlerd

I don't know who this refers to, but I kind of hope it's me.

You sure?

Aphrodite wrote:though he honeytongued bad hustler now discontentment

Zeus wrote:

Athena wrote:

Apollo wrote:Right, so Zeus has given us nothing but his word to go on. My instinct is that he is a liar, one who saw the attention Eros was getting and wanted a piece of the action. Combined with my earlier suspicions, I think I will cast my vote for Athena today. I call your bluff, Zeus!

He is not lying. He has good reason to defend me.

I have answered anything brought up about me. And I'll say again, there really isn't a case against me as far as I've seen in the thread. There is evidence I'm not Hinzelman. That is true--I'm also not any other baddie. I survived a night kill--yes I did and yes I know how, and no I won't tell you. I've suspected and voted for other civvies--that is true. I was wrong about people (assuming their roles as revealed are accurate). I'm loud and stubborn about my suspicions--yes, yes I am.

Am I missing anything? Because all of that just describes the way I play the game.

Athena, who are you thinking of voting for?

At this point, probably Hercules, unless the voting pattern shifts in the next little while. Mainly because I don't think you should be lynched. And also because I think the points about his absence point to the strong possibility that he's bad.

Eros wrote:Hercules = AaronLittleton

That is multiple levels of humorous.

juliets wrote:Less than an hour left to vote everyone!

Oh no!

Wait, it's fine. I already voted. Phew.

Apollo wrote:Wait, it's fine. I already voted. Phew.

Yeah, me too.