Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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I… don’t.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:59 am i figure you know that but wanted to say it anyways just to boost the fact that people know that I can see things
She (Daisy) was around or so I thought, just lurking more. This was in line with how she played Baby Muppet where we were both mafia together. So I was thinking that was her approach here. Given that she was mod killed and flipped town it's now pretty clear she ended up not having the time to play.leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:13 am While Epi is working on his analyses of the player interactions, I'll start to work on mine so that they won't be biased by his. Not gonna look at N0, since it's a bunch of crap and pyxxy did jack there anyways.
Not a mention of pyxxy but the Daisy stuff looks odd in hindsight. What "playstyle" was she demonstrating by just posting one NGR post saying she's busy and then dipping?sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:20 pm I’ll add to the scrappy doo stuff some more.
As already said they were a sock third party. The owner lucy had some goal that I can’t remember now, but it did have voting power and could be killed.
Also falcon was on my team that game not TSP.
I like LC train of thought on the secret Santa thing, that seems very much within his town meta.
Epi is a gut town read.
I’m liking Abigail posts even though she’s creating a town core
I’m eyeing Daisy right now, her play style right now reminds me of muppets, where she was present but a bit flatflooted being mafia.
No mentions of pyxxy until this last-minute vote. Like I said before, this looks like so obviously a bus that I doubt a player who's been around as long as Sig would actually go for it. Saying his townreads are on pyxxy does seem like a way to pass the buck, so I guess that's one small point against them being aligned, but it's still such a convenient excuse that I can't rule them out being wolf overall.
Who knows for your second question, but randomly mentioning someone, who you can't/won't name suspects me in another thread is just bad form and not something I could even discuss. So it only serves to throw our thread off track and distract from the pyxxy flip. This might not have been done maliciously, but the end result is still derailment.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:59 pmWhy would news of a wolf flip derail our momentum?
Are you trying to say I'm lying? If so, what do you think of my alignment?
Caitlin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:52 pmYou're making towncores and being rlly defensive of your TRs☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:52 pmI'm a town read now? What changed?
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:33 pm ugh I think this kinda means sig is a wolf (not related to infodumping) but he said not to kill me so I want to move off of him
I mean, I can't say for sure who it is, but I have a good guess.sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:51 pmWho knows for your second question, but randomly mentioning someone, who you can't/won't name suspects me in another thread is just bad form and not something I could even discuss. So it only serves to throw our thread off track and distract from the pyxxy flip. This might not have been done maliciously, but the end result is still derailment.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:59 pmWhy would news of a wolf flip derail our momentum?
Are you trying to say I'm lying? If so, what do you think of my alignment?
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:56 pmI mean, I can't say for sure who it is, but I have a good guess.sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:51 pmWho knows for your second question, but randomly mentioning someone, who you can't/won't name suspects me in another thread is just bad form and not something I could even discuss. So it only serves to throw our thread off track and distract from the pyxxy flip. This might not have been done maliciously, but the end result is still derailment.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:59 pmWhy would news of a wolf flip derail our momentum?
Are you trying to say I'm lying? If so, what do you think of my alignment?
Nothing is distracting from anything. I wanted to mention it to see how you and others react. I think you've reacted poorly. That's how the game is played.
I asked the hosts what I can talk about, and from my understanding, I can talk about messages I got, as long as it is clear that this is information from another player, not any sort of host-verified information.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:19 pmSeanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:56 pmI mean, I can't say for sure who it is, but I have a good guess.sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:51 pmWho knows for your second question, but randomly mentioning someone, who you can't/won't name suspects me in another thread is just bad form and not something I could even discuss. So it only serves to throw our thread off track and distract from the pyxxy flip. This might not have been done maliciously, but the end result is still derailment.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:59 pmWhy would news of a wolf flip derail our momentum?
Are you trying to say I'm lying? If so, what do you think of my alignment?
Nothing is distracting from anything. I wanted to mention it to see how you and others react. I think you've reacted poorly. That's how the game is played.
ok look stop talking about it or you will probably get killed or else this is running at a level above my comprehension in which case pretend i never said anything
For the record, it looks like Daisy was shot, not modkilled. Possibly a lurker vig.sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:49 pmShe (Daisy) was around or so I thought, just lurking more. This was in line with how she played Baby Muppet where we were both mafia together. So I was thinking that was her approach here. Given that she was mod killed and flipped town it's now pretty clear she ended up not having the time to play.leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:13 am While Epi is working on his analyses of the player interactions, I'll start to work on mine so that they won't be biased by his. Not gonna look at N0, since it's a bunch of crap and pyxxy did jack there anyways.
Not a mention of pyxxy but the Daisy stuff looks odd in hindsight. What "playstyle" was she demonstrating by just posting one NGR post saying she's busy and then dipping?sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:20 pm I’ll add to the scrappy doo stuff some more.
As already said they were a sock third party. The owner lucy had some goal that I can’t remember now, but it did have voting power and could be killed.
Also falcon was on my team that game not TSP.
I like LC train of thought on the secret Santa thing, that seems very much within his town meta.
Epi is a gut town read.
I’m liking Abigail posts even though she’s creating a town core
I’m eyeing Daisy right now, her play style right now reminds me of muppets, where she was present but a bit flatflooted being mafia.
No mentions of pyxxy until this last-minute vote. Like I said before, this looks like so obviously a bus that I doubt a player who's been around as long as Sig would actually go for it. Saying his townreads are on pyxxy does seem like a way to pass the buck, so I guess that's one small point against them being aligned, but it's still such a convenient excuse that I can't rule them out being wolf overall.
Yea Pyxxy wasn't really on my radar, but I didn't want to not vote so i joined the wagon
Having said that I did think I had more time to review, buuuuut, I probably wasn't going to hard push anyone. I don't have any really solid mafia reads or really even that many lock towns so I'm taking a more back seat approach for the time being.
Probably because Sig arrived so late that they couldn't have really made any other argument look natural, compared to Sloonei who could have developed an argument but didn't. Something not being effective at getting towncred doesn't mean the move wasn't made for those purposes.Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:46 amWhy would someone give "sheeping others" as a reason for a bus? IME bussing is usually to get towncred, and this doesn't really give any towncred. It is possible landlord!Sig is trying to blend in by voting here, but I'd be loathe to call that a bus in all but the most technical of senses.leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:13 am While Epi is working on his analyses of the player interactions, I'll start to work on mine so that they won't be biased by his. Not gonna look at N0, since it's a bunch of crap and pyxxy did jack there anyways.
Not a mention of pyxxy but the Daisy stuff looks odd in hindsight. What "playstyle" was she demonstrating by just posting one NGR post saying she's busy and then dipping?sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:20 pm I’ll add to the scrappy doo stuff some more.
As already said they were a sock third party. The owner lucy had some goal that I can’t remember now, but it did have voting power and could be killed.
Also falcon was on my team that game not TSP.
I like LC train of thought on the secret Santa thing, that seems very much within his town meta.
Epi is a gut town read.
I’m liking Abigail posts even though she’s creating a town core
I’m eyeing Daisy right now, her play style right now reminds me of muppets, where she was present but a bit flatflooted being mafia.
No mentions of pyxxy until this last-minute vote. Like I said before, this looks like so obviously a bus that I doubt a player who's been around as long as Sig would actually go for it. Saying his townreads are on pyxxy does seem like a way to pass the buck, so I guess that's one small point against them being aligned, but it's still such a convenient excuse that I can't rule them out being wolf overall.
Is that an assumption based on flavor/timing or something else?Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:37 pmFor the record, it looks like Daisy was shot, not modkilled. Possibly a lurker vig.sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:49 pmShe (Daisy) was around or so I thought, just lurking more. This was in line with how she played Baby Muppet where we were both mafia together. So I was thinking that was her approach here. Given that she was mod killed and flipped town it's now pretty clear she ended up not having the time to play.leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:13 am While Epi is working on his analyses of the player interactions, I'll start to work on mine so that they won't be biased by his. Not gonna look at N0, since it's a bunch of crap and pyxxy did jack there anyways.
Not a mention of pyxxy but the Daisy stuff looks odd in hindsight. What "playstyle" was she demonstrating by just posting one NGR post saying she's busy and then dipping?sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:20 pm I’ll add to the scrappy doo stuff some more.
As already said they were a sock third party. The owner lucy had some goal that I can’t remember now, but it did have voting power and could be killed.
Also falcon was on my team that game not TSP.
I like LC train of thought on the secret Santa thing, that seems very much within his town meta.
Epi is a gut town read.
I’m liking Abigail posts even though she’s creating a town core
I’m eyeing Daisy right now, her play style right now reminds me of muppets, where she was present but a bit flatflooted being mafia.
No mentions of pyxxy until this last-minute vote. Like I said before, this looks like so obviously a bus that I doubt a player who's been around as long as Sig would actually go for it. Saying his townreads are on pyxxy does seem like a way to pass the buck, so I guess that's one small point against them being aligned, but it's still such a convenient excuse that I can't rule them out being wolf overall.
Yea Pyxxy wasn't really on my radar, but I didn't want to not vote so i joined the wagon
Having said that I did think I had more time to review, buuuuut, I probably wasn't going to hard push anyone. I don't have any really solid mafia reads or really even that many lock towns so I'm taking a more back seat approach for the time being.
But as I said before, this would be a real noob move, so take of that what you willleetic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:36 pmProbably because Sig arrived so late that they couldn't have really made any other argument look natural, compared to Sloonei who could have developed an argument but didn't. Something not being effective at getting towncred doesn't mean the move wasn't made for those purposes.Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:46 amWhy would someone give "sheeping others" as a reason for a bus? IME bussing is usually to get towncred, and this doesn't really give any towncred. It is possible landlord!Sig is trying to blend in by voting here, but I'd be loathe to call that a bus in all but the most technical of senses.leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:13 am While Epi is working on his analyses of the player interactions, I'll start to work on mine so that they won't be biased by his. Not gonna look at N0, since it's a bunch of crap and pyxxy did jack there anyways.
Not a mention of pyxxy but the Daisy stuff looks odd in hindsight. What "playstyle" was she demonstrating by just posting one NGR post saying she's busy and then dipping?sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:20 pm I’ll add to the scrappy doo stuff some more.
As already said they were a sock third party. The owner lucy had some goal that I can’t remember now, but it did have voting power and could be killed.
Also falcon was on my team that game not TSP.
I like LC train of thought on the secret Santa thing, that seems very much within his town meta.
Epi is a gut town read.
I’m liking Abigail posts even though she’s creating a town core
I’m eyeing Daisy right now, her play style right now reminds me of muppets, where she was present but a bit flatflooted being mafia.
No mentions of pyxxy until this last-minute vote. Like I said before, this looks like so obviously a bus that I doubt a player who's been around as long as Sig would actually go for it. Saying his townreads are on pyxxy does seem like a way to pass the buck, so I guess that's one small point against them being aligned, but it's still such a convenient excuse that I can't rule them out being wolf overall.
Why did you not have much comment on the growing pyxxy wagon at EoD?Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:37 pm hihi o/ here sorry
@Epignosis the reason I focused pyxxy there is because both games we've been in so far, and now this one, we've been v/w but have hoped for a v/v rand. I joined the mountainous game to play w/ pyxxy again & similar here where my main thought there was "oh if pyxxy is v id like to be some sort of lifeline here"
maybe a little selfish but I was more focused on my own for a second lolleetic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:39 pmWhy did you not have much comment on the growing pyxxy wagon at EoD?Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:37 pm hihi o/ here sorry
@Epignosis the reason I focused pyxxy there is because both games we've been in so far, and now this one, we've been v/w but have hoped for a v/v rand. I joined the mountainous game to play w/ pyxxy again & similar here where my main thought there was "oh if pyxxy is v id like to be some sort of lifeline here"
What do you think about your wagon in light of the flip?Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:41 pmmaybe a little selfish but I was more focused on my own for a second lolleetic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:39 pmWhy did you not have much comment on the growing pyxxy wagon at EoD?Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:37 pm hihi o/ here sorry
@Epignosis the reason I focused pyxxy there is because both games we've been in so far, and now this one, we've been v/w but have hoped for a v/v rand. I joined the mountainous game to play w/ pyxxy again & similar here where my main thought there was "oh if pyxxy is v id like to be some sort of lifeline here"
was more trying to work out what was happening with the vote on me to really focus on the fact that pyxxy's wagon grew so much outside of 'hes dead, i dont really want to move there because i feel bad that hes so low energy and dont really want to kick him while hes down' ;O;
Tbqh I do day 1 Cait a lot but I never n1 her here cause I really wanted to play a mafia game with her its been a whilesig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:10 pm I did a quick NKA of Cait
The main things that stood out where her scum reads of Leetic, Sloonie, and Falcon.
Based off this alone and D2 here's my theory.
Leetic is mafia, but they're on the other team, which is also why they're trying to tamper down the idea of 2 teams since it keeps them open as mafia vs locked town. The flip + Cait's pushing could be enough to trigger a NK. This is possible, but not enough to vote off alone.
Sloonie: It's worth watching him especially given how skilled as scum Sloonie can be. I don't recall enough of his standard meta though to say whether or not he's the type to NK someone who's sus of him?
Falcon: This was probably her heaviest push and I know from Falcon's mafia meta he'd be down to kill someone who's going after him.
Bonnnnnnus tin foil theory
Caitlin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:52 pmYou're making towncores and being rlly defensive of your TRs☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:52 pmI'm a town read now? What changed?
Abi is actually mafia, got Cait to Town read her, then killed her. Now she can pull the Ike/Silver maneuver if anyone says she's mafia.
I do kinda still think it's pure even though its silly to think itleetic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:42 pmWhat do you think about your wagon in light of the flip?Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:41 pmmaybe a little selfish but I was more focused on my own for a second lolleetic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:39 pmWhy did you not have much comment on the growing pyxxy wagon at EoD?Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:37 pm hihi o/ here sorry
@Epignosis the reason I focused pyxxy there is because both games we've been in so far, and now this one, we've been v/w but have hoped for a v/v rand. I joined the mountainous game to play w/ pyxxy again & similar here where my main thought there was "oh if pyxxy is v id like to be some sort of lifeline here"
was more trying to work out what was happening with the vote on me to really focus on the fact that pyxxy's wagon grew so much outside of 'hes dead, i dont really want to move there because i feel bad that hes so low energy and dont really want to kick him while hes down' ;O;
The hosts said they would modkill people for not posting. Was Daisy's one NGR post enough to evade that? I believe the flavor mentioned Daisy not being able to show up, is that meaningful?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:44 pm BTW my theory is someone got a gift and shot Daisy I dunno why everyone is assuming it's a modkill in role madness
it did kinda seem for a second like he was trying to get into things in hopes of a swing of votes off of him; the read on Seanzie & the vote on you
Also, do your feelings change in light of there likely being two wolf teams?Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:47 pm Porscha/Seanzie/TSP
Porscha is probably town, would give more scrutiny if her whole gameplan is to park town & afk but is what it is for now, Seanzie can be town regardless considering the one point Pyxxy decided to make near EOD is just 'not kill Seanzie' so I kinda want to roll with that for now & TSP I think just takes the Pyxxy vote since I think Scrappy said something that enabled them to move there
so yeah. lol me but probably pure
The lurker vig is a guess based on flavor and I think there was one of those in a game this year. It is a guess though, nothing concrete.leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:37 pmIs that an assumption based on flavor/timing or something else?Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:37 pmFor the record, it looks like Daisy was shot, not modkilled. Possibly a lurker vig.sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:49 pmShe (Daisy) was around or so I thought, just lurking more. This was in line with how she played Baby Muppet where we were both mafia together. So I was thinking that was her approach here. Given that she was mod killed and flipped town it's now pretty clear she ended up not having the time to play.leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:13 am While Epi is working on his analyses of the player interactions, I'll start to work on mine so that they won't be biased by his. Not gonna look at N0, since it's a bunch of crap and pyxxy did jack there anyways.
Not a mention of pyxxy but the Daisy stuff looks odd in hindsight. What "playstyle" was she demonstrating by just posting one NGR post saying she's busy and then dipping?sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:20 pm I’ll add to the scrappy doo stuff some more.
As already said they were a sock third party. The owner lucy had some goal that I can’t remember now, but it did have voting power and could be killed.
Also falcon was on my team that game not TSP.
I like LC train of thought on the secret Santa thing, that seems very much within his town meta.
Epi is a gut town read.
I’m liking Abigail posts even though she’s creating a town core
I’m eyeing Daisy right now, her play style right now reminds me of muppets, where she was present but a bit flatflooted being mafia.
No mentions of pyxxy until this last-minute vote. Like I said before, this looks like so obviously a bus that I doubt a player who's been around as long as Sig would actually go for it. Saying his townreads are on pyxxy does seem like a way to pass the buck, so I guess that's one small point against them being aligned, but it's still such a convenient excuse that I can't rule them out being wolf overall.
Yea Pyxxy wasn't really on my radar, but I didn't want to not vote so i joined the wagon
Having said that I did think I had more time to review, buuuuut, I probably wasn't going to hard push anyone. I don't have any really solid mafia reads or really even that many lock towns so I'm taking a more back seat approach for the time being.
eh, I saw the mafia/landlords thing but I dont think it's necessarily a multiball thing? unless someone flips with just one or the otherleetic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:50 pmAlso, do your feelings change in light of there likely being two wolf teams?Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:47 pm Porscha/Seanzie/TSP
Porscha is probably town, would give more scrutiny if her whole gameplan is to park town & afk but is what it is for now, Seanzie can be town regardless considering the one point Pyxxy decided to make near EOD is just 'not kill Seanzie' so I kinda want to roll with that for now & TSP I think just takes the Pyxxy vote since I think Scrappy said something that enabled them to move there
so yeah. lol me but probably pure
Looking at the OP, pyxxy is just listed as "Mafia" (no landlords) but brown is an unusual color to use (compared to the much more standard green for town).Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:39 pmGAME OF CHAMPIONS:
Cindy-Kate Bowl XIII
LIVING PLAYERS {12}Scrappy Doo - posts
- Delta - posts
- Epignosis - posts
- Falcon45ca - posts
- leetic - posts
- Long Con - posts
- Porscha - posts
- ☆Princess Abigail☆ - posts
- Ricochet - posts
- Seanzie - posts
- sig - posts
- Sloonei - posts
- TonyStarkPrime - posts
Hosts:
S~V~S - posts
Scotty - posts
DEAD PLAYERS {3}PHASE END SUMMARIES
- pyxxy - posts - Baked beans pizza (Mafia) - eliminated Day 1
- Caitlin - posts - Werealligator (Town) - killed Night 1
- Spacedaisy - posts - Viktor Vektor (Town) - killed Day 2
EVENTS POLLS
- End of Night 0
- End of Day 1 - pyxxy is eliminated
- End of Night 1 - Caitlin is killed
- Day 1 Death - Spacedaisy is killed
Day 1:Night 2 Poll (Where should we go next?):Spoiler: showSpoiler: show
makes sense
Ok, this is weird because no one has ever said something like that about a case I made. I'm gonna need to know what points you thought were good, please. This is the second time you've brought this up without really referencing anything in the case as a relevant point. Just vague. I'm gonna join Tony on your budding wagon at this time. Do you see why I'm suspicious? [VOTE: sig] aubergine
I had to/will have to check myself on who I'm townreading based off going after pyxxy. It's tough, because I still feel like I like all my townreads. So I'm keeping it in the back of my mind for now. I'd rather deal with a scum later, than turn on a civilian now.Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:16 pmmakes sense
I dont think I've actually been part of any multiball games so :,) unsure there
If it is multiball, it mainly affects my read on Seanzie/you since there's no guarantee that Pyxxy would know if either of you are town or the other mafia team etc, the other two I dont think change too much
