The Syndicate

UnMade.

Made wrote:Great game btw Mongoose <3

You're welcome anytime!

I will not vote Sabie today. I will not vote Roxy today. That leaves Rob and AP. Thoughts?

thellama73 wrote:I will not vote Sabie today. I will not vote Roxy today. That leaves Rob and AP. Thoughts?

I don't think you'll vote for AP.

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I will not vote Sabie today. I will not vote Roxy today. That leaves Rob and AP. Thoughts?

I don't think you'll vote for AP.

If he did it would make my vote choice a lot easier.

I was pretty sure roxy and epi were bad. They've consistently voted for civs.

sabie12 wrote:I was pretty sure roxy and epi were bad. They've consistently voted for civs.

I have voted for thellama73 (alignment undisclosed), Boogs (civilian), and Hedgeowl (alignment undisclosed). I voted for one known civilian. Why would you say these other two, whom you also voted for, are civilians?

Epignosis wrote:

sabie12 wrote:I was pretty sure roxy and epi were bad. They've consistently voted for civs.

I have voted for thellama73 (alignment undisclosed), Boogs (civilian), and Hedgeowl (alignment undisclosed). I voted for one known civilian. Why would you say these other two, whom you also voted for, are civilians?

I often consistently vote for civilians when I am good, because I don't have the knowledge necessary to avoid that kind of record. I try really hard not to let that sort of voting record happen when I am bad and can consciously avoid it.

thellama73 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

sabie12 wrote:I was pretty sure roxy and epi were bad. They've consistently voted for civs.

I have voted for thellama73 (alignment undisclosed), Boogs (civilian), and Hedgeowl (alignment undisclosed). I voted for one known civilian. Why would you say these other two, whom you also voted for, are civilians?

I often consistently vote for civilians when I am good, because I don't have the knowledge necessary to avoid that kind of record. I try really hard not to let that sort of voting record happen when I am bad and can consciously avoid it.

Voting off civilians makes you a civilian. Got it.

Idk really just trying to figure out something. This late in the game it's really hard to figure out what's up. It's my first try so I'm attempting to make some kind of educated guess, but this has been kind of a confusing game.

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

sabie12 wrote:I was pretty sure roxy and epi were bad. They've consistently voted for civs.

I have voted for thellama73 (alignment undisclosed), Boogs (civilian), and Hedgeowl (alignment undisclosed). I voted for one known civilian. Why would you say these other two, whom you also voted for, are civilians?

I often consistently vote for civilians when I am good, because I don't have the knowledge necessary to avoid that kind of record. I try really hard not to let that sort of voting record happen when I am bad and can consciously avoid it.

Voting off civilians makes you a civilian. Got it.

Not my point at all. Just that a bad vote record is not proof of baddieness, because baddies have ways of making their vote records look better than civvies don't have.

I don't have any reason to assume that AP 's role is different than what it was before the resurrection, so process of elimination leaves Rob. Sorry Rob.

sabie12 wrote:Idk really just trying to figure out something. This late in the game it's really hard to figure out what's up. It's my first try so I'm attempting to make some kind of educated guess, but this has been kind of a confusing game.

See, that's the seventh time you've reminded us of or highlighted your newness. At first I just thought you were nervous and didn't want to offend anyone, but now it sounds like you keep trying to excuse yourself. For what purpose?

Addendum: That's hardly process of elimination, but okay.

No you're right I am way too nice and feel bad trying to kill people off when I'm not really sure who to vote for.

sabie12 wrote:No you're right I am way too nice and feel bad trying to kill people off when I'm not really sure who to vote for.

I've been playing for ages and I still feel like that, but I also still feel uneasy about you.

A Person wrote:

sabie12 wrote:No you're right I am way too nice and feel bad trying to kill people off when I'm not really sure who to vote for.

I've been playing for ages and I still feel like that, but I also still feel uneasy about you.

I was just about to say that about you, AP!

Epignosis wrote:

A Person wrote:

sabie12 wrote:No you're right I am way too nice and feel bad trying to kill people off when I'm not really sure who to vote for.

I've been playing for ages and I still feel like that, but I also still feel uneasy about you.

I was just about to say that about you, AP!

All of it?

A Person wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

A Person wrote:

sabie12 wrote:No you're right I am way too nice and feel bad trying to kill people off when I'm not really sure who to vote for.

I've been playing for ages and I still feel like that, but I also still feel uneasy about you.

I was just about to say that about you, AP!

All of it?

That you feel bad eliminating people.

Epignosis wrote:

A Person wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

A Person wrote:

sabie12 wrote:No you're right I am way too nice and feel bad trying to kill people off when I'm not really sure who to vote for.

I've been playing for ages and I still feel like that, but I also still feel uneasy about you.

I was just about to say that about you, AP!

All of it?

That you feel bad eliminating people.

Oh I do, even when I am bad I feel guilty.

So see it's not just me then.

sabie12 wrote:So see it's not just me then.

"It's my first try so I'm attempting to make some kind of educated guess" isn't the same thing as "I don't like eliminating people because it makes me feel bad."

I didn't say they were the same thing I just said both of those are true. I've been trying to make educated guesses; sometimes right sometimes wrong. And I do feel bad especially when someone good dies because I do not want my fellow civs to die.

thellama73 wrote:Come on, Made. I defended you.

Flashbacks to Harry Potter.

Here is where I am at the moment:

sabie is new (in case you didn't know that by now ). Her suspicions have often been based on a tenuous reason. She also frequently reminds us of the objective of the game. I get being new and unfamiliar with things, but by Day 8, I wouldn't expect the same lack of confidence. Looking back, it appears forced. Also, Made I believe was the only person to bring anyone's attention to sabie. He got killed on an odd Night.

Roxy used to be difficult for me to read, but there's a very specific tell she has when she's bad. I've seen it twice now, but not here. If I am to vote Roxy, someone would have to convince me.

What drives me nuts about llama is that, although he prides himself on being logical, he's been cavalier and his suspicions are like Whack-a-Mole. For example, he didn't remember that A Person had replaced Keterman, who was (is) Big Felt until Made pointed it out. Now he votes me by "process of eliminate" (protip: He's doing it wrong). I'll admit that I've gone back and forth on him, but I don't get it: How does he survive death three times- one night kill and two lynches- if he's civilian? His behavior is so LMS it's not even funny: "Anyone but me!"

A Person = Keterman = Big Felt. The End.

++++

So my top two suspects are sabie and llama.

sabie12 wrote:I was pretty sure roxy and epi were bad. They've consistently voted for civs.

Look in the mirror sister bc so have you

As a matter of fact your vote for MR last round came from left field as you had been suspecting llama all game then suddenly there you are following his vote by being the last voter for MR - who you say you were suspicious of him for most of the game yet the only person you continually metioned was llama.

I am sorry but I am traveling as we speak so I need to vote now as I won't have access to internets (even by phone) bc of where I am traveling to. I do know I won't be at my hotel until 10-ish tonight. so I vote sabie.

No I'm not very articulate on explaining my votes you are correct in that sorry. I know at the very least that me and AP are good but I do not know about anyone else for sure. I don't think it's possible that there are very many good people left because if there were I'd think the game would be over. Llama is so confusing I gave up on him for a bit because I have no idea if my efforts will even kill him at this point. I was right that MR was bad so does it even matter that I hadn't voiced my suspicion for him before?

Well, I guess all I can do at this point is hope that AP realizes I'm good.

See, I wish you hadn't done that. Now I have to vote in my defense. I could have joined you in possibly voting elsewhere.

sabie12 wrote:Well, I guess all I can do at this point is hope that AP realizes I'm good.

Sorry, but I feel like Epi is presenting a better argument. I too feel uneasy about you relying on your newness.

A Person wrote:

sabie12 wrote:Well, I guess all I can do at this point is hope that AP realizes I'm good.

Sorry, but I feel like Epi is presenting a better argument. I too feel uneasy about you relying on your newness.

The only reason I have not voted for Sabie this game is that, after playing the helpless newbie card HARD, she posted this.

sabie12 wrote:Well of course I'm good and I am slowly figuring things out on my own. Not sure what you mean by teammates? Didn't know that was a thing. Do you have teammates helping you?

It rang true to me, but if it ends up having been deception, it's the dirtiest trick I have seen in any mafia game and I will come gunning straight for her in any subsequent games. It will be interesting indeed to see what her role is.

Special congrats to our all-time winningest FEB, Mr. Robinosis. Sabie, you were really getting the hang of this for your first game. I hope you will stick around The Syndicate. I'd be happy to host any of you again. Big thanks to S~V~S for modding.

Civilian Felt

Big Felt Rolls Keterman / A Person 2.0
Felt Samples Boogs
Peter Pan's Wardrobe Logan
Josef Beuys DFaraday
Accordion Hedge
Felt-tipped pens Matt/A Person
Pool Table Elohcin
Yurt bea
Frog Puppet Made
Pig Puppet Sabie12
Drum Mallets Bullzeye


Baddies

Hat Maker Roxy
Fedora Dom
Trilby Epignosis
Pillbox Vomps

Indie

The Puppet Slayer - Mister Rearranger

Congratulations, Roxy. You have ensured that I never give the slightest sympathy to anyone for real life circumstances ever again.

Made & Sabie12 were the puppets?

That was not expected at all.

I am pleased at not having to hate sabie forever, though.

Told you I was good. And yeah I did hide that I had a teammate but hey I made it to the end so Im happy.

Sabie, you played phenomenally. I do hope you harbor no hard feelings against this old FEB at heart. Making up that bullshit case on you at the end was painful for me, and A Person agreeing to it, while great in terms of the game, made me feel even more rotten.

I think our endgame was quite solid. We offed Made. That made it 3-2. I forced Sabie to vote for llama (even though she didn't ), but I had a +1 vote from eons ago that I used against her secretly. So I would survive any lynch against me.

Then we assumed there would be no even Night kill since no one tried to save MR.

On Night 8, I would force thellama73 to vote A Person (or vice versa) and we would win.

So we were rather confident once the puppet slayer died with no help.

Another thing: Hedgeowl.

We killed her because I had her pegged as a role checker.

Epignosis wrote:Another thing: Hedgeowl.

We killed her because I had her pegged as a role checker.

There were no role checkers in the roles, actually. The indie role was that he got to kill every even night (obviously) and that he searched for the puppets every night. The mallets blocked and protected, accordingly.

Great job, baddies, and wonderful game, Mongoose!

I was horrendous at guessing alignments this game. But I was right all along that Llama was civ.

Ok, so who day-blocked me?

My plan was to switch my lynch to Epi and check Made the very next night. Starting a day or 2 before that, I didn't think I had a chance anyways, and I resigned myself to causing chaos. How heartbreaking that I was closer than I imagined.

Oh, and awesome job, Mongoose!

Also, I pegged Vomps and Dom as my best bets on being Civs, I'm really sorry I killed you guys 'cause I usually try avoid NKing opposing baddies if at all possible.

Mister Rearranger wrote:Also, I pegged Vomps and Dom as my best bets on being Civs, I'm really sorry I killed you guys 'cause I usually try avoid NKing opposing baddies if at all possible.

I swore you had our names listed some place.

Epignosis wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:Also, I pegged Vomps and Dom as my best bets on being Civs, I'm really sorry I killed you guys 'cause I usually try avoid NKing opposing baddies if at all possible.

I swore you had our names listed some place.

Lol, I think I searched all of you except Vomps so as long as you weren't puppets and I thought you were decent, the kill light was green.

I actually debated checking Roxy or Made the night before I died, because I felt that both of them had BTSC. I just picked the wrong BTSC group. Still miffed about my prize not working, haha. Well-played.

Kudos and congrats!

Mister Rearranger wrote:Lol, I think I searched all of you except Vomps so as long as you weren't puppets and I thought you were decent, the kill light was green.

That's a solid strategy!

It was good in theory.

Did one of you guys win the weird block that sealed my fate?

Mongoose said my switch didn't work cause I got blocked, but it must have only been a day thing since my Bullzeye kill went through.