The Syndicate

Belshazzar wrote:

Rachel wrote:you know what i don't like?
the "uzzaiah might not be bad, but at least we'll get rid of uzzaiah" trick going on.

same tbh

Ditto. If Uzziah is bad, then it could potentially break the game open but if he's civvie, then it'll be evident that Day 1 and Day 2's stoning votes were all fluff and we'll be exactly nowhere in terms of tracking down baddies. I'd rather get a quiet one and open up the game that way.

Sorry I havent been super busy but looks like i'm getting votes for some B.S.. Looks like I will be voting to save myself.

Lazarus wrote:Sorry I havent been super busy but looks like i'm getting votes for some B.S.. Looks like I will be voting to save myself.

:P

I voted for Mary. My earlier thoughts on her still hold. Very busy, will hopefully chat more tonight.

sorry have.

I caught up some today, but don't totally get the Mary suspish. I am going to try to figure out the case there, but will likely vote for Uzziah; can someone give me the Mary Mag cliff notes? I am having problems getting past his Day One antics, tbh.

I went with Job.

Ruth wrote:I caught up some today, but don't totally get the Mary suspish. I am going to try to figure out the case there, but will likely vote for Uzziah; can someone give me the Mary Mag cliff notes? I am having problems getting past his Day One antics, tbh.

Mary voted for me under suspicious circumstances.

I made it in time to vote I voted Job for reasons previously stated.

Rachel wrote:

Ruth wrote:I caught up some today, but don't totally get the Mary suspish. I am going to try to figure out the case there, but will likely vote for Uzziah; can someone give me the Mary Mag cliff notes? I am having problems getting past his Day One antics, tbh.

Mary voted for me under suspicious circumstances.

Exactly this^.

Im voting Absolom he has done nothing to make me change my opinion of him.

Rachel wrote:

Ruth wrote:I caught up some today, but don't totally get the Mary suspish. I am going to try to figure out the case there, but will likely vote for Uzziah; can someone give me the Mary Mag cliff notes? I am having problems getting past his Day One antics, tbh.

Mary voted for me under suspicious circumstances.

Why is her vote more suspicious than Lots?

Jonathan wrote:After giving more though to a Uzziah vote again today I have decided to wait and give that another day or two to develop. He has been silent today (at least I didn't see anything from him) but I don't know if he is laying low or legitimately silenced. I have chosen to go with Lazarus today for the reasons that Mordecai and Balaam brought up today. One thing that does concern me is that maybe he has been silenced but I'm going to take the risk in his case.

Uzziah is not silenced. He commented on his vote two (real-time) days ago in response to Job's voting for him in Uzziah's same jokey manner. He hasn't spoken since. I'm gonna go ahead and vote for him for reasons previously stated.

Ruth wrote: Why is her vote more suspicious than Lots?

I do not even see where Lot explained his vote. In fact he said in his one post he would vote for Absalom. That's more weird than pingy, which means i would like an explanation before voting him.

Much more pingy is mary just saying "yeah, nice catch! *votes*"

Good point. Thanks

OK, gonna vote Mary. I would rather not tie it up which a vote for Uzziah would do.

Let's cement this one for Mary

Wolf please

Who slew Paul?

Poll ended at Mon May 11, 2015 6:27 pm

Absalom
1
Lazarus (23)
4%

Balaam
0
No votes

Barnabas
0
No votes

Bathsheba
0
No votes

Belshazzar
0
No votes

Deborah
0
No votes

Esther
0
No votes

Gideon
0
No votes

Hagar
0
No votes

Isaac
0
No votes

Jacob
0
No votes

Jephthah
0
No votes

Job
4
Uzziah (6), Isaac (11), Rachel (21), Esther (22)
15%

Jonah
0
No votes

Jonathan
0
No votes

Judah
0
No votes

Lazarus
3
Mordecai (10), Jonathan (15), Gideon (16)
12%

Lot
0
No votes

Malchus
0
No votes

Mary Magdalene
7
Rebecca (14), Jacob (17), Belshazzar (18), Jephthah (19), Deborah (20), Ruth (25), Balaam (26)
27%

Mordecai
0
No votes

Nicodemus
0
No votes

Pilate
0
No votes

Rachel
2
Lot (7), Mary Magdalene (8)
8%

Rahab
1
Jonah (12)
4%

Rebecca
0
No votes

Ruth
0
No votes

Samuel
0
No votes

Stephen
0
No votes

Uzziah
4
Job (5), Nicodemus (9), Absalom (13), Rahab (24)
15%

Pharisees (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
4
Epignosis (1), Martha (2), MovingPictures07 (3), Metalmarsh89 (4)
15%


Total votes : 26

C'mon host! I'm wearing out my F5 button! :P

1 When the serpents of Egypt had killed Paul, they did creep along the dust of the earth and took refuge in the tent of Mary Magdalene. 2 And it came to pass that in the morning, witnesses heard the sound the serpents made ere Mary Magdalena was awake.
3 “Surely she is a conspirator with the emissary from Egypt, who brought this evil among us. She must be destroyed,” they reasoned. 4 And so they were exceedingly vexed with the presence of Mary Magdalene, and went into her tent and slew her. 5 And when they prepared the body for burial, they were astonished, saying, “Wherefore did a man name himself Mary Magdalene?” 6 Another answered, saying, “We have surely sinned, for in the tent I found the seal of Israel, that which belongs only to King David. He hid himself as a woman to hide from his enemies” 7 And they tore their clothes and beat their breasts, having slain a king of Israel. 8 The Lord heard of their sins, and His wrath burned against the people of Sin-d’kaht. 9 And there was much linki.

I think I might have bamboozled myself on this one...

linki:

Requiescat in pace, Mary.

Belshazzar wrote:Yeah, if I don't see his lynch better than Samson's and Cain's, it's defending, but if I vote him and he flips civ, I'll literally have the most blood on my hands than everyone else. It's always a two-sided affair.

Are you really ok with this train of thought, however:
if Uzziah flips bad, yay,
if Uzziah flips civ and another civ is killed as well, eh, at least we discarded Uzziah.

Well it's a good thing you don't have any blood on your hands, Belshazzar.

Yeah, I'm pleased as punch.

Belshazzar wrote:Yeah, I'm pleased as punch.

You would be, having pulled your teammate from the fires of hell and damnation yet again.

Bah!

RIP Mary -

Balaam wrote:Bah!

I concur

Jonathan wrote:RIP Mary -

No. No no no no no! Frankly, Mary can BIH because she did jack $#!^ all game and didn't even bother defending herself. This should serve as a wake up call to all the quiet civvies out there. Get your asses in here and play! Tomorrow I am going to go after the chuckleheads who have posted the least and missed votes. Shame on you guys! Shame! Shame! Shame! A curse on both your houses and all that. Six players who are still alive have missed at least two votes. Noah, please don't let Barnabas, Bathsheba, Hagar, Judah, Pilate, or Samuel in the ark. I want to see one of them die for their sins of being noncommittal to this game. I demand expiation!

Um...RIP is just our convention here...did not mean to upset you so. But I get your point.

Nicodemus wrote:

Belshazzar wrote:Yeah, I'm pleased as punch.

You would be, having pulled your teammate from the fires of hell and damnation yet again.

Yep, drinks on him tonight.

Sarcasm mode off, be my guest to find anything I've said besides not voting him for the same reasons I voted Samson and Cain, given what a great job that was.

Jonathan wrote:Um...RIP is just our convention here...did not mean to upset you so. But I get your point.

Sorry. Not lashing out at you. Mary just doesn't deserve any pity or well-wishes from anybody. She played poorly; she died poorly. In fact, this lynch will probably cost us the game. It's going to be almost impossible to make up for three squandered days.

Hello all! My house exploded, but I am here now and ready to play this game.

I see we haven't been doing too well.

Fucking damnit. RIP Mary, even though you were barely here.

Now all we can do is wait for Epi to smite one of us. There is definitely something up with these lynch votes. That Mary wagon went from 0 to 60 in the blink of an eye. All we need to do is hit one heathen and this game is gonna take a turn for the better just on these poll results alone.

Hear O' Host;

The soul of the sluggard desireth, and hath nothing: but the soul of the diligent shall be made fat.

Balaam wrote:

Jonathan wrote:RIP Mary -

No. No no no no no! Frankly, Mary can BIH because she did jack $#!^ all game and didn't even bother defending herself. This should serve as a wake up call to all the quiet civvies out there. Get your asses in here and play! Tomorrow I am going to go after the chuckleheads who have posted the least and missed votes. Shame on you guys! Shame! Shame! Shame! A curse on both your houses and all that. Six players who are still alive have missed at least two votes. Noah, please don't let Barnabas, Bathsheba, Hagar, Judah, Pilate, or Samuel in the ark. I want to see one of them die for their sins of being noncommittal to this game. I demand expiation!

Why might these six players be bad?

Rachel wrote:

Balaam wrote:

Jonathan wrote:RIP Mary -

No. No no no no no! Frankly, Mary can BIH because she did jack $#!^ all game and didn't even bother defending herself. This should serve as a wake up call to all the quiet civvies out there. Get your asses in here and play! Tomorrow I am going to go after the chuckleheads who have posted the least and missed votes. Shame on you guys! Shame! Shame! Shame! A curse on both your houses and all that. Six players who are still alive have missed at least two votes. Noah, please don't let Barnabas, Bathsheba, Hagar, Judah, Pilate, or Samuel in the ark. I want to see one of them die for their sins of being noncommittal to this game. I demand expiation!

Why might these six players be bad?

I'm not worried about them being bad at this point. We've got this coming up:

Epignosis wrote:Noah
For every three righteous that are stoned, there will be divine judgment, and a randomly chosen civilian will die. Whenever divine judgment draws nigh, Noah will select seven others to join him in his ark, avoiding the punishment. Only Noah can protect against this calamity.

If we have to lose a civilian, I'd like it to be one of those six.

....it's random, you have no control over this. Neither does Noah.

I believe Balaam pleaded Noah not to nominate those players to be protected from the random civilian death.

Rachel wrote:....it's random, you have no control over this. Neither does Noah.

He can choose seven people to take aboard the ark, sparing them from the random smiting. If none of the six I listed are taken aboard the ark, any one of them could be smited, which will be fine by me. I'm out for blood.

Nevermind, it's a bit of both, I didn't read properly the exchange. So yes, one of those six might still not be killed, because the kill is random.

I didn't think Mary Magdalene was a terrible choice for a lynch (I would have been on board, I'm sorry to say), but I am surprised about how it once again sort of developed from nowhere and became a lynch train.

Let me just address three things real quick.

1) I'm astonished - genuinely astonished - at how people could go after me for 'not truly considering the possibility that Absalom might be being framed' seeing as I was the person to raise the possibility. Great way to turn my words against me.

2) I voted Rachel because Belthazzar's post told me what I needed to know. I went back and did a reread of Rachel. For me, the number one sign that someone is bad is that they can't keep straight their own thinking on 'what is bad'. Rachel was suspicious of Balaam for his lists. Later, she was suspicious of someone else for being suspicious of Balaam's lists. For me, there is no way a civilian has these two suspicions. I'm surprised at how many people accept 'I forgot'. If you have to manufacture reasons for suspecting people, you do tend to forget them. But if you find a particular kind of behaviour suspicious (eg, Balaam's lists) I tend to think this is something entrenched inside you - you don't just forget it and then a day later find someone else suspicious for doing exactly what you did. I think Racel was sailing with the wind - when the Balaam suspicion didn't stick, she went a different direction. I'm big on looking for inconsistent thinking (see my day one Jephthah vote rationale). For me, Rachel is the most likely candidate to be bad, I'm really quite sold on it.

3) I tend to think it's fairly obvious what I meant by 'this is the only time you'll hear from me today'... I had posting restrictions. Beats being completely silenced, though, at least I had one chance to get my thoughts out. For what it's worth, I still think that the Absalom stuff is so ludicrous that it points more towards him being bad than framed. It became very clear that he was cursed, but the curse didn't force him to propose the 'pattern of killing annoying people' theory.

Balaam wrote:

Jonathan wrote:Um...RIP is just our convention here...did not mean to upset you so. But I get your point.

Sorry. Not lashing out at you. Mary just doesn't deserve any pity or well-wishes from anybody. She played poorly; she died poorly. In fact, this lynch will probably cost us the game. It's going to be almost impossible to make up for three squandered days.

It's not impossible. There are a lot of civvies in this game to begin with. We just gotta start doing better.

Also, anyone who dies in divine judgement, I think... could be a candidate for being born again (should we have a rez up our sleeves). Because while a lot of civilians die, there is always the outside possibility of a seemer, whereas divine judgement must hit a civilian. If I read things correctly.

Although, David is pretty powerful, so MM might be worth the risk. I understand where Balaam is coming from, but I've seen people who aren't that much help in the thread win the game for the civs behind the scenes with their power.

Lot wrote:Also, anyone who dies in divine judgement, I think... could be a candidate for being born again (should we have a rez up our sleeves). Because while a lot of civilians die, there is always the outside possibility of a seemer, whereas divine judgement must hit a civilian. If I read things correctly.

It's not clear that the randomly selected civvie will have their role revealed. I assume we're going to be left knowing that they were good but not knowing exactly who we are. Maybe the host can clarify that one.

Balaam wrote:

Lot wrote:Also, anyone who dies in divine judgement, I think... could be a candidate for being born again (should we have a rez up our sleeves). Because while a lot of civilians die, there is always the outside possibility of a seemer, whereas divine judgement must hit a civilian. If I read things correctly.

It's not clear that the randomly selected civvie will have their role revealed. I assume we're going to be left knowing that they were good but not knowing exactly who we are. Maybe the host can clarify that one.

What I mean is - someone who is lynched can have their role revealed, but they could be a seemer - ie a baddie who, when lynched, looks civilian. But I think someone who suffers divine judgement MUST be civilian, whether or not their role is revealed...

But honestly we are probably better off rezzing someone who we know has a decent power than someone random anyway, so I don't even really buy my own idea as that helpful, on second thoughts.

so pages of analysis of absalom are trumped by one misguided comment i made, lot?

cool story

I didn't do 'pages of analysis' on Absalom.... actually, what accounted for most of my post was a single post he made too, which tipped me over the edge. However, my confusion about who was who between you, Rebecca, and Ruth certainly made me realise the need to go back and read all three of you, which I duly did.

Interesting that you chose to characterise my one post as 'pages of analysis', however.

You and Absalom - both of you seem more likely to be on the side of bad, to me. My vote for you was because I think your 'one misguided comment' was incredibly misguided indeed. Or, to put it another way, I think it is evidence that your suspicions are not entirely genuine.