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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:01 pm
by juliets
iaafr wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:57 pm
juliets wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:56 pm I unvoted Mac, deciding where to go. Probably Long Con.
could you summarize everything you consider alignment indicative about TL?
I will but not until tomorrow. Too tired tonight to tackle his ISO. I don't have a really strong TR on him, it is more a town lean.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:02 pm
by iaafr
juliets wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:01 pm
iaafr wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:57 pm
juliets wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:56 pm I unvoted Mac, deciding where to go. Probably Long Con.
could you summarize everything you consider alignment indicative about TL?
I will but not until tomorrow. Too tired tonight to tackle his ISO. I don't have a really strong TR on him, it is more a town lean.
so I'm assuming long con saying he'd never bus doesn't sway you in the slightest?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:02 pm
by iaafr
the day 3 vote bothers me a bit because it was rly 1 away from putting elephant into the tie

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:10 pm
by juliets
iaafr wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:02 pm
juliets wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:01 pm
iaafr wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:57 pm
juliets wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:56 pm I unvoted Mac, deciding where to go. Probably Long Con.
could you summarize everything you consider alignment indicative about TL?
I will but not until tomorrow. Too tired tonight to tackle his ISO. I don't have a really strong TR on him, it is more a town lean.
so I'm assuming long con saying he'd never bus doesn't sway you in the slightest?
Scum lies in mafia and that's ok. I can't remember even though I've played with him for years if he busses or not. I haven't voted him yet because I am not yet sure thats where I want to go though. I think I'll know for sure after I ISO TLib. It sure seems like one of us has to be scum and it's not me. One of us also has to be the vig.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:12 pm
by juliets
iaafr wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:02 pm the day 3 vote bothers me a bit because it was rly 1 away from putting elephant into the tie
Yeah I'm going to go back and look at that vote. I'm pretty sure I have all the votes recorded in the thread for that day phase so I can see where he voted. It may be like he says, he voted before work and didn't move off because he was at work.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:14 pm
by juliets
Our votes are spread out all over the board which is not good. We need to start to consolidate.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:17 pm
by juliets
Ok I'm shutting down for the night, I'm wiped out from work. Will be back in the morning. Tag me if you want me to respond to something, otherwise I'll start in on TLib's ISO.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:28 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
We have another 22 hours or so to consolidate (around my scumreads).

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:34 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
I want opinions on the chances of a Iaafr/Juliets/x scumteam.

They’ve interacted a ton today.

Gth, if one of them flipped wolf, what would that do for your read on the other?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:34 pm
by iaafr
no

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:37 am
by MacDougall
I AM SO TOWN

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:37 am
by iaafr
no me

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:38 am
by iaafr
actually thinking i should carry out epi's legacy and vote TL

and just sheep 112

longcon and juliets are both ultimately towny

his flip should also clear up if he actually has mech info on 3p

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:38 am
by iaafr
[VOTE: trustworthy liberal] aubergine

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:51 am
by iaafr
Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:55 pm I think Quin is trying to imply they're spiny's mason?

Yeah, that's super not a good look.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine
evenstar was pretty much hard scumsiding on the day she was likely poisoned and aware of her poison, and she @'d me trying to get me to vote nutella and epi and she turned on hyena, while trying to get me off quin and elephant and seeming reluctant on pawn

i think TL might just be the 3p poisoner because i see in his iso that he tried to discredit a poisoner theory in favor of some dayvigthatgoesoffatnight theory for no apparent reason. if we're thinking level 1 he's just trying to spew himself not the poisoner, which he is. i kind of just want to kill him. i like both longcon and juliets now. i'd go quin and pawn after.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:54 am
by Master Radishes
I'm out in the evening (which is EoD for me) and am not sure how much I'll be around from now till then. I'll try to do some ISOs on my lunch break.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:56 am
by iaafr
like both juliets and longcon are so eager to lynch inside the group

TL is the only one not fully embracing it and seemingly dodging the thread

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:04 am
by iaafr
still coming back to maybe jacks just a wolf too

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:11 am
by iaafr
sheep mac: jack is a wolf

his logic makes sense to me and is different from mine which also makes sense to me

he has enduringly been one of my strongest townreads after i came into the phase sussing him

sheep 112/longcon/epi: TL is a wolf or 3p. if 3p, voters unfortunately dont get cred but i think it is a priority.

i think theres 2 bad individuals in colin/quin/pawn/radishes, maybe 3

cannot bring myself to make iso cases

still think juliets is town after all

think longcon is town despite my momentary tunnel today

cant decide what to quote... hmmm

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:27 am
by iaafr
top 4 kills

1. TL - focus on 3p scummy, could be 3p himself, most of his actual reads very thin and unsubstantiated, no apparent direction today yet, less than 16 hours from phase end.
2. Jack - last member of epi/dom/me/jack phase 4 layer, last living 112 voter, sussed by drago who seemed bussy, pawn . enduring scumreads on me/radishes/pawn but loses focus on pawn, maybe partnery with pawn too. sussed eva but not when it mattered, sussed eva phase 1 but ended up voting 112 over eva, who was a wagon of 3.

--

3. ColinisCool - rej slot was actually scummy on recent re-examination, seems a bit... surface level, i could see the flip flop off of long con being agendaed to avoid looking bad for voting who he believes is town rather than 3p.
4. Quin - progression to vote on hyena still makes no sense, treats me weirdly and i dont see why he stopped sussing me either, literally no reason given to vote hyena over me. incapable of meaningfully towntelling to me, if this changes take him off the list. not convinced michelles read on him should clear him.

if TL flips regular scum and not 3p, radishes next

today we consolidate on TL and jack. 112/mac/juliets/lc towncore.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:31 am
by iaafr
man maybe lld is scum after all

what a way to play if so

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:41 am
by iaafr
just read the michelle iso and i can buy quin as the cop green actually so maybe just clear him

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:42 am
by iaafr
iaafr wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:41 am just read the michelle iso and i can buy quin as the cop green actually so maybe just clear him
... ... ... well itll be up to you guys not me

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:44 am
by iaafr
maybe can buy pawn as a cop green too lmao

jack / colin / tl / mr / lld ?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:48 am
by iaafr
my 112 clear is honestly really stupid idk

this phase is just so disappointing with 112 pawn lld TL pretty much not playing

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:53 am
by iaafr
jacks reads are so 1d except the one on me tho

and 112/jack doesnt seem compatible

and my 112 clear is the greatest thing in existence and if you vote 112 in lylo you will be forsaking my strongest townread in the game so autovote whoever isnt 112

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:54 am
by iaafr
and the only reason his scumread on me is good is because its a great scumread i mean i tried to clear evenstar through like 3 different ways and hard scumsided for like 3 dream phases straight

except im town and he scum

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:59 am
by iaafr
but trustworthy liberal first because

1. he is also very scummy
2. he is more of a guaranteed step towards resolving the 3p situation
3. he is part of the long con / juliets group, and as ive said, the other 2 seem eager to vote into the group while TL seems to be dodging the issue and the game entirely

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:00 am
by iaafr
also benson / 112 / long con mindmeld?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:00 am
by iaafr
miss u benson

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:04 am
by iaafr
i did the spec chat iaafr thing

where i tunneled somebody, cased them in a way that convinced others to strengthen their scumreads on them, and then abandoned the scumread a few hours later

this time being scumreading long con and convincing juliets who i still think is town

classic

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:05 am
by iaafr
iaafr wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:27 am top 4 kills

1. TL - focus on 3p scummy, could be 3p himself, most of his actual reads very thin and unsubstantiated, no apparent direction today yet, less than 16 hours from phase end.
2. Jack - last member of epi/dom/me/jack phase 4 layer, last living 112 voter, sussed by drago who seemed bussy, pawn . enduring scumreads on me/radishes/pawn but loses focus on pawn, maybe partnery with pawn too. sussed eva but not when it mattered, sussed eva phase 1 but ended up voting 112 over eva, who was a wagon of 3.

--

3. ColinisCool - rej slot was actually scummy on recent re-examination, seems a bit... surface level, i could see the flip flop off of long con being agendaed to avoid looking bad for voting who he believes is town rather than 3p.
4. Quin - progression to vote on hyena still makes no sense, treats me weirdly and i dont see why he stopped sussing me either, literally no reason given to vote hyena over me. incapable of meaningfully towntelling to me, if this changes take him off the list. not convinced michelles read on him should clear him.
4. radishes - he prolly 3p

if TL flips regular scum and not 3p, radishes next

today we consolidate on TL and jack. 112/mac/juliets/lc towncore.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:56 am
by iaafr
dont you guys think life is too short sometimes

but at the same time its so long

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:01 am
by iaafr
subconscious aspect of apathy here, btw, nice to meet u

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:05 am
by iaafr
Long Con wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:38 pm Looks like iaafr is the one today. I'll stay on LLD in case of last minute changes.
man this is so frickin scummy tho

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:06 am
by iaafr
iaafr wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:04 am i did the spec chat iaafr thing

where i tunneled somebody, cased them in a way that convinced others to strengthen their scumreads on them, and then abandoned the scumread a few hours later

this time being scumreading long con and convincing juliets who i still think is town

classic
mightve done the thing where i had the right read, convinced somebody else, then flipped

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:14 am
by iaafr
Long Con wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:34 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:33 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:28 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:26 pm Meanwhile [VOTE: nutella] aubergine
drake dot jay peg

Why do people keep voting Nutella?
Why do you keep buddying me?
You asked for more memes.

I’m not gonna fight you. You’re easy af to read.
Why does anyone Civ-read you?
w/w

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:18 am
by iaafr
but ugh is it just mechanically correct to take out 3p radishes who seems to be still scumsiding in scumreads while defending me

[VOTE: master radishes] aubergine

[mention]Master Radishes[/mention] you said to remind you to spell out your juliets scumread

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:22 am
by iaafr
long con and jackofhearts2005 are scum together

radishes might be scum or 3p

i dont think colin could be scum with long con and i find him townier than jack and long con

i went full circle in about 24 hours

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:23 am
by iaafr
but no he could easily be scum with long con he just moved off of him lol

and if radishes is 3p he doesnt get cred obv

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:26 am
by iaafr
it is the job of every town with time today to come down on a firm opinion between juliets / long con / tlib and i highly recommend not scumreading juliets

but also develop a firm opinion on whether poisoner 3p radishes is actually poisoner 3p and whether if so he should be taken out today

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:27 am
by iaafr
also scumread jack

hmmmmmmmmm should reread pawn tomorrow morning

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:39 am
by iaafr
Benson wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:39 pm
112 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:36 pm elephant is so agenda-y
I keep getting pings that he's slowly planting the seeds for future mislynches.
this interaction looks good for 112

this is relevant because you should never mislynch 112 in this game do not vote 112

Re: Inception [Hypnagogic Phase]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:40 am
by iaafr
juliets wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:28 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:24 pm
juliets wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:00 am Can someone who is seeing @iaafr as scum talk about their read? I know some people have changed their mind on him so I'm not exactly sure where everyone stands. I tend to agree with Master Radish. I said earlier he was behaving like he did in spec chat just wasn't ready to call that town until MR's post. Anyway, I would appreciate understanding why some think he's bad.

Also, Epi has been called town and I read his ISO to see if I agreed. I think it's a bit early to town read him, he is tricky. I need more posts to make a read there, I'm just advising caution for now.
Feels like he's trying to pocket 112, incoherent reads, tone is off. I do not like it sam I am.
Thanks, I saw the incoherent reads and the tone as his normal behavior but I have not seen him in an in-game setting. I'll re-read his ISO with your points in mind.
this looks extremely good for juliets never lynch juliets in this game

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 7]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:44 am
by iaafr
Quin wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:54 pm
sprityo wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:22 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:20 pm
Epignosis wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:08 pm Jack, please talk to me about MacDougall if you would, as you haven't done so much relatively speaking.
You’re complaining that nobody is looking at interactions with flipped wolves.

Mac posted like 40 examples of your interactions with flipped wolves that look really bad.

Town Mac is as easy to find as town Nutella. This is town Mac.

That said, I think he’s also wrong Mac.

TL is also town, whichever of you was accusing him.
sounds great, my poe leaves me at pawn then. iaafr can wait given how stupid yesterday went with the polls

[VOTE: Pawn Lelouch] aubergine
[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine
honestly what the hell is quin doing in this game

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:48 am
by iaafr
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:19 am Also i looked at the votes on Vanity the people voting that i trust pretty well are you me and Nanook

Should read Long con and will in the morning

And null on Elephant

so if a scums on that it should be between them 90% of the time
this post is honestly a pretty good look imo

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:53 am
by iaafr
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:29 am iaafr
6
26%
Voters: sprityo, Dom, Jackofhearts2005, juliets, Epignosis, ColinIsCool

Is this town voting is my question are people confident in the people pushing this i like 3/6 here dislike 2 and am null on one.
iaafr is still not a town read but how the wagon has gone makes me second guess this.

sprityo
Jackofhearts2005
juliets
Dom
ColinIsCool
Epignosis
this is pretty good

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:53 am
by iaafr
i think its literally only one scum on me though, jack, 2 max, if im getting pocketed by colin this phase

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:55 am
by iaafr
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:16 am Also hi i woke up from a nap after Alpha testing home site stuff most Likely will sleep again but will say

Iaafr i do see where your coming from not alot of resistance to your lynch which makes me feel you are likely not scum Town reading Mac and he would be your partner if you were.

Epi i don't know honestly he could very easily be town that Mac is Focused on.

Hyena IDK want to town read but gut keeps saying mafia but specfic plays and wordings make my brain say towny.

Pawn could lynch but think we lose information if town flip accures unless i am missing more from your all adventure to the other forum
i like this post as well

so im staying the course on long con / jack / radishes

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 8]

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:59 am
by iaafr
actually maybe i shouldnt like those tl posts

whatever

kill radishes / jack first and profit?