Inception [END]

[Quin]

Jack, please talk to me about MacDougall if you would, as you haven't done so much relatively speaking.

You’re complaining that nobody is looking at interactions with flipped wolves.

Mac posted like 40 examples of your interactions with flipped wolves that look really bad.

Town Mac is as easy to find as town Nutella. This is town Mac.

That said, I think he’s also wrong Mac.

TL is also town, whichever of you was accusing him.

sounds great, my poe leaves me at pawn then. iaafr can wait given how stupid yesterday went with the polls

[VOTE: Pawn Lelouch] aubergine

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

honestly what the hell is quin doing in this game

fucked if i know

[MacDougall]

Rabbit what you want me to do?

[juliets]

Trustworthy Liberal:

Day 2
- Votes Drago day 1, 6th vote on Drago. towny
- Gives 4 reasons for votes that others like LC find lacking (I thought they were fine)
- Defends boo for voting no Lynch vote - towny
- Votes DFaraday
- Benson was pushing TLib as wolf and died that night - scummy

Day 3
- Asked more than once if the neutral was why we were separated. Thought that killing the neutral might reunite us. I never understood this line of thought but I include it because someone might think it's important.
- Suspects vanity, posts several long suspicion posts - scummy but most of us had suspicion of him at some point
- Votes vanity
- Quotes the actions cost two role points and says we should vote upon saving shots for the vig. Not sure what this means - also talks about actions 1 pt on "the other side" - TLib what did you mean in this post:
- Talks more about the vig - says we can't role claim but could be useful to talk about
- Says he extremely scum reads vanity - scummy but again many of us were stuck in this view
- Says we should let the vanity thing sit overnight but doesn't know where he would move
- Asks if vanity flips town who are the scum on his wagon - towny thought
- Brings us that Creature was taking multiple reads from dead people who thought vanity was town, sees this as scummy behavior - scummy
- Says we are safer waiting a night on Ty4on until more people arrive from the other side to provide info - towny
- When Nanook declared me and Elephant in the town core along with TLib and some others there was some controversy. TLib said to take him and Elephant out until things were resolved. towny

Day 4
- Talks more about the vig
- Feels vanity is the vote for today but wants to take another look at Long Con
- Votes Vanity

Day 5
- Told LLD to back off and told her she did nothing Day 5 and just watched us push vanity
- Reads Michelle town
- Says it's highly unlikely Eva is the vig. Doesn't think vig can still vote.
- Says he's 99% sure Texas and DF were vig shots (so vig on our level)
- Suspects me because I say he could be the "person in the POE who hasn't been pushed" from GH's article. Points out he has been pushed. towny
- Post reads list, from town to scum: juliets, nutella, hyena, elephant (scum), Long Con (scum) - towny
- Linked to a recent scum game - I read part of it and concluded he seemed different in that game, more sure of himself. towny
- Someone says the vig will get someone and he points out the vig is probably out of shots.
- Don't see a vote for Day 5. scummy

Day 6
- Thinks neutral killed nutella, not the vig
- Asks "what letter" when I mentioned Eva's letter. towny derp?
- Believes strongly Radish is the 3 p, killed Eva and nutella, and we need to get rid of him.
- Says a vig would have shot hyena last night.
- Says vig would have never shot nutella.
- Votes Master Radishes
- Lists another reason why nutella was not a vig kill
- Says vig hasn't shot in 3 nights and has to be a member of the main thread
- Says again the vig would have never and most likely couldn't kill nutella
- Says vig is out of ammo or if not wouldn't shoot nutella
- Thinks Eva killed by poison
- Says Epi wouldn't be a bad kill today
- Feels iaafr probably not scum and Mac seems towny, could Lynch Pawn
- Michelle who has played with TLib a lot saw him as town in behavior and tone (don't think she checked him)
- Unvotes
- Votes Dom

++++++++++++++++++++
I have to stop here but I think that's ok. I strongly believe that TLib is the vig who is out of shots. Look at how many times he mentions that role. I do not believe he is scum. The only thing that causes me any concern is he has not been around last phase and this one.

[juliets]

[mention]iaafr[/mention] see my above post about TLib

[juliets]

I forgot to post this last night. These are some Michelle posts from Day 5 about [mention]Pawn Lelouch[/mention]. I think she green peaked him. I don't foresee voting for Pawn today. But Pawn, please come and play the game.

nutella-- let's focus on something more productive.

is pawn bad or nah

I liked Nutellas answer at this question. Keeping in mind I have Pawn top town and I consider her town and Dom scum this kind of question means for me a shade for both.
For who is productive to instill an indirect doubt? for scum. Who you Dom asking? A consensus TR.

I'm supposed to be getting work done but I'm reading random ISOs instead.

Pawn's mafia isn't he?

I can only read Pawn villager after our dream level posts.

Spoiler: show

think we see the game differently

wish you'd be a bit more respectful and not repeatedly imply youre obviously right and im obviously wrong in everything

is disagreement a lack of respect?

Nutella my english misunderstandings are often happening, this is my problem and I know they look odd for natives. My wording lack force sometimes because i have to express myself with the words I know and who are not enough. I am a latin languages specialist because all the language I learned in school are latin based like my native language. English is different and I never studied it, i learned it by reading. So to take posts and say what I feel about them is always hard for me. Regarding Elephant I choose posts I can talk about, I know he has many posts more relevant for a scum case against him.

I think you do a pretty good job, tbh.

That was 13 pages that were barely worth reading.

Cool!


Can I just say that these posts are kind of just as worthless as the posts you're complaining about? You have control of what is in the thread. Change it if you don't like it.


I struggle to land on someone who isn't Eva. Elephant v. Michelle seemed civ v. civ to me. Can someone explain why it's not?

Thanks for encouragement.

I will tell you why the bolded is wrong. Giving my step by step reads I made in this game, I have Pawn as town and Pawn saying Eve is villager, I would never lynch her today.

aand me vs Elephant is civ vs mafia. Which I think you know because I SR you too.

Pawn is my town read.

DON'T LYNCH IN THAT WAGON TODAY PLEASE. LET THE DRAGO VOTERS FOR FURTHER TINFOILS.

Pawn is my town read.

DON'T LYNCH IN THAT WAGON TODAY PLEASE. LET THE DRAGO VOTERS FOR FURTHER TINFOILS.

Tell me why Pawn is townie.

he voted for scum.
in the dream level he didn't show an agenda or twisting logic in a scummy way.
I have a gut read for him as town.

I can't convince you.

my final reads today because I may sleep at Eod
Elephant lock scum
scum leans LLD, Hyena

town: Quin, Pawn, Dom
town leans: Nutella, Jack.Eve, Epi

[juliets]

I am off to an appointment bbs.

[Quin]

[VOTE: LLD] aubergine heh

[juliets]

Since I am town and I have a town read on TLib, I'm going to put a vote back on Long Con.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

[Jackofhearts2005]

maybe can buy pawn as a cop green too lmao

jack / colin / tl / mr / lld ?

Yes, I’m a wolf arguing with you and my partner so that you correctly clear Quin and Pawn.

People think these are real thoughts that Iaafr keeps having but people are wrong.

[Jackofhearts2005]

and the only reason his scumread on me is good is because its a great scumread i mean i tried to clear evenstar through like 3 different ways and hard scumsided for like 3 dream phases straight

except im town and he scum

[Jackofhearts2005]

Lol “Jacks reads are only good cause I’m so damn suspicious.”

[Jackofhearts2005]

I love you dearly but your merry chase is over.

[VOTE: Iaafr] aubergine

[Long Con]

Feel no matter what iaafr is the Lynch and not worth just dropping mu vote to but problum being I am going be afk from this point till EoD unless i get off early which is extremely unlikely.

At this point Iaafr I head wagon by alot unless you count the DEAD option.

Neutral can live one more day due to limitation's and a janitor flip would be amazing right now.

Janitor ia very unlikely within the original group so that's a reason to push epi/iaafr by I feel if iaafr was the janitor if they have points they would be getting a better defense so.

Also I feel Dom and Epi could be wolfs together based on their defense for one another just a possiblity I am starting to belive more and more.

Gonna end voting [VOTE: Dom] aubergine actually i think people are clearing of interactions way to fast

You were calling Epi-Dom w/w and went after Dom first, but then Dom died town and you still went after Epi. You voted Epi here, but you seemed to have very little suspicion of him aside from the Dom thing.

@Trustworthy Liberal who are you looking at to vote?

I am good with either Long Or Epi at this point can just go here

[VOTE: Epi] aubergine

You held off your vote until juliets prompted you. When did you vote Epi? Was he the biggest wagon at the time?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Okay so this is actually a massive problem.



[mention]MacDougall[/mention] [mention]Quin[/mention] [mention]juliets[/mention] [mention]ColinIsCool[/mention] [mention]iaafr[/mention] [mention]Lady LambdaDelta[/mention] [mention]Pawn Lelouch[/mention] [mention]Long Con[/mention] [mention]112[/mention] [mention]Trustworthy Liberal[/mention] [mention]Master Radishes[/mention]

Let's try something different.

Everyone gets a veto. Three players veto the same wagon, everyone agrees to not lynch that player and we can move towards doing something instead of standing around with all these 1 and 2 vote wagons.

[Jackofhearts2005]

And you can't veto yourself.

[juliets]

So [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] we get one veto each? Just want to make sure what I'm doing.

[Jackofhearts2005]

So Jackofhearts2005 we get one veto each? Just want to make sure what I'm doing.

Yeah. Like hypothetically, if 3 players have Iaafr as their top townread, I should consider that maybe I'm being an idiot.

You never lynch a wolf with a town who can't even consolidate more than 2 votes on a player by day 8.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

Feel no matter what iaafr is the Lynch and not worth just dropping mu vote to but problum being I am going be afk from this point till EoD unless i get off early which is extremely unlikely.

At this point Iaafr I head wagon by alot unless you count the DEAD option.

Neutral can live one more day due to limitation's and a janitor flip would be amazing right now.

Janitor ia very unlikely within the original group so that's a reason to push epi/iaafr by I feel if iaafr was the janitor if they have points they would be getting a better defense so.

Also I feel Dom and Epi could be wolfs together based on their defense for one another just a possiblity I am starting to belive more and more.

Gonna end voting [VOTE: Dom] aubergine actually i think people are clearing of interactions way to fast

You were calling Epi-Dom w/w and went after Dom first, but then Dom died town and you still went after Epi. You voted Epi here, but you seemed to have very little suspicion of him aside from the Dom thing.

@Trustworthy Liberal who are you looking at to vote?

I am good with either Long Or Epi at this point can just go here

[VOTE: Epi] aubergine

You held off your vote until juliets prompted you. When did you vote Epi? Was he the biggest wagon at the time?

1: i voted dom in a hope to aggro a wolf off onto him that didn't happen sadly but was an attempt to none the less i didn't believe 100% that they were W/W but wanted to see if i made a week case for it if a wolf would try to push that.

2. He was a lead wagon by a large factor so i decided in my mind that i was okay with his lynch. I didn't make one ahead of the other and no one was going to do anything and didn't do anything at that EoD except voicing a idea to conter wagon me who's vote didn't change the wagonistics.

Also like good dam Iaafr and 112 you think i could be mafia seriously.
If a scum is in the three as i've said since EARLY IN THE GOD DAM GAME IT"S LONG CON.
but you all seem to hate this idea and kept shuting me up.


but i am thinking and there are a quite air amount of people pushing to resolve this group of people so heres a idea what if we were all town yes if one is evil it is long con but if we were all good and the godfather was suppose to join us on the bottom floor. that is a piece of thought killing me is killing a pretty obvious town this coming from someone who knows they normally look bad but for one doesn't.

Preferred wagons are. Iaafr, Long Con, Master.

[Master Radishes]

I'm out with friends. (On train now reading ISOs.) Will try to be back before EoD but promise nothing beyond making sure I vote.

[Master Radishes]

I've changed my mind about seventeen times today BTW. Currently on juliets v, Mac w. It'll change in a minute I'm sure.

[Master Radishes]

LC's votes may be too good. Either super town or master busser.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Alternatively, we could all give out lists of 3 wagons we like, then narrow possible wagons to the most popular X number of players on those lists.

Whatever. Usually, I just at mention people and don't get my way so I'm trying something new.

[Long Con]

Don't lynch: Colin, 112, Radishes

[mention]juliets[/mention] we have to resolve this thing. If you are Civ, so am I, then TLib is the one. That's where I'm putting my vote. I have to go no, I am taking the wife to a concert in Buffalo, New York. AJR concert. That's where I'll be, I'll try to look at the thread close to lynch time. [VOTE: TLib] aubergine

[Jackofhearts2005]

Candid cameraing continues.

[juliets]

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] I would veto Pawn based on Michelle's posts. I think she checked him.

[mention]Master Radishes[/mention] can you just veto one person? Will only take a minute.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

Alternatively, we could all give out lists of 3 wagons we like, then narrow possible wagons to the most popular X number of players on those lists.

Whatever. Usually, I just at mention people and don't get my way so I'm trying something new.

Here you go for both btw

Prefored wagons: Iaafr, Long Con, Master

Disliked Wagons: Juliets, Jack, Mac, (Myself)

[Master Radishes]

Veto 112.

[juliets]

Sorry [mention]Master Radishes[/mention] didn't see your posts above.

[Master Radishes]

Also veto LLD and quin.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack: How bout we all list one player we don't want to lynch?
TL: I do want to lynch one of these three players.
Jack: Okay, that's fine. Let's all lynch three players we do want to lynch.
LC: I don't want to lynch these three players.

I swear to mod, one of these days someone is going to make a mafia game just to troll me and I'm not going to even notice because that's just what real life is.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

Don't lynch: Colin, 112, Radishes

@juliets we have to resolve this thing. If you are Civ, so am I, then TLib is the one. That's where I'm putting my vote. I have to go no, I am taking the wife to a concert in Buffalo, New York. AJR concert. That's where I'll be, I'll try to look at the thread close to lynch time. [VOTE: TLib] aubergine

Seriously Ignoring all the points on why i AM town.

Fine kill me i could care so much less right now if you guys want to kill me I'll just leave again and self vote seems everything i've done means Nothing.

[juliets]

Don't lynch: Colin, 112, Radishes

@juliets we have to resolve this thing. If you are Civ, so am I, then TLib is the one. That's where I'm putting my vote. I have to go no, I am taking the wife to a concert in Buffalo, New York. AJR concert. That's where I'll be, I'll try to look at the thread close to lynch time. [VOTE: TLib] aubergine

LC, did you read my post about TLib? Just want to know if you read it and still think he's scum.

[juliets]

Don't lynch: Colin, 112, Radishes

@juliets we have to resolve this thing. If you are Civ, so am I, then TLib is the one. That's where I'm putting my vote. I have to go no, I am taking the wife to a concert in Buffalo, New York. AJR concert. That's where I'll be, I'll try to look at the thread close to lynch time. [VOTE: TLib] aubergine

Seriously Ignoring all the points on why i AM town.

Fine kill me i could care so much less right now if you guys want to kill me I'll just leave again and self vote seems everything i've done means Nothing.

Don't do that TLib it's just one vote at this point.

[juliets]

Jack: How bout we all list one player we don't want to lynch?
TL: I do want to lynch one of these three players.
Jack: Okay, that's fine. Let's all lynch three players we do want to lynch.
LC: I don't want to lynch these three players.

I swear to mod, one of these days someone is going to make a mafia game just to troll me and I'm not going to even notice because that's just what real life is.

Haha, and you missed that Radish vetoed 3 people.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

Don't lynch: Colin, 112, Radishes

@juliets we have to resolve this thing. If you are Civ, so am I, then TLib is the one. That's where I'm putting my vote. I have to go no, I am taking the wife to a concert in Buffalo, New York. AJR concert. That's where I'll be, I'll try to look at the thread close to lynch time. [VOTE: TLib] aubergine

Seriously Ignoring all the points on why i AM town.

Fine kill me i could care so much less right now if you guys want to kill me I'll just leave again and self vote seems everything i've done means Nothing.

Don't do that TLib it's just one vote at this point.

Two now afk people voting me yes this happens and makes me a much more likely vote but i won't throw this just makes me that much more either Long Con has completly ignored everything thats happened around me or is wolf

Spoiler: show

[VOTE: Lon Con ] aubergine

[juliets]

Also veto LLD and quin.

Why LLD though?

[juliets]

Sorry [mention]Trustworthy Liberal[/mention] I somehow missed that 112 had voted you.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Okay, new rules since we like lists of three.

(My old roommate would joke that I would always turn my arguments into three pronged ones for emphasis even if I really only had two points to make or put forth three options even there were only two logical ones. Also, three is the strongest number and the best prime role that Sloonei stole from me and I'm still mad about it.)

Everyone picks three players they want to lynch and three they don't. Then I take the top some amount of players picked to lynch, remove the top some amount of players picked to not lynch and then we lynch within the 3 or 4 remaining players.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

Okay, new rules since we like lists of three.

(My old roommate would joke that I would always turn my arguments into three pronged ones for emphasis even if I really only had two points to make or put forth three options even there were only two logical ones. Also, three is the strongest number and the best prime role that Sloonei stole from me and I'm still mad about it.)

Everyone picks three players they want to lynch and three they don't. Then I take the top some amount of players picked to lynch, remove the top some amount of players picked to not lynch and then we lynch within the 3 or 4 remaining players.

I gave my list for this idea already. Hope it helps.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

Sorry @Trustworthy Liberal I somehow missed that 112 had voted you.

not your fault

[juliets]

Don't want to Lynch: Pawn, Jack, Quin

Could lynch: LLD, Long Con, ?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Yes vote: Iaafr, Juliets, LLD
No vote: Radish, Mac, Quin

[juliets]

ugh I also don't want to Lynch TLib

[Jackofhearts2005]

Okay, new rules since we like lists of three.

(My old roommate would joke that I would always turn my arguments into three pronged ones for emphasis even if I really only had two points to make or put forth three options even there were only two logical ones. Also, three is the strongest number and the best prime role that Sloonei stole from me and I'm still mad about it.)

Everyone picks three players they want to lynch and three they don't. Then I take the top some amount of players picked to lynch, remove the top some amount of players picked to not lynch and then we lynch within the 3 or 4 remaining players.

[mention]ColinIsCool[/mention]
I think I forgot you earlier. Sorry.

[juliets]

We need more people here.

[juliets]

I have to be gone for about 45 minutes so be back around 4.

[iaafr]

I mean it's not like we don't get a Lynch even if wagons are split so

[iaafr]

kind of inclined to vote lc to save tl

not sure tho

[Master Radishes]

Also veto LLD and quin.

Why LLD though?

Tells us nothing. Does not advance the game state. Maybe scum but not worth a lynch now.

[iaafr]

Rabbit what you want me to do?

vote radishes or lc or stay on jack idk

what do you want me to do