here BWT seems alarmed that I was getting votes of trust during the Shield vote, tries to couch "baddie" btsc - then backtracks in the same post with a linki after seeing FH's post and claims he leans more civvie for me.
here he again thinks he was wrong on his initial pings and leans civvie for me. Again, this is after MP says that he would be eyeing those who were trying to paint the votes I was getting as "baddie" moves.
here we have a bit more covering the bases "didn't say LT was baddie" and cuddling up to MP.
So, now that we have established that BWT thinks I am a civvie, it perplexes me that he is now pulling out the "she's a baddie" card.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:52 pm
by DharmaHelper
Now that the Council has an Audi R 4 X Tiger.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:53 pm
by birdwithteeth11
LittleTiger wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:Thanks for this, LT. I ended up going back and re-reading that entire day in context and it's given me a whole new light to look through.
>>>>>>snip<<<<<
As I said, I definitely found you being "defensive", but perhaps "over-defensive" was a big strong in terms of word choice, so I apologize for that. I am curious though as to why you didn't bother to bring this up any during Day 2. Is there a reason why?
Again, what about my posts accusing MP were "defensive"? I was the aggressor, not the defendee. So, how could I possibly be in "defensive" mode? It seemed odd to me then and still does. I do believe that I am correct in that you were looking for a place to hide your baddie vote.
Like I said, I thought you were very forceful in terms of how you kept asking MP why we shouldn't look at the non-voters on Day 1. I'm sorry, but I don't know how to make it any clearer than I already have.
Not really. Is there a reason you're completely ignoring the reason I voted for BF in all of this? Because regardless of whether or not you believe it, it is connected into all of this.
birdwithteeth11 wrote:In conclusion, I think this means there are 1 of 2 possibilities with you right now:
1) You are bad, and you are trying to frame me as bad because of my choice of words, and twisting my words against me while ignoring other important things I have said.
2) You are being forced by Skeletor to vote for me. So you went and started trying to build a case against me.
I think that you missed a possibility Neither of those you posit are correct.
Not really. Those are just the two that strike me as the only possibilities.
birdwithteeth11 wrote:If you have any other quotes or aspects of the game you would like me to address, feel free to do so and I will get to them at some point. But this post reeks much more of your overly-emotional and more frustrated side, which traditionally has read as your baddie game to me.
And here you go again. What EXACTLY about my current accusation of YOU is "overly-emotional" and "frustrated"? I think I am being quite cool, calm and collected. You, on the other hand, are sounding like a baddie trying to turn the tables.
I feel like you're being a bit more aggressive than you normally are, which I associate with your "overly-emotional/frustrated" side, which is when I tend to read you as a baddie.
Also, you still haven't answered my question of why you didn't bring this up on Day 2 when it was still much more fresh and you weren't silenced. I am awaiting an answer to that one.
Dom wrote:BWT also might've said something about LT being overly defensive because that's just the reason that she was suspected in Avant Garde 2.... and she was bad. So maybe he was just jumping on something hoping it'd stick?
Why would I go after somebody for something that happened in a previous game? Historical events such as that don't have any bearing on current or future games. Players can change their strategies from game to game.
Linki: I will try to address those other links before I leave for work. But it might not end up being until later this evening.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:53 pm
by Snow Dog
DharmaHelper wrote:Now that the Council has an Audi R 4 X Tiger.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:57 pm
by orsonkidd
I never know WTF DH is posting about. The all seem very non sequitor(sp)
Can any body explain this to me as I am not that bright???
Is he hexed or just plays that way???
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:58 pm
by Tangrowth
It seems pretty evident to me what both LT and BWT's alliances are. BWT's responses trying to paint LT as bad or her vote as Skeletorified, as well as his flip floppyness that strikes me as insincere, and his buddying up to me (like Daisy did) only confirm to me that there is no way BWT is civvie this game. I would be very surprised if he flipped civvie at this point, especially as he has been off the mark for much of the game. I think he would be an excellent lynch candidate today.
I am also wondering what is going with DH. I've been thinking about why he would survive the Slime Pit and be apparently insanified and so upset. Has anyone considered that he may have been compromised? I know being insanified is frustrating, but for some reason I think there may be more to it.
Linki with LT: These are more great examples, thanks for providing these. There is a distinct difference between sinister and sincere 'flip flopping', if you will, and these only confirm further that BWT stinks of baddie. I was hoping I could re-read his posts and a few others' (as well as some or all of the thread) myself but naturally have not yet had time to. This weekend will be full of studying and continuing to play catch up (partially because work is busier all of a sudden), but I hopefully will be able to find and highlight some fishiness from any other players as well.
LittleTiger wrote:I have already said why I think Timmer is Zodac - twice now.
Both baddie teams clearly voted to lynch him.
As for your thought that it is Horde pushing him as being a Horde - entirely possible.
In fact, I would be very interested to hear what BWT thinks about that possibility.
That makes sense, I agree. I just was wondering if you had more reason than that.
blindfaeth wrote:RIPIYWG llama, Vomp, daisy. Like LT, i was leaning civ on llama and suspicious of daisy.
Plus, the fact that Man-E-Faces has the ability to role-check players makes me think that daisy probably was bad. Otherwise, I imagine he would not have NKed her, because it is very dangerous for him (votes on him quadruple), and instead continued to role-check players.
Vomp was def in a grey area for me, I think he's very difficult to read- but if I had to guess, I think he was good. His behavior seemed pretty consistent w/ the recent Sgt. Pepper game we finished not too long ago on this website.
orsonkidd wrote:did i miss the vote? i thought it wasn't over til like nine?
I agree that the evil lynn thing might be explained by the player being moss man, who can't be lynched and that the post read more like that than being modok (sp)
The problem is, Timmer didn't just survive the lynch - someone else got lynched instead of him. Who knows, maybe Timmer didn't switch it himself and somebody else did. But assuming Timmer did it, he couldn't be Teela or He-Man or She-Ra or Moss Man - because they can't make someone else die in their place. At least, that's what I gather. The consensus seems to be he is likely one of the roles with secrets, question is, which one.
MP, why do you trust me?
I trust you because your intentions have continuously read very genuine to me all game. Given the circumstances of Day 1, it's also pretty clear you are very unlikely SM. You could be on The Horde, but my gut doesn't think you are.
blindfaeth wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Wow, lots of death. RIPIYWG to all three. I guess that means we won't know about thellama or Daisy after all. I was leaning civvie on Vompatti, so that's a shame.
And, yeah, it seems DH wasn't lynched. Weird.
The more I think about it the more this post bothers me MP. Man-e-faces has a role check ability and he is a civvie. Why wouldn't daisy be bad?
It's very possible that Man-E-Faces checked Daisy and then killed her. In fact that's probably right. I was thinking that Man-E-Faces tried killing her based off of what was in the thread only, especially since it has only been 3 nights so far. So if Man-E-Faces did check her, that would mean he must have rolechecked her AND killed her with both the 60 and 40% chances working.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:59 pm
by Snow Dog
orsonkidd wrote:I never know WTF DH is posting about. The all seem very non sequitor(sp)
Can any body explain this to me as I am not that bright???
Is he hexed or just plays that way???
Seems to be ever since he was in the slime pit.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:02 pm
by LittleTiger
In answer to your question, BWT, I have been observing... and felt now was the time to make my case against you. I usually like to bide my time a bit with suspicions.
Also, there you go again trying to paint me with the emotional brush.
Let us be clear here, I am the one doing the accusing
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:05 pm
by LittleTiger
Oh, one more thing - BWT - you chose Stridor during Day 0. Did you ever tell us what location you picked to learn about?
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:59 pm
by LittleTiger
Hmmm..... I have been trying to figure out what is up with DH and found this reference to the Slime Pit in the wikia http://he-man.wikia.com/wiki/Slime_Pit
The original Slime Pit belongs to the Evil Horde, it is a dinosaur skull-shaped device and a claw, which Hordak uses to trap Eternian Warriors inside it. The dinosaur head then tips forward to coat its unfortunate victim with slime.
In the MOTU universe, the effect of the slime transforms everyone covered by it into a lumbering, mindless slime-monster, stripped of their own free will, and instead carrying out Hordak's evil bidding. .....
The Slime Pit playset was packaged with the customary mini-comic Escape from the Slime Pit!, in which He-Man himself is captured by Hordak and trapped inside the Slime Pit to be transformed into a slime-monster, but the Rock People manage to help He-Man regain his own free will.
Prince Adam is also captured by the Horde and slimed by Hordak in a Star Comics story; The Garden Of Evil, but this time Orko comes to Prince Adam's aid by returning the Sword of Power to him.
In an MOTU Kids Stuff read-a-long audio book; Prisoner In The Slime Pit, Hordak schemes to lure He-Man into the Slime Pit again by sending two Horde Troopers to steal the Great Book of Wisdom from Castle Grayskull. In the end, He-Man recovers the book and Hordak ends up taking a dip in his own Slime Pit.
Unusually, the MOTU character most depicted being slimed on the toy's packaging is Beast-Man, indicating that Hordak not only uses the Slime Pit on the Heroic Warriors, but on the Evil Warriors as well, since the Evil Warriors' leader, Skeletor, is also Hordak's adversary.
So, based on this and the Host Post, it would seem that DH has possibly been captured by the Horde! So, perhaps there is a way for him to be saved?
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:22 pm
by blindfaeth
That particular bit about "carrying out Hordak's evil bidding" was particularly alarming
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:40 pm
by DharmaHelper
Distinctemen lemon, using music and know natural is a small bonus
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:44 pm
by Snow Dog
DharmaHelper wrote:Distinctemen lemon, using music and know natural is a small bonus
So what's up? How can we help you? Are you a Horde puppet?
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:14 pm
by DharmaHelper
In any case, happy good things and puppet.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:19 pm
by Snow Dog
DharmaHelper wrote:In any case, happy good things and puppet.
Anyway.....great stuff......puppet?
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:21 pm
by LittleTiger
DH - is there a way for us to help rescue you?
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:24 pm
by Snow Dog
^Already asked that.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:28 pm
by DharmaHelper
Now night, until his death. The boy's father, however, is a woman. There are some tasty and dead. The sword of darkness: cold fire wall picture; See § make sure to include øå is simple and intuitive. Every tree that night. This standard.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:47 pm
by LittleTiger
Okay..... I think I catch the drift of this. Off to research ...
The only way to stop the political inequality and can lead to errors in the Valley, often you can find models turage. YouTube and my brother and sister are very good.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:30 pm
by DFaraday
MovingPictures07 wrote:It seems pretty evident to me what both LT and BWT's alliances are. BWT's responses trying to paint LT as bad or her vote as Skeletorified, as well as his flip floppyness that strikes me as insincere, and his buddying up to me (like Daisy did) only confirm to me that there is no way BWT is civvie this game. I would be very surprised if he flipped civvie at this point, especially as he has been off the mark for much of the game. I think he would be an excellent lynch candidate today.
I am also wondering what is going with DH. I've been thinking about why he would survive the Slime Pit and be apparently insanified and so upset. Has anyone considered that he may have been compromised? I know being insanified is frustrating, but for some reason I think there may be more to it.
Linki with LT: These are more great examples, thanks for providing these. There is a distinct difference between sinister and sincere 'flip flopping', if you will, and these only confirm further that BWT stinks of baddie. I was hoping I could re-read his posts and a few others' (as well as some or all of the thread) myself but naturally have not yet had time to. This weekend will be full of studying and continuing to play catch up (partially because work is busier all of a sudden), but I hopefully will be able to find and highlight some fishiness from any other players as well.
I'm glad other people have noticed BWT's flip-floppiness. To me he seems to just try to go along with whatever is the prevailing opinion at the moment, flying under the radar. He posts a lot, but it's almost always a parroting of what the most vocal players have said. I couldn't call him out on this yesterday for obvious reasons, but he's been mildly pinging me for a couple days now.
As for LT, I'm not sure why you say her alignment is obvious. She seems fairly ambiguous to me, as usual. Am I missing something?
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:35 pm
by Epignosis
DharmaHelper wrote:Now night, until his death. The boy's father, however, is a woman. There are some tasty and dead. The sword of darkness: cold fire wall picture; See § make sure to include øå is simple and intuitive. Every tree that night. This standard.
Hate to break the fourth wall here, but this is poetry.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:37 pm
by LittleTiger
DharmaHelper wrote:Distinctemen lemon, using music and know natural is a small bonus
DharmaHelper wrote:Now night, until his death. The boy's father, however, is a woman. There are some tasty and dead. The sword of darkness: cold fire wall picture; See § make sure to include øå is simple and intuitive. Every tree that night. This standard.
I did look where I thought you were directing. Which is how I came to the sword.
But..
DharmaHelper wrote:The only way to stop the political inequality and can lead to errors in the Valley, often you can find models turage. YouTube and my brother and sister are very good.
So, some kind of music video????
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:44 pm
by LittleTiger
Let's try this:
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:51 pm
by DharmaHelper
If you want to create a great bathroom.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:56 pm
by Snow Dog
This is brilliant.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:58 pm
by LittleTiger
DharmaHelper wrote:If you want to create a great bathroom.
Well, I tried...
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:19 pm
by blindfaeth
what if we tried a video with the power sword? the obvious being a he-man transformation video
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:15 pm
by birdwithteeth11
LittleTiger wrote:Here is more confusion:
here BWT seems alarmed that I was getting votes of trust during the Shield vote, tries to couch "baddie" btsc - then backtracks in the same post with a linki after seeing FH's post and claims he leans more civvie for me.
I said "idk if it's civvie or baddie" BTSC and that all the votes for you were "making me a bit nervous". That doesn't necessarily mean that you were automatically. I mentioned it was one of the possibilities, certainly, but there's other reasons besides you just being bad.
here he again thinks he was wrong on his initial pings and leans civvie for me. Again, this is after MP says that he would be eyeing those who were trying to paint the votes I was getting as "baddie" moves.
Idk. I still see that as me clarifying why I was looking in your direction. But at the same time, I felt I was starting to misread my....emotional interpretations of you (for lack of a better term).
here we have a bit more covering the bases "didn't say LT was baddie" and cuddling up to MP.
I still, even up to that point, did not say anything that directly correlates to me calling you out as bad. I have suggested that you have pinged me at times, that you could have BTSC (either civvie or baddie), but I have NOT said you were bad.
So, now that we have established that BWT thinks I am a civvie, it perplexes me that he is now pulling out the "she's a baddie" card.
I'm still waiting for an answer to my question: Why did you not bring this up at all during Day 2? You had ample time to do so then, which is why I think you're vote is honestly being manipulated by Skeletor right now.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:24 pm
by birdwithteeth11
MovingPictures07 wrote:It seems pretty evident to me what both LT and BWT's alliances are. BWT's responses trying to paint LT as bad or her vote as Skeletorified, as well as his flip floppyness that strikes me as insincere, and his buddying up to me (like Daisy did) only confirm to me that there is no way BWT is civvie this game. I would be very surprised if he flipped civvie at this point, especially as he has been off the mark for much of the game. I think he would be an excellent lynch candidate today.
~Le snip~
Linki with LT: These are more great examples, thanks for providing these. There is a distinct difference between sinister and sincere 'flip flopping', if you will, and these only confirm further that BWT stinks of baddie. I was hoping I could re-read his posts and a few others' (as well as some or all of the thread) myself but naturally have not yet had time to. This weekend will be full of studying and continuing to play catch up (partially because work is busier all of a sudden), but I hopefully will be able to find and highlight some fishiness from any other players as well.
You're going down this route too?
The first part, I really don't know what else you expect me to counter with right now. I've already said my bit on that, so unless there are additional points you wish to make, then I'm done for now.
As to the second part, how is it that what I'm doing is sinister 'flip flopping' vs. sincere 'flip flopping'? Could you clarify your reasoning on that a bit?
Did I have an initial opinion of LT? Yes. Did I change my mind on LT several times through this game so far? Yes. Could some people interpret this as flip-flopping? I could understand that, sure. Would some people even desire to vote for me and/or see me lynched because of it? It wouldn't surprise me.
Yes, I might have dug myself into a corner. But I'm not going to let people sit there and make insinuations off things I never said or try to sit there and twist my words against me.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:29 pm
by LittleTiger
birdwithteeth11 wrote:
LittleTiger wrote:Here is more confusion:
here BWT seems alarmed that I was getting votes of trust during the Shield vote, tries to couch "baddie" btsc - then backtracks in the same post with a linki after seeing FH's post and claims he leans more civvie for me.
I said "idk if it's civvie or baddie" BTSC and that all the votes for you were "making me a bit nervous". That doesn't necessarily mean that you were automatically. I mentioned it was one of the possibilities, certainly, but there's other reasons besides you just being bad.
here he again thinks he was wrong on his initial pings and leans civvie for me. Again, this is after MP says that he would be eyeing those who were trying to paint the votes I was getting as "baddie" moves.
Idk. I still see that as me clarifying why I was looking in your direction. But at the same time, I felt I was starting to misread my....emotional interpretations of you (for lack of a better term).
here we have a bit more covering the bases "didn't say LT was baddie" and cuddling up to MP.
I still, even up to that point, did not say anything that directly correlates to me calling you out as bad. I have suggested that you have pinged me at times, that you could have BTSC (either civvie or baddie), but I have NOT said you were bad.
So, now that we have established that BWT thinks I am a civvie, it perplexes me that he is now pulling out the "she's a baddie" card.
I'm still waiting for an answer to my question: Why did you not bring this up at all during Day 2? You had ample time to do so then, which is why I think you're vote is honestly being manipulated by Skeletor right now.
You have consistently tried to portray me as being "emotional", "defensive" and "baddie". Even in your earlier answers today. When someone says something about it, then you flip to "civvie". So, which is it?
My vote is not being manipulated, in any way.
I did answer you:
LittleTiger wrote:In answer to your question, BWT, I have been observing... and felt now was the time to make my case against you. I usually like to bide my time a bit with suspicions.
Also, there you go again trying to paint me with the emotional brush.
Let us be clear here, I am the one doing the accusing
I also asked you this:
LittleTiger wrote:Oh, one more thing - BWT - you chose Stridor during Day 0. Did you ever tell us what location you picked to learn about?
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:32 pm
by blindfaeth
It seems like it is still really unusually quiet. I am going to scope out who hasn't posted since the day started. We aren't silenced by the spiders anymore, people :P
AceofSpaces
Ishar Morrad Chuain
juliets (replaced reptaronice on Day 3)
reywaS
>SpaghettiEverywhere
Stormcrow (replaced JJLehto on Day 3)
the_untamed (replaced KeaponLaffin05 on Day 3)
I didn't notice any of the above mentioned having posted since the Day started but I might have missed someone. I'm surprised in particular we haven't heard from rey, ace or juliets, i know I've seen at least ace & juliets post in the RM gotham city game. And I think I've seen juliets lurking-
Linki w/ BWT & LT
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:35 pm
by blindfaeth
If any of you are silenced by Orko don't say anything
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:41 pm
by Tangrowth
DFaraday wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:It seems pretty evident to me what both LT and BWT's alliances are. BWT's responses trying to paint LT as bad or her vote as Skeletorified, as well as his flip floppyness that strikes me as insincere, and his buddying up to me (like Daisy did) only confirm to me that there is no way BWT is civvie this game. I would be very surprised if he flipped civvie at this point, especially as he has been off the mark for much of the game. I think he would be an excellent lynch candidate today.
I am also wondering what is going with DH. I've been thinking about why he would survive the Slime Pit and be apparently insanified and so upset. Has anyone considered that he may have been compromised? I know being insanified is frustrating, but for some reason I think there may be more to it.
Linki with LT: These are more great examples, thanks for providing these. There is a distinct difference between sinister and sincere 'flip flopping', if you will, and these only confirm further that BWT stinks of baddie. I was hoping I could re-read his posts and a few others' (as well as some or all of the thread) myself but naturally have not yet had time to. This weekend will be full of studying and continuing to play catch up (partially because work is busier all of a sudden), but I hopefully will be able to find and highlight some fishiness from any other players as well.
I'm glad other people have noticed BWT's flip-floppiness. To me he seems to just try to go along with whatever is the prevailing opinion at the moment, flying under the radar. He posts a lot, but it's almost always a parroting of what the most vocal players have said. I couldn't call him out on this yesterday for obvious reasons, but he's been mildly pinging me for a couple days now.
As for LT, I'm not sure why you say her alignment is obvious. She seems fairly ambiguous to me, as usual. Am I missing something?
Go back and read the thread. You'll see. I would say more, but I don't want to draw unnecessary attention to anything other than what I've already said.
Needless to say, I'll eat my hat if she is baddie this game. There's no way.
birdwithteeth11 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:It seems pretty evident to me what both LT and BWT's alliances are. BWT's responses trying to paint LT as bad or her vote as Skeletorified, as well as his flip floppyness that strikes me as insincere, and his buddying up to me (like Daisy did) only confirm to me that there is no way BWT is civvie this game. I would be very surprised if he flipped civvie at this point, especially as he has been off the mark for much of the game. I think he would be an excellent lynch candidate today.
~Le snip~
Linki with LT: These are more great examples, thanks for providing these. There is a distinct difference between sinister and sincere 'flip flopping', if you will, and these only confirm further that BWT stinks of baddie. I was hoping I could re-read his posts and a few others' (as well as some or all of the thread) myself but naturally have not yet had time to. This weekend will be full of studying and continuing to play catch up (partially because work is busier all of a sudden), but I hopefully will be able to find and highlight some fishiness from any other players as well.
You're going down this route too?
The first part, I really don't know what else you expect me to counter with right now. I've already said my bit on that, so unless there are additional points you wish to make, then I'm done for now.
As to the second part, how is it that what I'm doing is sinister 'flip flopping' vs. sincere 'flip flopping'? Could you clarify your reasoning on that a bit?
Did I have an initial opinion of LT? Yes. Did I change my mind on LT several times through this game so far? Yes. Could some people interpret this as flip-flopping? I could understand that, sure. Would some people even desire to vote for me and/or see me lynched because of it? It wouldn't surprise me.
Yes, I might have dug myself into a corner. But I'm not going to let people sit there and make insinuations off things I never said or try to sit there and twist my words against me.
Are you serious? I've said I've been reading you as bad for quite a long time now, way before it was cool and LT decided to. Lol.
You're flip flopping because you don't actually care as long as someone other than you or whoever is on your team survives. It's different than someone sincerely trying his or her best to flesh our baddies. You've flipped on LT, tried to buddy up to me, and you've even flip flopped on other things such as timmer. A civvie BWT wouldn't be posting the way you have. Not at all. If you really need more examples, I am planning on looking through your posts tonight since I have a bit of time.
Also, the bolded seems like a confession of baddie guilt to me.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:45 pm
by Tangrowth
blindfaeth wrote:It seems like it is still really unusually quiet. I am going to scope out who hasn't posted since the day started. We aren't silenced by the spiders anymore, people :P
AceofSpaces
Ishar Morrad Chuain
juliets (replaced reptaronice on Day 3)
reywaS
>SpaghettiEverywhere
Stormcrow (replaced JJLehto on Day 3)
the_untamed (replaced KeaponLaffin05 on Day 3)
I didn't notice any of the above mentioned having posted since the Day started but I might have missed someone. I'm surprised in particular we haven't heard from rey, ace or juliets, i know I've seen at least ace & juliets post in the RM gotham city game. And I think I've seen juliets lurking-
Linki w/ BWT & LT
Agreed with this. I really want to hear more from especially those you've listed here. I thought the back and forth between He-Man and SE was really interesting the other day; I've never seen SE into a game that much to this day, so I'd like to see what he thinks about BWT and anything else as well.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:57 pm
by birdwithteeth11
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Are you serious? I've said I've been reading you as bad for quite a long time now, way before it was cool and LT decided to. Lol.
You're flip flopping because you don't actually care as long as someone other than you or whoever is on your team survives. It's different than someone sincerely trying his or her best to flesh our baddies. You've flipped on LT, tried to buddy up to me, and you've even flip flopped on other things such as timmer. A civvie BWT wouldn't be posting the way you have. Not at all. If you really need more examples, I am planning on looking through your posts tonight since I have a bit of time.
Also, the bolded seems like a confession of baddie guilt to me.
Well aren't you just a damn hipster? :P
My opinion has changed on certain people throughout this game, yes. LT and Timmer included (and didn't you end up changing your feelings on timmer at one point as well?). I'm sorry if you perceive that as flip-flopping, but I do not.
A civvie BWT would keep fighting until the very end, whereas a baddie BWT would have given up well before this stage. Until a day post comes along that says I've actually been lynched, I will continue to fight for my life.
Give me a moment, and I'll come back with a few names and reasons of people I find suspicious.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:02 pm
by Tangrowth
Woah, BWT's posts really tell a story. He was all about LT and Boomslang on Day 1 but ended up voting BF out of nowhere. I kind of forgot about that. Then he mentions my suspicion of He-Man and says He-Man is pingy all of a sudden then as well.
Then of course he tried to cast doubt on the LT voters during the shield poll, after a few others had already speculated previous to him. Then he flips when I ask him and says he thinks it's more likely he thinks LT has civvie BTSC. He votes Kate on Day 3 after not mentioning her previously. And he constantly says he will pull quotes/re-read/etc. but then never ends up doing it. I mean, I understand being busy, but everything taken together in his posts seriously paints a picture. A picture of baddieness.
It's really strange. He very often says something, and then when someone questions him, he backpedals and says nearly the exact opposite. He's been doing that all game.
Linki with BWT: I appreciate your effort to defend yourself, but I'll be shocked if you flip civvie this game, sorry. That being said, I more than welcome to hear your thoughts.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:03 pm
by Tangrowth
And yes, to answer your question, I am a god damn hipster. I just want four walls and adobe slabs... 4 MAH GURLS
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:08 pm
by Tangrowth
And with regards to DH, so what the hell do we do? It seems he has definitely been compromised based on what LT uncovered from the wiki.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:20 pm
by birdwithteeth11
Alright. Here's some people I would be willing to consider looking at for lynching today.
DP: Normally, when he is civvie, it takes him a few days to get going. But once he starts to pick up on certain ideas, he tends to run with them. Any game where he is this quiet tends to concern me greatly. So I highly doubt he is a civvie.
He-Man: He seems to be have been all over the map with a lot of people this game (and here I thought I was the one who was doing that :P) Go back and re-read the back and forth between him and >Spaghetti. That to me is not the mark of someone who is a civvie.
DH: Given the extra info that's been uncovered on the Slime Pit, it sounds like DH might be compromised. We may have to get rid of him if he's really just become another tool of The Horde.
Dom: He's spent a good amount of time going after Snow Dog for pulling the "I'm still new to mafia" card. But I really don't remember him saying anything else of value. Might be worth to read up on him sometime tomorrow before I vote.
In no particular order, those are probably my top 4 candidates for tomorrow.
Linki @ MP: I have not been backpedaling this entire game. I said I have changed my opinions on certain people based on new evidence that comes to light. If you want to call that backpedaling, then that is your decision.
I also gave my reason for voting Kate. Did you miss it?
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:24 pm
by Tangrowth
Thanks, thoughts appreciated, though taken with a grain of salt. That being said, I keep wondering about DP myself, I do hope he contributes more. I didn't miss your reason for voting, Kate, though, I was saying you really didn't mention her previously regardless.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:36 pm
by LittleTiger
I think we should attempt to figure out how to release DH rather than hang him!
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:41 pm
by Tangrowth
LittleTiger wrote:I think we should attempt to figure out how to release DH rather than hang him!
I would agree with this... Except I don't.
In fact, I think I am voting DH. I think we need to lynch him today to release him.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:49 pm
by LittleTiger
MovingPictures07 wrote:
LittleTiger wrote:I think we should attempt to figure out how to release DH rather than hang him!
I would agree with this... Except I don't.
In fact, I think I am voting DH. I think we need to lynch him today to release him.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:50 pm
by birdwithteeth11
MovingPictures07 wrote:
LittleTiger wrote:I think we should attempt to figure out how to release DH rather than hang him!
I would agree with this... Except I don't.
In fact, I think I am voting DH. I think we need to lynch him today to release him.
Uhhhhhhhh......WHAT?!
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:51 pm
by Tangrowth
You heard me, I stand by that assessment.
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:52 pm
by LittleTiger
So, no discussion... just BOOM... slap a vote on DH and declare THAT to be the way to release him?
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:55 pm
by blindfaeth
Except that I think DH was trying to explain to LT how he could be helped & I didn't see any hints of "kill" or "lynch"
Re: [Day 4] Masters of the Universe Mafia
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:56 pm
by LittleTiger
In fact, I would think it more beneficial to try to figure out who Hordak is and lynch that bastard! Surely getting rid of the slave master would end the slavery? I mean, if you are going to just throw out the killing of DH based on... um... I don't know what?? The rest of us can discuss, I guess.
I have to say, that really took me by complete surprise, MP.
I am strongly leaning towards lynching BWT today, in case that wasn't obvious by now