The Syndicate

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:25 pm**

WHO WANTS THE ZEBRA STICK

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:32 pm**

The Man Who Turned Into A Stick (棒になった男 – Bō ni natta otoko) is a one-act play written in 1957 by Kōbō Abe.

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:32 pm**

a2thezebra wrote:This is civ sig all the way.

How do I know?

Because I'm reading him as bad and I've literally never been right about him.

seems legit

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:38 pm**

Quin wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:This is civ sig all the way.

How do I know?

Because I'm reading him as bad and I've literally never been right about him.
seems legit

I see your alignment hasn't changed.

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:41 pm**

a2thezebra wrote:
Quin wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:This is civ sig all the way.

How do I know?

Because I'm reading him as bad and I've literally never been right about him.
seems legit
I see your alignment hasn't changed.

neither have my underpants

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:42 pm**

Quin wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Quin wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:This is civ sig all the way.

How do I know?

Because I'm reading him as bad and I've literally never been right about him.
seems legit
I see your alignment hasn't changed.
neither have my underpants

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:43 pm**

a2thezebra wrote:
Quin wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Quin wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:This is civ sig all the way.

How do I know?

Because I'm reading him as bad and I've literally never been right about him.
seems legit
I see your alignment hasn't changed.
neither have my underpants

why am i bad, zebra?

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:44 pm**

Quin wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Quin wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Quin wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:This is civ sig all the way.

How do I know?

Because I'm reading him as bad and I've literally never been right about him.
seems legit
I see your alignment hasn't changed.
neither have my underpants

why am i bad, zebra?

Have you SEEN your post history?

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:45 pm**

a2thezebra wrote:
Quin wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Quin wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Quin wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:This is civ sig all the way.

How do I know?

Because I'm reading him as bad and I've literally never been right about him.
seems legit
I see your alignment hasn't changed.
neither have my underpants

why am i bad, zebra?
Have you SEEN your post history?

I don't generally ISO myself, so unfortunately not.

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:48 pm**

These posts in particular are hilariously fake, particularly the underlined portions:

Quin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Quin wrote:A rainbow list for MP and I to have a chat about later . Most of these are substantiated and would ideally do with a more in depth ISO. No specific order, other than the obvious.

Nachomamma8

Boomslang
MovingPictures07
Elohcin/motel room 2.0
Scotty
metalmarsh89
DrWilgy
MacDougall

Vompatti
DFaraday
Snow Dog
nijuukyougou

Black Rock
Soneji
a2thezebra
Epignosis
sig
Long Con

@linki - I was just about to do the same thing before I went to bed. Voted sig.
Oooooh, a shiny rainbow, I love it! How the hell is Nacho still ahead of me? What do I have to do for you people?

I need to continue my ISO assessments this morning (they will have to wait until after teaching though), so some of these players I don't have super firm reads on. But we have some cognitive dissonance. Why slight town on MM and Wilgy? What did you think of my crappy Wilgy ISO? Why is Snow Dog a null (right?) read? I have more questions but I'll leave it at that for now.
Admittedly I might be overestimating my read of Nacho. I'm sure I've mentioned it before, but his approach to the game has checked all of the townie boxes so far. His approach is a lot like mine, too - and I feel like it's more likely to be genuine going off of that.

I'm not going to make something out of Wilgy's 'I won't check my rolecard' thing which most people seem to be interpreting in a bad way, because I know the act of opening with some sort of gambit is more likely to just be a non-indicative thing. It might seem contradictory, but I'm also town-reading Wilgy based on his 'I haven't checked my role card' gambit. What I like is, specifically, the 'thing' he chose as his gambit. Suggesting he hasn't read his role card is a load of bs, there's no way he hasn't, because I don't think he's the kind of person to screw over his team for the sake of a joke, and I think he'd have chosen a less self-incriminating meme if he were bad. I haven't read your Wilgy ISO unfortunately, I will at some point when my face doesn't hurt so bad and I'll give you my thoughts then.

As for the marmot, it was a read mostly based on tone. I don't think his Black Rock vote looked bad, though - if he's bad, I don't think they're teammates at least. The lynch could have gone either way at that point, and he only tied it up, not put her in the lead.

Snow Dog was a bit of an afterthought when I made this, it just got so late. I don't feel confident putting him as a null read, since he's one of the most active posters. He deserves more attention than I've given him.

I'm mostly curious about your moderate town read for Long Con. I'll wait on your ISO before I comment further, though.

Lay more questions on me. I find in my current situation I'll be best motivated to participate when I've got someone expecting things from me.

Quin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Quin wrote:I would vote for either sig or Epignosis today, but I'm still interested in hearing more from sig so I'll abstain from actually voting for a bit longer.
Let's talk. Initially I'm feeling kinda better about sig based on his recent contributions, but again, I need to dig through his content in detail. (gonna start that now)

Why those two? Any thoughts on the others?
My reason for suspecting sig kind of lines up with what I've discussed with you, and my Epi suspicion rests on his approach to the 'let's cull the inactives' mindset.

motel room came back in strong, and I already had a civ tone-read on Eloh, so I could shade him as a light green read. Same to you - but I'm perhaps slightly hesitant because of your supposed record involving emotional appeals/outbursts. Nacho is my strongest town read. I like that he's come out swinging from the get-go even though he's in an unfamiliar environment.

You reek of mafia amigo.

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:50 pm**

You're way too apologetic about your reads, feeling the need to preface each one of them with a disclaimer and insert unnecessary footnotes to clarify things that are already apparent. You seem like a baddie that's going out of his way to appear town, but you lack town boldness.

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:50 pm**

At this moment, I am uninterested in a lynch of zebra, Snow Dog or Soneji.

Or Vompatti. I'll throw him in there too.

The reasoning used to vote for any of these people is terrible.

That isn't to say I think they are good- I'm only saying damn people. Do better. Like me.

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:51 pm**

you probably need to elaborate on why those specific parts are suspicious if you want to get your point across, amigo

linki: i don't do unnecessary.

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:53 pm**

Come on Epi you know there's good reasons to vote for Snow Dog and Soneji. And even me for those that don't know me as well lol

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:53 pm**

Epignosis wrote:At this moment, I am uninterested in a lynch of zebra, Snow Dog or Soneji.

Or Vompatti. I'll throw him in there too.

The reasoning used to vote for any of these people is terrible.

That isn't to say I think they are good- I'm only saying damn people. Do better. Like me.

I am glad there is still some integrity left in the world.

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:54 pm**

Quin wrote:you probably need to elaborate on why those specific parts are suspicious if you want to get your point across, amigo

linki: i don't do unnecessary.

Are you sure because this post that I'm quoting here is unnecessary.

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:55 pm**

Asking me for elaboration is futile.

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:55 pm**

I operate within the boundaries of the gut and nothing else.

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:55 pm**

I'll be back later.

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:56 pm**

a2thezebra wrote:You're way too apologetic about your reads, feeling the need to preface each one of them with a disclaimer and insert unnecessary footnotes to clarify things that are already apparent. You seem like a baddie that's going out of his way to appear town, but you lack town boldness.

You were bad with him in Mad Max - was he doing those things?

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:56 pm**

a2thezebra wrote:
Quin wrote:you probably need to elaborate on why those specific parts are suspicious if you want to get your point across, amigo

linki: i don't do unnecessary.
Are you sure because this post that I'm quoting here is unnecessary.

looks like your ideal world in one where your word is unquestioned and treated as gospel

which doesn't sound so bad, if only you weren't so wrong all the time

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:57 pm**

motel room wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:You're way too apologetic about your reads, feeling the need to preface each one of them with a disclaimer and insert unnecessary footnotes to clarify things that are already apparent. You seem like a baddie that's going out of his way to appear town, but you lack town boldness.
You were bad with him in Mad Max - was he doing those things?

A thousand times yes, and it was fooling just about everyone.

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:57 pm**

Quin wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Quin wrote:you probably need to elaborate on why those specific parts are suspicious if you want to get your point across, amigo

linki: i don't do unnecessary.
Are you sure because this post that I'm quoting here is unnecessary.
looks like your ideal world in one where your word is unquestioned and treated as gospel

which doesn't sound so bad, if only you weren't so wrong all the time

Where did I ask people to believe me or agree with me? I could care less. But sure continue to misrepresent me and dig your own grave.

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:58 pm**

Actually going now.

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:58 pm**

better question: is what you're perceiving as 'being apologetic with my reads' (which is wrong, but whatever) a strictly scum-quin trait?

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:59 pm**

a2thezebra wrote:
Quin wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Quin wrote:you probably need to elaborate on why those specific parts are suspicious if you want to get your point across, amigo

linki: i don't do unnecessary.
Are you sure because this post that I'm quoting here is unnecessary.
looks like your ideal world in one where your word is unquestioned and treated as gospel

which doesn't sound so bad, if only you weren't so wrong all the time
Where did I ask people to believe me or agree with me? I could care less. But sure continue to misrepresent me and dig your own grave.

the two or three times you neglected to elaborate on your quin/snow dog suspicion comes to mind

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:01 pm**

i think zebra is town btw haha lol

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:21 pm**

cool story bro

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:23 pm**

Friggin' Thanksgiving travel. I'll take a look at this stuff tomorrow morning. Brain not in place to rational thought.

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:24 pm**

I'm going to be blunt. None of your conversations are useful in finding mafia. None.

Get thee behind me Satans.

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:35 pm**

Scotty wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Y'know what...

I still think mp was bad.
I do too.
To both of you: why.

And how does that help you sort things out right now?

His vague rainbow early game. It was non-committal.

It doesn't help.

Marmot/Epi, imma vote for Boomslang soon. Will you use your voucher to have me vote elsewhere?

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:44 pm**

a2thezebra wrote:
Scotty wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Y'know what...

I still think mp was bad.
I do too.
To both of you: why.

And how does that help you sort things out right now?
MP gave me a soft baddie read. If he was civ, he would have given me a hard baddie read at the time. He was disingenuous and bad.

Who cares? If you're not going to figure out who his teammates are, then who gives a shit if you're calling him bad. He's dead.

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:46 pm**

DrWilgy wrote:
Scotty wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Y'know what...

I still think mp was bad.
I do too.
To both of you: why.

And how does that help you sort things out right now?
His vague rainbow early game. It was non-committal.

It doesn't help.

Marmot/Epi, imma vote for Boomslang soon. Will you use your voucher to have me vote elsewhere?

No. Vote where you will, Willllllgy.

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:51 pm**

Epignosis wrote:I'm going to be blunt. None of your conversations are useful in finding mafia. None.

Get thee behind me Satans.

Is this because the objectively best method to find mafia is to randomize at every lynch?

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:53 pm**

Vompatti wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I'm going to be blunt. None of your conversations are useful in finding mafia. None.

Get thee behind me Satans.
Is this because the objectively best method to find mafia is to randomize at every lynch?

Not quite. A random vote, you see, invites a higher level of chance into your decision. Mafia requires you to discern who is good and who is bad, so an optimal vote involves critical thinking and observation.

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:55 pm**

Long Con had little to say regarding Black Rock when she was under fire. That's concerning, but not alarming.

Posted: **Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:58 pm**

I intended to catch up tonight, but I forgot how stupid exhausting driving for hours is. I will do catch up and posting sometime tomorrow when I'm not cooking/socializing.

Posted: **Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:07 am**

nijuukyugou wrote:I intended to catch up tonight, but I forgot how stupid exhausting driving for hours is. I will do catch up and posting sometime tomorrow when I'm not cooking/socializing.

This sounds like a PM misser.

Posted: **Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:11 am**

The names on the poll look like a man with a hat and large shoes. Seriously. Cool stuff.

Posted: **Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:14 am**

Epignosis wrote:The names on the poll look like a man with a hat and large shoes. Seriously. Cool stuff.

You are tired. However, that man has some fashionable red-topped shoes!

It shouldn't surprise you that I spoke little of BR, that's literally always the way I play the early game with her.

Posted: **Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:15 am**

I'm an hour from heading off for four days on a drunken beachy road trip along the VIC\NSW coast. I just bought a bodyboard that has a squid on it for cheap. I'll do my best to stay relevant but reception may be tricky.

Leaning towards voting Soneji.

Posted: **Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:45 am**

Soneji wrote:Scotty you are aware that there are two scum teams right? Even if I was part of one and killed MP, I wouldn't know if he was town or part of the other scum team. Promoting MP as town wouldn't be in my best interest either, given my suspicion on him d2.

This doesn't have anything to do with my assertion. I'm saying you slipped- that you would be more likely to call Mp town if he was your kill than if he wasnt.

Soneji, who would you have killed if you had to pick someone that was alive day 2?

Epignosis wrote:I'm going to be blunt. None of your conversations are useful in finding mafia. None.

Get thee behind me Satans.

Thank you very little for failing to answer my question.

But tell me, Epi. What constitutes "useful"? I think it's all useful. It's people interacting with one another.

Epignosis wrote:At this moment, I am uninterested in a lynch of zebra, Snow Dog or Soneji.

Or Vompatti. I'll throw him in there too.

The reasoning used to vote for any of these people is terrible.

That isn't to say I think they are good- I'm only saying damn people. Do better. Like me. [/quote
What is this post?

What made your case on Black rock any more sound than, say, Soneji? If you recall, Soneji did not post on Night 1. Neither did Black rock. You were SO ready to commit a vote to BR that I'm surprised, now that we've caught her, that you wouldn't find similar parallels in at least Soneji. What aren't you telling us, O wise one?

Posted: **Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:49 am**

For the rest atm, I think Epi looks town but something feels strange about his mafia guru act. I haven't seen him chest-puffing like that before. But he got results.

I think quin is ok, he seems less intense than last game where he ended up bad.

Mac being quiet means he's not engaging with the game which I think he would be doing more if he was bad. Like 60-40 split on that view cos he could just have a life.

I get driftwood scum vibes from soneji. That ninjagoku guy too, but smilier.

Long Con is composed and you could argue is trying to buddy Epi.

I think zebra is good right now. I buy her conviction on stuff.

Vompatti's whole gimmick is what he's doing right now yeah?

Sig I could still see flipping bad.

I would laugh if nachomum is having trouble maintaining the supertown act as scum after that gung-ho day 1 lynch campaign.

uh

linki - oh yeah, I still think scotty is likely good.

Posted: **Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:51 am**

Thats some stuff. Anyone have questions before I go off the grid for a bit?

Posted: **Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:57 am**

motel room wrote:Speaking of
Soneji wrote:Zebra has had a very narrow focus this game, without giving anything to backup these reads and trolling/harassing people. His aim seems to be to distract, which as LC noted he wasn't doing d1 when the two main suspects were MP and motel room, both town.
How do you know MP was town?

I think a civ would be more likely to make this mistake.

Posted: **Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:04 am**

Epignosis wrote:At this moment, I am uninterested in a lynch of zebra, Snow Dog or Soneji.

Or Vompatti. I'll throw him in there too.

The reasoning used to vote for any of these people is terrible.

That isn't to say I think they are good- I'm only saying damn people. Do better. Like me.

I agree on the first three.

I actually suspect Vompatti a bit though. His sudden vote for Soneji after motel room's question to him; I don't think motel room had any reason there to suspect Soneji, yet Vomps jumped on it.

Posted: **Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:47 am**

Metalmarsh mate. Tell me how you feel mate.

Posted: **Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:42 am**

Epignosis wrote:The names on the poll look like a man with a hat and large shoes. Seriously. Cool stuff.

And a beer gut. Don't forget the beer gut.

Posted: **Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:00 am**

motel room wrote:Thats some stuff. Anyone have questions before I go off the grid for a bit?

Hang on, you're an actual Aussie?

God speed, my friend

Posted: **Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:26 am**

I voted sig.

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