The Syndicate

speedchuck wrote:Or it might be his role to hide it. I'm saying that -------- is not his role/alignment. :P

That would make sense if this was a vig. Wilgy does not seem like a good mafia kill target.

Sloonei wrote:Replacement kill: Sorsha

Wuttup?

I am at work right now. I'll vomit some posts into the thread when I'm home. Someone tell me about important events please.

speedchuck wrote:Or it might be his role to hide it. I'm saying that -------- is not his role/alignment. :P

That would make sense if this was a vig. Wilgy does not seem like a good mafia kill target.

Scotty wrote: Oh, and I have info but I'm not sure how to use it.

Sloonei wrote:I did read the first 10 pages this morning and then skimmed for key events in what was left. Sig appears to have been lynched for normal sig reasons. Who was responsible for this?

Sloonei wrote:Replacement kill: Sorsha

Wuttup?

I am at work right now. I'll vomit some posts into the thread when I'm home. Someone tell me about important events please.

GENERAL RULES



-Here are some general rules I shamelessly stole from my past self who stole it from someone over at CPI Forums:

1. Massclaims (Large numbers of players revealing their roles at once) is highly unadvised. Such claims will likely not help. It more so reduces chances of win for your faction.
2. Flavorclaiming will not save you and is also discouraged because meta.
3. All Player to Host communication regarding questions about the game, actions, etc should be done through Private Messaging.
4. Don't copy/paste information given by a Host. This is similar to role claiming.
5. Keep game-sensitive details inside the game.
6. Do Not edit or delete posts.
7. Death will grant you one spoilered "bluh" post, which may not contain game-relevant information.
8. Faking day activations is strictly forbidden and punishable by Host kill.
9. Refrain from ciphering or concealing posts. This includes writing in the same color as the background.
10. Please, this is a game. Take it easy, play to have fun, but play to win! We all want to have fun. Remember that.
11. Guarantees: This setup involves no cults, jesters, obliterators, BTSC spying, mod bastardry, alignment-changing, or game-ending third party win conditions.
12. Additionally to rule 15, if you are ever feeling overly flustered, frustrated, upset, etc. It is recommended that you close the window and take a break. (Ex. take a shower. get some water. get some fresh air) It's no fun to anyone when tensions are high and people get generally upset and end up making the wrong choice.

Silver Lantern wrote:I might be joking but I won't admit it until I troll Sloonei for at least a page.

Dyslexicon wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:I might be joking but I won't admit it until I troll Sloonei for at least a page.

So in other words, if you're scum then Slooni is town. Got it.^^

Dyslexicon wrote:On the top of my head, tip of my tongue and bottom of my soul, initial thoughts is that Eloh doesn't look as bad for caring to do a random pop-in vote near EOD, considering Sig was town. And I think Speed is scum. Which I may or may not be able to explain at a later point, cause why am I even awake?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:
Based on her one post, Eloh is probably mafia.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Hi Sloonei. I suspected your previous body, so you should do some of those good Mafia things you do if you can.

Sloonei wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Hi Sloonei. I suspected your previous body, so you should do some of those good Mafia things you do if you can.

Which one of the many sig votes looks the worst in your opinion?

Silver Lantern wrote:Spirityo, can I take a screen shot of the polls and post it to the game?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I think there may be some insight available in this Nacho kill. Yeah, WIFOM, I don't care. Thoughts:

~ He was generally given credit more often than not, but he wasn't given the most credit. There were a few other players, namely nutella and Golden, who were town read more universally. So I don't think that's likely to be the sole motive for a Nacho kill.

~ It was only his second game on the site, and his first as a civilian. If we're in a one-mafia-team scenario here, I think the driving voice behind that kill is more likely to be someone who is not a Syndicate regular. Most Syndicate regulars on this roster would be less inclined to kill a visitor on Night 1. It's technically not "wrong", but it's lame. The reason I distinguish one mafia team specifically is that if that's the case, it's likely a larger team which would by default clue that team a little bit into their solitude. In this situation they know themselves to be mafia and everyone else to not be mafia, or at least they have a reason to believe that. This means Nacho is being offed as a suspected civilian on Night 1 in his first civilian game on this website. I reiterate: lame. People I think would look better in this are Syndicate regulars who played with him last time: Quin, Golden, Scotty, Long Con, Soneji, Wilgy, Marmot, INH, Eloh. That's too many people, but I can reduce it further by focusing on those who I'd expect to have a prominent voice in Mafia BTSC: Quin, Golden, Scotty, and Long Con. Possibily Marmot and INH.

I know that's a crapload of speculation, but it was in my head and now it's in yours. Chew on it and do with it whatever you like.

~ He was not shy about stating confident reads. He might have been on the right track with enough of them to frighten the scum into killing him immediately despite not being the most-town-read player there was.

Sloonei wrote:Also what is everything we know about the directions we're choosing in the poll?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I think there may be some insight available in this Nacho kill. Yeah, WIFOM, I don't care. Thoughts:

~ He was generally given credit more often than not, but he wasn't given the most credit. There were a few other players, namely nutella and Golden, who were town read more universally. So I don't think that's likely to be the sole motive for a Nacho kill.

~ It was only his second game on the site, and his first as a civilian. If we're in a one-mafia-team scenario here, I think the driving voice behind that kill is more likely to be someone who is not a Syndicate regular. Most Syndicate regulars on this roster would be less inclined to kill a visitor on Night 1. It's technically not "wrong", but it's lame. The reason I distinguish one mafia team specifically is that if that's the case, it's likely a larger team which would by default clue that team a little bit into their solitude. In this situation they know themselves to be mafia and everyone else to not be mafia, or at least they have a reason to believe that. This means Nacho is being offed as a suspected civilian on Night 1 in his first civilian game on this website. I reiterate: lame. People I think would look better in this are Syndicate regulars who played with him last time: Quin, Golden, Scotty, Long Con, Soneji, Wilgy, Marmot, INH, Eloh. That's too many people, but I can reduce it further by focusing on those who I'd expect to have a prominent voice in Mafia BTSC: Quin, Golden, Scotty, and Long Con. Possibily Marmot and INH.

I know that's a crapload of speculation, but it was in my head and now it's in yours. Chew on it and do with it whatever you like.

~ He was not shy about stating confident reads. He might have been on the right track with enough of them to frighten the scum into killing him immediately despite not being the most-town-read player there was.

You're talking about why someone wouldn't kill Nacho.

While the speculation that you could perhaps make a whole chunk of people look better by guessing they wouldn't kill Nacho is interesting (so is you putting forth the theory) I'm presently more concerned with the question of why would the mafia kill Nacho?

The pattern I'm seeing in Night 1 mafia kills on the Syndicate appears to be "Kill someone relatively quiet who is not that suspected." Would you agree with that?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:You're talking about why someone wouldn't kill Nacho.

While the speculation that you could perhaps make a whole chunk of people look better by guessing they wouldn't kill Nacho is interesting (so is you putting forth the theory) I'm presently more concerned with the question of why would the mafia kill Nacho?

The pattern I'm seeing in Night 1 mafia kills on the Syndicate appears to be "Kill someone relatively quiet who is not that suspected." Would you agree with that?

Sloonei wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:Spirityo, can I take a screen shot of the polls and post it to the game?

Hello Silver Lantern, it's nice to see you over here! Now explain to me why you didn't cast a vote in the final tally yesterday.

Silver Lantern wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:Spirityo, can I take a screen shot of the polls and post it to the game?

Hello Silver Lantern, it's nice to see you over here! Now explain to me why you didn't cast a vote in the final tally yesterday.

I didn't feel the need to cast a vote.

I don't like this question at all. Makes it feel like you're trying to be helpful by questioning someone who didn't vote to lynch when in fact I had no reason to vote in the final tally.

Why do you feel I needed to "cast a vote in the final tally?"

Sloonei wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:Spirityo, can I take a screen shot of the polls and post it to the game?

Hello Silver Lantern, it's nice to see you over here! Now explain to me why you didn't cast a vote in the final tally yesterday.

I didn't feel the need to cast a vote.

I don't like this question at all. Makes it feel like you're trying to be helpful by questioning someone who didn't vote to lynch when in fact I had no reason to vote in the final tally.

Why do you feel I needed to "cast a vote in the final tally?"

Because you are a player in this game and as such your voice matters. Withholding your vote is equivocal to withholding your voice, and/or chickening out. Who would you have voted for if it mattered?

speedchuck wrote: Dyslexicon gave us a subtle fakeslip that I, Golden, JJJ, Strawhenge, Long Con, and a few others argued vehemently about. Lots of reads to go about there.

JJJ and Golden got into an interesting spat, then JOH jumped in after to interact in interesting ways.

Fredwood was suspected by some people for no reason, blew up a bit about it. Towny-ish response in most estimations, I think.

Sig was lynched over inconsistency with early posts, general non-towny responses, and probably mostly because of low activity. Golden and JJJ led the lynch for the most part I think. I was an earlyish voter as well. Then others piled on.

Nachomomma was considered town, I think. He was probabvly a mafia kill target.
Wilgy was considered possible scum. He was probably a ??? target. (Not sure)

I recommend looking at the highlights above, at the very least. It's what I remember without a reread. A little vague, but good starting points.

JOH, we have had janitors as roles before, to deny town information. It's rare, and I forget which game I saw it in. I can try to look up the example later.
In more open setups, the whole game is usually janitor'd.
That's my experience.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:@Sloonei

I'm asking. If I was mafia and everyone else was town (for the purposes of putting all targets on an even playing field), Nacho would not have been a top choice for me. Same goes for pretty much all the mafia kill choices in Unfortunate Events.

I've been working under the assumption that my guess is not as good as yours, hence the question. If there's no site meta, as JJJ posits, then I suppose my guess is in fact as good as yours and I should ISO Nacho tomorrow.

Silver Lantern wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:Spirityo, can I take a screen shot of the polls and post it to the game?

Hello Silver Lantern, it's nice to see you over here! Now explain to me why you didn't cast a vote in the final tally yesterday.

I didn't feel the need to cast a vote.

I don't like this question at all. Makes it feel like you're trying to be helpful by questioning someone who didn't vote to lynch when in fact I had no reason to vote in the final tally.

Why do you feel I needed to "cast a vote in the final tally?"

Because you are a player in this game and as such your voice matters. Withholding your vote is equivocal to withholding your voice, and/or chickening out. Who would you have voted for if it mattered?

I don't understand your hypothetical. Explain why and how it would matter?

BTW I am leaving a game night and driving home. I should be back in in about 20-30 mins.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: speedchuck (3rd of 10) - I kind of like this post. His comments about sig are more external than personal, but I think they're still meaningful. The approach is rather Slooneian, I think, in a good way. "Are there any good reasons not to lynch sig?" is the premier example of that.

I've never been an adjective before.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Well crap, now there's 5 mafia alive and I have 0 scumreads.

Sloonei wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Well crap, now there's 5 mafia alive and I have 0 scumreads.

I get this reference. How do you know WIlgy wasn't scum?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Well crap, now there's 5 mafia alive and I have 0 scumreads.

I get this reference. How do you know WIlgy wasn't scum?

I don't know if Wilgy was scum.

Why do you imply that he wasn't?