The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 10:53 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 10:45 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 10:39 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 10:35 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:54 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:48 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:19 pm

Interesting idea but that would not only out them and give scum a target

But wouldnt it be better to hold off using that until late game where there’ll be more information regarding player alignment?

I mean the felicity player's peak is a one shot, and can ascertain the identity of any player role in the game, so I think it's a no brainer that it would be used straight away

I mean sure if you wanna get a scum right from the start and not give them any chance to out their teammates

But there are only 2 (pending 3) in the mafia team currently

What do you guys suspecting Lux think of this post

It's a strategic argument that I do not agree with, but it does not tell me much about their alignment in this game.

Why do you bring it up?

I was actually talking about this

"But there are only 2 (pending 3) in the mafia team currently"

It's intriguing that she seems to refer to the "mafia team" singular. I could easily speculate that that suggests she's a member the first mafia team.

this occurred to me as well, her post doesn't really make sense unless she's coming from that perspective (or maybe just misread/didn't thoroughly read the roles)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 7:27 pm Oh and I have a scumlean on Sprityo if (when) Nutella flips wolf.

Unprovoked directionless hostility smells of distancing.

.....what

does this even mean


what is this referring to

the jig is up

I might join the juliets train, I can't remember any actual content from her except vague promises to get more involved later on. I get that she's busy but even then I expect to see a few prodding questions from her by now since that is how the juliets do.

Matahari wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:06 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:31 pm

Matahari wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:21 pm It’s hard for me to imagine making lists so early. I tried to make one today, but after rereading the game, and some ISOs, I don’t feel like I have much of an opinion on anyone. I can’t clear anyone, but there are a few that I don’t feel great about.

Dragomir, seems like he changes his mind too easily and it might not be a bad thing (like being blendy and trying to stay on people’s good side) but it still caught my attention.

Sloonei, I would like to trust him but all the pushing for info from people, the gth on day 0, seems tailor made for helping mafia. Talk is great, it helps to be able to look back at it later in the game, and that helps town. But I’ve never seen anyone keep at it like Sloonei.

Nutella, is not playing the same as the last two games I played with her. She was town in those games, and she seems a lot less pulled together so far.

I can’t say that any of them would get a vote from me. Not yet. Basically, I’m still observing people.

Tons of linki

Talk to me some more about nutella. What specifically seems different? Can you point to any posts in particular that stand out to you?

In the last two games, Nutella had confidence. The kind that seems like normal Nutella, who will say anything, whether you like it or not. Also, the kind of confidence that only a civ has. For reference, Gossip Girl and Steely Dan mafia

I’m not seeing it here. She’s not bold, rude, in your face, or any of the normal Nutella. I can’t fault her for not picking people’s posts apart and challenging them, because really, the posting hasn’t been especially suspicious, but I think she would be challenging more if she were civ. She seems like she’s holding back. That’s the best way I can explain it. That is going by old skool ‘feels’ and probably not helpful to newer mafia players.
I wouldn’t swear I’m right, but it’s enough that she’s on my watchlist.

I've absolutely been bold, rude, and in your face this game and how dare you suggest otherwise

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:15 amthe jig is up

what?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:28 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:15 amthe jig is up

what?

you snuck in to mess it up. i was responding to jack's last post on the previous page. ignore this

but don't ignore my case on luxurious. talk about that.

well on the one hand I kind of like your lux case, on the other hand I don't like the way you pulled it out of nowhere when the phase officially started after dismissing your suspicion of me. So probably you're both scum

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:31 am well on the one hand I kind of like your lux case, on the other hand I don't like the way you pulled it out of nowhere when the phase officially started after dismissing your suspicion of me. So probably you're both scum

Yeah, you're right. A player changing their mind abruptly is scummy.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:10 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:06 pm hm, well yes mac. i can deduce that today is in fact, day 0

thank you, this has been my ted talk

Truly inspiring

This was probably more in reference to the Ted Talk joke than distancing, actually.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:33 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:31 am well on the one hand I kind of like your lux case, on the other hand I don't like the way you pulled it out of nowhere when the phase officially started after dismissing your suspicion of me. So probably you're both scum

Yeah, you're right. A player changing their mind abruptly is scummy.

Coming out with a full blown case and top red read on someone you haven't so much as mentioned any read of before is a far cry from "changing your mind"

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:39 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:33 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:31 am well on the one hand I kind of like your lux case, on the other hand I don't like the way you pulled it out of nowhere when the phase officially started after dismissing your suspicion of me. So probably you're both scum

Yeah, you're right. A player changing their mind abruptly is scummy.

Coming out with a full blown case and top red read on someone you haven't so much as mentioned any read of before is a far cry from "changing your mind"

I have a flair for the dramatic.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:33 am

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:10 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:06 pm hm, well yes mac. i can deduce that today is in fact, day 0

thank you, this has been my ted talk

Truly inspiring

This was probably more in reference to the Ted Talk joke than distancing, actually.

....yes. is this why you're connecting me to sprityo? an off topic joke?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:05 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:02 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:01 am Every time I make a multi-quote post at Dragomir's request, I screw up the formatting.

Edit the post to fix it. You're a mod no?

Yeah, but editing posts in-game is against the rules.

Report it? Wouldn't trying to make things more clear be legit enough or y'all just can't do so?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:40 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:39 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:33 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:31 am well on the one hand I kind of like your lux case, on the other hand I don't like the way you pulled it out of nowhere when the phase officially started after dismissing your suspicion of me. So probably you're both scum

Yeah, you're right. A player changing their mind abruptly is scummy.

Coming out with a full blown case and top red read on someone you haven't so much as mentioned any read of before is a far cry from "changing your mind"

I have a flair for the dramatic.

You have a flair for the full of shit

[VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:40 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:33 am

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:10 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:06 pm hm, well yes mac. i can deduce that today is in fact, day 0

thank you, this has been my ted talk

Truly inspiring

This was probably more in reference to the Ted Talk joke than distancing, actually.

....yes. is this why you're connecting me to sprityo? an off topic joke?

I read it as you shading him for popping in and out without contributing anything.

I see it now.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:06 am What's the best point in my Lux case?

The last point.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:41 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:40 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:39 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:33 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:31 am well on the one hand I kind of like your lux case, on the other hand I don't like the way you pulled it out of nowhere when the phase officially started after dismissing your suspicion of me. So probably you're both scum

Yeah, you're right. A player changing their mind abruptly is scummy.

Coming out with a full blown case and top red read on someone you haven't so much as mentioned any read of before is a far cry from "changing your mind"

I have a flair for the dramatic.

You have a flair for the full of shit

[VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

Come on, really?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:41 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:05 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:02 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:01 am Every time I make a multi-quote post at Dragomir's request, I screw up the formatting.

Edit the post to fix it. You're a mod no?

Yeah, but editing posts in-game is against the rules.

Report it? Wouldn't trying to make things more clear be legit enough or y'all just can't do so?

I think we have sometimes let the game host fix formatting stuff as long as it's fully transparent what the edit was, but we take the no editing rule quite seriously. It's up to [mention]DFaraday[/mention] 's discretion.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:13 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:02 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:01 am Every time I make a multi-quote post at Dragomir's request, I screw up the formatting.

Edit the post to fix it. You're a mod no?

But then how would we catch Sloonei with the messed up the formatting scumtell?

What?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:43 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:41 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:05 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:02 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:01 am Every time I make a multi-quote post at Dragomir's request, I screw up the formatting.

Edit the post to fix it. You're a mod no?

Yeah, but editing posts in-game is against the rules.

Report it? Wouldn't trying to make things more clear be legit enough or y'all just can't do so?

I think we have sometimes let the game host fix formatting stuff as long as it's fully transparent what the edit was, but we take the no editing rule quite seriously. It's up to @DFaraday 's discretion.

M'kay.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:43 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:13 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:02 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:01 am Every time I make a multi-quote post at Dragomir's request, I screw up the formatting.

Edit the post to fix it. You're a mod no?

But then how would we catch Sloonei with the messed up the formatting scumtell?

What?

he's joking

Not gonna lie, finding out that Dunya, Nutella, and Jay were mods was straight outa left field for me.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:41 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:40 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:39 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:33 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:31 am well on the one hand I kind of like your lux case, on the other hand I don't like the way you pulled it out of nowhere when the phase officially started after dismissing your suspicion of me. So probably you're both scum

Yeah, you're right. A player changing their mind abruptly is scummy.

Coming out with a full blown case and top red read on someone you haven't so much as mentioned any read of before is a far cry from "changing your mind"

I have a flair for the dramatic.

You have a flair for the full of shit

[VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

I kinda wanna join in on a Sloonei wagon, but a Luxy lynch I like as well.

What do you think hazelnut chocolate spread that tastes really good and goes together with like everything?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:45 am Not gonna lie, finding out that Dunya, Nutella, and Jay were mods was straight outa left field for me.

name color tells you who the mods & admins are

Y'all are so nice and civil on this forum.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:51 am Y'all are so nice and civil on this forum.

We're a Purge society. All of our aggression and rage is taken out in the nightkills and lynch votes.

[mention]nutella[/mention] Here is where I first indicated my suspicion on Luxurious. I did some silent ISOs late in Day 0 and had more pings on her than anyone else. I wanted to wait until Day 1 to pivot onto her because A) I was trying not to flood the thread any more than I already had on Day 0, and B) I was hoping it might catch people off guard and create interesting reactions. But no one seemed to care. It took 3 hours before Dragomir finally said something about it.

I don't even know why it would be suspicious for me to jump on a new target like that. Your vote is silly.

Well I already said I would vote for you upon day start anyway.

fight fight fight

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 3:21 am fight fight fight

Who's your strongest scum read right now?

Dragomir have a vote mate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:48 pm Day 1 is the new Day 0.

Yep

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 7:47 pm Is it day 1 yet? can i tell jack his waifu is shit

Once again, I don't know what this means. What is waifu?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:00 am Dragomir have a vote mate

Nah, wait, brother man, here, take two.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:18 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:16 am I have a wonderful advantage in this setup that I don't much get to enjoy anymore:

Regardless of of Sloonei's alignment, somebody I'm not friends with is going to be scared.

I like that.

Why does this get the eye?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:42 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:40 am Your opinion on juliets dear Sloonei, if you please.

I haven’t looked at her closely yet. Her response to your suspicion was unconvincing, and in that she kind of copped to the accusation. So I’m open to her as a suspect, but I’d like to see what she does the next time she’s here.

It was unconvincing? There have been a ton of posts in this game, some not relevant to the game that I don't even understand, and I barely have time to think. I had three doctor's appointments this week, a biopsy, a bad test result and a painful dental procedure. I'm not feeling well and have another appointment Tuesday which will probably be more bad news. I'm in two other games now so what time I have is spread thin. Today is my birthday and I will probably spend most of it trying to get a handle on this game. I feel pressured to find mafia soon in this game where I'm seeing a lot of behavior which I interpret as civ because I will not be here during the day tomorrow for the most part and am going out tomorrow night for my birthday so won't be here for EOD. So - I am overwhelmed. But I'm not sitting around saying "woe is me". I'm applying time to this game today regardless of what else is going on in my life and hopefully I won't feel overwhelmed any more.

So [mention]Ultra[/mention] I see you have voted for me. What is your reasoning? I'll do your ISO but as far as I remember you've said nothing about me. What did I miss?

Sloonei you asked for some feedback on your Lux suspicion. I'm not sure I know how to quote multiple times in one post. Edit: Now that I'm finished I see that I have no idea how to do this. I apologize but I'll put my comments in red so you can read them.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:34 am "Why Lux?"

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:38 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:32 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:29 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:53 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:49 pm Hot take

Felicity player should use her one shot on Rip Hunter to prevent Cult Shenanigans

at first glance cult looks pretty harmless early game, in my personal opinion it should be spent on someone like deathstroke, it brings down the average kpn from 2.5 (i assume) down to 1.5

i dont see any posts of ultra that would let me make a read as they are all pregame fluff which happens or strategic thinking which comes from both alignments

Hmmmm

what's on yer mind?

It feels a bit like a minimization of what Ultra’s doing

And I’m not sure if MM has played with Ultra before but it’s kinda shady to dismiss his posts as pregame fluff or NAI

I don't feel good about this post. I don't agree with the sentiment of the first line, nor do I feel like that behavior would been to be qualified as suspicious. I also do not see why Lux is suspecting MafiaMenace for not committing to a read on Ultra right away. Lux has not playing with MafiaMenace, to my knowledge. This whole post feels like a reach for suspicion.
Moving on.

The thing I didn't understand in this quote is why Lux felt MafiaMenaces post was shady. He has a difference of opinion, one that differs from everyone else that I see, yet he brought it forward regardless of what others were saying it. I don't agree with his opinion but I don't see that it makes him shady. I don't know that Lux's opinion makes her bad but I will consider your point.
This mindmeld is the only thing convincing me that you have potential to be town
[/quote]
Again, the point which is being "mindmelded" over does not feel particularly strong or meaningful, which makes me feel like it's insincere. And I also do not like it when players dangle suspicion like this. "I would suspect you, but..."
If you are going to say that, you should attach the reasons you have for considering the person a suspect. I don't see Lux doing that anywhere. I see a lot of softball questions for people, but I don't see a really compelling chain of thoughts anywhere in Lux's ISO. And I see this read on nutella that looks very fake.[/quote]

The comment "This mind meld is the only thing convincing me that you have the potential to be town" bothered me but I couldn't really put my finger on why. I am still struggling to articulate it so maybe it's just a way of expressing something that is different from what I am used to. I do think you have a good point here though that it would be less problematic if she has listed reasons she had for finding nutella suspect.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 6:51 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:45 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:43 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:40 pm If Day 1 started right now my vote would be on nutella.

Your suspicions are gravitating around people focusing too much on mechanics and I don’t see you as a driving force in the thread. You’re reacting rather than creating. It feels safe.

Sloonei treating day 0 like a super extension on day 1 is like good

But I think this is a bit early of a jump

I can see this coming from an anxious town or a trigger happy scum.

Since y’all apparently bus like there’s no tomorrow here, I’m leaning scum

Another thing I hate is this. Nowhere in this post does Lux attach any of my behavior to bussing. She observes that I am being very active. She then makes the leap from "Sloonei is active" to "People on the Syndicate like to bus", and somehow puts these two pieces together to create a suspicion against me. She would later elaborate that it was "an associative read" between nutella and I, but I do not see why that is the conclusion she is drawing. All Lux has said about me is that I'm extremely active and therefore suspicious. Bogus. [/quote]

The disconnect for me in Lux's statement is I couldn't make the leap from "I can see this coming from an anxious town or a trigger happy scum" to "Since y'all apparently bus like there's no tomorrow here, I'm leaning scum". I thought her comment "a trigger happy scum" implied Sloonie was out to get someone, anyone, because he was scum. But then the last sentence is linking him to nutella, i.e., he's bussing her. How does that square with him being a trigger happy scum? I don't think a trigger happy scum would go after a teammate. I would understand it if she had said "I can see this coming from an anxious town or a scum who is bussing". So bottom line I don't understand how she got to the end statement.

So Sloonei I can see your issues with her statements but I'm not clear these things make her bad. My concern is I'm just not understanding her because I'm not used to communicating with her. I'll read her ISO today and see if that helps me see her the way that you are seeing her. I will also be interested to see other's comments on your case.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 3:07 am @nutella Here is where I first indicated my suspicion on Luxurious. I did some silent ISOs late in Day 0 and had more pings on her than anyone else. I wanted to wait until Day 1 to pivot onto her because A) I was trying not to flood the thread any more than I already had on Day 0, and B) I was hoping it might catch people off guard and create interesting reactions. But no one seemed to care. It took 3 hours before Dragomir finally said something about it.

I don't even know why it would be suspicious for me to jump on a new target like that. Your vote is silly.

Sloonei, lol I don't know whether you realized this or not but you posted your case at 1:34 am eastern daylight time. It's no wonder you had only one response. I won't see anything posted after about 10:00 until the next day.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 9:07 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:42 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:40 am Your opinion on juliets dear Sloonei, if you please.

I haven’t looked at her closely yet. Her response to your suspicion was unconvincing, and in that she kind of copped to the accusation. So I’m open to her as a suspect, but I’d like to see what she does the next time she’s here.

It was unconvincing? There have been a ton of posts in this game, some not relevant to the game that I don't even understand, and I barely have time to think. I had three doctor's appointments this week, a biopsy, a bad test result and a painful dental procedure. I'm not feeling well and have another appointment Tuesday which will probably be more bad news. I'm in two other games now so what time I have is spread thin. Today is my birthday and I will probably spend most of it trying to get a handle on this game. I feel pressured to find mafia soon in this game where I'm seeing a lot of behavior which I interpret as civ because I will not be here during the day tomorrow for the most part and am going out tomorrow night for my birthday so won't be here for EOD. So - I am overwhelmed. But I'm not sitting around saying "woe is me". I'm applying time to this game today regardless of what else is going on in my life and hopefully I won't feel overwhelmed any more.

Happy birthday and feel better. Don’t worry about this game right now.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 10:24 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 3:07 am @nutella Here is where I first indicated my suspicion on Luxurious. I did some silent ISOs late in Day 0 and had more pings on her than anyone else. I wanted to wait until Day 1 to pivot onto her because A) I was trying not to flood the thread any more than I already had on Day 0, and B) I was hoping it might catch people off guard and create interesting reactions. But no one seemed to care. It took 3 hours before Dragomir finally said something about it.

I don't even know why it would be suspicious for me to jump on a new target like that. Your vote is silly.

Sloonei, lol I don't know whether you realized this or not but you posted your case at 1:34 am eastern daylight time. It's no wonder you had only one response. I won't see anything posted after about 10:00 until the next day.

I was talking about my vote. I posted that at 10 and there was a bit of chatter, and i asked everyone to explain their votes but nobody asked me to explain mine. It was devastating, juliets. I cried a little.

There is a 0% chance I vote for juliets today. Those posts are the same exact tone as when I suspected her in It’s Always Sunny.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:05 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:56 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:52 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:28 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:20 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:14 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:10 am
Yes you were trying to establish yourself as a deepwolf but I just don't believe someone can become one D0. Becoming one requires multiple DPs of powerwolfing, this DP was just one of those for you. Someone powerwolfing in order to become a deepwolf D0 is different from someone being a deepwolf outright in D0 and the latter is what I don't believe.

Or, you know, Sloonei is a civilian.

Or, you know, he's not.

You’re making the same mistakes as last game.

Really? Am I making an absurd and relentless tunnel against you? No. Am I making a hard push for you, trying to convince everyone that you're scum? No. Am I being relaxed about my scum reads and not making a big deal out of them? Yes. Was I in the last game? No. Am I being super confident in my scum reads? No(unless you want to consider just thinking that you're scum as super confident).

So tell me again about how I'm making the same mistakes as the previous game.

Also, do you just like to discredit someone's thoughts on you by bringing up a past game? I mean sure, it'd make sense if the player is playing as bad as the did in the previous game and they're not changing but that's not me here. I'm not playing as close as to how I was last game in terms of aggressiveness with my reads. I'm just scum reading and I'm being pretty soft about it unlike last game where I was super strong in my reads.

You are leaping to conclusions about me without seeming to consider alternatives or looking at the full picture. You’re in the beginning stages of a tunnel.

I am discrediting you because you are suspecting me. I’ve responded to every point you’ve expressed against me and you’ve just come back with additional points or refused to budge. I’m telling you that you’re wrong after having addressed every other point. You are wrong about me. Please at least entertain me and pretend that I’m town.

Yeah, I did do that when I first suspected you but after my interactions with you, my scum read dissipated and became a null read. That was until I tackled your iso and I don't see any leaping to conclusions there.

I did that to our interactions prior to me tackling your iso but after those interactions I wasn't scum reading you anymore.

I've already tried pretending that you're town which was when we were talking about the Felicia peek and random questioning stuff. Thus, I ended up losing the scum read on you which turned into null.

You're acting like I've been carrying my suspicion from earlier to now.

Drago, I am not understanding what you are saying here. When I read the words it seems like you are no longer reading sloonei as scum sloonei. Am I correct in my read?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:29 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:25 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:16 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:40 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:33 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:30 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:08 pm

Because she’s mafia? There is no motivation here. The accusation here is that her tone could have been false. That’s not something she would consciously plot out, it’s just something that would slip into her posts by accident.

Don't really buy it but ok.

What part do you not buy? I don’t need you to agree with my case, but it seems like you’re disagreeing with it by virtue of flat out misunderstanding, and I compulsively need to bridge that gap.

Sometimes mafia make mistakes. Sometimes they are not authentic. I try to catch them being not authentic. That is what I accused nutella of.

Don't buy her subconsciously slipping like that. Sounds like a stretch.

This is suspicious stuff from Dragomir. First of all, just because Sloon said that a phony tone could "slip into her posts", that's a far cry from her actually slipping in some way. It's a tone read, not a slip. Is this a cultural misunderstanding of the ways to use the word "slip"? Comes off as hamfisted deliberate misunderstanding, and, coupled with a possible TMI defense of nutella, it's suspicious.

I thought he was saying that she actually slipped there, wasn't thinking tone read but thanks for the clear up.

TMI? Where?

Enh, your recent Civ-read of her to Sloon, which is pretty unsupported... that opinion was bolstered by your part in Slipgate, but if you truly misunderstood Sloonei's post then I can back-burner it for now.

Day Zero, surface-level... that is legit enough to me. We all need our Day Zero warmup suspicions though, so I'm your #1 fan right now.

LC, I'm trying to understand the scum read on Drago. In the post above he asks you what the TMI on nutella means. I think your response is the "Day Zero, surface level...that is legit enough to me" sentence. Can you be more specific? I don't understand what you means by "surface level" - are you referring to a post he made?

I had slight concerns about drago regarding his handling of my Day 0 nutella case, but he answered all my questions satisfyingly. I’m back to objecting o his lynch.

Players I’d confidently argue are not mafia:
Ultra
Macdougall
Sabie
Dragomir
juliets

Players I’m not inclined to lynch, but not totally sold on either:
nutella
MafiaMenace
Epignosis

Players I either suspect or don’t feel strongly about:
Everyone else

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 10:32 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 10:31 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 10:29 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 10:26 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 10:26 pm [VOTE: Juliets] aubergine

Why?

Look at her ISO, she's mostly asking pretty surface level questions and it looks like scum flavored productivity. She's also not digging into anything too interesting and hasn't really gotten anywhere as far as I can tell.

u forgot to vote

voting is confusing around here

Ok Ultra, I did your ISO and found your reason for voting me so never mind my first question. I think I've already explained my activity level. Your comment that I'm not digging into things too interesting I guess is in the eye of the beholder. I'm giving more attention to the game today so maybe you will see the difference.