The Syndicate

That's not even true. I haven't tried to sort creature because I don't know how to. He's an enigma. I have no response at this point because you're ignoring my responses, ignoring my contributions, and ignoring my actual posts.

Where the hell is everyone?

I'm very frustrated that no one is here to even engage. How am I supposed to "solve" the game as Ted so desperately says I should be doing that I haven't been if even Ted won't engage in anything I say?

I am not bad. I would request you place your votes somewhere else. I would like Nanook, Enrique, or Sig in that order, but I will vote to save myself as I must.

Tedexter wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:24 pm No scum hunting.

No town hunting.

Doesn't that apply to numerous people?

I can't decide if nanook is bad or just lazy civ idk. I wish there was a little more discussion happening too.

Rej apparently decided he's dead so he doesnt have to be responsible for voting in the poll. Not a great look.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:40 pm Rej apparently decided he's dead so he doesnt have to be responsible for voting in the poll. Not a great look.

That's a reaching accusation.

Do you suspect Rej?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:41 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:40 pm Rej apparently decided he's dead so he doesnt have to be responsible for voting in the poll. Not a great look.

That's a reaching accusation.

Do you suspect Rej?

Somewhat but I haven't been able to really come up with a good case on why just a suspicion. I'm just mentioning it weird that people have been putting votes on the dead nonplayer option when they're still in the game.

Yes, but Dom has more going on to him than those people, which I’ve told you about.

I just find it weird he latched on a post that says “By the way I might drop in activity because x reason” and he thought “Boom, caught his ass. Confirmed scum”

That’s what his posts reflect anyway. He had a “in your face” attitude that’s more characteristic of mafia than town.

I don’t think a town sees that post and actually says “K, one down, two to go”. The level of confidence is unjustified for the reason he provided.

Mafias tend to focus on one emotion at a time because it’s really hard to fake it and in that moment he focused on faking confidence, but it was for the wrong reasons.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:42 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:41 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:40 pm Rej apparently decided he's dead so he doesnt have to be responsible for voting in the poll. Not a great look.

That's a reaching accusation.

Do you suspect Rej?

Somewhat but I haven't been able to really come up with a good case on why just a suspicion. I'm just mentioning it weird that people have been putting votes on the dead nonplayer option when they're still in the game.

If someone was forced not to vote wouldn't they just like not vote in the poll? Or do they have to vote on the dead option?

Tedexter wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:43 pm
That’s what his posts reflect anyway. He had a “in your face” attitude that’s more characteristic of mafia than town.

It's characteristic of Dom, is what I'm saying.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

You don't even have a vote on the board.

Let's fix that.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:56 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:36 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:45 pm @sig @Enrique @Nanook

who should we lynch and why

For Nova if I'm getting what Epi is laying down plus and more importantly how it seems like he's setting up lynches.

What has Epi laid down? Setting up lynch seems like a sensational summary to what I'm doing, is having a PoE and trying to work it something you've never seen before?

Nova pushed the ET lynch to a degree and lock cleared ET based off of ET flipping mafia, one of his first posts was unclearing Creature and laying groundwork against him.

You're just narrating what I've done. Is something wrong with any of those things? Also I believe I locked Creature thinking he was Sleazy when TSP flipped non-Sleazy, if you notice I only locked him past N1 when TSP flipped. Not after the D1 lynch. The one based off of ET flipping Mafia was Dom who I said looked alright but should be locked if ET flips scum. Do you disagree with having that thought seeing their interactions?

He's also slowly building a case on me, based on what I already said with him asking Dom. He did the same thing, but more generally with Epi. I personally feel like he's trying to lead town to more lynches, but these lynches aren't in towns best interest and he's trying not to be seen as a the real pusher of lynches so when people flip civ he can't be blamed for it.

I'm building a case on you 'cause I suspect you. It not something new at all, I mentioned having bad feelings about you since D1 I believe. What have I done generally with Epi? He's been a strong town read of mine for a while now. I'm being pretty vocal about who I suspects and it ain't no secret, so I'm not sure how I'm trying to absolve myself from blame. "Trying to lead town to more lynches" is a hella of a spin, I mean townies try to lynches people they suspect lol. You're not even getting to the meat of my posts and judging me to figure me out, this is some surface-level fear-mongering bullshit.

I'm only hesitant of voting for Nova since Nanook is on it and he's only on it based off of what Epi said. I'm still a bit meh on Nanook and if Epi thinks Nova is mafia why hasn't he voted there? That entire thing is a bit weird, but my other point is independent of Epi/Nanook.

I'm not narrating what you've done in any way, shape, or form. And you're 100% attempting to lead town without leading them based around how your asking questions and the type your asking. Re ET, approaching this from the perspective you have TMI it makes perfect sense to lock clear Creature, then when ET flips immediately go back on it, it's a set up strategy for a future lynch. If you knew ET would flip civ, which if you're mafia you'd know.

Re Epi, when you directly asked him who he suspects. I'm not saying you think he's mafia. However, it rubbed me the wrong way how you asked him and only him. Again it seems like an attempt to get other people to do the work for you.

This also isn't a surface level/fear mongering at all.
1. almost nobody suspects you and there's no real movement against you.
2. This is looking at your playstyle and general thought process it doesn't require me to pull up quotes on everything you said since it's based off of an overall strategy.
3. The fact you're trying to spin what I said into a fear mongering type thing means that I'm probably right.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:47 pm [VOTE: sig] aubergine

You don't even have a vote on the board.

Let's fix that.

Rude.

[VOTE: Nova] aubergine

I'll roll with this, I'd go for a Nanook vote to if we can muster it.

I'm not against Dom, I see the points being made against him, but he's literally playing the way he always does so far.

Epi you said to keep the votes 4-2 and you made it 4-3

I could totally see a Nova/Nanook and one other probably someone laying low/not active team.

Epi what’s the thing with sig? You didn’t even talk about him?

Actually nevermind this ends at seven I don't want that close a margin on me

Voting Dom

Tedexter wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:52 pm Epi you said to keep the votes 4-2 and you made it 4-3

And you're keeping it that way.

Tedexter wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:53 pm Epi what’s the thing with sig? You didn’t even talk about him?

No, I didn't.

He was being a bystander. I wanted him to vote.

Poll doesn't close for another five minutes. Relax.

If we wanna change course I'd be down like I said dom is Dom reading him is difficult for me, but I know I'm civ, and he didn't try to build a case against anyone just voted for me.

I'd prefer Nova, Mac or Nanook.

Am I too late again?

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Haha

Epi looks bad post flip.

Mac locked town, Creature locked town, sabie is trending upwards again

Town squad

Tedexter wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:20 pm Mac locked town, Creature locked town, sabie is trending upwards again

Town squad

I'd lock creature/sabie

Mac will bus hard so I'd not clear

Tedexter wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:19 pm Epi looks bad post flip.

Don't care how I look.

He was the second voter

Plus he’s got swag

And by the way, Dom, there were a lot of stuff that made you scum. The “in your face thing” was barely adding any value to the case.

I think I can read you fairly easy though, so I’ll be glad to put your theory to the test and you can always prove me wrong.

But your little outburst is also from scum mentality, “yeah i’m scum but the reasons you’re calling me scum for absolutely suck”

Interesting is that you and Epi both focused on that more than the other points. You are triggered by that and Epi tried to focus on that to tip me off. Hmmmmm.

I will be back later with probably a huge case on who the other scum are and the towns etc etc

Good job towns

I didn't try to do a damn thing.

As someone who has not been around, my only purpose today was ensuring that whichever person got the most votes got lynched. I didn't want any voting manipulation swinging this one.

My purpose was accomplished. I'm satisfied with that.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:43 pm I didn't try to do a damn thing.

Dom - 4 votes

Sig - 2 votes

You put sig at 3 votes for no reason, not even talking about him. You didn’t say a word about him all game.

Now, realistically speaking, that would’ve made a tie between dom and sig.

Tedexter wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:42 pm He was the second voter

Plus he’s got swag

And by the way, Dom, there were a lot of stuff that made you scum. The “in your face thing” was barely adding any value to the case.

I think I can read you fairly easy though, so I’ll be glad to put your theory to the test and you can always prove me wrong.

But your little outburst is also from scum mentality, “yeah i’m scum but the reasons you’re calling me scum for absolutely suck”

Interesting is that you and Epi both focused on that more than the other points. You are triggered by that and Epi tried to focus on that to tip me off. Hmmmmm.

I will be back later with probably a huge case on who the other scum are and the towns etc etc

Good job towns

No 100% Mac will hard bus and has done nothing to earn civ credit. Like at all. Especially considering he was always net -1 Epi switched off me prior to which I voted for Dom.

Once you take into vote manipulation I was a sealing vote there, while Mac dropped an early vote and wasn't around for EOD it doesn't clear him at all or really Creature as much. The only one coming out looking great is Sab since she was active when he was lynched. I don't agree with calling locktown so early especially when he could take a negative vote.

I;ll also stand with Epi here since from a Meta stand point he always has the in your face style. That's how he plays as both civ/mafia ask anyone familiar with his meta.

I'm curious why you immediately turn to Epi and not nova who was actively trying to build a counter wagon.

Enrique, Nova, Mac, Nanook, and Spirtyo are whom I'm eyeing right now.

Nova/Mac are top two followed by Nanook.
Enrique/Sprityo are more meh reads

How satisfying to see mafia got caught, I just peeked in and saw Dom got voted up.
Sry for not being here in time and slendering the EoD, I was with a friend and then we gamed together. I didn't felt on making a case.
For me novaselinenever is looking worser, and Sabie seems also to look better in my list now.

My towncore is Tedexter, Creature and Mac. Mac because he is playing really observative and seemingly precise. I don't know how a scum can benefit from that.




Rej
Creature
Tedexter
Macdougall

sabie12

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sig
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novaselinenever

Epignosis
sprityo
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Enrique

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:54 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:58 pm I think I get it lmao

I'd be interested in knowing what you think you get.

I won't tell you if you are right or not.

What do you think was my idea?

I can’t say without outing your role, which I’m not really sure is the best choice lol

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:49 pm

Tedexter wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:42 pm He was the second voter

Plus he’s got swag

And by the way, Dom, there were a lot of stuff that made you scum. The “in your face thing” was barely adding any value to the case.

I think I can read you fairly easy though, so I’ll be glad to put your theory to the test and you can always prove me wrong.

But your little outburst is also from scum mentality, “yeah i’m scum but the reasons you’re calling me scum for absolutely suck”

Interesting is that you and Epi both focused on that more than the other points. You are triggered by that and Epi tried to focus on that to tip me off. Hmmmmm.

I will be back later with probably a huge case on who the other scum are and the towns etc etc

Good job towns

No 100% Mac will hard bus and has done nothing to earn civ credit. Like at all. Especially considering he was always net -1 Epi switched off me prior to which I voted for Dom.

Once you take into vote manipulation I was a sealing vote there, while Mac dropped an early vote and wasn't around for EOD it doesn't clear him at all or really Creature as much. The only one coming out looking great is Sab since she was active when he was lynched. I don't agree with calling locktown so early especially when he could take a negative vote.

I;ll also stand with Epi here since from a Meta stand point he always has the in your face style. That's how he plays as both civ/mafia ask anyone familiar with his meta.

I'm curious why you immediately turn to Epi and not nova who was actively trying to build a counter wagon.

Epi is sometimes hard to read but one thing I do know that he has said is if he's bad he would never intentionally bus the godfather member of the team. He could have tried harder to stop doms lynch but he was pretty whatever about it. He didn't vote him but he didn't really fight super hard against it. At the moment I'm moreso leaning a town read on epi still.

Mac and dom on the other hand have bussed and voted teammates in past games I've played with them.

I apologize for my recent absence everyone. Work has been hell and I get maybe a couple hours a day to myself. Things seem to be going back to normal hopefully so I’ll try and hop back into the game

In other news, good job Dom voters

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:28 pm Where the hell is everyone?

While you were being lynched-


I was studying the blade.

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:53 pm Enrique, Nova, Mac, Nanook, and Spirtyo are whom I'm eyeing right now.

Nova/Mac are top two followed by Nanook.
Enrique/Sprityo are more meh reads

Fair

Not gonna lie, I don’t think I’ve read a single post from Enrique this game

Day 1:
Creature (2) - Enrique, Nanook
Long Con (2) - TonyStarkPrime, Creature
Tedexter (1) - Novaseline
therealet (3) - Epi, Dom, Sabie
TonyStarkPrime (2) - Tedexter, Rej
No Lynch (1) - Sprityo
No vote: Long Con, Mac, Sig, therealet

Day 2:
NANOOK (2) - Mac, Creature
Rej (1) - Tedexter
Sig (1) - Nova
therealet (6) - NANOOK, Epi, Sig, Dom, Sabie, Rej
Not voting: Sprityo, therealet, Enrique

Day 3:
Dom (5) - Tedexter, Mac, Creature, Sabie, Sig
Enrique (1) - Epignosis
Nova (1) - NANOOK
Sig (2) - Nova, Dom
Not Voting: sprityo, Enrique, Rej

Also:

NANOOKofhearts2005 vibes is what I’m feeling rn

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:39 pm Also:

NANOOKofhearts2005 vibes is what I’m feeling rn

Right? I think he slipped up on his own meta analysis and I think he realized he had to switch his game since he just won as scum.

Dom/Nanook/ and either Nova or Mac

with a likelihood that either Nove/Mac are third party. Why do I keep rolling back to that? Since I don't think nova/Mac are playing within their civ meta and both have done enough to make me feel off for reasons I've already said.

Yea mac is giving me the heebie jeebies especially after inception mafia

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:39 pm Also:

NANOOKofhearts2005 vibes is what I’m feeling rn

I don’t know if this is a compliment or an insult

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:46 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:39 pm Also:

NANOOKofhearts2005 vibes is what I’m feeling rn

Right? I think he slipped up on his own meta analysis and I think he realized he had to switch his game since he just won as scum.

Dom/Nanook/ and either Nova or Mac

with a likelihood that either Nove/Mac are third party. Why do I keep rolling back to that? Since I don't think nova/Mac are playing within their civ meta and both have done enough to make me feel off for reasons I've already said.

Yeah why would I know my own meta

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:21 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:46 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:39 pm Also:

NANOOKofhearts2005 vibes is what I’m feeling rn

Right? I think he slipped up on his own meta analysis and I think he realized he had to switch his game since he just won as scum.

Dom/Nanook/ and either Nova or Mac

with a likelihood that either Nove/Mac are third party. Why do I keep rolling back to that? Since I don't think nova/Mac are playing within their civ meta and both have done enough to make me feel off for reasons I've already said.

Yeah why would I know my own meta

You left out half of said meta until I mentioned it though.

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:50 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:56 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:36 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:45 pm @sig @Enrique @Nanook

who should we lynch and why

For Nova if I'm getting what Epi is laying down plus and more importantly how it seems like he's setting up lynches.

What has Epi laid down? Setting up lynch seems like a sensational summary to what I'm doing, is having a PoE and trying to work it something you've never seen before?

Nova pushed the ET lynch to a degree and lock cleared ET based off of ET flipping mafia, one of his first posts was unclearing Creature and laying groundwork against him.

You're just narrating what I've done. Is something wrong with any of those things? Also I believe I locked Creature thinking he was Sleazy when TSP flipped non-Sleazy, if you notice I only locked him past N1 when TSP flipped. Not after the D1 lynch. The one based off of ET flipping Mafia was Dom who I said looked alright but should be locked if ET flips scum. Do you disagree with having that thought seeing their interactions?

He's also slowly building a case on me, based on what I already said with him asking Dom. He did the same thing, but more generally with Epi. I personally feel like he's trying to lead town to more lynches, but these lynches aren't in towns best interest and he's trying not to be seen as a the real pusher of lynches so when people flip civ he can't be blamed for it.

I'm building a case on you 'cause I suspect you. It not something new at all, I mentioned having bad feelings about you since D1 I believe. What have I done generally with Epi? He's been a strong town read of mine for a while now. I'm being pretty vocal about who I suspects and it ain't no secret, so I'm not sure how I'm trying to absolve myself from blame. "Trying to lead town to more lynches" is a hella of a spin, I mean townies try to lynches people they suspect lol. You're not even getting to the meat of my posts and judging me to figure me out, this is some surface-level fear-mongering bullshit.

I'm only hesitant of voting for Nova since Nanook is on it and he's only on it based off of what Epi said. I'm still a bit meh on Nanook and if Epi thinks Nova is mafia why hasn't he voted there? That entire thing is a bit weird, but my other point is independent of Epi/Nanook.

I'm not narrating what you've done in any way, shape, or form. And you're 100% attempting to lead town without leading them based around how your asking questions and the type your asking. Re ET, approaching this from the perspective you have TMI it makes perfect sense to lock clear Creature, then when ET flips immediately go back on it, it's a set up strategy for a future lynch. If you knew ET would flip civ, which if you're mafia you'd know.

Re Epi, when you directly asked him who he suspects. I'm not saying you think he's mafia. However, it rubbed me the wrong way how you asked him and only him. Again it seems like an attempt to get other people to do the work for you.

This also isn't a surface level/fear mongering at all.
1. almost nobody suspects you and there's no real movement against you.
2. This is looking at your playstyle and general thought process it doesn't require me to pull up quotes on everything you said since it's based off of an overall strategy.
3. The fact you're trying to spin what I said into a fear mongering type thing means that I'm probably right.

You are narrating it. I'm not how you'd describe saying the following "Nova pushed the ET lynch to a degree and lock cleared ET based off of ET flipping mafia, one of his first posts was unclearing Creature and laying groundwork against him." without actually weighing on it and saying what is bad about it. What the fuck does "leading them without leading them" means? I'm asking clear cut questions and it's no secret who I suspects. You keep parroting this line and it all goes back to me asking Dom about you which I cleared to you and you haven't gotten back to me at all 'cause you got nothing there. I had asked him about you' cause he started suspecting you out of nowhere and you shot on top of his list although you two have been avoiding each other. And both of you were at the top of my list which again, is very public information.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:19 pm The progression on Sig was also another that pinged me. He hadn't even mentioned him prior to EoD2 at all and then in a matter of a few quoted posts with bland questions/prod, he jumped to the top of list. It feels fake especially since the post that kickstarted was Sig theorycrafting about the Indie and just making a bet, like that shit is NAI. He then shoehorned sig's Sabie suspicion which he hadn't mentioned before at all. The latter is something that Enrique mentioned, he didn't believe Sig for it. Shit is racing in my head lol, all three are part of the remuntada PoE so it's pretty interesting.

> approaching this from the perspective you have TMI

Do you see what you're doing here lol? You're not arguing why I have TMI or why I'm scum, you're saying straight up that I am and using that to justify my behavior. You're going backwards instead of trying to figure me out or read me. You're doing that 'cause you have nothing. You have nothing 'cause I'm town and you're full of shit.

It also make perfect sense to lock clear Creature when you think he's a town role and unclear him when you learn that he isn't.

I've never asked Epi who he suspects. You're getting lost in your fake reads friendo. If you're actually reading my posts, you'd see I'm doing my own work. I guess that doesn't fit your narrative.

It is surface level, it absolutely is. You're not getting to the meat of any my pushes, reads or thoughts at all. You're basically just content painting a picture from far "Nova is pushing lynches, Nova is bad". The former is something you would do if you actually wanted to figure me out and read me. You'd look at my thoughts and see if they're genuine or if I'm faking them. You're not doing any of that at all.

It's based off of an overall strategy that you're rolling with after establishing me as scum which is the bullshit part. Why can't any of the thing that I've done be done by a townie?

I'm not spinning anything. I'm straight-up telling it how it is.