The Syndicate

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:10 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:07 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:00 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:59 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:57 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:53 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:38 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:26 pm

Would you consider voting for him?
I don't like Drago's tone here, reads like he's more focused on building wagons than anything else.
This point rings even more true now that Drago has rapidly jumped between the Turnip and LC wagons depending on which seemed the more likely lynch based on thread climate.
You still have yet to explain to me as to why a townie shouldn't try to build a wagon on the player that they scum read.
A townie should build a wagon by procuring evidence on a scummy user, not by constantly pestering people until they vote your way. What is with the switch between Turnip and LC, do you believe they may be paired?
Have I not done that? I made posts explaining why I think both of them are scum. The reasoning part is done, now I focus in the lynching part.

No. I just they're both scum.
As far as I can see you have made one post detailing your suspicion of LC, and one post detailing your suspicion of Turnip. Every other post has been about them in relation to other users. Your progression on them has felt very CWAC, in that by a cursory glance it looks like you have a lot of posts detailing your suspicions on them, but when you actually look at it very little is actually written about them and you're mostly relying on other people posting about them and telling/suggesting to people that they're scum rather than put in any real work in detailing reads or even suspicions about these people. Of all the reasons to scumread you, this is the strongest.

You're right.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:10 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:09 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:05 pm So I guess a better way to present that read is this: who is participating, but not moving the needle or enabling chaos to thrive?
Speedchuck.
This applies just as well to you ya know

Incorrect. I am enabling chaos to thrive.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:11 pm**

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:10 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:09 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:05 pm So I guess a better way to present that read is this: who is participating, but not moving the needle or enabling chaos to thrive?
Speedchuck.
This applies just as well to you ya know
Incorrect. I am enabling chaos to thrive.

that's what he was saying, i think

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:15 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:08 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:07 pm As if the boat needs to be rocked further
steady the boat that is already rocking then.

That's my goal atm. What do you think of ted? I kinda like my vote. Master Radishes is also voting here and he seems like he's got his head on straight.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:17 pm**

I'm not sure what to think anymore. I think all my reads are wrong.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:19 pm**

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:15 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:08 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:07 pm As if the boat needs to be rocked further
steady the boat that is already rocking then.
That's my goal atm. What do you think of ted? I kinda like my vote. Master Radishes is also voting here and he seems like he's got his head on straight.

Ted has not stood out to me much, which makes him a suspect by default in this context. I gave a half-serious scum read on him earlier here because his question felt like it was trying to lead me somewhere rather than trying to get me to open up organically.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:19 pm**

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:17 pm I'm not sure what to think anymore. I think all my reads are wrong.

This is usually my favorite moment in any game. Find the source of the wrongness and build from there.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:21 pm**

I might as well mention that most of the reads I’ve stated in this game, especially the ones that have been bluntly worded without justification, have been goofy bullshit. I have expressed a few sincere reads, but for the most part I’ve just been pushing buttons.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:21 pm**

MacDougall presented an idea in a recent game he was good in. He said I was bad because I refused to talk to my teammates. Mac didn't say shit about that here. There are plenty of people I've not engaged with.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:22 pm**

Can't say that post you linked sways me into reading ted as bad, seems like a reasonable question on his end

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:23 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:21 pm I might as well mention that most of the reads I’ve stated in this game, especially the ones that have been bluntly worded without justification, have been goofy bullshit. I have expressed a few sincere reads, but for the most part I’ve just been pushing buttons.

You don't say.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:24 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:21 pm MacDougall presented an idea in a recent game he was good in. He said I was bad because I refused to talk to my teammates. Mac didn't say shit about that here. There are plenty of people I've not engaged with.

What is your point with this?

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:25 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:21 pm MacDougall presented an idea in a recent game he was good in. He said I was bad because I refused to talk to my teammates. Mac didn't say shit about that here. There are plenty of people I've not engaged with.
What is your point with this?

I'd expect him to fling the same shit here. He's not doing it.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:27 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:25 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:21 pm MacDougall presented an idea in a recent game he was good in. He said I was bad because I refused to talk to my teammates. Mac didn't say shit about that here. There are plenty of people I've not engaged with.
What is your point with this?
I'd expect him to fling the same shit here. He's not doing it.

Is your conclusion that he is scummy for it?

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:29 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:27 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:25 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:21 pm MacDougall presented an idea in a recent game he was good in. He said I was bad because I refused to talk to my teammates. Mac didn't say shit about that here. There are plenty of people I've not engaged with.
What is your point with this?
I'd expect him to fling the same shit here. He's not doing it.
Is your conclusion that he is scummy for it?

I gave you some data. I want to know your interpretation of it. I know what I think and I'll comment on it directly.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:30 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:29 pm I gave you some data. I want to know your interpretation of it. I know what I think and I'll comment on it directly.

Well, if you insist. I think it is stupid to expect a player to do something so narrow and minute twice and then base a read on it.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:31 pm**

I voted for funnygurl again

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:33 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:31 pm I voted for funnygurl again

Why not TSP?

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:37 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:31 pm I voted for funnygurl again
Why not TSP?

Why do people keep asking other people why they're not voting for other other people?

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:39 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:37 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:31 pm I voted for funnygurl again
Why not TSP?
Why do people keep asking other people why they're not voting for other other people?

I can't answer for other people.

In my mind, funnygirl and TSP are linked. The difference is that funnygirl talks more. TSP doesn't. All things being equal, I'd rather lynch TSP.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:40 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:39 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:37 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:31 pm I voted for funnygurl again
Why not TSP?
Why do people keep asking other people why they're not voting for other other people?
I can't answer for other people.

In my mind, funnygirl and TSP are linked. The difference is that funnygirl talks more. TSP doesn't. All things being equal, I'd rather lynch TSP.

what links them?

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:42 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:04 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:24 pm tsp's posts have been forgettable to me but we're on the same wagon so sure i guess i can hold off on reading him for now
Tony has twelve posts. Why do they need to be memorable? You can read them in under sixty seconds. Why does this post exist?

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:42 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:39 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:37 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:31 pm I voted for funnygurl again
Why not TSP?
Why do people keep asking other people why they're not voting for other other people?
I can't answer for other people.

In my mind, funnygirl and TSP are linked. The difference is that funnygirl talks more. TSP doesn't. All things being equal, I'd rather lynch TSP.

If two players are equally suspicious, I'd rather go after the active one, since active scum are more dangerous

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:43 pm**

[VOTE: ted] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:45 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:42 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:39 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:37 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:31 pm I voted for funnygurl again
Why not TSP?
Why do people keep asking other people why they're not voting for other other people?
I can't answer for other people.

In my mind, funnygirl and TSP are linked. The difference is that funnygirl talks more. TSP doesn't. All things being equal, I'd rather lynch TSP.
If two players are equally suspicious, I'd rather go after the active one, since active scum are more dangerous

Perhaps. I like when mafia talk. It gives civilians things to talk about.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:49 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:33 pm I don't understand anything anyone is saying about me. Normally I love being talked about, but you guys have some dark imaginations. How does FunnyGurl even have an expectation about how I play?

Not that hard when you are the one setting the bar for expectation level.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:50 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:49 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:33 pm I don't understand anything anyone is saying about me. Normally I love being talked about, but you guys have some dark imaginations. How does FunnyGurl even have an expectation about how I play?
Not that hard when you are the one setting the bar for expectation level.

Why aren't you voting for LC?

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:52 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:07 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:00 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:59 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:57 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:53 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:38 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:26 pm

Would you consider voting for him?
I don't like Drago's tone here, reads like he's more focused on building wagons than anything else.
This point rings even more true now that Drago has rapidly jumped between the Turnip and LC wagons depending on which seemed the more likely lynch based on thread climate.
You still have yet to explain to me as to why a townie shouldn't try to build a wagon on the player that they scum read.
A townie should build a wagon by procuring evidence on a scummy user, not by constantly pestering people until they vote your way. What is with the switch between Turnip and LC, do you believe they may be paired?
Have I not done that? I made posts explaining why I think both of them are scum. The reasoning part is done, now I focus in the lynching part.

No. I just they're both scum.
As far as I can see you have made one post detailing your suspicion of LC, and one post detailing your suspicion of Turnip. Every other post has been about them in relation to other users. Your progression on them has felt very CWAC, in that by a cursory glance it looks like you have a lot of posts detailing your suspicions on them, but when you actually look at it very little is actually written about them and you're mostly relying on other people posting about them and telling/suggesting to people that they're scum rather than put in any real work in detailing reads or even suspicions about these people. Of all the reasons to scumread you, this is the strongest.

this is a good post

what do you wanna talk about sloonei?

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:54 pm**

a ted lynch is stupid js js js

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:54 pm**

talk about epignosis, [mention]Funnygurl555[/mention]

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:55 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:51 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:10 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:07 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:05 pm [VOTE: Turnip Head] aubergine

Really cool. Goes nowhere
Why move away from LC?
There is absolutely nothing spicy, delightful, fantastic, wonderous or magical about LC suspicion. It's boring ass tunnelly overdone claptrap.
Yet look at you.

Asshole, 1

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:55 pm**

I think I'm going to thoroughly reread the entire game.

Yeah, I just might do that. As of now, I have no scum reads or town reads. I take back everything I've said so far.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:55 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:54 pm a ted lynch is stupid js js js

Tell me more.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:56 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:55 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:51 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:10 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:07 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:05 pm [VOTE: Turnip Head] aubergine

Really cool. Goes nowhere
Why move away from LC?
There is absolutely nothing spicy, delightful, fantastic, wonderous or magical about LC suspicion. It's boring ass tunnelly overdone claptrap.
Yet look at you.
Asshole, 1

Octopus.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:57 pm**

I have three (3) solid town reads at this moment.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:57 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:21 pm MacDougall presented an idea in a recent game he was good in. He said I was bad because I refused to talk to my teammates. Mac didn't say shit about that here. There are plenty of people I've not engaged with.

Shut your fuck up

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:58 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:30 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:29 pm I gave you some data. I want to know your interpretation of it. I know what I think and I'll comment on it directly.
Well, if you insist. I think it is stupid to expect a player to do something so narrow and minute twice and then base a read on it.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:59 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:54 pm a ted lynch is stupid js js js

How do you feel about the following people?

TS Account
Sloonei
Leetic

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:00 pm**

In a recent game in which Epignosis was Mafia, he was not lynched. He is not being lynched here either. What say you Epi?

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:01 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:00 pm In a recent game in which Epignosis was Mafia, he was not lynched. He is not being lynched here either. What say you Epi?

Suits me.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:04 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:00 pm In a recent game in which Epignosis was Mafia, he was not lynched. He is not being lynched here either. What say you Epi?
Suits me.

How suspicion. U must be bard.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:05 pm**

Off to bed. Thank you Mac for waving your dick in front of my face. I only need to clean my magnifying glass.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:05 pm**

Funnygirl and TS Account are the first two official members of my town core. If you wish to join them, you may apply and state your case.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:06 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:05 pm Off to bed. Thank you Mac for waving your dick in front of my face. I only need to clean my magnifying glass.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:07 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:22 pm Usually much more has happened by now. This feels weird.

Right now, [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine. He is usually one of the more active people who tries to get stuff going, but right now his only contributions have been setup speculation. I'm not really seeing him trying to get any meaningful discussion going so I have to be suspicious.

I have a question for you. Why didn't you consider talking about mechanics to be a "getting things going" action? It was the most pressing matter at the moment because their were 2 players that signed up and weren't added to the player list. It is of something to talk about you wouldn't say?

What in your mind constitutes as getting things going? There were less than 5 ppl online at that time, everybody was trying to get their first posts in. What did you expect of Sloonei to be capable of doing at that time? I believe that you were unreasonably coming after him for not contributing when his options were very limited.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:07 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:05 pm Funnygirl and TS Account are the first two official members of my town core. If you wish to join them, you may apply and state your case.

One of them is among my three (3) town reads. The other one has my vote.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:07 pm**

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:55 pm [VOTE: tedextr] aubergine

This wagon has the purest votes from my POV. The other wagons just look trigger happy

[v] Turnip Head [/v]

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:08 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:04 pm I think we are a bit of a mess right now and the mafia team would be content to maintain the status quo. Turnip Head is a player who stands out as not rocking the boat. I don't know if that's fair to say. I am making this assessment with only one foot in the game.

I think wolves have little to no thread control and villagers are having a horrible day one.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:09 pm**

[VOTE: TH] aubergine

Just to keep it even while I slumber.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:09 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:07 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:05 pm Funnygirl and TS Account are the first two official members of my town core. If you wish to join them, you may apply and state your case.
One of them is among my three (3) town reads. The other one has my vote.

Anyone who is an antagonist of my town core is unwelcome.

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