Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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what do you expect from drwolfy?
what about that previous comment made you go hmmmm?Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:11 pmit was more a 'hmm' about the previous comments in the chainMarmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:31 pmKylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:28 pm"hmmmm" emoji hereMarmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:00 pmGuillotine wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:55 amI dont know, but it makes no bloody sense that they can kill someone with an anti-claim mechanic they can control, that is 100% not counterable.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:53 amHow do they get mana for their artifacts then?Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:48 am I dont think scum have lands. Because they could just give mana to a player of their choice who they really wanna kill for sure and target it with kill the fool.
Maybe there's enough power in civilian cards to counter some of the damage. The Wolf Pack card is counterable, even if the Pity the Fool isn't.
I'm not saying I have such power, avert your eyes mafia! I'm just saying that that it likely the case considering the firepower the scum have.
i actually thought he was one of few people to have a villagery read on me, can you elaborate?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum
no.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm
Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.
35 posts of mostly filler, and questions that didn't really go anywhere. Felt like low-effort posts to blend in.tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:14 pmi actually thought he was one of few people to have a villagery read on me, can you elaborate?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum
whydunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:17 pmno.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm
Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.
kyle is like the bodice of reason in this game with marmot. we are the 3 musketeers, don't touch.
@Made can you explain this thing again?
you're 4th bubbahJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:20 pm Are you in a wolf team with marmot & kyle, dunia?
nice open wolfing
shhhdunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:22 pmyou're 4th bubbahJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:20 pm Are you in a wolf team with marmot & kyle, dunia?
nice open wolfing
I feel ridiculously snubbed. This is ridiculous.dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:17 pmno.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm
Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.
kyle is like the bodice of reason in this game with marmot. we are the 3 musketeers, don't touch.
so I'm not a wolf then, got it.tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:56 pmdon't know where any of your expectations come fromhollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:53 pm Likewise, why, if I'm wolf flailing for a case against you are people saying they think it makes sense, and that you could be a wolf here? I'm half expecting you to say your wagon is the most impure wagon of all time and that town should just chop through it to win the game.
but ime d1 votes rarely matter and wolves are more likely to town read me in this time due to how nonsensical the push on me is
and wolves like to make sense, ergo to town read me or ignore the whole deal
lolhollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:25 pmso I'm not a wolf then, got it.tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:56 pmdon't know where any of your expectations come fromhollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:53 pm Likewise, why, if I'm wolf flailing for a case against you are people saying they think it makes sense, and that you could be a wolf here? I'm half expecting you to say your wagon is the most impure wagon of all time and that town should just chop through it to win the game.
but ime d1 votes rarely matter and wolves are more likely to town read me in this time due to how nonsensical the push on me is
and wolves like to make sense, ergo to town read me or ignore the whole deal
cause he's a wolfJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum
[VOTE: Made] aubergine
Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.
Why are we voting Ted?
Why are you scum reading ted?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:28 pmcause he's a wolfJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum
[VOTE: Made] aubergine
Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.
Why are we voting Ted?
bodice of reasondunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:17 pmno.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm
Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.
kyle is like the bodice of reason in this game with marmot. we are the 3 musketeers, don't touch.
look in my ISO, I've laid it out a few times now.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:40 pmWhy are you scum reading ted?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:28 pmcause he's a wolfJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum
[VOTE: Made] aubergine
Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.
Why are we voting Ted?
I explained it slightly later in a small amount of depth but basically this whole conversation relies on knowledge that is publically known to be at least probably false, that wolves would for sure know is false, (whether or not wolves have land cards)dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:14 pmwhat about that previous comment made you go hmmmm?Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:11 pmit was more a 'hmm' about the previous comments in the chainMarmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:31 pmKylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:28 pm"hmmmm" emoji hereMarmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:00 pmGuillotine wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:55 amI dont know, but it makes no bloody sense that they can kill someone with an anti-claim mechanic they can control, that is 100% not counterable.
Maybe there's enough power in civilian cards to counter some of the damage. The Wolf Pack card is counterable, even if the Pity the Fool isn't.
I'm not saying I have such power, avert your eyes mafia! I'm just saying that that it likely the case considering the firepower the scum have.
I don't think it's wrong to take things at face value sometimes. I also don't think that ted viewed it as scummy when he first posted it. Even a townie wouldn't (shouldn't) post something they think is outwardly scummy.Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:31 amok friends, i'm going to contribute a hot take so me and Marmot can be friends and i can supatown and stuff.tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:13 amthat was more my point, i assume they won’t use it every time.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:29 pmI don't think that 3 mana is tough to gather. I can produce that much mana in a night. I don't know how many lands you have, but I have three. If that's standard, then this is probably somewhere near equivalent to a wolf giving up their personal ability in order to use Punish The Fool.tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:15 am so punish the fool seems like a pretty punishing ability for our team.
the best we can probably do is to make scum play whack-a-mole. we all need mana for something...
fix suggestion : everyone should ask for the mana they need (and that's it - just ask for the mana, don't say what it's for or that it needs priority, etc etc), irregardless of how good or bad their ability is.
loop holes : the mafia will target strong people this way, so we're a bit forced to spread the cards to someone they don't need dead. (PoEish targets that can reasonably be town)
my instinct is to say that 3 mana is a bit tough to gather? so let's not try to get caught up in an ability that takes quite a bit to use anyway.
thoughts / concerns about this?
unless their roles are pretty terrible
*ahem* I feel like Ted is town. It's weird to argue that you should give mana to POE. That's really hard argument to make. It might be right (It's what I'm doing with my mana), but like making that argument as scum so clearly benefits scum who can't escape PoE.
Ted is also openly talking about stuff that seems really scummy at face value. After the above quote he then began to argue that because fool is a card in this game that there are town players who likely don't have enough mana to do their own shit...which makes sense, but it's is also the kinda thing that you probably shouldn't talk about as town, so I'd personally expect scum would think twice about talking about it too, because it looks scum af. What i'm getting at is Ted is too scummy too early in ways that aren't necessary. Why risk the heat this early?? I think it's unlikely to be a hit.
ok, thank you for your time. please adjust your reads accordingly.
and don't forget, towncores aren't formed, they're Made™
His ISO is not very meaty. He's disdainful of mech discussion, which is towny, and wants to get down to some mountainous play... but is "disengaged", like dunya said. His disengagement from the reads and the rules looks all right though. He doesn't make me suspicious for the most part. Kind of dislike the "oh, as if I'm scum asking for Cliffs" line, that's the worst thing I have to say about him.
sure, basically, Ted is scummy in a way a wolf wouldn't choose to be scummy, even if open wolfing. Like open wolfing is like lolcatting and like "yeah, me and todd are teammates" stuff. I think he's town because I don't see a scum Ted being this carelessly scummy and seemingly unaware.
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:42 pm
i got the feeling he didn't enjoy the attention. can you give me a quote or two where you feel he was comfortable?
wow, i started moving players around to indicate where they would be for me, but i disagree a lot i think. urist, macd, lc higher up, wilgy, ted lower and guillo maybe 1 level lower.
nicol bolas started strong, but has she kinda disappeared today?
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:14 pmi actually thought he was one of few people to have a villagery read on me, can you elaborate?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:20 pm Are you in a wolf team with marmot & kyle, dunia?
nice open wolfing
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum
[VOTE: Made] aubergine
Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.
Why are we voting Ted?
yeah, trying to give mana away probably naglLong Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:14 pm Right now I wouldn't yeet Marmot, dunya, Guillo, Kylemii, JPIC off the top of my head. I have to review why the votes on ted are there. I'm voting Made right now because I didn't trust his falcon vote reasoning, and he was trying to give his mana away. Either alignment would know that we already discussed the danger of that if they were reading the thread. Made clearly wasn't reading the thread, and may have been trying to set up Pity The Fool. [VOTE: Made] aubergine
do you really think mafia would be giving their mana out to civilians to kill them when they have more efficient means to do so?Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:14 pm Right now I wouldn't yeet Marmot, dunya, Guillo, Kylemii, JPIC off the top of my head. I have to review why the votes on ted are there. I'm voting Made right now because I didn't trust his falcon vote reasoning, and he was trying to give his mana away. Either alignment would know that we already discussed the danger of that if they were reading the thread. Made clearly wasn't reading the thread, and may have been trying to set up Pity The Fool. [VOTE: Made] aubergine
Not if they were paying attention.Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:21 pmdo you really think mafia would be giving their mana out to civilians to kill them when they have more efficient means to do so?Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:14 pm Right now I wouldn't yeet Marmot, dunya, Guillo, Kylemii, JPIC off the top of my head. I have to review why the votes on ted are there. I'm voting Made right now because I didn't trust his falcon vote reasoning, and he was trying to give his mana away. Either alignment would know that we already discussed the danger of that if they were reading the thread. Made clearly wasn't reading the thread, and may have been trying to set up Pity The Fool. [VOTE: Made] aubergine
If you do think mafia would, do you think they would tell thread?
If you're town, then I'd suspect Marmot.Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:18 pmJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum
[VOTE: Made] aubergine
Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.
Why are we voting Ted?
the really annoying thing for me is gth you're town (unless ted is scum, which i don't think is the case.)
let's play a game. If i'm town, who's bad
I read baddie chat when i'm scum. Regardless, giving mana isn't a bad idea if you don't tell people who your giving it to, as well as don't telegraph who you're giving it toLong Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:22 pmNot if they were paying attention.Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:21 pmdo you really think mafia would be giving their mana out to civilians to kill them when they have more efficient means to do so?Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:14 pm Right now I wouldn't yeet Marmot, dunya, Guillo, Kylemii, JPIC off the top of my head. I have to review why the votes on ted are there. I'm voting Made right now because I didn't trust his falcon vote reasoning, and he was trying to give his mana away. Either alignment would know that we already discussed the danger of that if they were reading the thread. Made clearly wasn't reading the thread, and may have been trying to set up Pity The Fool. [VOTE: Made] aubergine
If you do think mafia would, do you think they would tell thread?
huh, yeah dope, ur town. Marmot is playing how i'd expect a bad player to play this early. He's developing a towncore that includes himself and probably at least a teammate.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:22 pmIf you're town, then I'd suspect Marmot.Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:18 pmJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum
[VOTE: Made] aubergine
Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.
Why are we voting Ted?
the really annoying thing for me is gth you're town (unless ted is scum, which i don't think is the case.)
let's play a game. If i'm town, who's bad
The only read I agree with him on is you. I town read falcon as mentioned and I also think Urist has been slightly townie as well, so that would be an instant
I don't need any extra mana, for the record. My own mana covers my thing just fine.Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:23 pmI read baddie chat when i'm scum. Regardless, giving mana isn't a bad idea if you don't tell people who your giving it to, as well as don't telegraph who you're giving it toLong Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:22 pmNot if they were paying attention.Made wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:21 pmdo you really think mafia would be giving their mana out to civilians to kill them when they have more efficient means to do so?Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:14 pm Right now I wouldn't yeet Marmot, dunya, Guillo, Kylemii, JPIC off the top of my head. I have to review why the votes on ted are there. I'm voting Made right now because I didn't trust his falcon vote reasoning, and he was trying to give his mana away. Either alignment would know that we already discussed the danger of that if they were reading the thread. Made clearly wasn't reading the thread, and may have been trying to set up Pity The Fool. [VOTE: Made] aubergine
If you do think mafia would, do you think they would tell thread?
(which is why i'm planning to keep my town reads close to chest this game)
the posts i've quoted where he interacted with people (actually think it was like one person or two at most) are just generally awkward wolfish postsLong Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:04 pmHis ISO is not very meaty. He's disdainful of mech discussion, which is towny, and wants to get down to some mountainous play... but is "disengaged", like dunya said. His disengagement from the reads and the rules looks all right though. He doesn't make me suspicious for the most part. Kind of dislike the "oh, as if I'm scum asking for Cliffs" line, that's the worst thing I have to say about him.
What's your take on it?
Hi Ted, if Jpic is town, who is scum from your pov?tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:28 pmthe posts i've quoted where he interacted with people (actually think it was like one person or two at most) are just generally awkward wolfish postsLong Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:04 pmHis ISO is not very meaty. He's disdainful of mech discussion, which is towny, and wants to get down to some mountainous play... but is "disengaged", like dunya said. His disengagement from the reads and the rules looks all right though. He doesn't make me suspicious for the most part. Kind of dislike the "oh, as if I'm scum asking for Cliffs" line, that's the worst thing I have to say about him.
What's your take on it?
and afaict he has no villagery posts still
what do you think about the dichotomy of him asking to get cliff'd each time he got back in thread and having no pushes and your thoughts about him being townie for "wanting to get down to some mountainous play" even though it doesn't show?
I don't judge it too harshly because of how I play the early game myself. Some people take some time to get engaged, and I have to judge him based on how the posts he does have make me feel.tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:28 pmthe posts i've quoted where he interacted with people (actually think it was like one person or two at most) are just generally awkward wolfish postsLong Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:04 pmHis ISO is not very meaty. He's disdainful of mech discussion, which is towny, and wants to get down to some mountainous play... but is "disengaged", like dunya said. His disengagement from the reads and the rules looks all right though. He doesn't make me suspicious for the most part. Kind of dislike the "oh, as if I'm scum asking for Cliffs" line, that's the worst thing I have to say about him.
What's your take on it?
and afaict he has no villagery posts still
what do you think about the dichotomy of him asking to get cliff'd each time he got back in thread and having no pushes and your thoughts about him being townie for "wanting to get down to some mountainous play" even though it doesn't show?
