Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:14 pm
Maybe that wasn't the right word. I saw you called him town multiple times, but I couldn't find an explanation before.
KZA wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:15 pmHis early case on Alison seemed like a reasonable Sloonei thought even if I didn't really agree with it
I didn't walk it back, though I did qualify it as being of a Day 0 caliber. He's a town read.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:07 pm I don't think sloonei has been town enough for your day zero "sloonei's town folks" style post which I think you walked back maybe
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:17 pmI'm confirmed town jay thinks you're mafia tsp thinks Jay is mafia
Thats the important bits
Not reading until d3/4, idk, my mac impersonation says hes mafiaMarmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:19 pmNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:17 pmI'm confirmed town jay thinks you're mafia tsp thinks Jay is mafia
Thats the important bits
Cool cool, what do you think of Jay and myself? And also TSP?
Any reason behind not reading until d3/d4? That seems like an odd solving strategy.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:22 pmNot reading until d3/4, idk, my mac impersonation says hes mafiaMarmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:19 pmNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:17 pmI'm confirmed town jay thinks you're mafia tsp thinks Jay is mafia
Thats the important bits
Cool cool, what do you think of Jay and myself? And also TSP?
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:22 pmNot reading until d3/4, idk, my mac impersonation says hes mafiaMarmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:19 pmNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:17 pmI'm confirmed town jay thinks you're mafia tsp thinks Jay is mafia
Thats the important bits
Cool cool, what do you think of Jay and myself? And also TSP?
Jay usually self resolves by thenBoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:23 pmAny reason behind not reading until d3/d4? That seems like an odd solving strategy.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:22 pmNot reading until d3/4, idk, my mac impersonation says hes mafiaMarmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:19 pmNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:17 pmI'm confirmed town jay thinks you're mafia tsp thinks Jay is mafia
Thats the important bits
Cool cool, what do you think of Jay and myself? And also TSP?
Its in the order you askedMarmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:24 pmNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:22 pmNot reading until d3/4, idk, my mac impersonation says hes mafiaMarmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:19 pmNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:17 pmI'm confirmed town jay thinks you're mafia tsp thinks Jay is mafia
Thats the important bits
Cool cool, what do you think of Jay and myself? And also TSP?
Which one?
I have null reads on Marmot, LC and Dom, and slight town reads on SPF and Fingersplints. I am interested in investigating them because...
Oh I thought you meant the thread and not just JayNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:24 pmJay usually self resolves by thenBoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:23 pmAny reason behind not reading until d3/d4? That seems like an odd solving strategy.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:22 pmNot reading until d3/4, idk, my mac impersonation says hes mafiaMarmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:19 pmNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:17 pmI'm confirmed town jay thinks you're mafia tsp thinks Jay is mafia
Thats the important bits
Cool cool, what do you think of Jay and myself? And also TSP?
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:25 pmIts in the order you askedMarmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:24 pmNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:22 pmNot reading until d3/4, idk, my mac impersonation says hes mafiaMarmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:19 pmNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:17 pmI'm confirmed town jay thinks you're mafia tsp thinks Jay is mafia
Thats the important bits
Cool cool, what do you think of Jay and myself? And also TSP?
Which one?
If the game continues at the current pace I likely won't be reading most of the thread either lolBoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:26 pmOh I thought you meant the thread and not just JayNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:24 pmJay usually self resolves by thenBoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:23 pmAny reason behind not reading until d3/d4? That seems like an odd solving strategy.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:22 pmNot reading until d3/4, idk, my mac impersonation says hes mafiaMarmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:19 pmNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:17 pmI'm confirmed town jay thinks you're mafia tsp thinks Jay is mafia
Thats the important bits
Cool cool, what do you think of Jay and myself? And also TSP?![]()
Both times I have seen Bo play mafia he has focused on trying to coast and slide UTR. He's good at maintaining a lowkey presence, which is why he sometimes gets pushed as LHF by mafia, and why he's good at going UTR as scum. His read on tutuu did not seem to me like someone trying to slide by. I don't have a strong reason to townread Bo but I don't have concerns on his slot either.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:51 pmThey count. Thanks for answering my questions. I will consider what you've said.
I'd appreciate others' perspectives on Bo.
Yes I'm gathering it wasn't clear enoughMarmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:27 pmNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:25 pmIts in the order you askedMarmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:24 pmNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:22 pmNot reading until d3/4, idk, my mac impersonation says hes mafiaMarmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:19 pmNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:17 pmI'm confirmed town jay thinks you're mafia tsp thinks Jay is mafia
Thats the important bits
Cool cool, what do you think of Jay and myself? And also TSP?
Which one?
Oooooh, I thought that was a full sentence in which you yourself were not going to read the game at all until then, then said Idk, then randomly said "he's mafia"
I don't buy it.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:48 pm guys if I were to say that I think that jay is a wolf here how would that be taken?
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:25 pmI have null reads on Marmot, LC and Dom, and slight town reads on SPF and Fingersplints. I am interested in investigating them because...
- LC/Marmot's alignment sheds light on the alignment of other players. For example if LC is scum then you look great and the people that called LC town for no reason look really bad. Same with Marmot, SPF's pressure on him is telling if Marmot is scum.
- I find Dom to be a passionate and high energy player. While I don't think his absence from the thread is super AI, I would like to resolve him ASAP because I think I would work well with him if we're both town.
- Fingersplints is doing all the townie stuff that she usually does in other games, but she isn't as obvious town to me as she has been in both other games I've seen her town. I would like to understand why. This is the primary reason for reading her only lightly town and why I have her as a slot to look into.
- Out of all the players in my game, my read on SPF has varied/jumped around the most. I find half her content to be extremely townie and the other half to be insipid or misguided.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:28 pm My initial effort to put together a POE pool of 9 players:
Spoiler: show
POE pool
KZA
Long Con
Dom
Marmot
Tony
JPIC
Michelle
BoKnows
Al_Sama
I spoilered the town tiers, because I hate re-posting my obnoxious lists over and over. I did add one tier and moved some names around in there though, so have a click. Some players in the POE pool I have even had moments of positivity for like KZA and LC. Those moments are fleeting in the grand scheme of the game state though, so they edge into the pile. I'm likely to be wrong about at least one town-inclined read, perhaps more, and I am torn overall on a number of slots. So it's quite grain of salt still.
I don't really get this case and I feel like you're trying to force a scum case on Jay. eg. What about Jay's tone strikes you as scummy? What the hell does "his read on Sloonei was developed improperly" mean? What exactly do you think Jay is hesitant to say? Why is he being townread by Sloonei if he's scum?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:56 pm A few things have thrown me off from the beginning but his current vote for Marmot is something that inclines me to think that way as well. I also just don't think his iso is carrying the proper tone and I'm wondering if his read on sloonei was developed improperly. He also also seems hesistant to say things that I wouldn't usually think he'd be hesitant to say. I did like the post he made where he talked about sloonei/jay mutual TRs and how seriously they're taken or something though idk
this is probably just the usual day 1 jay tinfoil but that's where I'm at
Liking the interpretation of my game.Alison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:28 pmBoth times I have seen Bo play mafia he has focused on trying to coast and slide UTR. He's good at maintaining a lowkey presence, which is why he sometimes gets pushed as LHF by mafia, and why he's good at going UTR as scum. His read on tutuu did not seem to me like someone trying to slide by. I don't have a strong reason to townread Bo but I don't have concerns on his slot either.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:51 pmThey count. Thanks for answering my questions. I will consider what you've said.
I'd appreciate others' perspectives on Bo.
Also no you didn't
This interaction is insipid and wolfyMarmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:16 pmKZA wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:15 pmHis early case on Alison seemed like a reasonable Sloonei thought even if I didn't really agree with it
This is a reasonable KZA thought.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:21 pm This game already feels like a civilian win. Strut your stuff town gang and we can climb the 2021 leaderboard in no time. Just do your thing, because you've been blessed with a state of total solving comfort.![]()
Reasoning? Is it because he didn't answer your question?
Nothing comes easy, dear rodent, but it's nice to feel like we're going about things the right way. When I like the atmosphere of a game, I will make it known and hope that it is sustained. I think we're doing well. If there's any skill I trust myself with the most in the game of Mafia, it's identifying when a game thread is going well for the civilian faction and when it is not -- and in steering it true when needed.Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:37 pmJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:21 pm This game already feels like a civilian win. Strut your stuff town gang and we can climb the 2021 leaderboard in no time. Just do your thing, because you've been blessed with a state of total solving comfort.![]()
JJJ trying to make this game look easy on page 2. I dislike.
whatever
probably because Marmot is iso'ing me first as he said instead he was going to
It's a bit of a snap vote after considering a few things:
accusing tsp of making a case on day 1 is questionableAlison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:31 pmI don't really get this case and I feel like you're trying to force a scum case on Jay. eg. What about Jay's tone strikes you as scummy? What the hell does "his read on Sloonei was developed improperly" mean? What exactly do you think Jay is hesitant to say? Why is he being townread by Sloonei if he's scum?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:56 pm A few things have thrown me off from the beginning but his current vote for Marmot is something that inclines me to think that way as well. I also just don't think his iso is carrying the proper tone and I'm wondering if his read on sloonei was developed improperly. He also also seems hesistant to say things that I wouldn't usually think he'd be hesitant to say. I did like the post he made where he talked about sloonei/jay mutual TRs and how seriously they're taken or something though idk
this is probably just the usual day 1 jay tinfoil but that's where I'm at
"omgus" is such a dumb concept and it should disappear from Mafia vocabularyTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:42 pm also jay has never in his life omgused me as town and he has as mafia sample size = like 2
there's the jay we know and loveJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:43 pm"omgus" is such a dumb concept and it should disappear from Mafia vocabularyTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:42 pm also jay has never in his life omgused me as town and he has as mafia sample size = like 2
What's his suspicion of you?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:41 pmIt's a bit of a snap vote after considering a few things:
~ He has a bunch of posts, but I don't really understand his hunt -- it almost seems randomized at points
~ His suspicion of me is rather cliche, like it was squeezed through a JJJ Tinfoil shaped Play Dough machine
~ He told me he answered a question when, in his posts, I see nothing remotely resembling an answer
Click here and judge for yourselfBoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:43 pmWhat's his suspicion of you?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:41 pmIt's a bit of a snap vote after considering a few things:
~ He has a bunch of posts, but I don't really understand his hunt -- it almost seems randomized at points
~ His suspicion of me is rather cliche, like it was squeezed through a JJJ Tinfoil shaped Play Dough machine
~ He told me he answered a question when, in his posts, I see nothing remotely resembling an answer