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Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 10:53 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:53 pm Yo Gavial, stop lumping me with the degenerates. My treatment from Invictus deserves better cred than you're granting.

Agree with this

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 10:55 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:38 pm Like there's some nebulous kinda vague "maybe plat was trying to pocket" stuff but I don't see anything jn their interactions that makes me go "yeah these two are never partners," especially on dizzy's end, they're just kinda flaccid stuff

I do.
Not only do I think dizzy was being pocketed but I believe if Dizzy was mafia with Invic, Dizzy would have performed the night kill instead because they had the least amount of suspicion.

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 10:56 pm**

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:50 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:41 pm okay it sounds like most everyone susses Alison

which is kind of surprising after only one phase

why this
Well let’s see.
Tony is town based on them trying to cover for PR.
Dizzy is town because confirmed mafia clearly tried to pocket them.
Hollowcat is town because their interaction with confirmed mafia and hard case and push towards them doesn’t come from W/W.
Nanook’s reaction towards my check on the confirmed mafia and how they have been interacting with them is pretty unlikely to come from a W/W.
SPF just made a play recently that makes them very unlikely to be aligned with the confirmed mafia.

Leaving Alison, LC, Marmot and You.

I think your slot was sorta Townie but I also can’t see anything that would clear you and nothing that a wolf can’t do that you did.
LC has been decently Townie this game but not enough that they can’t be wolf.
Marmot is Marmot, probably self resolving.
Alison has made a hugh push on me SoD1 and other then that hasn’t really done anything else and there push on me was dog shit.

This sum it up for you?

you're technically clear now... after outing a red check and that you're a PR... so why would someone pushing you D1, before either of those things, be wolf indicative?

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 10:57 pm**

why is invictius/dizzy specifically w/v pocketing and not w/w buddying

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 10:57 pm**

Syn wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:56 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:50 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:41 pm okay it sounds like most everyone susses Alison

which is kind of surprising after only one phase

why this
Well let’s see.
Tony is town based on them trying to cover for PR.
Dizzy is town because confirmed mafia clearly tried to pocket them.
Hollowcat is town because their interaction with confirmed mafia and hard case and push towards them doesn’t come from W/W.
Nanook’s reaction towards my check on the confirmed mafia and how they have been interacting with them is pretty unlikely to come from a W/W.
SPF just made a play recently that makes them very unlikely to be aligned with the confirmed mafia.

Leaving Alison, LC, Marmot and You.

I think your slot was sorta Townie but I also can’t see anything that would clear you and nothing that a wolf can’t do that you did.
LC has been decently Townie this game but not enough that they can’t be wolf.
Marmot is Marmot, probably self resolving.
Alison has made a hugh push on me SoD1 and other then that hasn’t really done anything else and there push on me was dog shit.

This sum it up for you?
you're technically clear now... after outing a red check and that you're a PR... so why would someone pushing you D1, before either of those things, be wolf indicative?

There push on me was Dog Shit and I’m town.

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 10:58 pm**

I think the team is INVIC/Alison/Marmot
If one of Alison/Marmot is town it’s probably Syn but eh.

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:00 pm**

I’d say I track 1 of Alison/Marmot and you shoot one of them.
That way they either kill me and potentially get shot or they try and look for vigilante with the chance I track them.

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:00 pm**

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:58 pm I think the team is INVIC/Alison/Marmot
If one of Alison/Marmot is town it’s probably Syn but eh.

I'm 100% in agreement here, very solidly.

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:00 pm**

Meh I doubt the game is actually that easy but we can probably play like it is for a couple days

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:01 pm**

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:00 pm I’d say I track 1 of Alison/Marmot and you shoot one of them.
That way they either kill me and potentially get shot or they try and look for vigilante with the chance I track them.

Who are you addressing

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:02 pm**

Anyways your track is meaningless if its announced cause there's two mafia so

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:03 pm**

Uh I guess I should also put out there that if there's a third role that isn't vig you should out tomorrow cause it outs spf

I'm assuming there isn't and spf is still town but just in case there's someone out there unsure what to do

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:04 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:53 pm Yo Gavial, stop lumping me with the degenerates. My treatment from Invictus deserves better cred than you're granting.

lol town

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:04 pm**

do we know there's a vig

why do we think there's a vig besides invic fake claiming and spf fake CCing

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:04 pm**

oh nanook had same thot

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:05 pm**

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:58 pm I think the team is INVIC/Alison/Marmot
If one of Alison/Marmot is town it’s probably Syn but eh.

alison I get your suspicion on, why marmot?

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:06 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:03 pm Uh I guess I should also put out there that if there's a third role that isn't vig you should out tomorrow cause it outs spf

I'm assuming there isn't and spf is still town but just in case there's someone out there unsure what to do

i have a different take on this, but would rather table the discussion for now

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:06 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:03 pm Uh I guess I should also put out there that if there's a third role that isn't vig you should out tomorrow cause it outs spf

I'm assuming there isn't and spf is still town but just in case there's someone out there unsure what to do

derp denied

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:07 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:06 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:03 pm Uh I guess I should also put out there that if there's a third role that isn't vig you should out tomorrow cause it outs spf

I'm assuming there isn't and spf is still town but just in case there's someone out there unsure what to do
derp denied
Spoiler: show
ur still town tho
Spoiler: show
I think

How is that a derp?

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:07 pm**

Syn wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:04 pm do we know there's a vig

why do we think there's a vig besides invic fake claiming and spf fake CCing

that's about it

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:07 pm**

Syn wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:04 pm do we know there's a vig

why do we think there's a vig besides invic fake claiming and spf fake CCing

If there isn’t that would mean spf is outed scum.
There’s no way confirmed mafia claims a different PR and that happens.
Still don’t know why they allowed town to have KPN I would have given 1-Shot Cop or JK over that.

Honestly if I was mafia I’d have done Tracker. 1-Shot Cop and JK.

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:08 pm**

Syn wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:04 pm do we know there's a vig

why do we think there's a vig besides invic fake claiming and spf fake CCing

I mean there probably is but

If there isn't spf is borderline outed

But

I think its likely there actually is, in which case spf is still town

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:08 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:05 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:58 pm I think the team is INVIC/Alison/Marmot
If one of Alison/Marmot is town it’s probably Syn but eh.
alison I get your suspicion on, why marmot?

PoE.

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:08 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:06 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:03 pm Uh I guess I should also put out there that if there's a third role that isn't vig you should out tomorrow cause it outs spf

I'm assuming there isn't and spf is still town but just in case there's someone out there unsure what to do
derp denied
Spoiler: show
ur still town tho
Spoiler: show
I think

It isn't a derp

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:08 pm**

why would spf be outed scum in that world

she immediately rescinded after inv-

oh i see nvm lolz

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:09 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:07 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:06 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:03 pm Uh I guess I should also put out there that if there's a third role that isn't vig you should out tomorrow cause it outs spf

I'm assuming there isn't and spf is still town but just in case there's someone out there unsure what to do
derp denied
Spoiler: show
ur still town tho
Spoiler: show
I think

How is that a derp?

invictius would know the roles handed out by wolves, he claims vig hoping to out the vig he knows exists. nanook playing like there's no vig in play is a derp, but it's fine b/c he's most likely town

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:09 pm**

Vig is usually negative utility for town

Especially in this playerlist

Another reason to TR lc btw he'd be at risk from a vig shot

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:10 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:09 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:07 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:06 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:03 pm Uh I guess I should also put out there that if there's a third role that isn't vig you should out tomorrow cause it outs spf

I'm assuming there isn't and spf is still town but just in case there's someone out there unsure what to do
derp denied
Spoiler: show
ur still town tho
Spoiler: show
I think

How is that a derp?
invictius would know the roles handed out by wolves, he claims vig hoping to out the vig he knows exists. nanook playing like there's no vig in play is a derp, but it's fine b/c he's most likely town

Dude I exactly said there probably is a vig

I'm just hedging bets and covering edge cases

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:10 pm**

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:07 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:04 pm do we know there's a vig

why do we think there's a vig besides invic fake claiming and spf fake CCing
If there isn’t that would mean spf is outed scum.
There’s no way confirmed mafia claims a different PR and that happens.
Still don’t know why they allowed town to have KPN I would have given 1-Shot Cop or JK over that.

Honestly if I was mafia I’d have done Tracker. 1-Shot Cop and JK.

seems like hardmode to me

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:10 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:10 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:09 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:07 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:06 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:03 pm Uh I guess I should also put out there that if there's a third role that isn't vig you should out tomorrow cause it outs spf

I'm assuming there isn't and spf is still town but just in case there's someone out there unsure what to do
derp denied
Spoiler: show
ur still town tho
Spoiler: show
I think

How is that a derp?
invictius would know the roles handed out by wolves, he claims vig hoping to out the vig he knows exists. nanook playing like there's no vig in play is a derp, but it's fine b/c he's most likely town
Dude I exactly said there probably is a vig

I'm just hedging bets and covering edge cases

*explicitly

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:11 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:06 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:03 pm Uh I guess I should also put out there that if there's a third role that isn't vig you should out tomorrow cause it outs spf

I'm assuming there isn't and spf is still town but just in case there's someone out there unsure what to do
i have a different take on this, but would rather table the discussion for now

Of course you do lolol

But yeah its almost certainly not relevant

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:11 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:09 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:07 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:06 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:03 pm Uh I guess I should also put out there that if there's a third role that isn't vig you should out tomorrow cause it outs spf

I'm assuming there isn't and spf is still town but just in case there's someone out there unsure what to do
derp denied
Spoiler: show
ur still town tho
Spoiler: show
I think

How is that a derp?
invictius would know the roles handed out by wolves, he claims vig hoping to out the vig he knows exists. nanook playing like there's no vig in play is a derp, but it's fine b/c he's most likely town

Ah, logical. Cool.

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:11 pm**

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:08 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:05 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:58 pm I think the team is INVIC/Alison/Marmot
If one of Alison/Marmot is town it’s probably Syn but eh.
alison I get your suspicion on, why marmot?
PoE.

just poe?

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:12 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:11 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:08 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:05 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:58 pm I think the team is INVIC/Alison/Marmot
If one of Alison/Marmot is town it’s probably Syn but eh.
alison I get your suspicion on, why marmot?
PoE.
just poe?

Plus his last post before the yeet was up is SUUUUUUPER-wolfy.

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:54 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:53 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 10:43 pm hardclaim tracker don't kill me
Yeah saying this in the 20th something post of the game doesn't clear tsp for "providing pr cover" lmao

i take clears thank you

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 11:54 pm**

there's actually like a weird thing here

Posted: **Sat May 15, 2021 12:12 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:54 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:53 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 10:43 pm hardclaim tracker don't kill me
Yeah saying this in the 20th something post of the game doesn't clear tsp for "providing pr cover" lmao
i take clears thank you

He also was trying to HardClaim vigilante too lol.

Posted: **Sat May 15, 2021 12:14 am**

ok that was a joke but i would have but like

Posted: **Sat May 15, 2021 12:14 am**

same as spf i would have done that as either alignment

Posted: **Sat May 15, 2021 5:19 am**

I've gathered that Plat was checked and has all the votes. That kind of blindsided me tbh. I didn't think he'd be this calm as scum. But I guess that's why we have pts, so nice.

Going to catch up.

Posted: **Sat May 15, 2021 5:20 am**

LC should be cleared from that, but you've probably already gathered that.

Posted: **Sat May 15, 2021 5:25 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 6:55 pm Oh maybe I should read the setup, they know what roles there are but not who has them

Nvm that read then

Mafia knowing who is pt makes 0 % sense.

Posted: **Sat May 15, 2021 5:28 am**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 7:03 pmi might be gullible but i find it kind of villagery for nanook to go out of his way to craft a townread on someone based on their misunderstanding of the setup, all while saying: "no more townslips about the setup will be accepted", while inadvertently basing their read on a misunderstanding of how the setup works

this is such a convoluted thought process for nanook to have that im tempted to call it villager indicative

I guess. And at the same time, how did he even think that mafia would know who the pts are, that's an insane mechanic lol. But also, yes, it would be a very convoluted thing to fake.

Posted: **Sat May 15, 2021 5:29 am**

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 7:20 pm Ah fuck it yeah I was fake claiming my green check on Invictius, I just wanted them to seem safe so they would perform the Mafia kill and they did.

I HARD CLAIM TRACKER WITH RED ON INVIC

Good targeting then. I do wish you did this later in the day, so he had all day to post thinking he wasn't outed. Maybe consider that next time.

Posted: **Sat May 15, 2021 5:30 am**

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 7:24 pm This also makes Dizzy Town because INVIC was clearly trying to pocket them.

How dares he. There will be slapping.

Posted: **Sat May 15, 2021 5:35 am**

Invictius wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:16 pmBecause I shot there too. I'm the vig.

Tough break to be outed this way.

Posted: **Sat May 15, 2021 5:37 am**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:22 pm well w/e, i don't care if this dude wants to fish my role out. i CC vig. i did not shoot last night

you can go into anti-spew now

You 100 % didn't need to do this. Plat would never shoot Finger there. Oh well.

Posted: **Sat May 15, 2021 5:39 am**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:26 pm i retract btw, i just wanted to force him to out himself =)

I'm the JOAT!

Posted: **Sat May 15, 2021 5:40 am**

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:28 pm We also know there is a vigilante so vigilante should shoot within: Alison/LC/Marmot/Syn

Not LC, I think. Cause Plat was steering towards LC with me on D1. He doesn't like to bus needlessly.

Posted: **Sat May 15, 2021 5:49 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:35 pm Kinda think dizzy is not cleared

Kinda understandable, but I'm town. I totally did not expect Plat to be scum here. I've seen him as scum once, and he was more high strung and controlling than normal. In this game he was calmer than normal, I'd say. And I had the same reactions/reads as him D1, so I just thought he was most likely town.

Oh, and I think spf is town, because early D1 she was one of the first to call Plat town before anyone else (I think), and I don't think she does that as scum with someone she doesn't know.

LC is town for Plat pushing there and trying to make that happen D1.

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