The Syndicate

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:27 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:11 am Shadow vote porscha

I was elated about actually getting her over then massively bummed to see scotty go over instead.

Theoretically possible scotty is mafia but it's hard to see a vengeful mafia making that shot tbh so I'm just treating him as a town flip

Why? Not saying your wrong cause I have no idea and kinda am feeling like Scotty was actually town sadly but why wouldn't a wolf kill Lily?

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:40 am i'm well within wolf range, and i'm gonna hold a 100% townread on schweppes/bereft, can you elaborate on boq and svs

i'm also fairly confident in ender being town

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:46 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:52 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:00 am

Night 1 Vote
Seanzie/pyxxy (3 votes) - pyxxy, EnderWiggin, Princess Abigail
Bereft (2 votes) - Long Con, Marmot
Long Con (1 votes) - Cape90, Porscha
DrWilgy (1 vote) - S~V~S
S~V~S (1 vote) - DrWilgy
lilypetal (1 vote) - robyn
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (1 vote) - NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Did not vote (5 votes) - JackofHearts2005, Boquise, WindwardAway, Lime Coke, Bereft, Lilypetal

@Long Con do you know why you only had one vote in the night poll when two people voted for you? I'm not shading you here; I think maybe I was paranoid of you, you having fooled me the last two games we played.

No, I assume it's a typo? @Justplayingitcool

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:58 am Also, the Spooky Announcement appears to be about you, Long Con. "Cerberus Con" in the village of Lostpedia, lol.

Indeed!

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:18 am I'm booooooored

Someone kill long con

Sure, let's do that. No one cares if you're bored, chief.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:27 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:09 am Also also also

WWA I think asked about why I don't think vote manip is scum sided or whatever

My reason is that I think the vote manip is the semi bastard mechanic and that it is designed to encourage all players to vote and vote in the correct and valid way that Rondo has set up.

I think it's ***likely*** randed and Scotty just got hella unlikely if it's not why would wolfs throw a bunch of useless votes on vanity wagons. I suppose you could say it's too play wifom games "these people got votes so they are town or scum" but... meh just doesn't add up to me

I also considered that, actually. I even talked about it, but I didn't consider that it could be randomized. The only reason why I didn't think it was related to the 5 of us who didn't vote is because there were 6 ghost votes and not 5, but maybe there's always one ghost vote and then an additional one for each nonvoter.

Also, did we have to vote at night? I assumed it was optional

Anyway, I decided I'm not voting Robyn today. I'm considering Long Con as a contender for "not particularly towny" but I want to hear his defense. Also have other people I'd consider, but I'll talk about them later.

LOL my defense against what?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:19 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:35 am

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:31 am cape is a reasonable kill, i will completely ignore cape's legacy now, and note that brad has dropped off

wwa, ignoring everything relating to lily, why aren't you gonna vote me?

i'd also like a full readslist from u

Partly for reasons I listed in an above response to you - I don't trust my ability to read you, and you did have some towny points on D1.

And then adding the lily thing on top of that just kinda reinforces the idea that I don't need to focus on you today.

I don't have a full readlist nor do I plan on writing one, most people are null or flipflopping in and out of my PoE for lack of a better place to put them.

I'm no longer confident in town!Brad, though, and he's dropped down to a null because his lack of engagement despite being present is kind of concerning. I think Abbi could be scum but I'm not confident on that read. I think you have a decent chance to be town but I'm not 100% on that take as I said. I probably still wouldn't touch Bereft even though I think he's fallen off a bit in activity. I also still think boq and Porscha are both town.

Feel free to ask me about specific names, I wanted to format a proper readlist last night but got too

Why am I scum?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:20 am Why me fry me

Also I think it's disingenuous to say Bread isn't doing much or engaged

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:25 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:38 am Oh yeah, Ender is also in my townreads and I still think svs is more likely town, probably with some scum jumping on her.

Most other players I don't have a read on because they haven't posted enough content for me to gauge their alignment.

So Brad is bad for being here but not engaged but ender is good for being here and providing substantially less meaningful content

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:27 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:11 am Shadow vote porscha

I was elated about actually getting her over then massively bummed to see scotty go over instead.

Theoretically possible scotty is mafia but it's hard to see a vengeful mafia making that shot tbh so I'm just treating him as a town flip

Why? Not saying your wrong cause I have no idea and kinda am feeling like Scotty was actually town sadly but why wouldn't a wolf kill Lily?

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:22 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:27 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:11 am Shadow vote porscha

I was elated about actually getting her over then massively bummed to see scotty go over instead.

Theoretically possible scotty is mafia but it's hard to see a vengeful mafia making that shot tbh so I'm just treating him as a town flip

Why? Not saying your wrong cause I have no idea and kinda am feeling like Scotty was actually town sadly but why wouldn't a wolf kill Lily?

Would town!lily forget to leave a legacy?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:02 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:52 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:46 am
Am I a wolf in the we are arch nemesis' way or in the you actually think I'm a wolf wash

Find out next time on Dragon Ball X to doubt

I don't know what this means

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:33 am Game *

Fuck phones

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:34 am Oh, I forgot to add a thing.

What's with the vote manipulation? Do we think it was someone who had their vote on Scotty who could move invalid votes to him or something? Or is it a game mechanic?

Either way I'll make sure to vote before deadline for the rest of the game so we avoid that

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:26 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:22 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:27 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:11 am Shadow vote porscha

I was elated about actually getting her over then massively bummed to see scotty go over instead.

Theoretically possible scotty is mafia but it's hard to see a vengeful mafia making that shot tbh so I'm just treating him as a town flip

Why? Not saying your wrong cause I have no idea and kinda am feeling like Scotty was actually town sadly but why wouldn't a wolf kill Lily?

Would town!lily forget to leave a legacy?

Entirely possible.

Also hi.

I have had a day. And I have 10 pages. And it's already 11pm. Chances of me fully catching up are slimish but I'm gonna give it a shot.

(Do we have any idea what night vote does @pyxxy? I meme voted for it because I thought Rondo was fucking around but now I realise it could be not.)

(Feel free to ask me questions until I inevitably succumb to sleep)

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:33 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:34 am Oh, I forgot to add a thing.

What's with the vote manipulation? Do we think it was someone who had their vote on Scotty who could move invalid votes to him or something? Or is it a game mechanic?

Either way I'll make sure to vote before deadline for the rest of the game so we avoid that

The number of + votes doesn't = number of missed votes.

Idk if that's the actual mechanic.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:33 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:26 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:22 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:27 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:11 am Shadow vote porscha

I was elated about actually getting her over then massively bummed to see scotty go over instead.

Theoretically possible scotty is mafia but it's hard to see a vengeful mafia making that shot tbh so I'm just treating him as a town flip

Why? Not saying your wrong cause I have no idea and kinda am feeling like Scotty was actually town sadly but why wouldn't a wolf kill Lily?

Would town!lily forget to leave a legacy?

Entirely possible.

Also hi.

I have had a day. And I have 10 pages. And it's already 11pm. Chances of me fully catching up are slimish but I'm gonna give it a shot.

(Do we have any idea what night vote does @pyxxy? I meme voted for it because I thought Rondo was fucking around but now I realise it could be not.)

(Feel free to ask me questions until I inevitably succumb to sleep)

But forgetting to leave a legacy when multiple people called for Scotty to vig her?

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:35 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:33 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:34 am Oh, I forgot to add a thing.

What's with the vote manipulation? Do we think it was someone who had their vote on Scotty who could move invalid votes to him or something? Or is it a game mechanic?

Either way I'll make sure to vote before deadline for the rest of the game so we avoid that

The number of + votes doesn't = number of missed votes.

Idk if that's the actual mechanic.

Yeah, I pointed that out a couple of times. I meant ill make sure to vote on time so that we have full voting power and not (possibly random, possibly controlled) ghost votes deciding the Elim.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:36 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:33 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:26 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:22 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:27 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:11 am Shadow vote porscha

I was elated about actually getting her over then massively bummed to see scotty go over instead.

Theoretically possible scotty is mafia but it's hard to see a vengeful mafia making that shot tbh so I'm just treating him as a town flip

Why? Not saying your wrong cause I have no idea and kinda am feeling like Scotty was actually town sadly but why wouldn't a wolf kill Lily?

Would town!lily forget to leave a legacy?

Entirely possible.

Also hi.

I have had a day. And I have 10 pages. And it's already 11pm. Chances of me fully catching up are slimish but I'm gonna give it a shot.

(Do we have any idea what night vote does @pyxxy? I meme voted for it because I thought Rondo was fucking around but now I realise it could be not.)

(Feel free to ask me questions until I inevitably succumb to sleep)

But forgetting to leave a legacy when multiple people called for Scotty to vig her?

I mean. Yeah. I don't really have an argument in response. I just feel like lack of legacy probably isn't that strong a tell overall.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:36 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:35 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:33 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:34 am Oh, I forgot to add a thing.

What's with the vote manipulation? Do we think it was someone who had their vote on Scotty who could move invalid votes to him or something? Or is it a game mechanic?

Either way I'll make sure to vote before deadline for the rest of the game so we avoid that

The number of + votes doesn't = number of missed votes.

Idk if that's the actual mechanic.

Yeah, I pointed that out a couple of times. I meant ill make sure to vote on time so that we have full voting power and not (possibly random, possibly controlled) ghost votes deciding the Elim.

Wait. Town using their votes is a good idea???

*Pikachu face*

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:39 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:36 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:35 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:33 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:34 am Oh, I forgot to add a thing.

What's with the vote manipulation? Do we think it was someone who had their vote on Scotty who could move invalid votes to him or something? Or is it a game mechanic?

Either way I'll make sure to vote before deadline for the rest of the game so we avoid that

The number of + votes doesn't = number of missed votes.

Idk if that's the actual mechanic.

Yeah, I pointed that out a couple of times. I meant ill make sure to vote on time so that we have full voting power and not (possibly random, possibly controlled) ghost votes deciding the Elim.

Wait. Town using their votes is a good idea???

*Pikachu face*

Considering there was one more vote on Porscha than Scotty when the three ghost votes pushed Scotty over, and we had five people including myself not voting at all, we mightve had a different outcome if all nonvoters had voted.

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:06 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:48 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:46 am thanks. I sr'd long con, wwa is still like meh for me, lily is sr, I would need to check brad again but I kinda felt like he got cleared overly quickly and I didnt like that but maybe i'm also the bozo

I think the read Brad made on me is not a read he would've made a scum
He would try to pocket me by townreading me as scum, but I don't think he would've explained his read in the exact way he did.

oh true I forgot you're a woman and that was brad. my bad lol

Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:16 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:06 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:47 am Wait wait wait, so... I'm on page 11 but there were more votes on porscha than on scotty? Or so it looks? Is that why boq said porscha is outed? Cause if so, I can totally see that, yeah.

I think svs's vote on lily is a poor excuse but I think it's so abrupt and bad that it's towny

And I'm not sure why scotty said he was trying something and voted me, but I'm not done reading yet. I should actually check what the vote count at EoD was but all I paid attention to was my own lack of vote lol, I gotta get back to work but at least I have a little more context now on what went down.

well I didn't vote scotty so I'm not sure what made up mechanic we are fake applying to scotty's wagon that isn't confirmed that surely must have been all my doing while I wasn't here, yup lmao

This feels rand>wolfy

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:19 am porscha does seem wolfy here and the mech at eod seems bad for her but i dunno

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:19 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:46 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:52 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:00 am

Night 1 Vote
Seanzie/pyxxy (3 votes) - pyxxy, EnderWiggin, Princess Abigail
Bereft (2 votes) - Long Con, Marmot
Long Con (1 votes) - Cape90, Porscha
DrWilgy (1 vote) - S~V~S
S~V~S (1 vote) - DrWilgy
lilypetal (1 vote) - robyn
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (1 vote) - NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Did not vote (5 votes) - JackofHearts2005, Boquise, WindwardAway, Lime Coke, Bereft, Lilypetal

@Long Con do you know why you only had one vote in the night poll when two people voted for you? I'm not shading you here; I think maybe I was paranoid of you, you having fooled me the last two games we played.

No, I assume it's a typo? @Justplayingitcool

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:58 am Also, the Spooky Announcement appears to be about you, Long Con. "Cerberus Con" in the village of Lostpedia, lol.

Indeed!

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:18 am I'm booooooored

Someone kill long con

Sure, let's do that. No one cares if you're bored, chief.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:27 am

Long Con wrote: LOL my defense against what?

Your defense against why you shouldn't be a wagon today
I'm curious because you've definitely seen more than one player say they'd be willing to vote you

Ok... I'm town.

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:32 am also porscha town

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:18 am

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:40 am i'm well within wolf range, and i'm gonna hold a 100% townread on schweppes/bereft, can you elaborate on boq and svs

i'm also fairly confident in ender being town

I talked about boq earlier. I think the way he described how Porsche was coming across and why her behavior seemed wolfy pinpointed my exact interpretation of it, but in a much better way. It felt nuanced enough to be towny. In the end I disagreed with his conclusion because I decided Porscha was town, but I don't disagree with boq's methodology or observations. I can see all of that coming from town who thinks they're on the right track and is working off small details that they normally catch wolves for.

Svs i don't have much elaboration on, it's just what I said before about her nonchalant vote on lily being so bad that it probably came from town (when she said it's between marmot and lily, but marmot said he had wifi issues, so she would vote lily instead). Like, I don't think svs would be oblivious to the risk that she would get widely wolfread for how bad that vote was in a game where votes are locked.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:12 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:11 am

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 12:09 am [VOTE: Nook] aubergine

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:45 am i would strongly prefer nook to die over scotty for sake of content

also nook, given your content what do you think about lily’s tr on you?

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:50 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:49 am

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:45 am i would strongly prefer nook to die over scotty for sake of content

also nook, given your content what do you think about lily’s tr on you?

Idk if she trs me or not but atp it's entirely reasonable if she does imo

what have you done for someone to get a town gutread on you

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:53 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:51 am Either Nook or Porscha to me I don't feel like voting Scotty.

go porscha imo

(this is my implicit response to u nook)

this shit makes 0 sense if robyn is town

like

idk

in a setup where ur vote is final how can u possibly vote nook then ask nook probing questions to discern alignment? it just seems entirely fake

and the last post is just awful lol

gives me the vibe of a wolf who is going through the motions

Oh yeah, wolf!Robyn would definitely want Scotty to die over Nook based on that
Yikes

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:12 am robyn is powerwolfing in the most boring way possible

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:33 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:26 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:22 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:27 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:11 am Shadow vote porscha

I was elated about actually getting her over then massively bummed to see scotty go over instead.

Theoretically possible scotty is mafia but it's hard to see a vengeful mafia making that shot tbh so I'm just treating him as a town flip

Why? Not saying your wrong cause I have no idea and kinda am feeling like Scotty was actually town sadly but why wouldn't a wolf kill Lily?

Would town!lily forget to leave a legacy?

Entirely possible.

Also hi.

I have had a day. And I have 10 pages. And it's already 11pm. Chances of me fully catching up are slimish but I'm gonna give it a shot.

(Do we have any idea what night vote does @pyxxy? I meme voted for it because I thought Rondo was fucking around but now I realise it could be not.)

(Feel free to ask me questions until I inevitably succumb to sleep)

But forgetting to leave a legacy when multiple people called for Scotty to vig her?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:57 am My brain theory rn has 2 wolves in WWA/Porscha/Lily/Abi and I keep changing my mind on which ones.

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:49 am Nook is a wolf for reading my posts enough to pair me with lily and then still come into today doing nothing but tunneling me and he and boq will probably do that all day if I had to guess