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Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:48 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:42 am Yeah I assume you can make some wild speculation about the Magpie message received, but in that game the 3p didn't notify people.

Again, Magpie is on an album with only civvies, which is King Of The Limbs/

I thought it KOL had no mafia on it. Not that it was only town?

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:54 am**

Herm's role says - if there is one non-civillian associated with that album, he'd get a glimpse of that.

Herm then said KOL had 0 scum, which leaves the last option of having non-civvies and Master Radishes was probably notified.

I could be reading it wrong but you should re-read Herm's role again.

Him saying (0 scum) I associated with not having any non-civvies on it because of his role.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:54 am**

he'd get a glimpse of that role*

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:01 am**

tried looking for other independent designs of Sloonei's but most of them were co-hosted so it's not fully his creation.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:07 am**

Lol, spf should be mech cleared here.

[mention]Poison Chan[/mention] explain again how your second condition works?

talking about this

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:14 pm 2.If the 3P ever targets you you'll not get the list of 3 songs from which you can choose to inspect the role.

if Poison doesn't have songs tomorrow, spf just outed herself kekw

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:08 am**

if Poison has songs tomorrow = spf mech clear

if Poison doesn't have songs tomorrow = spf mech locked 3p

simple enough?

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:09 am**

Inno child

tedxtr
Dizzy

Mech clear, more or less

Oddmerta

Mech clear today or outed tomorrow, we'll see

spf

Probably not 3p ; if she lied about her second condition then she's outed 3p

Poison Chan

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PoE : juliets / Mac / Long Con / Nanook

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:11 am**

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:14 pm 2.If the 3P ever targets you you'll not get the list of 3 songs from which you can choose to inspect the role.

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:01 am Good morning Mr. Magpie

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:06 am I used The role card and got High and Dry. Civ. Conditional tracker and can make a post upon their death. I'll elaborate on it later.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:18 am**

Lolololol

So SPF just clear, nice

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:20 am**

Ok so I'll let you all know how it goes from my PoV

I'll yeet LC today and it's solely because of juliets' first point from her case.

I think LC is the type of person to be on weed and make an interaction like that as a 3p, ergo having a shit role in order to be soft-cleared later on.

And if he flips 3p because of it then I'm gonna laugh my ass off

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:20 am**

also I did target him with my non-manip ability so

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:25 am**

also - I just don't buy the explanation of "the other person doesn't know we can't target each other"

LC with tutuu acting like he'd die because of that when likely it is that the votes don't count also doesn't sit well with me

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Thinking exercise

I'm LC. My role says I can't target the other person and they can't target me.

Why does he make a show out of it yesterday about tutuu not being able to vote him? I mean, if you aren't notified of it, then it's very likely that from a host's perspective, even if you vote for each other, the vote just doesn't count.

No?

But what he did was vote tutuu, then unvote her and told tutuu she can't vote him

Does that make sense at all to anyone else? I might have not put the dot on the i here and just rambled without getting to the actual point here.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:27 am**

I think it was all for show it's my point

If you are LC, you know that the other person isn't notified, right?

So what's the whole fuss about tutuu not being able to vote him there?

Why would that bother him in that scenario?

Idk it might sound like a moot point but I didn't get why he went out of his way to do that? You know tutuu can't vote you in the end, so...?

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:30 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:02 am [VOTE: Tutuu] aubergine

I don't believe a word she says at this point, and trying to pin this on me is both desperate and distasteful.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:04 am Wait, I can't. And you can't.

Tutuu, we can't vote for each other.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:04 am [VOTE: no one] aubergine

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:06 am tutuu does not seem aware that I targeted her last night with my power.

he never even described it as if the other person gets notified

I swear I saw him saying the other person doesn't get notified.

Either way - if he implies his role notifies other people

raise your hand if you were ever targeted with any of this.

[mention]Long Con[/mention] who did you target last night?

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:32 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:31 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:34 am LC does the recipient of your action not receive a notification that they can't vote on you?
I don't know, I haven't used it yet. I think the utility increases dramatically at endgame, while being kind of useless for the first 3/4 of the game.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:32 am**

Did LC waste his first shot on tutuu yesterday?

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:34 am**

If you are town!LC, don't you ask tutuu first if she was notified of the check in order to understand your role and POTENTIALLY CLEAR YOU???

Instead of suggesting you used it and THEN say "oh I guess she wasn't notified"

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:44 am**

I think that interaction is >rand 3p equity because

1) If the ability was real, and he was thinking tutuu should've been notified (which he did - his reaction after that was "Oh, I guess she wasn't notified?") don't you ask her first if she received the notification and potentially clear you?

Why don't you do that? The claim is probably fake and he knows that he can't get cleared.

2) He made a point of his ability being true and guiding it in thread while not ever questioning how tutuu didn't get notified. Imo, as a town, if you have that role, you have one of two reactions :

a. my role doesn't notify
b. i was roleblocked
c. shenanigans that ought to be explored because you don't understand what happened

why did he never theorise as to being roleblocked if he thought tutuu should've been notified?

I think it's because he was trying to prove his ability is legit by guiding actions in thread and getting a slight bit more credit, even if it made him look even worse in the end.

so, from scenario a) you remain with Sloonei just ignoring your 2 votes in the end, which makes the most sense, but he never thought about it and was instead trying to guide the votes.

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Point here being, he skipped any thoughts regarding how his role works or what happened to his actions from his PoV and what that would mean for tutuu or him, and acted as if the action went through, 100%, no doubt.

Why? He was trying to push the agenda of his role working and being legit.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:49 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:38 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:36 am Lol, I cannot vote Long Con today
I had to light a fire under our host's ass.

I can't vote for tutuu but I totally endorse her getting chop't today.

Nevermind?

I guess we have our confirmation lol

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:50 am**

lol does that make LC town? I guess 3p could have a one-shot ability of that or something, but I kinda wanna think he's town

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:56 am**

tbh very tempted to just yeet Mac here, partly because he's the only unknown role in what appears to be a 3 person PoE fmpov at least

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:02 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:56 am tbh very tempted to just yeet Mac here, partly because he's the only unknown role in what appears to be a 3 person PoE fmpov at least

Mac has been on my mind as well. He's played an outstanding game but could still be 3P. Reading his ISO would be a daunting task but I may try to go through it today. I still see the same things I saw about LC though. I laid off him yesterday because I don't want to tunnel to a wrong conclusion, but this morning Mac was seeing the same things I saw. Looks like another hard day.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:04 am**

technically - that stuff shouldn't make LC town, it just proves that he did have that ability.

I'll come back to this

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:05 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:04 am technically - that stuff shouldn't make LC town, it just proves that he did have that ability.

I'll come back to this

Yes, my thought is it is part of a larger ability.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:06 am**

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:05 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:04 am technically - that stuff shouldn't make LC town, it just proves that he did have that ability.

I'll come back to this
Yes, my thought is it is part of a larger ability.

Iirc LC even admitted to this earlier but I may misremember stuff

around the time I was suggesting the Poison plan

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:06 am**

Idk I’m pretty deep in Mac’s pocket at this point

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:09 am**

I think I may have an argument that could prove juliets is town here but it may seem like a stretch and I don't wanna put stuff in thread that I'm not sure about, never leads anywhere good.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:09 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:06 am Idk I’m pretty deep in Mac’s pocket at this point

It's just an uneasy thought for me because he has been above suspicion the whole game because of his towny play. I just don't want to not consider the possibility.

What is the reason we have cleared Odd from 3P again?

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:10 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:29 am Ok, narrowing it down

Kid A and Amnesiac albums don't have 3p.

King of the Limbs don't have 3p either, me thinks.

Here's the process for Amnesiac album.

Oddmerta claimed Herm is town, now if we read Herm's PM, it says a random town will be notified if there aren't any non-civs on the album.

Herm claimed Amnesiac and Kid A don't have non-civvies on them, and Oddmerta said he KNEW herm was town - which makes me think Oddmerta got notified and he is from the Amnesiac album, which is why I don't think he's 3p.

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We know me, oddmerta, spf are on albums without 3ps (Kid A, Amnesiac, King of the Limbs)

That leaves Mac, Poison, Dizzy, LC, Nanook, Juliets

juliets ^

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:12 am**

The only scenario where Oddmerta would claim he knows Herm is town there would be if he's 3p with a role peek

and still...

he'd have to gambit the amnesiac person that was notified not being alive

I think it's pretty good evidence but if you can find holes then I encourage you to poke them

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:14 am**

Thanks ted. Is there a reason Odd has to be the Amnesiac album over Kid A? And thats a good reminder about SPF.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:16 am**

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:14 am Thanks ted. Is there a reason Odd has to be the Amnesiac album over Kid A? And thats a good reminder about SPF.

I can't answer that.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:17 am**

regardless of what it may be ; he'd still have to be taking the same gambit

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:18 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:16 am
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:14 am Thanks ted. Is there a reason Odd has to be the Amnesiac album over Kid A? And thats a good reminder about SPF.
I can't answer that.

Ok.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:18 am**

Also, I've already made another argument for SPF on the last page that should either confirm her our out her tomorrow.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:19 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:07 am Lol, spf should be mech cleared here.

@Poison Chan explain again how your second condition works?

talking about this

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:14 pm 2.If the 3P ever targets you you'll not get the list of 3 songs from which you can choose to inspect the role.
if Poison doesn't have songs tomorrow, spf just outed herself kekw

^

along her being on the KOL album

should be very lock clear material

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:20 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:11 am
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:14 pm 2.If the 3P ever targets you you'll not get the list of 3 songs from which you can choose to inspect the role.

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:01 am Good morning Mr. Magpie

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:06 am I used The role card and got High and Dry. Civ. Conditional tracker and can make a post upon their death. I'll elaborate on it later.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:22 am**

Time for breakfast. Thanks ted!

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:26 am**

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:01 am
Herm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:18 pm My album is also The King of Limbs, so I assume me and Rasishes are the only ones with that album, which probably explains why I was seen visiting.

So once I'm miseliminated, just continue the game with that info in mind.
Oh lol, sorry about that typo Radish.

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] herm was seen visiting Radishes here, this is the person he should've notified.

SPF is mechanically confirmed town. Who else?

My PoE is you / juliets / nanook / LC right now.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:28 am**

What silliness. [VOTE: mac] aubergine

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:29 am**

I'll probably work on a huge legacy post;

I get the feeling that either my walls are formatted poorly or it's hard for people to follow through my logic so I will work on making an easy post with why certain people are cleared.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:33 am**

I didn't read your biggest wall.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:35 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:33 am I didn't read your biggest wall.

I have many walls so I don't know which one you're referring to :P

I will try and say like

SPF -

*spoiler with why they're cleared*

etc etc

maybe that works best

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:36 am**

No, the one on this page waiting time theorizing about .y role use on tutuu.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:36 am**

*wasting time

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:36 am**

Yeah, don't read it lol, that one's fine not to read

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:39 am**

[mention]tedxtr[/mention] you good to hit Mac tonight?

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:39 am**

The reasons to vote me are all really silly, and ultimately boils down to me being a slacker, which I won't try to defend against.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:40 am**

Goddamn autocorrect... "slanker"

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:41 am**

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:39 am @tedxtr you good to hit Mac tonight?

this implies we won't yeet him today which I have no guarantee of

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