Re: Game of Champions 2022 D4
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:59 am
ok any final questions? I am going to bed
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
Yes it would be extremely funny if that was the caseRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:57 amcorrect. They check and balance each other. So unless they have been fucking with me and are both wolves or both 3p same faction its highly unlikely both are badPorscha wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:55 amOoooooooooooooohkay. And they know who you checked. And you think they wont screw you over even if you die and will remain truthful.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:55 amno I checked other people, not the people I am in the neighbourhood with. I claimed to them and didnt die so its highly likely they are 3p or townPorscha wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:53 amUm... alright I still dont entirely understand how this is fool proof or why youd need to trust that at least 1 of them is town when you've already claimed to have checked them as a cop (or should I assume you only see role title and not alignment?) But ok lolRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:51 amI trust that at least one of them has to be town, there has been enough time that a wolf would have ended me by now for what I can do. They will go with the plan and I trust them to follow through. If they dont then I will take my licksPorscha wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:50 amSo if and when you die what is going to cause those individuals to reveal any useful information such as their alignments?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:48 am Ok ok @Neon @Porscha since its nice and boring and I am about to go to bed so I may as well let you know. I am a cop I have checked some people and I have put them in a secret neighbourhood and the two of them who are still alive will be able to tell you all if I die. So thats why I have been messing around looking all screwy and why it started on D2. I am not going to say who is in there and I am not going to tell you who I checked because then we can use that information in FX to RECK wolves. I die? They tell, they die? I tell. For now I have just been jazzing in the POE like @EnderWiggin has said.
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:48 am Ok ok @Neon @Porscha since its nice and boring and I am about to go to bed so I may as well let you know. I am a cop I have checked some people and I have put them in a secret neighbourhood and the two of them who are still alive will be able to tell you all if I die. So thats why I have been messing around looking all screwy and why it started on D2. I am not going to say who is in there and I am not going to tell you who I checked because then we can use that information in FX to RECK wolves. I die? They tell, they die? I tell. For now I have just been jazzing in the POE like @EnderWiggin has said.
there have been so many doubles I wont discredit him for that. Its more that I didnt hear anyone backing him up. I think I saw some bath and forth today about it so I am letting him be and letting them decide how to deal with himsig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:59 amRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:48 am Ok ok @Neon @Porscha since its nice and boring and I am about to go to bed so I may as well let you know. I am a cop I have checked some people and I have put them in a secret neighbourhood and the two of them who are still alive will be able to tell you all if I die. So thats why I have been messing around looking all screwy and why it started on D2. I am not going to say who is in there and I am not going to tell you who I checked because then we can use that information in FX to RECK wolves. I die? They tell, they die? I tell. For now I have just been jazzing in the POE like @EnderWiggin has said.
Okay well I like this better than a 7 person D&D server,
Do you rhink golden also has a neighborhood or is this why you don’t believe his claim
Porscha's pressure was enough, i let him be because he has funParty Crasher wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:44 pm@Michelle please shoot rondo. He claimed to be self resolving even if he dies. Well now hes refusing to resolve or do or say anythingRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:40 pmno, I dont wanna. You cant make me.Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:39 pmYou said youre self resolving. So, resolveRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:36 pm @Neon what is your town to mafia ratio now? 2:1? If you hit another town I am killing you
-t 3/100
-t 5/100
If i am sure is fun for him as well :shrug
Neon should have no tinfoil.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:20 pmIm not calling you bad as in the game. I am saying I am getting tinfoil on you. But Mac said you're town so I am going to try and not let it set inNeon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:12 pmThey aren't that deep since I spent most of lay night debating shooting 112 or GoldenParty Crasher wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:27 pm @Golden whats your opinion on keeping town vigs alive in positions where youre mafia and youre really deep and you know they wont shoot you?
-t 12/100
And i only chose 112 because of how I was treated after shooting a Creature that wasn't even that towny.
But funny enough I'm being treated just as poorly for shooting into the PoE by people now lol
I'm actually rethinking my Urist read because some of the thoughts today have been bad.tm.
well lucky for youEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:53 am Btw if Rondo hasn't self-resolved by the time I catch up I am going to find that a very bad look.
Okay nm if we have confirmation on this then Golden just clear 100%Golden wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:17 pm Tell you what Urist.
There’s a member of the dnd server currently in my neighbourhood.
I have specifically said they can tell your server. They can also verify I was in there, with Alison, alone.
Once you have that, I would ask you under what circumstances, if I’m wolf neighbourhood, I would neighbour Alison first.
Honestly, if you shot Michelle I'd've been mad.Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:16 amNeither SVS or Scotty were on my list last nightRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:19 pmMac was calling 112 in his town meta if I remember correctly, I was hoping you would shoot svs / scotty. But you're right you did shoot into the POENeon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:03 pmI literally shot into the established PoE...RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:20 pmIm not calling you bad as in the game. I am saying I am getting tinfoil on you. But Mac said you're town so I am going to try and not let it set inNeon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:12 pmThey aren't that deep since I spent most of lay night debating shooting 112 or GoldenParty Crasher wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:27 pm @Golden whats your opinion on keeping town vigs alive in positions where youre mafia and youre really deep and you know they wont shoot you?
-t 12/100
And i only chose 112 because of how I was treated after shooting a Creature that wasn't even that towny.
But funny enough I'm being treated just as poorly for shooting into the PoE by people now lol
I had 112 Rondo Golden Porscha and Michelle as choices.
This is wolf Rondo 90% of the time.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:37 amLOL, I was grumpy Ender lied. But now it makes sense. I would have took him with me 100% of the time, wolf or no
That was a joke.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:40 amno he said last night he was giving me a gun. I didnt fully expect him to give me a gun. But not going to lie, disappointed I dont have a gun. Now my threat to PC is emptyMichelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:39 amHe claimed he gave me a suicide vest?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:37 amLOL, I was grumpy Ender lied. But now it makes sense. I would have took him with me 100% of the time, wolf or no![]()
So you didn't know, right?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:02 amWtf.
I literally give a gun two nights and now it gives a Suicide bomb when I finally give it to someone I wanna keep around.
I have no clue exactly how my ability works tbh.Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:06 amSo you didn't know, right?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:02 amWtf.
I literally give a gun two nights and now it gives a Suicide bomb when I finally give it to someone I wanna keep around.
Help me find the best shot pls
Just stay in the pocket okay.Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:02 amHmm... maybe I've cleared Ender to easily.Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:00 amHey don't worry we die together, my so called gun is a suicide vestNeon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:58 amI fucking dare you to shoot me.Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:45 amHonestly i don't care. She is not townParty Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:44 am guys. and girls. i feel like at least 1, or maybe 2 of you are not understanding how neon's role works. when she says "choice" she means her role mechanically restricts her from choosing to shoot whoever she wants. she cant do that. she is given some criteria that she has no control over. and she can choose from that list only.
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Right now you've got a gun so take it put it to my head and pull the trigger.
You shade me because you don't understand what I'm saying it's explained to you and you say oh still wolf ignoring everything
If I'm a wolf pull the trigger and when I flip town can slam the noose over you because if there's a wolf between us it's never me. It's the one shading someone actually clearing the poe
Ender let me down with his action on me. Why give a town read a suicide vest? That's asinine
SVS is probably 3p but never Soup so we shouldn't be going there today.Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:02 amsvs offered her life by voting mac and she buried marmotNeon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:01 amBecause SVS has been actively anti townParty Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:59 amthis is all sloonei has to say why are u guys giving him a pass lol its so absurd
he's not making reads, all he will do this day is make some witty comments and be cute and u guys wont wanna kill him coz u have a crush on him thats literally it
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As pointed out by me somewhere in a spoiler
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I did. I am pissed at my role rn.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:03 ammaybe he didnt think you are town. @EnderWigginMichelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:00 amHey don't worry we die together, my so called gun is a suicide vestNeon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:58 amI fucking dare you to shoot me.Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:45 amHonestly i don't care. She is not townParty Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:44 am guys. and girls. i feel like at least 1, or maybe 2 of you are not understanding how neon's role works. when she says "choice" she means her role mechanically restricts her from choosing to shoot whoever she wants. she cant do that. she is given some criteria that she has no control over. and she can choose from that list only.
-t
Right now you've got a gun so take it put it to my head and pull the trigger.
You shade me because you don't understand what I'm saying it's explained to you and you say oh still wolf ignoring everything
If I'm a wolf pull the trigger and when I flip town can slam the noose over you because if there's a wolf between us it's never me. It's the one shading someone actually clearing the poe
Ender let me down with his action on me. Why give a town read a suicide vest? That's asinine
Do you remember D1 of the Hydra game when I couldn't find you town? I reckon I can get there anyway in most games but I'm not perfect at it tbh. I mean I got there this game pretty quickly but just saying I absolutely can get it wrong.Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:13 amNah, he can't misread me if he is townRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:03 ammaybe he didnt think you are town. @EnderWigginMichelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:00 amHey don't worry we die together, my so called gun is a suicide vestNeon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:58 amI fucking dare you to shoot me.Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:45 amHonestly i don't care. She is not townParty Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:44 am guys. and girls. i feel like at least 1, or maybe 2 of you are not understanding how neon's role works. when she says "choice" she means her role mechanically restricts her from choosing to shoot whoever she wants. she cant do that. she is given some criteria that she has no control over. and she can choose from that list only.
-t
Right now you've got a gun so take it put it to my head and pull the trigger.
You shade me because you don't understand what I'm saying it's explained to you and you say oh still wolf ignoring everything
If I'm a wolf pull the trigger and when I flip town can slam the noose over you because if there's a wolf between us it's never me. It's the one shading someone actually clearing the poe
Ender let me down with his action on me. Why give a town read a suicide vest? That's asinine
Yeah, but a lot of people scumread Wilgy so I wanted to if my ability did something different at least hit a target that would force people to re-eval.Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:53 amI'm like 99% sure ender also gave wilgy the gun when he tr'd wilgy... like hard tr'd wilgy more than anyone else at that point in the game tbhNeon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:02 amHmm... maybe I've cleared Ender to easily.Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:00 amHey don't worry we die together, my so called gun is a suicide vestNeon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:58 amI fucking dare you to shoot me.Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:45 amHonestly i don't care. She is not townParty Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:44 am guys. and girls. i feel like at least 1, or maybe 2 of you are not understanding how neon's role works. when she says "choice" she means her role mechanically restricts her from choosing to shoot whoever she wants. she cant do that. she is given some criteria that she has no control over. and she can choose from that list only.
-t
Right now you've got a gun so take it put it to my head and pull the trigger.
You shade me because you don't understand what I'm saying it's explained to you and you say oh still wolf ignoring everything
If I'm a wolf pull the trigger and when I flip town can slam the noose over you because if there's a wolf between us it's never me. It's the one shading someone actually clearing the poe
Ender let me down with his action on me. Why give a town read a suicide vest? That's asinine
If you buy Rondo's claim, then noEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:12 amI was one of them I think.
Sloonei has felt disconnected and I figure could be a good target tbh.
Wow that would be some extreme bussing. I ISO'd them (when they were getting no suspish from anyone else iirc) voted for them repeatedly, tried to get a vig to kill them, argued with the town leader that Marmot was bad, very seriously expected to get shot last night becasue Neon seemed very irate that I thought Marmot was bad. I was pretty shocked she killed someone else, tbh. And pissing the vig off is a pretty bad idea in general. But OK I'm Marmots teammate, lol.Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:49 amCan SVS be a mate bussing? The team showed a high bussing activityDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:20 pm Both Kate and SVS also look very good from Marmot's flip. Both have been on Marmot throughout the game, and they both suggested Marmot as my shot last day iirc.
Is this why I have votes? I bussed Marmot?Neon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:26 amMarmot is always town here and I will die on that hill.S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:33 am I have heard people say bastard game, but what exactly is that? The host throws in a secret twist?
I always thought the point of a vig is to kill baddies, not sort out possible town. We've had two baddies vigged this game; this is like an extra chop round. I know this makes me look hopelessly old fashioned and I don't care
And I am gonna put in my vote for @Dyslexicon to vig Marmot.
They are the person I most find bad, they keep wiggling their way out of it. I think being a fruit vendor is a good, innocuous role to hide behind. I think their interactions with Sabi were super sketch, and I think they slipped up when comparing Neons game here to her bad game in Holes, which led me to compare Marmot here to Holes, and yeah, not the same Marmot.
I could kinda see this hm.Golden wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:04 amNah, what feels right is marmot expected scotty to die and took an unnecessary risk.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:18 pm Scotty should never be Soup unless they decided to actually have TWO soup vote mac yesterday.
Which feels weird af
Haven't seen his claim yet so I'll respond when I do.Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:14 amIf you buy Rondo's claim, then noEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:12 amI was one of them I think.
Sloonei has felt disconnected and I figure could be a good target tbh.
Golden is scum imo but the best course for him is the chop, and that's not in my power to doEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:13 amI have a very strong read that Golden is NOT Soup.
And I wanna hit a Soup today if possible.
So you're both a cop (Powerful role) and a neighbouriser FOR your cop-checks (Powerful role)RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:48 am Ok ok @Neon @Porscha since its nice and boring and I am about to go to bed so I may as well let you know. I am a cop I have checked some people and I have put them in a secret neighbourhood and the two of them who are still alive will be able to tell you all if I die. So thats why I have been messing around looking all screwy and why it started on D2. I am not going to say who is in there and I am not going to tell you who I checked because then we can use that information in FX to RECK wolves. I die? They tell, they die? I tell. For now I have just been jazzing in the POE like @EnderWiggin has said.
*I'VE* been actively anti town.Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:01 amBecause SVS has been actively anti townParty Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:59 amthis is all sloonei has to say why are u guys giving him a pass lol its so absurd
he's not making reads, all he will do this day is make some witty comments and be cute and u guys wont wanna kill him coz u have a crush on him thats literally it
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As pointed out by me somewhere in a spoiler
Ok, you're not soup mafia, i get itS~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:16 amWow that would be some extreme bussing. I ISO'd them (when they were getting no suspish from anyone else iirc) voted for them repeatedly, tried to get a vig to kill them, argued with the town leader that Marmot was bad, very seriously expected to get shot last night becasue Neon seemed very irate that I thought Marmot was bad. I was pretty shocked she killed someone else, tbh. And pissing the vig off is a pretty bad idea in general. But OK I'm Marmots teammate, lol.Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:49 amCan SVS be a mate bussing? The team showed a high bussing activityDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:20 pm Both Kate and SVS also look very good from Marmot's flip. Both have been on Marmot throughout the game, and they both suggested Marmot as my shot last day iirc.
Is this why I have votes? I bussed Marmot?Neon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:26 amMarmot is always town here and I will die on that hill.S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:33 am I have heard people say bastard game, but what exactly is that? The host throws in a secret twist?
I always thought the point of a vig is to kill baddies, not sort out possible town. We've had two baddies vigged this game; this is like an extra chop round. I know this makes me look hopelessly old fashioned and I don't care
And I am gonna put in my vote for @Dyslexicon to vig Marmot.
They are the person I most find bad, they keep wiggling their way out of it. I think being a fruit vendor is a good, innocuous role to hide behind. I think their interactions with Sabi were super sketch, and I think they slipped up when comparing Neons game here to her bad game in Holes, which led me to compare Marmot here to Holes, and yeah, not the same Marmot.
Or is it the lack of fire and WIM? Basically I'm LHF? We don't know how to slot her so let's kill her?
I am not on soup or any "lost wolf" group, I haven't killed anyone, I am not 3P. But even if I was 3P, I would think we need to drill down who is the (Probable?) last soup, maybe try looking in people who didn't aggressively try to kill one of them? The only fire and aggression I've shown or felt in the game, BTW. This game people have been clearing Marmot becasue a known teammate voted for them OVER another known teammate with a kill, as opposed to marmots trees. And I tried very hard to get rid of them, but I'm bussing, lol.
On a tangent, @Party Crasher why are you voting for sig? Afaik, he's lock town. When he killed Alison, I was not a fan of all the posts implying sig could not have just gotten a lucky shot through some astute reading. It's why I pulled the tie breaker out (Scotty pulled it out first, iirc, I brought it back out when people kept annoying trying to tie the wagons). It all felt kinda condescending at the time, "Oh Alison fooled me, no way i could be as simple as she didn't fool sig, and he shot her." Why is it so unbelievable that sig shot Alison? It's like people never heard of Occams Razor this game.
OK, gonna read back to when i went out last night. I should be here pretty much all day.
Ah, so this is why she did not shoot me last night.Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:44 am guys. and girls. i feel like at least 1, or maybe 2 of you are not understanding how neon's role works. when she says "choice" she means her role mechanically restricts her from choosing to shoot whoever she wants. she cant do that. she is given some criteria that she has no control over. and she can choose from that list only.
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I have a strong TR for Dizzy. I am not 100% convinced but also i don't want to shot himEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:24 am @Michelle What do you think of a shot POE of
Porscha
Guillo
Scotty
Maybe Sig
Maybe Dizzy
Any of those you'd hard take out?
Anyone you REALLY want to include in a shot POE?
I have reason to believe that list has some soup in it.
Same for me, is incredible how much midmeld we haveEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:25 am I am playing around with sussing Rondo again but idk if it's just because I hate how he's played this.
I am in the same boat on Dizzy except this day phase I'm not as confident.Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:27 amI have a strong TR for Dizzy. I am not 100% convinced but also i don't want to shot himEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:24 am @Michelle What do you think of a shot POE of
Porscha
Guillo
Scotty
Maybe Sig
Maybe Dizzy
Any of those you'd hard take out?
Anyone you REALLY want to include in a shot POE?
I have reason to believe that list has some soup in it.
Porscha was in Mac's TRs, so don't think is a good shot and i liked her tone in the convo with Rondo earlier
Guillo is afk, idk, maybe town vig can use a shot on him
So Scotty and Sig are the best from the list for me and i have no read on them