Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]

[KZA]

@BoKnows where did you send the pill

[staypositivefriend]

Ah.

[staypositivefriend]

did you try to shoot anyone, nanook?

[staypositivefriend]

@Hally - did you get the estate?

[BoKnows]

@BoKnows where did you send the pill

@Michelle

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Already claimed no shot last night

[Hally]

@Hally - did you get the estate?

no, esooa blocked you

[staypositivefriend]

@Hally - did you get the estate?

no, esooa blocked you

oh right

im tempted to be suspicious of her for blocking me when she knew that i have a protective role and a gift role, and since she was 100% confident i was town earlier in this game

[staypositivefriend]

actually yeah, esooa blocking me specifically makes me think she's probably just 3p/a wolf

[Strawhenge]

Ever since her 'unkillable' claim, I've been rolling the issue of Esooa around in my head.

I've already said so, but my immediate impulse with that claim is to yeet her just to see if she can be yought.

So here's a list of pros and cons of chopping Esooa, sorted by her possible alignment and TRUE/FALSE status of unkillable claim:

If Esooa Is Town, and the Unkilliable Claim Is TRUE
PROS:

• We finish the day without a mis-chop.

• We have a member of our team that scum can't kill.

CONS:

• We finish the day without chopping scum.

• It narrows scum's list of potential targets.

CHOP OUTCOME: Fairly null, slight lean toward decent.

If Esooa Is Town, and the Unkilliable Claim Is FALSE
PROS:

• Well, at...at least we know?

CONS:

• Mis-chop.

• Scum get to laugh at us. Probably call us names too. Darn scum.

CHOP OUTCOME: Bad.

If Esooa Is Scum, and the Unkillable Claim Is TRUE
PROS:

• Our free time that we would otherwise devote to the game is now open for literally anything else.

CONS:

• We wasted our time on a fundamentally broken game.

• Strawhenge never signs up for a game of Maphia on the website mafiathesyndicate dot com ever again.

CHOP OUTCOME: Fuck this. Also very unlikely.

If Esooa Is Scum, and the Unkillable Claim Is FALSE
PROS:

• Yay, we caught a scum. We deserve medals.

• We don't have to think about this unkillable claim anymore. Our brains are literally free.

CONS:

• None.

CHOP OUTCOME: Pretty great.

If Esooa Is 3P, and the Unkillable Claim Is TRUE
PROS:

• She claims she's out of x-shot abilities, so maybe that's also true, and she's just a tree stump.

CONS:

• High likelihood of a win condition that could still come true.

• A possibility that having the most votes at EOD is actually her win condition. (This possibility makes me the most nervous.)

CHOP OUTCOME: Bad.

If Esooa Is 3P, and the Unkillable Claim Is FALSE
PROS:

• Yay, we caught a 3P. We deserve medals.

• Like, no, seriously, I can think about other stuff now.

• 3P is likely not a killing role. An unkillable 3P who can x-shot a bunch of abilities and get a kill? Yeah right.

• A possibility that never being the EOD chop-vote is actually her win condition. (This makes me nervous, but I find it less likely.)

CONS:

• As in the previous scenario, what if the act of trying to chop her gives her her win condition, even if she dies?
  • CHOP OUTCOME: Decent, but also indicative of some real fuckery by our gracious host.

[BoKnows]

actually yeah, esooa blocking me specifically makes me think she's probably just 3p/a wolf

esooa is in prison

[BoKnows]

holy shit a wall of text has spawned

[Strawhenge]

TL;DR: I literally have no idea what to do about Esooa.

[BoKnows]

A possibility that having the most votes at EOD is actually her win condition.

A possibility that never being the EOD chop-vote is actually her win condition.

are these even real win-cons?

[BoKnows]

if they that is fucked

[BoKnows]

If Esooa Is Scum, and the Unkillable Claim Is TRUE
PROS:
Our free time that we would otherwise devote to the game is now open for literally anything else.
CONS:
We wasted our time on a fundamentally broken game.
Strawhenge never signs up for a game of Maphia on the website mafiathesyndicate dot com ever again.
CHOP OUTCOME: Fuck this. Also very unlikely.

Lol mood

[BoKnows]

the thought of esooa being unkillable scum has removed all serotonin from my brain. that's just crazy talk

[BoKnows]

what's the harm in voting out esooa this round?

[BoKnows]

sorry for posting like this but it's the journey to 1000 posts.

[Strawhenge]

A possibility that having the most votes at EOD is actually her win condition.

A possibility that never being the EOD chop-vote is actually her win condition.

are these even real win-cons?

The second one I don't see as likely in a balanced game. The first one, though, feels like a plausible non-killing win condition for a 3P. I don't recall if I've been in a game with something along those lines, or just read about it somewhere, but that possibility is the most nagging thought in my brain when it comes to Esooa.

[Strawhenge]

what's the harm in voting out esooa this round?

READ MY WALL

[Strawhenge]

what's the harm in voting out esooa this round?

READ MY WALL

But no, seriously, if Esooa is scum, there's no real harm.

If Esooa is 3P, there's some possible harm.

If Esooa is town, there's either no/negligible harm or just pain.

[BoKnows]

what's the harm in voting out esooa this round?

READ MY WALL

i read it

[BoKnows]

A possibility that having the most votes at EOD is actually her win condition.

A possibility that never being the EOD chop-vote is actually her win condition.

are these even real win-cons?

The second one I don't see as likely in a balanced game. The first one, though, feels like a plausible non-killing win condition for a 3P. I don't recall if I've been in a game with something along those lines, or just read about it somewhere, but that possibility is the most nagging thought in my brain when it comes to Esooa.

I feel like you got these ideas from the dark place of your brain and the mech madness brought it out. time to put it back where it belongs. if these are real wincons I'll be pissed

[Strawhenge]

A possibility that having the most votes at EOD is actually her win condition.

A possibility that never being the EOD chop-vote is actually her win condition.

are these even real win-cons?

The second one I don't see as likely in a balanced game. The first one, though, feels like a plausible non-killing win condition for a 3P. I don't recall if I've been in a game with something along those lines, or just read about it somewhere, but that possibility is the most nagging thought in my brain when it comes to Esooa.

I feel like you got these ideas from the dark place of your brain and the mech madness brought it out. time to put it back where it belongs. if these are real wincons I'll be pissed

I mean, same, and you're right about the madness, but I can't stop thinking about it.

[Esooa]

if you wanna lynch me I don't really care

[BoKnows]

A possibility that having the most votes at EOD is actually her win condition.

A possibility that never being the EOD chop-vote is actually her win condition.

are these even real win-cons?

The second one I don't see as likely in a balanced game. The first one, though, feels like a plausible non-killing win condition for a 3P. I don't recall if I've been in a game with something along those lines, or just read about it somewhere, but that possibility is the most nagging thought in my brain when it comes to Esooa.

I feel like you got these ideas from the dark place of your brain and the mech madness brought it out. time to put it back where it belongs. if these are real wincons I'll be pissed

I mean, same, and you're right about the madness, but I can't stop thinking about it.

fwiw I've never seen that wincon before. So I have comfort in that

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I guess we can test esooa's claim but ill admit I'm wholly uninspired by the thought

[BoKnows]

if you wanna lynch me I don't really care

what's ur wincon

[Strawhenge]

if you wanna lynch me I don't really care

You've made this abundantly clear, yes.

[BoKnows]

[VOTE: Esooa] aubergine

whatever.

[Esooa]

if you wanna lynch me I don't really care

what's ur wincon

something about winning by getting rid of all threats to town

did I get that right?

[BoKnows]

if you wanna lynch me I don't really care

what's ur wincon

something about winning by getting rid of all threats to town

did I get that right?

[BoKnows]

esooa didn't kill anyone

[BoKnows]

so maybe her inhereting the shot was a total amogus troll moment?

[KZA]

Can we not do this

[BoKnows]

Can we not do this

:rick:

[Oddmerta]

Alison ordered me to swap Hally and Esooa and I accepted th o se orders

[Oddmerta]

I also used the pill from BoKnows to roleblock Strawhenge

[Strawhenge]

I also used the pill from BoKnows to roleblock Strawhenge

Well, @Hally, did you get a typewriter?

[Strawhenge]

Anyway, I'm not as interested in chopping Esooa as I am in discussing the following:

• @Michelle surviving to D6 as a claimed cop, existing in a game with a scum team capable of superkills. I was satisfied with Michelle's response to my nervousness regarding her fake red peek on Alison, and I do trust y'all's meta-read of her, but I can't ignore the strangeness that she's still alive. At the very least, it warrants a re-examination. Michelle, who did you target last night and what was your result?

• @Justplayingitcool. As previously established, I still think he's the best choption as of this moment.

• @Oddmerta and @KZA and the possibilities that either or both of them is scum, following Alison's death.

[Oddmerta]

[VOTE: JPIC] aubergine

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

The only realistic argument for Michelle being mafia is that she killed Alison in case she was tracked by jpic

But I think that's more likely to apply to kza anyways, so meh

[Michelle]

I was targeting Alison who is investigated not guilty.
Nanook told me to do it, and this gave to the wolves my probably target, given my TR on Nanook

[Michelle]

The only realistic argument for Michelle being mafia is that she killed Alison in case she was tracked by jpic

But I think that's more likely to apply to kza anyways, so meh

I wanted to chop Alison

[Michelle]

Paranoia is a thing, who was never paranoid in mafia, raise your hand, and tell me how you're doing it

[Michelle]

the thought of esooa being unkillable scum has removed all serotonin from my brain. that's just crazy talk

There is not such thing as unkillable scum

[Michelle]

[VOTE: KZS] aubergine

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

Who wants to dance?
Poll runs till Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


BoKnows
0
No votes
Voters: None
Esooa
2
18%
Voters: BoKnows, Esooa
Hally
0
No votes
Voters: None
Justplayingitcool
3
27%
Voters: Oddmerta, Hally, KZA
KZA
2
18%
Voters: Michelle, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
Oddmerta
0
No votes
Voters: None
staypositivefriend
0
No votes
Voters: None
Strawhenge
0
No votes
Voters: None
Unvote
0
No votes
Voters: None
No Elimination
0
No votes
Voters: None
Let's dance (Host/Dead/Non)
4
36%
Voters: JaggedJimmyJay, dunya, nutella, novaselinenever
Total votes: 11

vc

[Michelle]

I was targeting Alison who is investigated not guilty.
Nanook told me to do it, and this gave to the wolves my probably target, given my TR on Nanook

Unless they redirected me again