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Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:00 pm**

I think you guys are reaching into tinfoil territory way too early

Additional evidence :

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:46 am I'm using flowery language to get my point across

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:49 am I appreciate the use of flowery language. It makes me feel at home lol.

This is referring to Herm's role or perhaps even the notification.

It's not weak, even if he cop checked him, he'd still have to be taking a gamble, again.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:02 pm**

Oddmerta doesn't die before any of juliets / Nanook / Mac imo

you can tinfoil him, but from where I stand, that is kind of strong

it's not "good" because compared to the other cases where it's 100% failproof, this isn't a direct result of his actions or somebody else's but speculation of events

but he still hinted to herm being town after explaining his entire role, when he PREVIOUSLY HAD A SCUM READ OF HIM.

looks pretty good from my side

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:06 pm**

Actually, you're right.

I could be biasing myself. I guess there's a loop hole to that.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:08 pm**

I still probably wouldn't go there without running into people that we have nothing to at least soft town lean.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:09 pm**

if this goes to F3 I'm gonna lose my mind

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:11 pm**

Poison, you should've had the songs sent, no?

confirm?

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:17 pm**

If it goes to f3 with odd/ted/spf then just kill odd obviously

Otherwise he’s more clear than anyone else so it’s fine imo

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:19 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:00 pm I think you guys are reaching into tinfoil territory way too early

Additional evidence :

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:46 am I'm using flowery language to get my point across

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:49 am I appreciate the use of flowery language. It makes me feel at home lol.
This is referring to Herm's role or perhaps even the notification.

It's not weak, even if he cop checked him, he'd still have to be taking a gamble, again.

I knew there was something about the flower! The thing I don't understand is how did Odd know Herm's song? But maybe it doesn't matter if Odd is from Amnesiac.

And ted, I'm just trying to do what Mac said which I think is correct - evaluate and re-evaluate. Poke at things unless they are 100% clear. Look at the glass differently if we don't get the results we expect. I'm not trying to exasperate you, though I know my questions can be annoying, lol!

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:24 pm**

I think you do have a semi good point, as in my theory about it does have some loop holes (mainly one - but I'd have to stretch a lot of things in order to confirm that), but it's enough to not worry about it for a while.

If we were to question every good looking thing, we wouldn't have a PoE.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:25 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:17 pm If it goes to f3 with odd/ted/spf then just kill odd obviously

Otherwise he’s more clear than anyone else so it’s fine imo

not more clear but the idea remains lol

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:27 pm**

yeah, no, just rechecked lol.

I am definitely not looking at Odd until everyone in the PoE gets flipped. The point is strong.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:27 pm**

I mean I’d say he’s more clear than mac/Jules, FMPOV at least? Possibly more than Poison, idk tho poison relatively clear.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:29 pm**

Oh man dizzy is alive too lmao

If there’s no NKs and we can’t win this game by f4 I’m gonna be so disappointed

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:29 pm**

The loophole is if he's 3p that role copped him and tried to let him know he knew his role and I may misinterpret that as him receiving a notification and him being on Amnesiac.

Like, that's pretty much the only loophole.

Why would a 3p do that though?...

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:35 pm**

Yeh it’s weird

But like

If it gets to f4 it just self resolves yeah? Actually f5 does...assuming continued no deaths, odd and poison resolve at f4/5 since we have three hard clears, so it’s probably fine

There’s a chance we lose sooner if 3p has a non-last man standing wincon, which seems entirely possible given that they don’t inherit the factional kill. So order probably does matter, but I also can’t imagine killing poison or odd before mac/Jules so

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:36 pm**

I am pretty frustrated that I am even in the POE tbh. I don't even think I should be and I think the only reason that I am is because people haven't bothered to ISO me.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:36 pm**

Something tells me this doesn't get to F4

Game probably ends either tomorrow or the next day after tomorrow.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:37 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:36 pm I am pretty frustrated that I am even in the POE tbh. I don't even think I should be and I think the only reason that I am is because people haven't bothered to ISO me.

Have you heard the word of the "Mechanics"

he's a kind of overlord :P

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:39 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:11 pm Poison, you should've had the songs sent, no?

confirm?

No I had only 3.
Used all three of them.
I have one lie detector though.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:40 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:17 pm If it goes to f3 with odd/ted/spf then just kill odd obviously

Otherwise he’s more clear than anyone else so it’s fine imo

I agree with this.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:42 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:29 pm Oh man dizzy is alive too lmao

If there’s no NKs and we can’t win this game by f4 I’m gonna be so disappointed

Dizzy locked town.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:42 pm**

Where did that emoji came from?

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:44 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:35 pm Yeh it’s weird

But like

If it gets to f4 it just self resolves yeah? Actually f5 does...assuming continued no deaths, odd and poison resolve at f4/5 since we have three hard clears, so it’s probably fine

There’s a chance we lose sooner if 3p has a non-last man standing wincon, which seems entirely possible given that they don’t inherit the factional kill. So order probably does matter, but I also can’t imagine killing poison or odd before mac/Jules so

Ye ye I agree with this tbh. 3P might not be lastam standing role.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:45 pm**

Anyways going to bed.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:46 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:35 pm Yeh it’s weird

But like

If it gets to f4 it just self resolves yeah? Actually f5 does...assuming continued no deaths, odd and poison resolve at f4/5 since we have three hard clears, so it’s probably fine

There’s a chance we lose sooner if 3p has a non-last man standing wincon, which seems entirely possible given that they don’t inherit the factional kill. So order probably does matter, but I also can’t imagine killing poison or odd before mac/Jules so

You seem to forget you are also in the POE.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:48 pm**

If Poison is going to lie detect she needs someone's song but I'm kind of scared for anyone to give her one because those known songs might be the key for the 3P.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:56 pm**

I played a star trek themed mafia game and I started watching the series

very cool

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:57 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:48 pm If Poison is going to lie detect she needs someone's song but I'm kind of scared for anyone to give her one because those known songs might be the key for the 3P.

That would seem like a good call.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:58 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:56 pm I played a star trek themed mafia game and I started watching the series

very cool

the original Star Trek or one of the others?

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:00 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:36 pm I am pretty frustrated that I am even in the POE tbh. I don't even think I should be and I think the only reason that I am is because people haven't bothered to ISO me.
Have you heard the word of the "Mechanics"

he's a kind of overlord :P

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:02 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:36 pm I am pretty frustrated that I am even in the POE tbh. I don't even think I should be and I think the only reason that I am is because people haven't bothered to ISO me.

Everyone that isn’t mech cleared or close to is in it dude

I mean I don’t think it’s you over Jules, but I definitely think you’re more likely than spf/ted/dizzy

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:03 pm**

The Original Series, started with The Voyager for like 2 episodes then I google'd in what order I should look at them

still kind of unclear, but right now I'm at the Charlie X episode from the original series and uhhhh, I thought it'd be hard to follow until the end but it's going a slightly less cringe way, at least for now

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:04 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:46 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:35 pm Yeh it’s weird

But like

If it gets to f4 it just self resolves yeah? Actually f5 does...assuming continued no deaths, odd and poison resolve at f4/5 since we have three hard clears, so it’s probably fine

There’s a chance we lose sooner if 3p has a non-last man standing wincon, which seems entirely possible given that they don’t inherit the factional kill. So order probably does matter, but I also can’t imagine killing poison or odd before mac/Jules so
You seem to forget you are also in the POE.

I didn’t, read it again. The assumption within the post you quoted is that I’ll be dead by f5 and f4, which is an implicit acknowledgment that I’m in the POE

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:04 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:36 pm I am pretty frustrated that I am even in the POE tbh. I don't even think I should be and I think the only reason that I am is because people haven't bothered to ISO me.
Everyone that isn’t mech cleared or close to is in it dude

I mean I don’t think it’s you over Jules, but I definitely think you’re more likely than spf/ted/dizzy

We're gonna lose to someone who is being mech cleared I think. Unless it's just you.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:05 pm**

TOS cringe factor is wildly variable tbh, sometimes it’s incredibly high and sometimes it’s the menagerie which is legitimately great TV

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:06 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:04 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:36 pm I am pretty frustrated that I am even in the POE tbh. I don't even think I should be and I think the only reason that I am is because people haven't bothered to ISO me.
Everyone that isn’t mech cleared or close to is in it dude

I mean I don’t think it’s you over Jules, but I definitely think you’re more likely than spf/ted/dizzy
We're gonna lose to someone who is being mech cleared I think. Unless it's just you.

We literally cannot lose to SPF/ted/dizzy

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:06 pm**

I was thinking that given the 3p has no kill that it's more likely that they have a wincon they are trying to achieve where they can win with the town while we're trying to kill them for no apparent reason but that can't claim 3p because Sloonei has just banned them doing so.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:06 pm**

Unless you’re the magpie that self targeted

But uh

Seems unlikely!

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:07 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:06 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:04 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:36 pm I am pretty frustrated that I am even in the POE tbh. I don't even think I should be and I think the only reason that I am is because people haven't bothered to ISO me.
Everyone that isn’t mech cleared or close to is in it dude

I mean I don’t think it’s you over Jules, but I definitely think you’re more likely than spf/ted/dizzy
We're gonna lose to someone who is being mech cleared I think. Unless it's just you.
We literally cannot lose to SPF/ted/dizzy

If you say so.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:08 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:04 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:36 pm I am pretty frustrated that I am even in the POE tbh. I don't even think I should be and I think the only reason that I am is because people haven't bothered to ISO me.
Everyone that isn’t mech cleared or close to is in it dude

I mean I don’t think it’s you over Jules, but I definitely think you’re more likely than spf/ted/dizzy
We're gonna lose to someone who is being mech cleared I think. Unless it's just you.

That's why I'm looking at those who are cleared - I don't want to lose to someone that we cleared.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:09 pm**

I mean dude

For ted to be rogue poison and herm both need to have fucked up majorly

For SPF to be rogue poison has to be lying about her conditions for her role to work

For dizzy to be rogue poison has to be lying

So

Unless sloonei made an incredibly bastard game, which I doubt, those three are just locked town

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:13 pm**

And the prevailing wisdom is that it would be ridiculous for Poison to be clearing people if her wincon requires her to be mischopping people I suppose.

And Oddmerta is also clear via being on a record with only civs on it or something.

So really it's just between you and Juliets then.

But I just don't think it is.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:13 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:09 pm I mean dude

For ted to be rogue poison and herm both need to have fucked up majorly

For SPF to be rogue poison has to be lying about her conditions for her role to work

For dizzy to be rogue poison has to be lying

So

Unless sloonei made an incredibly bastard game, which I doubt, those three are just locked town

I don't recall what Poison has to do with SPF. Ted's explanation was about Herm. How does Poison figure in, I'm sure I've just forgotten.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:21 pm**

Poison says she doesn’t get the role card thing if the Rogue targets her at any time, she was magpied, we’re pretty sure that SPF is magpie, poison did get the rolecard thing, thus SPF is clear

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:22 pm**

I mean it’s possible that poison is 3p and her wincon doesn’t require her to be last one standing, so the clears don’t clear her necessarily

But she’s certainly lower on my list than mac/Jules

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:23 pm**

I was going to bed but I just realised how much I love haikyuu and I was re watching it.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:23 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:21 pm Poison says she doesn’t get the role card thing if the Rogue targets her at any time, she was magpied, we’re pretty sure that SPF is magpie, poison did get the rolecard thing, thus SPF is clear

Yes exactly.

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:26 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:22 pm I mean it’s possible that poison is 3p and her wincon doesn’t require her to be last one standing, so the clears don’t clear her necessarily

But she’s certainly lower on my list than mac/Jules

True tbh, but if we look at it that way, no one would be ever cleared unless the person clearing the other flips. But I think we should try to look at the bigger picture and take more actions in consideration?

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:30 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:06 pm I was thinking that given the 3p has no kill that it's more likely that they have a wincon they are trying to achieve where they can win with the town while we're trying to kill them for no apparent reason but that can't claim 3p because Sloonei has just banned them doing so.

Tbh, only two people cant claim here, you and Spf no? And odd? (not sure)

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:32 pm**

Sleeping for real now

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