The Syndicate

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:38 am Define neighborhood

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:40 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:38 am Define neighborhood

I think Rondo is talking about the DnD server, if I'm not mistaken.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:51 am I don't know what is going on with the hydra slot tbh. But I'm pretty sure I've read in flipped mafia's ISOs some of them being confused about the same, which would suggest them not soup mafia. But 3p definitely a possibility

sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:57 amEnder would be in the running for deep wolf mafia but that would only be if scotty is mafia

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:58 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:57 amEnder would be in the running for deep wolf mafia but that would only be if scotty is mafia

Why?

sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:08 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:58 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:57 amEnder would be in the running for deep wolf mafia but that would only be if scotty is mafia

Why?

I can’t imagine a mafia Ender not giving a gun to his teammate at some point.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:36 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:35 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:05 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 6:48 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:05 am A couple of self-centered observations I can make about living players:

Rondo's repeated insistence that Wilgy and I are somehow linked has been goofy. I do not know whether or not he has dropped that in the aftermath of Wilgy shooting his gun. But he brought it up multiple times, and each time it was bizarre.

Michelle has offered a couple of reactions to things in this game which have made me tilt my head and squint my eyes a little bit. Nothing major, and off the top of my head I can't actually recall what I'm referring to, specifically. But if you were asking me to pick out somebody who has been "dishonest", my mind might want to start there.

This does not constitute a Michelle suspicion.

I am a goof yes, no I am not giving it up because its funny to me

Hey do you remember that one time we wolfed together

Is that time this time?

No and you were there for it but I appreciate your humor

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:39 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:38 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:12 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:16 am Who would you kill if you had my vest?

@ everyone

Do you have to use it?

Since potentially taking out a town and you isn’t very helpful at this point of the game

Yes, i have to use it.
I am a villager. Find me a wolf to trade my life with, otherwise I die alone and this is not fun at all.

If I take a villager, be it a hero shot, be it a member of the Poe ask Ender why he targeted me with this vest.

I think it would be extremely funny if you killed ender with it

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:45 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:44 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:42 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:41 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:40 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:39 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:36 am

The game we lost pretty badly
Anyway that comment kinda sounded like that

please clarify "that comment" and "sounde like that"

"I am a goof yes, no I am not giving it up because its funny to me" reminds me of something wolf you might have said the time we wolfed together

You are right. But I am waiting for Sloonie to reply before I give a serious reply because I want him to see the reply so dont worry that is not a line of thought you need to follow for long

What *do* I need to do, rondo

Whatever you want, you're a good hunter. I am just trying to help you not waste time on me

Wow that might have been the worst possible answer you could have given me. I'm so unsatisfied and even more suspicious

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:00 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:16 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:19 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:03 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:20 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:12 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:27 pm @Golden whats your opinion on keeping town vigs alive in positions where youre mafia and youre really deep and you know they wont shoot you?

-t 12/100

They aren't that deep since I spent most of lay night debating shooting 112 or Golden

And i only chose 112 because of how I was treated after shooting a Creature that wasn't even that towny.

But funny enough I'm being treated just as poorly for shooting into the PoE by people now lol

Im not calling you bad as in the game. I am saying I am getting tinfoil on you. But Mac said you're town so I am going to try and not let it set in

I literally shot into the established PoE...

Mac was calling 112 in his town meta if I remember correctly, I was hoping you would shoot svs / scotty. But you're right you did shoot into the POE

Neither SVS or Scotty were on my list last night

I had 112 Rondo Golden Porscha and Michelle as choices.

Honestly, if you shot Michelle I'd've been mad.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:09 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:02 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:00 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:58 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:45 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:44 am guys. and girls. i feel like at least 1, or maybe 2 of you are not understanding how neon's role works. when she says "choice" she means her role mechanically restricts her from choosing to shoot whoever she wants. she cant do that. she is given some criteria that she has no control over. and she can choose from that list only.

-t

Honestly i don't care. She is not town

I fucking dare you to shoot me.

Right now you've got a gun so take it put it to my head and pull the trigger.

You shade me because you don't understand what I'm saying it's explained to you and you say oh still wolf ignoring everything

If I'm a wolf pull the trigger and when I flip town can slam the noose over you because if there's a wolf between us it's never me. It's the one shading someone actually clearing the poe

Hey don't worry we die together, my so called gun is a suicide vest
Ender let me down with his action on me. Why give a town read a suicide vest? That's asinine

Hmm... maybe I've cleared Ender to easily.

Just stay in the pocket okay.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:30 pm "The pyxxy kill is unaccounted for if sig is town"

Creature also shot pyxxy. But pyxxy was shot twice. Alison couldnt have known Creature also shot him. Alison was covering for a mafia shooting pyxxy n1

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:30 pm "The pyxxy kill is unaccounted for if sig is town"

Creature also shot pyxxy. But pyxxy was shot twice. Alison couldnt have known Creature also shot him. Alison was covering for a mafia shooting pyxxy n1

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:16 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:49 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:20 pm Both Kate and SVS also look very good from Marmot's flip. Both have been on Marmot throughout the game, and they both suggested Marmot as my shot last day iirc.

Can SVS be a mate bussing? The team showed a high bussing activity

Wow that would be some extreme bussing. I ISO'd them (when they were getting no suspish from anyone else iirc) voted for them repeatedly, tried to get a vig to kill them, argued with the town leader that Marmot was bad, very seriously expected to get shot last night becasue Neon seemed very irate that I thought Marmot was bad. I was pretty shocked she killed someone else, tbh. And pissing the vig off is a pretty bad idea in general. But OK I'm Marmots teammate, lol.

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:26 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:33 am I have heard people say bastard game, but what exactly is that? The host throws in a secret twist?

I always thought the point of a vig is to kill baddies, not sort out possible town. We've had two baddies vigged this game; this is like an extra chop round. I know this makes me look hopelessly old fashioned and I don't care

And I am gonna put in my vote for @Dyslexicon to vig Marmot.

They are the person I most find bad, they keep wiggling their way out of it. I think being a fruit vendor is a good, innocuous role to hide behind. I think their interactions with Sabi were super sketch, and I think they slipped up when comparing Neons game here to her bad game in Holes, which led me to compare Marmot here to Holes, and yeah, not the same Marmot.

Marmot is always town here and I will die on that hill.

Is this why I have votes? I bussed Marmot?

Or is it the lack of fire and WIM? Basically I'm LHF? We don't know how to slot her so let's kill her?

I am not on soup or any "lost wolf" group, I haven't killed anyone, I am not 3P. But even if I was 3P, I would think we need to drill down who is the (Probable?) last soup, maybe try looking in people who didn't aggressively try to kill one of them? The only fire and aggression I've shown or felt in the game, BTW. This game people have been clearing Marmot becasue a known teammate voted for them OVER another known teammate with a kill, as opposed to marmots trees. And I tried very hard to get rid of them, but I'm bussing, lol.

On a tangent, @Party Crasher why are you voting for sig? Afaik, he's lock town. When he killed Alison, I was not a fan of all the posts implying sig could not have just gotten a lucky shot through some astute reading. It's why I pulled the tie breaker out (Scotty pulled it out first, iirc, I brought it back out when people kept annoying trying to tie the wagons). It all felt kinda condescending at the time, "Oh Alison fooled me, no way i could be as simple as she didn't fool sig, and he shot her." Why is it so unbelievable that sig shot Alison? It's like people never heard of Occams Razor this game.

OK, gonna read back to when i went out last night. I should be here pretty much all day.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:20 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:01 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:59 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:34 am Anyway I do not know what all this urist commotion is about

this is all sloonei has to say why are u guys giving him a pass lol its so absurd

he's not making reads, all he will do this day is make some witty comments and be cute and u guys wont wanna kill him coz u have a crush on him thats literally it

-t

Because SVS has been actively anti town

As pointed out by me somewhere in a spoiler

*I'VE* been actively anti town.


I haven't killed a single civ, Neon.

Can you point out this spoiler, somewhere, please? I would like to see how my complete inability to keep up has been actively anti town.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:34 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:30 pm "The pyxxy kill is unaccounted for if sig is town"

Creature also shot pyxxy. But pyxxy was shot twice. Alison couldnt have known Creature also shot him. Alison was covering for a mafia shooting pyxxy n1

But wait, how did Sig know claiming the Alison kill would be safe?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:23 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:08 am Hi folks

I’m currently in the ocean on a boat with 20mb of Wi-Fi so I using it to say falcon is vanilla

Whether or not he is vanilla town or mafia or not is to be discovered.

Anyway, hopefully I get back to make a vote but I haven’t read. Die marmot die

Hi, last soup mafia that most everyone is ignoring.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:37 pmYou have quite literally only voted town lol

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:37 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:20 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:01 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:59 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:34 am Anyway I do not know what all this urist commotion is about

this is all sloonei has to say why are u guys giving him a pass lol its so absurd

he's not making reads, all he will do this day is make some witty comments and be cute and u guys wont wanna kill him coz u have a crush on him thats literally it

-t

Because SVS has been actively anti town

As pointed out by me somewhere in a spoiler

*I'VE* been actively anti town.


I haven't killed a single civ, Neon.

Can you point out this spoiler, somewhere, please? I would like to see how my complete inability to keep up has been actively anti town.

You have quite literally only voted town lol

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:40 pmI no longer thing sig is lost wolf. I think hes main pack. Here is how i explain their plan, if theyre mafia:

Alison claims kp d1. She has her teammate sig shoot a sus villager. She claims it, hoping that she gets townread and can control town and fuck us all up

Surprise surprise though, D2 rolls out and Seanzie the kp dies. Marmot almost gets cfd. Radish is being a vegetable. Things are looking pretty lost for wolves

Alison: "pings sig" u might as well yolo shoot me and go deep. Then try to win late game with our factional soup kill mechanic

Mac pointed out how sig shooting alison didnt make sense considering he townread her

I dont think that they were planning to do that during the day. Day 2. I think Alison was afk towards the end of Day 2. After she read what happened, she decided to go with that plan and gently ask (which means command for Alison) sig to go along with her plan

-t

-t

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:40 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:37 pmYou have quite literally only voted town lol

That's not true. SVS voted Mac on D2 because the plan was for some PoE players to vote Mac to get cleared. She was originally on Marmot. And she voted Marmot D3 as well. If anything, SVS would be bussing if she's mafia. The strongest argument for SVS not being town is that Golden and Kate has that read, and they know her, imo

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:44 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:37 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:20 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:01 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:59 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:34 am Anyway I do not know what all this urist commotion is about

this is all sloonei has to say why are u guys giving him a pass lol its so absurd

he's not making reads, all he will do this day is make some witty comments and be cute and u guys wont wanna kill him coz u have a crush on him thats literally it

-t

Because SVS has been actively anti town

As pointed out by me somewhere in a spoiler

*I'VE* been actively anti town.


I haven't killed a single civ, Neon.

Can you point out this spoiler, somewhere, please? I would like to see how my complete inability to keep up has been actively anti town.

You have quite literally only voted town lol

I should clarify...I don't have the D3 VC and I'm to lazy to find it

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:48 pmIt's frankly more suspect that they voted Marmot for 2 days straight xD.

But also I think they've over exaggerated their push on Marmot lol

I also don't really care why they voted Mac for one day when the condition wasn't accomplished in the first place. I don't think it's a particularly towny trait to have voted Mac regardless of the reason.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:14 pm Final Votes Day 3 - Feb 24 - 7:00 pm est

112 - (1) - Party Crasher
Guillotine (1) RondoDimBuckle
Kate - (1) - 112
Lilypetal - (7) - Golden, Michelle, MacDougall, Neon, Dyslexicon, falcon45ca, Sloonei
MacDougall - (3) - Scotty, Marmot, EnderWiggin
Marmot - (2) - Kate, S~V~S
RondoDimBuckle - (1) hollowkatt
Scotty - (2) - DrWilgy, Urist
Sloonei - (1) Lilypetal
No vote/unvote - (1) - sig

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:14 pm Final Votes Day 3 - Feb 24 - 7:00 pm est

112 - (1) - Party Crasher
Guillotine (1) RondoDimBuckle
Kate - (1) - 112
Lilypetal - (7) - Golden, Michelle, MacDougall, Neon, Dyslexicon, falcon45ca, Sloonei
MacDougall - (3) - Scotty, Marmot, EnderWiggin
Marmot - (2) - Kate, S~V~S
RondoDimBuckle - (1) hollowkatt
Scotty - (2) - DrWilgy, Urist
Sloonei - (1) Lilypetal
No vote/unvote - (1) - sig

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:49 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:48 pmIt's frankly more suspect that they voted Marmot for 2 days straight xD.

But also I think they've over exaggerated their push on Marmot lol

I also don't really care why they voted Mac for one day when the condition wasn't accomplished in the first place. I don't think it's a particularly towny trait to have voted Mac regardless of the reason.

Well we know Marmot was willing to vote for Mac, so maybe it's less towny to do it and not more towny tbh.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:37 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:20 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:01 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:59 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:34 am Anyway I do not know what all this urist commotion is about

this is all sloonei has to say why are u guys giving him a pass lol its so absurd

he's not making reads, all he will do this day is make some witty comments and be cute and u guys wont wanna kill him coz u have a crush on him thats literally it

-t

Because SVS has been actively anti town

As pointed out by me somewhere in a spoiler

*I'VE* been actively anti town.


I haven't killed a single civ, Neon.

Can you point out this spoiler, somewhere, please? I would like to see how my complete inability to keep up has been actively anti town.

You have quite literally only voted town lol

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:54 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:37 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:20 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:01 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:59 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:34 am Anyway I do not know what all this urist commotion is about

this is all sloonei has to say why are u guys giving him a pass lol its so absurd

he's not making reads, all he will do this day is make some witty comments and be cute and u guys wont wanna kill him coz u have a crush on him thats literally it

-t

Because SVS has been actively anti town

As pointed out by me somewhere in a spoiler

*I'VE* been actively anti town.


I haven't killed a single civ, Neon.

Can you point out this spoiler, somewhere, please? I would like to see how my complete inability to keep up has been actively anti town.

You have quite literally only voted town lol

Night one I did vote for Cape, so yes. I voted for Mac Night 2 (I had originally voted for Marmot) *becasue he and Scotty wanted me to*. To test my townie resolve. It's disingenuous to imply I was voting for him as a real vote, I did it to risk him killing me. And Day 3 I voted Marmot again.

Linki, seriously?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:54 pmNight one I did vote for Cape, so yes. I voted for Mac Night 2 (I had originally voted for Marmot) *becasue he and Scotty wanted me to*. To test my townie resolve. It's disingenuous to imply I was voting for him as a real vote, I did it to risk him killing me. And Day 3 I voted Marmot again.

Linki, seriously?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:45 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:40 pmI no longer thing sig is lost wolf. I think hes main pack. Here is how i explain their plan, if theyre mafia:

Alison claims kp d1. She has her teammate sig shoot a sus villager. She claims it, hoping that she gets townread and can control town and fuck us all up

Surprise surprise though, D2 rolls out and Seanzie the kp dies. Marmot almost gets cfd. Radish is being a vegetable. Things are looking pretty lost for wolves

Alison: "pings sig" u might as well yolo shoot me and go deep. Then try to win late game with our factional soup kill mechanic

Mac pointed out how sig shooting alison didnt make sense considering he townread her

I dont think that they were planning to do that during the day. Day 2. I think Alison was afk towards the end of Day 2. After she read what happened, she decided to go with that plan and gently ask (which means command for Alison) sig to go along with her plan

-t

-t

Mafia shooting mafia on purpose feels unlikely to me tbh. That's the problem I have with this theory. But I do agree with Sig's claim standing out and there being a vig shot that is uncounted for. So that part checks out.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:45 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:40 pmI no longer thing sig is lost wolf. I think hes main pack. Here is how i explain their plan, if theyre mafia:

Alison claims kp d1. She has her teammate sig shoot a sus villager. She claims it, hoping that she gets townread and can control town and fuck us all up

Surprise surprise though, D2 rolls out and Seanzie the kp dies. Marmot almost gets cfd. Radish is being a vegetable. Things are looking pretty lost for wolves

Alison: "pings sig" u might as well yolo shoot me and go deep. Then try to win late game with our factional soup kill mechanic

Mac pointed out how sig shooting alison didnt make sense considering he townread her

I dont think that they were planning to do that during the day. Day 2. I think Alison was afk towards the end of Day 2. After she read what happened, she decided to go with that plan and gently ask (which means command for Alison) sig to go along with her plan

-t

-t

Mafia shooting mafia on purpose feels unlikely to me tbh. That's the problem I have with this theory. But I do agree with Sig's claim standing out and there being a vig shot that is uncounted for. So that part checks out.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:38 am Define neighborhood

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:01 pm LLP was the factional kill, they had caught sabi and marmot and was consensus town

Pyxxy was the scummy villager that got double shot by Creature and the unknown wolf vig

@EnderWiggin give me a gun / suicide vest so i kill sig tomorrow pls

-t

sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:01 pm Sometime the simplest thing is true

PC/ Tuutu is either being super paranoid as seen by scum reading Rondo, Golden, and myself or is anti town trying to delay the game ending.


Follow on why would mafia have 2 of the same role? If they did why wouldn’t a mafia sig have used it night 3? Sean was able to shoot 1-3 if we’re saying there’s another mafia kill role why would I have shot Allison?

NOTE this theory is ignoring the golden theory. Which is why it literally makes zero sense. Shooting a mafia deep wolf, whose town core, being defended by Mac, and in a neighborhood with Golden?

No world does this make sense especially considering there were lurking mafia. If we subscribe to the mafia kill mafia for a clear one of the lurkers would’ve been shot

sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:03 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:01 pm LLP was the factional kill, they had caught sabi and marmot and was consensus town

Pyxxy was the scummy villager that got double shot by Creature and the unknown wolf vig

@EnderWiggin give me a gun / suicide vest so i kill sig tomorrow pls

-t

Zero reason to think there was a double shot and shit where are you even getting that creature shot Pyxxy?