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Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:33 pm
by Marmot
DrWilgy wrote:
Marmot wrote:But I do give you three players who have not been around today.

DrWilgy: Hasn't posted since the start of Night 3.
MacDougall: Hasn't posted since the beginning of Day 4.
TheFloyd73: Hasn't posted since Day 3.
Video games homie
Why didn't you tell your teammate that he's got votes?

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:28 pm
by DrWilgy
What do you mean?

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:25 pm
by MacDougall
I did post at the start of day 4 and I have been at work, playing Madden and then asleep.

Also let's just lynch Floyd.

Re: Day 1- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:31 pm
by Long Con
Quin wrote:
notsawyer540 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:I'm a redhead- I have no soul :cloud9:
Me too!

I don't really find Quin suspicious. But then again this is only my second game on this site and there are only a couple people I know well enough to make judgments on. Getting a civ read on LC. Not really sure if going after low posters is a good idea here, but I don't really have any better ideas yet, so it may come to that for me.

I'm a civ and I support Hillary Clinton.

Other than that, it usually takes me a few cycles to start putting things together. If Ron Swanson were in this game, I'd say he's guilty as shit for three days before realizing it was Donna right before I'm killed! :haha:

Anyway I'm gonna get back to watching TV and nursing this hangover. I'll check back in periodically.
Discrediting your own opinion on an argument while still making a point of giving it never looks good to me.
On my original read, I was comparing his and S~V~S' posts, and I thought Quin was making more sense than her, in comparison. Now when I look at it, I see Quin's accusation of notsawyer as a stretch. Reading notsawyer's post that Quin is criticizing, I just don't see it that way. I feel more like Quin needed an angle on someone, and put this one together to have something.
Quin wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Quin, I feel like you are not taking my efforts to lynch you seriously.
I'm not.
Not much to say here, don't know if Civ Quin or baddie Quin is more likely to dismiss and avoid.

... and this is as far as I have gotten on the Quin ISO. Going to work now.

Re: Day 1- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:13 pm
by Quin
Long Con wrote:
Quin wrote:
notsawyer540 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:I'm a redhead- I have no soul :cloud9:
Me too!

I don't really find Quin suspicious. But then again this is only my second game on this site and there are only a couple people I know well enough to make judgments on. Getting a civ read on LC. Not really sure if going after low posters is a good idea here, but I don't really have any better ideas yet, so it may come to that for me.

I'm a civ and I support Hillary Clinton.

Other than that, it usually takes me a few cycles to start putting things together. If Ron Swanson were in this game, I'd say he's guilty as shit for three days before realizing it was Donna right before I'm killed! :haha:

Anyway I'm gonna get back to watching TV and nursing this hangover. I'll check back in periodically.
Discrediting your own opinion on an argument while still making a point of giving it never looks good to me.
On my original read, I was comparing his and S~V~S' posts, and I thought Quin was making more sense than her, in comparison. Now when I look at it, I see Quin's accusation of notsawyer as a stretch. Reading notsawyer's post that Quin is criticizing, I just don't see it that way. I feel more like Quin needed an angle on someone, and put this one together to have something.
Quin wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Quin, I feel like you are not taking my efforts to lynch you seriously.
I'm not.
Not much to say here, don't know if Civ Quin or baddie Quin is more likely to dismiss and avoid.

... and this is as far as I have gotten on the Quin ISO. Going to work now.
My accusation of sawyer is the exact same as the accusation I made about Fredwood in just the last game, and he was bad. Why is it a stretch? It's a tried and tested baddie tell.

And, both. This is civilian Quin though. I'd be unanimously town-read if I was bad.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:18 pm
by thellama73
Epignosis wrote:Llama, you used a curious word in describing notsawyer: "Equivocating." How does this adjective apply to notsawyer? "Resolute" or "stubborn" is the word I would have used.
I'll have to dig up my original post where I accused him of that when I'm feeling less sick/tired than I am now, but briefly he spent part of Day0/1 saying things like "On the one hand... on the other hand... but I'm not sure... or it COULD be..." which I regard as a baddie tell. Baddies tend to be noncommittal (moreso than civvies) because committing to a viewpoint leaves you vulnerable when you are proven wrong (as baddies must eventually be). Granted he's being a lot less noncommittal in his case on you, biut only after I called him out.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:18 pm
by speedchuck
MacDougall wrote: Also let's just lynch Floyd.
Or someone could replace him if he's too inactive :grin:

Is that the reason? I haven't been paying attention

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:19 pm
by thellama73
DrWilgy wrote:What do you mean?
lol

Re: Day 1- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:21 pm
by thellama73
Quin wrote: And, both. This is civilian Quin though. I'd be unanimously town-read if I was bad.
Oh wait a minute! Just when I was about ready to plant Quin firmly in my Civ column, he lets loose with this howler.

"I'm playing exactly like a civvie. Nothing I'm doing indicates in the slightest that I am bad." The universal emotions of a frustrated baddie who feels he's played a great game but is losing anyway (I've been there many times.)

I really, really distrust this post.

Re: Day 1- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:23 pm
by Quin
thellama73 wrote:
Quin wrote: And, both. This is civilian Quin though. I'd be unanimously town-read if I was bad.
Oh wait a minute! Just when I was about ready to plant Quin firmly in my Civ column, he lets loose with this howler.

"I'm playing exactly like a civvie. Nothing I'm doing indicates in the slightest that I am bad." The universal emotions of a frustrated baddie who feels he's played a great game but is losing anyway (I've been there many times.)

I really, really distrust this post.
It's amazing how much you can take out of a post which says literally none of that :clap:

Re: Day 1- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:24 pm
by thellama73
Quin wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Quin wrote: And, both. This is civilian Quin though. I'd be unanimously town-read if I was bad.
Oh wait a minute! Just when I was about ready to plant Quin firmly in my Civ column, he lets loose with this howler.

"I'm playing exactly like a civvie. Nothing I'm doing indicates in the slightest that I am bad." The universal emotions of a frustrated baddie who feels he's played a great game but is losing anyway (I've been there many times.)

I really, really distrust this post.
It's amazing how much you can take out of a post which says literally none of that :clap:
It says all of that and more, Mr. Subtext. Clap while you can.

Re: Day 1- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:25 pm
by Quin
thellama73 wrote:
Quin wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Quin wrote: And, both. This is civilian Quin though. I'd be unanimously town-read if I was bad.
Oh wait a minute! Just when I was about ready to plant Quin firmly in my Civ column, he lets loose with this howler.

"I'm playing exactly like a civvie. Nothing I'm doing indicates in the slightest that I am bad." The universal emotions of a frustrated baddie who feels he's played a great game but is losing anyway (I've been there many times.)

I really, really distrust this post.
It's amazing how much you can take out of a post which says literally none of that :clap:
It says all of that and more, Mr. Subtext. Clap while you can.
I recall Long Con be the only one who wasn't also on the chopping block to express any degree of suspicion towards me. Would you not agree that it's unlikely that I'd be a 'frustrated baddie' at this point?

Re: Day 1- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:28 pm
by thellama73
Quin wrote: I recall Long Con be the only one who wasn't also on the chopping block to express any degree of suspicion towards me. Would you not agree that it's unlikely that I'd be a 'frustrated baddie' at this point?
No I don't agree with that at all. I see lots of reasons for you to be frustrated.

Re: Day 1- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:29 pm
by Quin
thellama73 wrote:
Quin wrote: I recall Long Con be the only one who wasn't also on the chopping block to express any degree of suspicion towards me. Would you not agree that it's unlikely that I'd be a 'frustrated baddie' at this point?
No I don't agree with that at all. I see lots of reasons for you to be frustrated.
Please do.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:29 pm
by Quin
list them*.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:34 pm
by thellama73
Quin wrote:list them*.
You know what they are.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:34 pm
by Quin
thellama73 wrote:
Quin wrote:list them*.
You know what they are.
No, I don't.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:36 pm
by thellama73
Quin wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Quin wrote:list them*.
You know what they are.
No, I don't.
Yooooouuuuuuuuu knoooooooowwwwww

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:38 pm
by Quin
:kadaj:

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:45 pm
by Long Con
I have to give this one to Quin. :srsnod:

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:52 pm
by Epignosis
Why is Floyd bad?

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:58 pm
by TheFloyd73
Long Con wrote:3. Where you stand on Floyd and why.
I stand on Floyd in the gutter, because that's where I assume he is lying, dead drunk or just plain dead. Does he get some sort of points for just signing up for Mafia games? I don't get this guy.
Ow, that hurts.
notsawyer540 wrote:One question I would like answered is: Have I really been forcing evidence to fit my conclusions, or has Epi's Fox-News-style misrepresentation of facts and events fooled too many of you?
That's Epi's just being Epi. I find it hard to read him as civ or scum, but that's his style of play. To be honest, you also implement forced "false news" as well.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:59 pm
by Marmot
TheFloyd73 wrote:
notsawyer540 wrote:One question I would like answered is: Have I really been forcing evidence to fit my conclusions, or has Epi's Fox-News-style misrepresentation of facts and events fooled too many of you?
That's Epi's just being Epi. I find it hard to read him as civ or scum, but that's his style of play. To be honest, you also implement forced "false news" as well.
Zing!

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:07 pm
by Long Con
TheFloyd73 wrote:
Long Con wrote:3. Where you stand on Floyd and why.
I stand on Floyd in the gutter, because that's where I assume he is lying, dead drunk or just plain dead. Does he get some sort of points for just signing up for Mafia games? I don't get this guy.
Ow, that hurts.
Hmm... that did come across as pretty harsh. Sorry dude. Funny fail.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:10 pm
by Marmot
Long Con wrote:
TheFloyd73 wrote:
Long Con wrote:3. Where you stand on Floyd and why.
I stand on Floyd in the gutter, because that's where I assume he is lying, dead drunk or just plain dead. Does he get some sort of points for just signing up for Mafia games? I don't get this guy.
Ow, that hurts.
Hmm... that did come across as pretty harsh. Sorry dude. Funny fail.
You can have my vote.

It's worth jack-shit today anyway.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:08 pm
by Epignosis
notsawyer now has five votes. If anyone has motive to lynch him, it's me.

I am not worried about defending him in this way and he comes up bad anyway. I think I've demonstrated I'm not bad and his actions against me show we're not on a team on top of that.

I want to know why he's guilty for gunning so hard for me.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:15 pm
by Epignosis
I'm about to pull my hair out.

Stop lynching people for doing things that are weird, inconsistent, unhelpful, or that you just don't like.

Tell me what they have to gain by doing what they do IF THEY ARE MAFIA.

If you are voting notsawyer, explain to me why he did what he did as mafia.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:18 pm
by Marmot
Epignosis wrote:notsawyer now has five votes. If anyone has motive to lynch him, it's me.

I am not worried about defending him in this way and he comes up bad anyway. I think I've demonstrated I'm not bad and his actions against me show we're not on a team on top of that.

I want to know why he's guilty for gunning so hard for me.
Why are you crediting your vote for no particular reason?

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:19 pm
by Epignosis
I don't understand your question.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:27 pm
by Epignosis
notsawyer literally has five votes:


notsawyer540
5
Quin (3), thellama73 (4), DFaraday (7), TheFloyd73 (10), DrWilgy (12)
33%

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:27 pm
by Epignosis
And right now my vote is worth chickenshit anyway.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:29 pm
by Long Con
Long Con
thellama73
MacDougall
Epignosis
notsawyer540
Dfaraday
TheFloyd73
Marmot
DrWilgy
Quin

This is a basic rainbow that I hastily constructed. I don't even know if it's exactly how I feel.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:31 pm
by Epignosis
Long Con wrote:Long Con
thellama73
MacDougall
Epignosis
notsawyer540
Dfaraday
TheFloyd73
Marmot
DrWilgy
Quin

This is a basic rainbow that I hastily constructed. I don't even know if it's exactly how I feel.
You called notsawyer a civilian earlier this afternoon. Why is he lower than MacDougall?

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:35 pm
by Long Con
I was thinking about Macdougall's good Day 1 performance.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:36 pm
by Epignosis
Long Con wrote:I was thinking about Macdougall's good Day 1 performance.
Can you explain what was good about it? He just seemed to rattle shit off.

Re: Night 1- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:40 pm
by Long Con
MacDougall wrote:Let's talk more about how I tone read a Mafia player on day 1 again.
You know, this whole thing.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:40 pm
by DrWilgy
Long Con wrote:Long Con
thellama73
MacDougall
Epignosis
notsawyer540
Dfaraday
TheFloyd73
Marmot
DrWilgy
Quin

This is a basic rainbow that I hastily constructed. I don't even know if it's exactly how I feel.
Ok. The hell m8?

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:41 pm
by Marmot
Marmot wrote:
Epignosis wrote:notsawyer now has five votes. If anyone has motive to lynch him, it's me.

I am not worried about defending him in this way and he comes up bad anyway. I think I've demonstrated I'm not bad and his actions against me show we're not on a team on top of that.

I want to know why he's guilty for gunning so hard for me.
Why are you crediting your vote for no particular reason?
Why should you have motive to lynch him, and no one else?

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:42 pm
by Marmot
I don't like Long Con's rainbow for various reasons.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:44 pm
by Epignosis
Marmot wrote:
Marmot wrote:
Epignosis wrote:notsawyer now has five votes. If anyone has motive to lynch him, it's me.

I am not worried about defending him in this way and he comes up bad anyway. I think I've demonstrated I'm not bad and his actions against me show we're not on a team on top of that.

I want to know why he's guilty for gunning so hard for me.
Why are you crediting your vote for no particular reason?
Why should you have motive to lynch him, and no one else?
He wants me dead, that's why. Does he want anybody else dead?

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:46 pm
by DrWilgy
Epignosis wrote:I'm about to pull my hair out.

Stop lynching people for doing things that are weird, inconsistent, unhelpful, or that you just don't like.

Tell me what they have to gain by doing what they do IF THEY ARE MAFIA.

If you are voting notsawyer, explain to me why he did what he did as mafia.
I saw his ruling of "my logic is the right logic because it's logical" as a means to not backtrack and that's what makes him bad in my head.

It is silly that he has 5 votes already however. So let's toss some votes elsewhere and see what happens.

I'm not sold on you being civ. This also applies to DF.

Let's lynch LC.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:47 pm
by Marmot
My suspect pool in every game would be large enough to swim laps in if I played by that logic.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:47 pm
by Epignosis
Why LC?

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:48 pm
by Epignosis
Marmot wrote:My suspect pool in every game would be large enough to swim laps in if I played by that logic.
He's not in my "suspect pool." That wasn't the question you asked me.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:48 pm
by DrWilgy
Actually I'm not even sure if it was a prevention of backtracking, but more so a bad argument that pinged me... :shrug:

Linki - Idk I need to review him

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:51 pm
by Marmot
Epignosis wrote:He wants me dead, that's why. Does he want anybody else dead?
What do you think about the second part of this question?

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:52 pm
by Epignosis
Marmot wrote:
Epignosis wrote:He wants me dead, that's why. Does he want anybody else dead?
What do you think about the second part of this question?
He isn't going for anybody else.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:58 pm
by Marmot
Epignosis wrote:
Marmot wrote:
Epignosis wrote:He wants me dead, that's why. Does he want anybody else dead?
What do you think about the second part of this question?
He isn't going for anybody else.
It appears as if he has just one suspect, that's my point.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:59 pm
by Epignosis
Marmot wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Marmot wrote:
Epignosis wrote:He wants me dead, that's why. Does he want anybody else dead?
What do you think about the second part of this question?
He isn't going for anybody else.
It appears as if he has just one suspect, that's my point.
You've lost me. He has one suspect. Nobody is disputing that.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:00 am
by DrWilgy
Epignosis wrote:
Marmot wrote:
Epignosis wrote:He wants me dead, that's why. Does he want anybody else dead?
What do you think about the second part of this question?
He isn't going for anybody else.
He konda went in on me abit.