The Syndicate

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 5:17 pm Oh and I forgot Quin ... Quin is pretty inscrutable to me and I don't like that.

Why do you read lapluie as scum again?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 7:07 pm Marmot - I still don't like your infamous vote, and the words that came with it. I don't like that you ask why the timing of it is suspicious, when that's been discussed already.

I don't know how much more we can gain from discussing this, so I'm ready to move on to other things.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 7:07 pmI'm uneasy of your active and involved play style (even though I really like it) cause I haven't seen it that much when you're town before. Although I remember you as pretty involved (and wanting to keeel me) in Phenon way back. I also think you're a good talker in general, so I have my smart ass filter on when reading you. : p

Lol, thanks!

I just finished playing Ancient Greece and Assassination Classroom, which both ended a week ago. I played with some fervor in Ancient Greece, and played pretty sparingly in Ass Class. I was town in both games, and mafia won both games. But if you want an example of me as active town, that Ancient Greece game is one that just happened. I've also already explained why my activity is up in this game. I'm not even using it as a reason to civ-read me, just explaining my activity.

If you find my content itself suspicious or don't believe my reasons, fine. But I want to ease the paranoia so you'll at least look at what I'm saying instead of letting that uneasy feeling sit around and dictate your read of me.

And I'm talking to the thread as a whole here, not just you.

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 10:22 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:49 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:46 pm Nice kill choice Jay.

You'd make that goofy-ass kill, Marmot.

That's more like an MP pitch.

Lol, a sample size of one burglary and you say it's characteristic of me.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 11:17 am I’m Shirt on time but nova’s kill is odd to say the least. Looks like he didn’t have many strong accusations except maybe wolbre. Can’t really link the kill to anyone

It might be too easy but I’m gonna start with a vote for [VOTE: wolbre] aubergine

But am also up for either marmot or MP.

I don’t wanna limit it to just them tho. I don’t wanna feel like I’ve been bamboozled by seemingly town looking players- that’s trouvle. But I currently have no reason to suspect jjj. Lol that’ll probably come in day 4 when he’s stil pumpkins water on the cistern and hasn’t been NK’d

Will check back later in the day

Why Marmot or me?

wolbre still seems hyperdefensive and I have no clue what to make of it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 2:38 pm @Everybody

Only two bad guys remain. It may seem early, but POE is your friend. If you can narrow the pool down to about five suspects, you're giving yourself a great opportunity. If you can't, then you have alerted yourself to the investigative pursuits you need to work on. With 2 mafia alive against 11 civilians, we can mislynch four times before arriving at a LyLo phase (assuming no prevented kills and no shenanigans). Also be aware that the presence of a temporarily lynch-immune bad guy can interfere with that considerably.

Well said, duly noted.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 3:08 pm I placed a gun to my head.

ColinIsCool - Civilian
Dyslexicon - Civilian
Elohcin - Mafia
Charlie Blackmon - Civilian
Kylemii - Civilian
lapluie - Civilian
M Plus 7 - Civilian
Marmot - Mafia
Quin - Mafia
Scotty - Civilian
wolbre04 - Mafia

What changed re: Elo and Quin?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 7:31 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 11:17 am I’m Shirt on time but nova’s kill is odd to say the least. Looks like he didn’t have many strong accusations except maybe wolbre. Can’t really link the kill to anyone

It might be too easy but I’m gonna start with a vote for [VOTE: wolbre] aubergine

But am also up for either marmot or MP.

I don’t wanna limit it to just them tho. I don’t wanna feel like I’ve been bamboozled by seemingly town looking players- that’s trouvle. But I currently have no reason to suspect jjj. Lol that’ll probably come in day 4 when he’s stil pumpkins water on the cistern and hasn’t been NK’d

Will check back later in the day

Why Marmot or me?

Your votes came together when the lynch was basically decided, on what I recall was flimsy cause. Any late train riders get my eye

I don’t remember all your reads on the matter because you write tomes and I haven’t done your iso yet, so you might have explained suspicion with choutis earlier but I just don’t remember

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 7:33 pm wolbre still seems hyperdefensive and I have no clue what to make of it.

Oh man that meme is so much more apt if we were talking about Charlie Blackmon

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 4:27 pm Does anyone know what Lapluie looks like as mafia?

Also, what is up with Eloh? She directly accuses Wolbre, and when Wolbre calls it out she1s like "why are you putting words in my mouth"? How do players who knows Eloh read this?

Elo is notoriously difficult to read because she routinely says weird things. I think she's probably bad because she isn't really doing anything.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 7:40 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 4:27 pm Does anyone know what Lapluie looks like as mafia?

Also, what is up with Eloh? She directly accuses Wolbre, and when Wolbre calls it out she1s like "why are you putting words in my mouth"? How do players who knows Eloh read this?

Elo is notoriously difficult to read because she routinely says weird things. I think she's probably bad because she isn't really doing anything.

Does not “really doing anything” = her bad meta?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 6:48 pm Mafia is a hard game, especially on Cindy Kate. Why is that?

We play weird?

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 9:28 pm Hello. I'm Charlie Blackmon, center fielder for the Colorado Rockies. I'm pinch hitting for Epignosis. So I hear there's an Easter egg hunt around here or something. I'm interested in hunting.

It’s good to know you’re interested, because I wouldn’t have known. Do you need a pinch hitter?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 7:02 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 6:53 pmFunny you say that in a game where we lynch mafia on Day 1.

It's still a hard game.

Story time - On PerC, there's said to be a curse that goes somewhat like this: If town lynches mafia D1 they are sure to lose in the end. It's been true so many times. I don't think Cindy Kate has that same curse though. o.o

That's disheartening.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 7:37 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 7:31 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 11:17 am I’m Shirt on time but nova’s kill is odd to say the least. Looks like he didn’t have many strong accusations except maybe wolbre. Can’t really link the kill to anyone

It might be too easy but I’m gonna start with a vote for [VOTE: wolbre] aubergine

But am also up for either marmot or MP.

I don’t wanna limit it to just them tho. I don’t wanna feel like I’ve been bamboozled by seemingly town looking players- that’s trouvle. But I currently have no reason to suspect jjj. Lol that’ll probably come in day 4 when he’s stil pumpkins water on the cistern and hasn’t been NK’d

Will check back later in the day

Why Marmot or me?

Your votes came together when the lynch was basically decided, on what I recall was flimsy cause. Any late train riders get my eye

I don’t remember all your reads on the matter because you write tomes and I haven’t done your iso yet, so you might have explained suspicion with choutis earlier but I just don’t remember

Noted, let me know if you have questions or concerns after diving into my content.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 7:42 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 7:40 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 4:27 pm Does anyone know what Lapluie looks like as mafia?

Also, what is up with Eloh? She directly accuses Wolbre, and when Wolbre calls it out she1s like "why are you putting words in my mouth"? How do players who knows Eloh read this?

Elo is notoriously difficult to read because she routinely says weird things. I think she's probably bad because she isn't really doing anything.

Does not “really doing anything” = her bad meta?

I'm not really sure, but I do think if she was town she'd at least try a little harder.

I'll try to create a POE list now.

MP Rainbow #4 - POE Version - Day 2

Do NOT Lynch:
Dyslexicon
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
lapluie
Scotty

Maybe do not lynch:
ColinIsCool
Marmot
wolbre04

Ehhhh....:
Quin
TheFloyd73

OK to Lynch:
Charlienosis
Elohcin

To elaborate on a few notable alterations to my reads:

- I've decided to take the stance that I'm tinfoiling Kyle. I really like Scotty's recent investigative work and tone of his posts in general. Dizzy, Jay, and lapluie still seem fine I think, though it'd be nice if lapluie could engage more.

- Colin, Marmot, and wolbre are tough to assess; they require some ISO looks perhaps.

- TheFloyd is... well, not here. Quin could have bussed Choutas, and his contributions are non-existent other than the argument with Jay early in the game.

- Charlienosis emphasizes he's interested in hunting, but he's not really doing it, and his half-assed statements about me and otherwise are uninspiring. Elo similarly isn't doing anything and she needs to feel some serious pressure.

[VOTE: ELOHCIN] aubergine

[mention]Elohcin[/mention], please come in and give this game an effort ASAP. Your reads, even if relatively uninformed, would be worth quite a bit right now.

i told everyone i'm confirmed town and they're still suspecting me what the hell is going on

M Plus 7: 245 posts


ain’t nobody got time for dat




Yeah, I’ll get around to when I get an hour of downtime but dammit jim. That’s 1/4 of the posts in the game.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:18 pm M Plus 7: 245 posts


ain’t nobody got time for dat




Yeah, I’ll get around to when I get an hour of downtime but dammit jim. That’s 1/4 of the posts in the game.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 6:45 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 5:17 pm Oh and I forgot Quin ... Quin is pretty inscrutable to me and I don't like that.

I second this actually. I also don't like that he was the one to be like "no but the kill was actually clever come on guyezzz" for more or less silly reasons, but like, I think Quin would be a player that would be low key bothered if other players called his play not smart. : p Does that make sense?

hate this. literally both parts are wrong. not even a misinterpretation. wrong.

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

Quin wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:21 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 6:45 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 5:17 pm Oh and I forgot Quin ... Quin is pretty inscrutable to me and I don't like that.

I second this actually. I also don't like that he was the one to be like "no but the kill was actually clever come on guyezzz" for more or less silly reasons, but like, I think Quin would be a player that would be low key bothered if other players called his play not smart. : p Does that make sense?

hate this. literally both parts are wrong. not even a misinterpretation. wrong.

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

What is the correct interpretation, and why does this make Dyslexicon bad?

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:18 pm M Plus 7: 245 posts


ain’t nobody got time for dat




Yeah, I’ll get around to when I get an hour of downtime but dammit jim. That’s 1/4 of the posts in the game.

Mine's easier, only 145 posts lol.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:54 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:49 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:46 pm Nice kill choice Jay.

You'd make that goofy-ass kill, Marmot.

No way, I'd take this golden opportunity and kill Charlie Blackmon.

I 100% buy this.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:26 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:21 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 6:45 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 5:17 pm Oh and I forgot Quin ... Quin is pretty inscrutable to me and I don't like that.

I second this actually. I also don't like that he was the one to be like "no but the kill was actually clever come on guyezzz" for more or less silly reasons, but like, I think Quin would be a player that would be low key bothered if other players called his play not smart. : p Does that make sense?

hate this. literally both parts are wrong. not even a misinterpretation. wrong.

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

What is the correct interpretation, and why does this make Dyslexicon bad?

He wifomised my night kill analysis. "Because nova made no explicit reads, I think the nova kill was a smart kill which doesn't reflect badly on anybody" got turned into "no but the kill was actually clever come on guyezzz". Fuck that.

"More or less silly reasons" is just the icing on the cake.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 7:57 pm- I've decided to take the stance that I'm tinfoiling Kyle.

can I ask what changed your mind? I literally haven't done anything since you started suspecting me except for playing Game Freak's Nintendo DS video game Pokemon Soul Silver on my Nintendo 3ds portable video gaming system.

lapluie wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 6:56 pm @ColinIsCool why am I red

I didn't like your responses yesterday and it felt like you were hiding stuff by not answering them directly. You're intentionally being coy, which does not seem like what I remember from other games. Other than that, you haven't offered much of anything in the way of reads, which makes me think you might be reluctant to point your finger at anybody, possibly a teammate (or not point at them as the case may be). You're also there by POE because I don't really know how Elohcin plays and I think everybody else has earned enough town credit to not be there.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:29 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 7:57 pm- I've decided to take the stance that I'm tinfoiling Kyle.

can I ask what changed your mind? I literally haven't done anything since you started suspecting me except for playing Game Freak's Nintendo DS video game Pokemon Soul Silver on my Nintendo 3ds portable video gaming system.

Just mulling over it while being away from the game, and looking at it again. Especially in light of your other behavior which seems completely genuine to me, I was willing to reassess.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:29 pm

lapluie wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 6:56 pm @ColinIsCool why am I red

I didn't like your responses yesterday and it felt like you were hiding stuff by not answering them directly. You're intentionally being coy, which does not seem like what I remember from other games. Other than that, you haven't offered much of anything in the way of reads, which makes me think you might be reluctant to point your finger at anybody, possibly a teammate (or not point at them as the case may be). You're also there by POE because I don't really know how Elohcin plays and I think everybody else has earned enough town credit to not be there.

Explain?

i dislike it from the "no but" moment. deciding the only reason for that post was to deny the common assumption.

Referring back to my rainbow list:

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 5:10 pm The Best Ever Death Metal Band Out of Denton:
ColinIsCool

Pale Green Things:
JaggedJimmyJay
Dizzy (+ town)
Kylemii
Charlie Blackmon
Scotty (+ town)

Maybe Sprout Wings:
TheFloyd

Against Pollution:
Marmot (- town)
MP (- town)
Elohcin
Quin (- town)

Damn These Vampires:
wolbre (- town)
lapluie

(+ town) indicates they've gone up in my eyes recently
(- town) indicates they've given me cause to downgrade them
I tried to avoid giving neutral reads on everybody who has posted so a lot of these are not based on any master theories, just where I'm at.

If I could rank the bottom three it would probably be wolbre, lap and Eloh. People have pointed out weird things she's done and they all have a lot more experience with her than me, so I'm inclined to trust them, but I realize that I could be getting taken for a ride. So I'm giving her a small benefit of the doubt for now.

Colin, also, why is Charlie in your town reads? I think I missed that, sorry.

Quin, do you have any reads in this game which aren't glued to your own posts in some way?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:35 pm Quin, do you have any reads in this game which aren't glued to your own posts in some way?

yea

something wrong if there isn't?

I miss Epignosis already. This song reminded me of him.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:37 pm yea

Please share.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:37 pmsomething wrong if there isn't?

Yes.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:34 pm Colin, also, why is Charlie in your town reads? I think I missed that, sorry.

No big — he reminds me of every town Charlie I've seen, which is admittedly limited because he dies quickly, but still. I've never actually seen his scum performance, mind you, so it is a slight townread, but I didn't want any neutrals in that post besides Floyd.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:39 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:37 pm yea

Please share.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:37 pmsomething wrong if there isn't?

Yes.

lapluie is good and marmot is bad.

no there isn't. fight me.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:42 pm lapluie is good and marmot is bad.

Why?

I might be busy tomorrow so I'm going to put my money where my mouth is.

[VOTE: WOLBRE] aubergine

Theres nothing to hide in day 1 other than me voting for an inactive.
Im not pointing fingers because I have no teammates, if you've seen me as a mafia in another game with quin & nutella who were also mafia youd know I definitely tried to buss out my teammate.
but thanks for sharing your opinions

@quin you say marmot is bad but have a vote on eloh?

lapluie wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 9:14 pm @quin you say marmot is bad but have a vote on eloh?

Dyslex***

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 7:23 pmLol, thanks!

I just finished playing Ancient Greece and Assassination Classroom, which both ended a week ago. I played with some fervor in Ancient Greece, and played pretty sparingly in Ass Class. I was town in both games, and mafia won both games. But if you want an example of me as active town, that Ancient Greece game is one that just happened. I've also already explained why my activity is up in this game. I'm not even using it as a reason to civ-read me, just explaining my activity.

If you find my content itself suspicious or don't believe my reasons, fine. But I want to ease the paranoia so you'll at least look at what I'm saying instead of letting that uneasy feeling sit around and dictate your read of me.

And I'm talking to the thread as a whole here, not just you.

Yeah, I get it. It's not a valid point against you. And the level headed "don't worry, my child" is also scary, but NAI.

catching up is for nerds and squares

tell me who to iso